Tens Of Thousands Of Iraqis Protest US-Iraq Security Deal

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ROBERT H. REID | May 30, 2008 04:15 PM EST | AP

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Iraqi demonstrators shout slogans during a protest in the Kazimiyah northern district of Baghdad, on Friday, May 30, 2008. Tens of thousands of Shiites took to the streets in Baghdad and other cities to protest plans for a long term security agreement with the United States. The banner in the background reads: "No to the security agreement between the occupation and the Iraqi government". (AP Photo/Hadi Mizban)

BAGHDAD — Tens of thousands rallied in several cities Friday against a proposed U.S.-Iraqi security agreement, raising doubts that negotiators can meet a July target to finalize a pact to keep U.S. troops in Iraq after the current U.N. mandate expires.

Although U.S. officials insist they are not seeking permanent bases, suspicion runs deep among many Iraqis that the Americans want to keep at least some troops in the country for many years.

"We denounce the government's intentions to sign a long-term agreement with the occupying forces," Asaad al-Nassiri, a sheik loyal to anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, said during a sermon in Kufa. "Our army will be under their control in this agreement, and this will lead to them having permanent bases in Iraq."

President Bush and Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki signed a statement last December on the future of U.S.-Iraqi relations, saying they planned to finalize a new security agreement by July 31 _ in time for Iraq's parliament to approve the deal before a U.N. mandate expires at the end of the year.

U.S. and Iraqi officials began negotiations in March on a blueprint for the long-term security agreement and a second deal, to establish the legal basis for U.S. troops to remain in the country after the U.N. mandate runs out.

Rallies in Baghdad and several other Iraqi cities followed Friday prayer services and were the first in wake of a call by al-Sadr for weekly protests against the deal, even though few details of the talks have been released.

Most of the protesters appeared to be followers of al-Sadr, the hardline Shiite cleric and militia leader whose Mahdi Army battled American and Iraqi troops in Baghdad's Sadr City district until a truce this month ended nearly seven weeks of fighting.

But opposition to the agreement appears to be growing beyond the Sadrist movement.

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A militant Sunni clerical group, the Association of Muslim Scholars, denounced the "ring of secrecy" surrounding the talks and said the proposed deal would pave the way for "military, economic and cultural domination" by the Americans.

On Thursday, the head of the country's biggest mainstream Shiite party, Abdul-Aziz al-Hakim, said some unspecified points under negotiation "violate Iraq's national sovereignty," adding that a "national consensus" was emerging against the proposed agreement.

Al-Hakim is al-Sadr's main rival in the majority Shiite community and maintains close ties to the country's main Shiite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani. Aides to the powerful ayatollah say he also has reservations about the deal.

Some congressional Democrats are also insisting that Congress should authorize any agreement that would obligate the United States to defend Iraq.

Before the Friday protests, al-Sadr's office in Baghdad issued a statement branding the negotiations as "a project of humiliation" aimed at turning Iraq "into a small stooge of the United States."

U.S. officials have declined to comment on the talks until the draft is completed.

Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said two weeks ago that "we are making progress" although other Iraqi officials acknowledged there were many unresolved issues, including how many Americans would remain and what they would do. American soldiers now enjoy full immunity from the Iraqi legal system.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not supposed to talk about the negotiations.

Rallies against the security deal occurred as the U.S. military was seeking to contain the public relations damage caused by reports that an American Marine handed out coins promoting Christianity to Sunni Muslims in the former insurgent stronghold of Fallujah.

Sunni officials and residents said a Marine distributed about 10 coins at a checkpoint controlling access to the city, the scene of one of the fiercest battles of the war.

One side asked: "Where will you spend eternity?"

The other contained a verse from the New Testament: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16."

Mohammed Hassan Abdullah said he witnessed the coins being handed out on Tuesday as he was waiting at the Halabsa checkpoint, although he didn't receive one himself.

The U.S. military responded quickly to the incident, first reported by McClatchy Newspapers, removing a Marine from duty pending an investigation. Military regulations forbid proselytizing any religion.

"Indications are this was an isolated incident _ an individual Marine acting on his own accord passing out coins," Lt. Col. Chris Hughes, a spokesman for U.S. forces in western Iraq, said in an e-mailed statement.

Distribution of the coins was the second perceived insult to Islam by American service members this month. A U.S. Army sniper was sent out of the country after using a Quran, Islam's holy book, for target practice in a predominantly Sunni area west of Baghdad.

"This event did not happen by chance, but it was planned and done intentionally," Sheik Abdul-Rahman al-Zubaie, an influential tribal leader in Fallujah, said of the coins. "The Sunni population cannot accept and endure such a thing. I might not be able to control people's reactions if such incidents keep happening."

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Associated Press writer Sameer N. Yacoub and AP staff in Fallujah contributed to this report.

BAGHDAD — Tens of thousands rallied in several cities Friday against a proposed U.S.-Iraqi security agreement, raising doubts that negotiators can meet a July target to finalize a pact to keep U...
BAGHDAD — Tens of thousands rallied in several cities Friday against a proposed U.S.-Iraqi security agreement, raising doubts that negotiators can meet a July target to finalize a pact to keep U...
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Did they throw flowers?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 AM on 05/31/2008

The iraqis are not going to make a deal with US right now. They do not trust this administration, they said why make a deal when this administration is only going to be in power for next 5 months. They said this administration has no transparency. They said this admins. is too secretive. Ready for Obama 08!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 05/31/2008
- timothe I'm a Fan of timothe 7 fans permalink

How can Al-Maliki have favorable relations with the "next" administration when Obama refuses to go to Iraq and meet with him?

My guess is that the Iraqi government is squarely in the corner of John McCain currently.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 AM on 05/31/2008

What use is a photo-op between Obama and Maliki? It accomplishes nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 AM on 05/31/2008
- DMHendrix I'm a Fan of DMHendrix 94 fans permalink
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But, but, but I thought McCain looked me in the eye and told me that all was quiet and things were just peachy in Iraq. He even said "my friends"..­.you mean he was wrong? Oh say it isn't so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 AM on 05/31/2008
- timothe I'm a Fan of timothe 7 fans permalink

No...he wasn't. These are peaceful demonstrations. We have peaceful demonstrations all of the time. That's what democracies do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 AM on 05/31/2008
- scooperss I'm a Fan of scooperss 71 fans permalink
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Did you read the news this week about lil scotty's book where it said the news media is complicit when it comes to Iraq? Do you think they've magically started telling the truth? Hell, gregory and brokaw are spinning like crazy trying to blame someone else......­......name­ly people like you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 05/31/2008
- peterg76 I'm a Fan of peterg76 32 fans permalink
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Democracy on the march!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 AM on 05/31/2008
- GeoLee I'm a Fan of GeoLee 64 fans permalink

Well, this is one of the reasons we went into Iraq wasn't it...to democratize it. As my mother use to say, "be careful what you ask for."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 AM on 05/31/2008
- timothe I'm a Fan of timothe 7 fans permalink

No...this IS a good thing. Let the Iraqi people protest peacefully. A new democracy needs protests. (remember the Boston Tea Party?) If the Iraqi people actually believe they have a voice in the future of their country, they will step up and create the democracy they desire.

That's what the surge was intended to do. That's what the surge has done. Now, it's up to them.

Fair-minded people understand that we can't simply pack up all of our bags and leave. But we should definitely abide by the decisions of the Iraqi government. If they don't want us to have a base there, then we shouldn't have a base there. If they DO want us to have a base there, then we should build one.

They are our friends and allies now. They should get all of the respect that our other allies receive from us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 AM on 05/31/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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" I might not be able to control people's reactions if such incidents keep happening.­"

yeah, pretty much the same powder keg deal over here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 AM on 05/31/2008
- timothe I'm a Fan of timothe 7 fans permalink

Nope...not a powder keg there anymore. Just peaceful demonstrations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 AM on 05/31/2008

"...al-Sad­r's office in Baghdad issued a statement branding the negotiations as "a project of humiliation" aimed at turning Iraq "into a small stooge of the United States."

A SMALL STOOGE OF THE UNITED STATES is exactly what Bush/McCain dream of for Iraq. Permanent bases, behind the scenes control of the government, and plenty of juicy contracts going to Cheney's friends.

The Iraqi people don't want us there. That is obvious, even before this latest protest. It's time to leave!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 AM on 05/31/2008

WHO, WHEN AND WHY WANTED US IN IRAQ ANYWAY?
DID DUBYA TELL YOU THEY NEEDED US DESPERATELY IN IRAQ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 05/31/2008
- thirteen13 I'm a Fan of thirteen13 3 fans permalink

How many Americans would tolerate an occupation by foreign troops? Ask Great Britan about occupying foreign countries.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 05/31/2008
- researcher I'm a Fan of researcher 112 fans permalink

give it time and they all be christians and go to heaven.

thank god for that marine passing out coins of hope

now give us our oil and quit protesting

we dont protest in america no matter how bad our gov screws us why should you

you belong to us now we won you lost the war (we super power, you little people)

god i love puppet governments

say jump and they say how high

god bless america

signed
just your average southern evangel neo con

yes my parents were first cousins so what

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 AM on 05/31/2008
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I guess you heard about the southern evangelists who were afraid to get divorced. It wasn't so much that their pastor didn't approve as that they were afraid if they went through a divorce, they wouldn't be brother and sister anymore.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 AM on 05/31/2008

I believe if Obama goes to Iraqi and he is introduced as Hussein he can quench the tribal war and fight against Americans in Iraqi.

That is why I will vote Obama. Vote one and get two - Barack to the Christian, Hussein for the Muslim - Obama 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 AM on 05/31/2008

You moronic a-hole!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 05/31/2008
- the964kid I'm a Fan of the964kid 63 fans permalink
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The video from these protests must be CGI special FX, because John McCain told us Iraq is going great and we're winning and everything is on track for 'victory.'

We gotta get outta Iraq yesterday, no permanent bases and we gotta close guantanamo down once and for all. Obama is the only candidate who will do that - we're gonna have a clear choice this november.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 AM on 05/31/2008

This is bitterly ironic. U.S. co-optation of Saudi autonomy by housing bases there prompts 9/11. The U.S. responds by proposing to add more permanent bases to a Mideast country where the populus doesn't want them (we don't have to read the proposal to know key elements of what's in it).

Whether or not U.S. "hegemony" is good for the world (Germany, Japan, Korea, etc.), if it's rammed down people's throats -- especially people who really don't want it -- bad will somehow come of it. It's like we learn nothing.

When will Congress and the President address America's imperial overstretch? We can't afford it, but we're addicted, and too scared to stop. "Without us, the world will fall apart!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 AM on 05/31/2008
- thirteen13 I'm a Fan of thirteen13 3 fans permalink

With us the world will be destroyed!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 AM on 05/31/2008

The Iraqi people on the street there know a hell of a lot more about what the U.S. is trying to do in Iraq than the average moronic America beer-swilling sloth!!! Joe dumbsh*t here just has NO CLUE!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 05/31/2008
- Grannysue I'm a Fan of Grannysue 131 fans permalink
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But, But, McSame said it's going hunky dory over there, and we have less troops then before the surge! Oh, yea I forgot he's senile!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 AM on 05/31/2008
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So Obama goes to Iraq, meets with Petraeus and asks two questions:
1) What exactly was your expectation when we went in, compared to mine--and did you tell anyone about it at all?
2) How exactly do you plan to convince these people that you don't intend to stay in their country indefinitely when your Commander in Chief's best new buddy says we'll be there as long as we've been in Korea?

Meanwhile, it's time to gas up the helicopters, boys, 'cause the jig is about to be up. This could have been tens of thousands of angry Iraqi's carrying AK47's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 AM on 05/31/2008
- timothe I'm a Fan of timothe 7 fans permalink

I think we're going to be drawing down victorious. Hell, even Nancy Pelosi came back from Iraq with good news. Even SHE couldn't deny the changes on the ground there.

Now we can bring our heroes home....re­sponsibly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 AM on 05/31/2008

What the surge has accomplished is that it has reduced the level of violence enough so that it has become politically possible for Bush to keep the war going until the end of his term and hand the mess off to his successor.

But even though the violence has been significantly reduced, it continues. The situation is still a stalemate and therefore a quagmire. The insurgents have not been defeated and the only way that we can keep it from returning to the previous level of violence is to keep large numbers of troops there indefinetly. When we leave, whether it is sooner or later, the violence will return from its reduced level to its former level. Therefore we should cut our losses and get out now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 AM on 05/31/2008
- Ariesjill I'm a Fan of Ariesjill 19 fans permalink

i mean, could this be any more crystal clear, patent and UNAMBIGUOUS THAN IT IS? Is there enough spin oN the planet to genetically alter any of this???????? Even within Cirque de Soleil???

At the other end of the pole, re Scott Mcclellan this AM on C-SPAN, during the call-in segment, two miliary guys, both with redneck accents and ratta-tat delivery so cliche it was embarrassi­ng....call­led in to wage virulent, blindly imperious TORTUROUS against Scott with such as 'TRAITOR" absolute loyatyl to yr Commander. in Chief...hu­rling "liberal" as it ir were an ICBM with nuke warhead...­.I realized I have been in denail about the 27% comprising actual INDIVIDUAL­S......cau­se it was THAT scary to FINALLY see full inthe face.....A­ND WITH AUDIO.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 05/30/2008
- timothe I'm a Fan of timothe 7 fans permalink

And while I'm here, I'll report some other news out of Iraq.

icasualties.org reports May to be the lowest casualty total in Iraq since the start of the occupation.
www.icasualties.org

The CIA has reported today that Al-Queda is significantly weakened..­.not just in Iraq, but all over the world.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/29/AR2008052904116_pf.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 05/30/2008
- amanda85 I'm a Fan of amanda85 108 fans permalink

So, why don't you declare victory and then leave?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 05/30/2008
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I report, that al-Qaeda was not only significantly weaker, but absolutely feeble before Bush attacked.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 05/31/2008
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