Most Rebate Checks Going For Bills And Gas, Not Spending

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First Posted: 05-31-08 09:27 PM   |   Updated: 06- 8-08 05:12 AM

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New York Times:

The federal government is showering households with tax rebates to spur spending and invigorate a troubled economy. But many Americans are so consumed with debt and the soaring price of gasoline that they are opting to save the money or use it to pay bills, according to surveys, sales data and interviews with people from Florida to California.

Between late April and the end of last week, the Treasury handed out more than $50 billion of the $100 billion in tax rebates it plans to distribute to 132 million households. But only once in the last six weeks have chain stores registered an increase in sales, according to the International Council of Shopping Centers, whose weekly sales survey is a widely watched barometer.

"The initial sense is that people are not running out to the malls to spend their checks," said Stuart G. Hoffman, chief economist at the PNC Financial Services Group in Pittsburgh. "It's not quite proving to be a hot potato that's burning a hole in people's pockets."

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The federal government is showering households with tax rebates to spur spending and invigorate a troubled economy. But many Americans are so consumed with debt and the soaring price of gasoline that ...
The federal government is showering households with tax rebates to spur spending and invigorate a troubled economy. But many Americans are so consumed with debt and the soaring price of gasoline that ...
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- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 281 fans permalink
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My Neighbors took theirs and bought windmills to produce their own electric to heat their homes.

With the Dark Pools controling the Natural Gas Furtures Contracts and doubling or tripling the price each time they sell through the new Swiss Banking Crossfinder computer program. It seeks countracts in these Dark Pool thru Company A then A seeks the contract from B then B seeks from C even if B has contracts to sell. C will the tranfer a contracts which B will mark up in price then transger to A who will mark up the price then semd to the Crossfinder who marks up the price again before selling it to the Natural Gas Companys.
See for yourself.
http://www.rsi-ireland.com/documents/DarkPoolsVol2.pdf

Here is the law that allows them to do it:
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/07/17/how_traders_gamble_with_your_energy_dollars/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 AM on 06/03/2008
- gonavy I'm a Fan of gonavy 7 fans permalink

We set the entire check aside to pay for preschool next fall. We do not need the money now, we have learned to live within our budget. But, we had no idea how we were going to afford preschool, so, thank you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 06/02/2008
- gakabani I'm a Fan of gakabani 20 fans permalink
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Exactly, how are we going to afford living, that simple. Forget about school! what about safe water and safe roads! We have been duped by a criminal president. By the way were is Osama? You see it has been all a farce to destroy our economy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 06/03/2008

Many people are ignorants and don't study this government. The chimp took that money from the Social security trust fund and gave it to the people so they can pay credit card debt and energy which are his two more important bases. Taking the money from social secury ensure that program to die faster. Everything is calculate by the chimp and the rest of the gang, the two parties are two sides of the same coin.

I hate the fact that this blog block my messages when I speak truth to power. This blog is in bed with this government and doesn't want people to awake.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 06/02/2008
- Gary47 I'm a Fan of Gary47 15 fans permalink

The rebate is nothing more than another mechanism to give taxpayer money to oil companies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 06/02/2008

Surprise, surprise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 06/02/2008
- Harrier I'm a Fan of Harrier 12 fans permalink

If your expenses go up, b definition, you are forced to spend money on it. As oil companies more understand more and more people want to invest in technology to eliminate gas, oil companies are rise prices to make everything as difficult as possible

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 06/02/2008
- VivaZapata I'm a Fan of VivaZapata 63 fans permalink
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The economy cannot rebound by gimmicky tactics like the stimulus package. This bogus proposal will allow Bush to get out of town before the total collapse. Then people will say, "things were bad under Bush, but not this bad," and they'll believe that because they won't see the continuity. People on fixed income who are the solid base of spending in this country have nothing left with which to purchase. More and more people will be forced to sell their houses for less and less. Communities will have less of a tax base which will affect services and cause increases in crime and lawlessness. The so-called free market economy (code word for corporate exploitation) is showing its ugly side. FDR had no walk-in-the-park in trying to pull the country out of the Great Depression, but the problems are much more complicated in this New World Order, so called global market economy. The only financial stocks relatively impervious to the oncoming mess are VISA and MASTERCARD, which shot up towards the end of last week. Gold is very volatile, but it's climb is inevitable. At some point it will skyrocket.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 AM on 06/02/2008
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 134 fans permalink
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Im sorry, but if you spending on bills and gas or spending on big screen TVs and condoms, its still spending. Its just not the kind of spending the powers that be told us it would be used for. Then again, when was the last time you can remember them getting anything correct. They are worse the meteorologist when it comes to predictions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 AM on 06/02/2008

Hmm where did they get that money? they printed it out of thin air...you are spending money that will add to the cost of everything you buy...LOL. Pay the debts folks...force the government to pay your debts before it too late.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 PM on 06/01/2008
- gakabani I'm a Fan of gakabani 20 fans permalink
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We are a pathetic nation. We let our president buy our souls, and for that matter our country, with a rebate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 06/01/2008
- willo I'm a Fan of willo 5 fans permalink

You want to hear a real joke. The price of energy and food are not figured into the governments statisticts on inflation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 06/01/2008
- biwee I'm a Fan of biwee 13 fans permalink

Well, energy and food ARE figured into the CPI from BLS. It is the so-called "core" rate of inflation
that does not include energy and food. Of course, this "core" rate of inflation is of no interest to normal people. The reason we are hearing such low inflation numbers in the spring of 2008 is that BLS fudges the inflation rate to be much lower than it actually is. Using "seasonal" adjustments, and other garbage, the inflation rate from BLS is a scam to lower Social Security COLAs on 1 Jan. The true inflation rate in America is in the 7-8 percent range.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 06/03/2008
- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 281 fans permalink
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DID YOU ALL GET YOUR $600.00 WELFARE CHECK YET???

MUST BE WELFARE WE DID NOT EARN IT!

NAME THE WORK YOU DID TO EARN THIS MONEY?

IF YOU CAN'T IT IS WELFARE!

OR ARE WE CHAIRTY CASES?????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 06/01/2008
- forpeace I'm a Fan of forpeace 343 fans permalink
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dadw5boys
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Those checks are paid by Tax Payers to Tax Payers!

Bush is just trying to save his Failure Administration till election time, so McBush can get elected, then it's going to be business as usual.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 06/01/2008
- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 281 fans permalink
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300,000,000 Americans X $600.00 each = $180,000,000,000.00

Why not put pay that back to Social Security WHERE BUSH BORROWED IT FROM????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 06/01/2008

I actually didn't do any work for the money in 2007. It came from exercising the last of my deferred employee stock options from my prior job. But I did pay taxes on what the IRS classifies as "wages" and under the Democrats' rules, I was entitled to the rebate. Whether the government could afford to be so generous is another issue. Your boys will be paying off the government's debt long after you and I have passed on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 PM on 06/01/2008
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 134 fans permalink
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Now worse than the hundreds of Billions of our tax money given to corporations who makes stupid investments and business decisions. So why not let the people who dont have millions in the bank have a little charity as well? What is wrong with that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 AM on 06/02/2008
- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 281 fans permalink
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Just like the Republicans complain about the Welfare problems which are mostly created by the Republican Owned Businessmen who refuse to hire qualified Black and Hispanic people.
They create the problem by breaking the laws then complain about the problem. Do you really think the black men like hustling to feed their familys? Risking thier lives when they could have a descent job with benifits and home with the family everyday.

If the Republicans Business owners would follow the law and the Republican Judges would enforceit then the U.S. would not be haveing a lot of the problems we have.

Just look at Bush. How many laws has he broken. Even the Constitution is only a peices of paper to him. They fly their colors and lie, can't people see thier colors?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 AM on 06/03/2008

I gave mine to today's charity telethon

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 06/01/2008
- Pepper14 I'm a Fan of Pepper14 2 fans permalink

A majority of people haven't even gotten their rebate. I only know of one person that got his and that was because his was direct deposit. This headline is misleading because paper checks will be issued the whole month of June and first part of July.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 06/01/2008

I think you are right. Next time, use direct deposit. It actually works.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 06/01/2008
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 134 fans permalink
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Almost everyone I know has theirs already. And yes, it went to bills, gas and food.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 AM on 06/02/2008
- tcagle I'm a Fan of tcagle 8 fans permalink
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A lifelong friend of mine had a heart attack and bypass surgery four years ago, was not insured through his job, and lost his home. He is using this check to relocate the mobile home he now lives in to another site because a corporation bought out the park where he lives to build a resort.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 06/01/2008
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