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TOM RAUM | June 1, 2008 02:18 PM EST | AP

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Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama D-Ill., speaks during a town hall meeting at the Aberdeen Civic Arena in Aberdeen, S.D. Saturday, May 31, 2008. (AP Photo/Chris Carlson)

SIOUX FALLS, S.D. — It's Barack Obama's party now. He beat the ultimate insider at the insider's game. And he's already turned his full-bore attention to the general election contest against Republican John McCain.

During a weekend in which Hillary Rodham Clinton mounted a likely last hurrah in Puerto Rico and national Democrats resolved the sticky issue of seating Florida and Michigan delegates under a formula favorable to Obama, the Illinois senator took a series of bold steps to signal his focus was riveted on the fall campaign:

_ He severed all remaining ties with his Chicago church and politically meddlesome pastors who have preached from its pulpit.

_ His campaign announced he would go to the lion's den, the site of this summer's GOP convention in St. Paul, Minn., for a rally this Tuesday marking the end of the primary season.

_ He stepped up his criticism of McCain, pummeling him on Iraq, Iran and veterans matters.

Former Democratic Sen. Tom Daschle, Obama's top supporter here in South Dakota and leader of the effort to round up superdelegates, on Sunday predicted the floodgates would open this week as remaining superdelegates jump on the Obama bandwagon.

"I think we're going to have a nominee before the end of this week," Daschle said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

The primary season ends Tuesday, with contests here and in Montana. Obama was spending Sunday, and all of Saturday, campaigning here.

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Obama's complete break with Trinity United Church of Christ will provide a degree of cover for superdelegates poised to endorse him but possibly still uncomfortable about some of his entanglements.

And the same things that make it easier for Obama to cement his victory among superdelegates will help him coax independents to swing his way in the fall.

Obama hasn't yet declared that his nomination is inevitable. But he's on the very edge.

"We are getting very close to the number, the new number, now that Michigan and Florida have been added," he told reporters traveling with him.

"We are getting close to the number that will give us the nomination. And if we've hit that number on Tuesday night we will announce that _ and I think even if we don't, this is the end of the primary season," he said. Thus the in-your face decision to hold Tuesday night's primary season wrap-up rally at the Xcel Energy Center, site of the GOP convention beginning Sept. 1.

"I think it's very important for us to pivot and focus on the clear contrast that will exist between Democrats and Republicans in this election," Obama said.

Contributing to the dynamic as Obama heads toward the general election is that he has been painted so poorly by the Clinton campaign _ from first portraying him as another manifestation of civil rights leader Jesse Jackson to suggesting her rival could be in the same line as other Democratic nominees who lost badly, including George McGovern, the 1972 candidate defeated by President Nixon in a landslide.

Clinton once worked for McGovern's candidacy. McGovern, also of South Dakota, earlier supported Clinton but switched his allegiance to Obama in May and urged her to drop out of the race. He described Obama's lead as "insurmountable" and argued "Democrats need to be gathering in a united way behind him."

Despite continued defiant assertions by Clinton that she would be a better candidate against McCain, particularly in industrial swing states, even some of her most ardent supporters are now subdued, perhaps resigned to the inevitability of an Obama candidacy.

"He would make a good president, and we're not saying he can't get elected," top Clinton strategist Harold Ickes said Sunday.

Clearly, there are some big general election challenges ahead for Obama.

"Obama has to deal with the issue of white working-class reservations about him, highly social conservative attitudes," said Andrew Kohut, president of the independent Pew Research Center.

In many ways, Obama's resignation from the church and repudiation of ministers who made inflammatory racial comments from its pulpit should help with this group.

But more important, said Kohut, Obama needs to strongly reach out to independents. "Right now, they're breaking for Obama. All elections are about how independent voters break."

Plus, Obama is the first one to acknowledge that things happen, and that in a YouTube world, anything can rear up instantly and come close to destroying your political career _ like the sermons of two preachers who are among his longtime acquaintances and supporters.

Remarks by his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, inflamed racial tensions. These were reinforced by recent comments from the same pulpit by a visiting pastor, the Rev. Michael Pfleger, that raised racial issues and mocked Clinton. Clips of both were circulated extensively on YouTube and shown on television.

"I have to say this was one I didn't see coming. We knew there were going to be some things we didn't see coming. This was one," Obama said. "I didn't anticipate my fairly conventional Christian faith being subject to such challenge and such scrutiny. Initially with e-mails suggesting I was a Muslim, later with the controversy that Trinity generated."

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EDITOR'S NOTE _ Tom Raum has covered Washington for The Associated Press since 1973, including five presidencies.

SIOUX FALLS, S.D. — It's Barack Obama's party now. He beat the ultimate insider at the insider's game. And he's already turned his full-bore attention to the general election contest against Rep...
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- maxdenn I'm a Fan of maxdenn 162 fans permalink

I relish, con gusto, ignoring ignorance and neocon Republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 06/01/2008
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Con mucho gusto, muchacho!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 06/01/2008

One voice can change a Nation!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6-NEJPN0BE

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 06/01/2008
- SMP I'm a Fan of SMP 17 fans permalink
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I saw that on TV 2day.................FANTASTIC...................and oh so true.....Barack WILL positively change us for the better

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 06/01/2008
- magicmary I'm a Fan of magicmary 25 fans permalink
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Thank you Portland! I miss you honey!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 06/01/2008
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this is quite moving thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 06/01/2008
- maxdenn I'm a Fan of maxdenn 162 fans permalink

I am really looking forward to the coming debates between Senator Obama and Mr. McCain. The Senator will crush McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 06/01/2008
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Yeah right like he could not crush HillaryClinton in a debate he sits there looking flustered...oh right if it is not on a card it is lost to him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 06/01/2008
- NeoStar9 I'm a Fan of NeoStar9 15 fans permalink

You ignore the fact that Obama was treating Hillary as if she were another democart. That's also what others were doing in the debates. Obama will not treat McCain the same way. How he conducts himself against one of his own doesn't mean he'll be the same away against the other party. That should be very clear by now when you compare to how he's gone after McCain so far compared how he went after Clinton.

That is something th media loved to ignore no matter how many times guest on shows tried to point it out. You don't treat a member of the family the same way you'd treat the rival group. That' something Clinton ignored when she went after Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 06/01/2008
- Wingit I'm a Fan of Wingit 8 fans permalink

If Obama can get an appointment to do the debate. McCain takes all weekends off and generally campaigns about three days a week. Many days are listed as "press availability" for a one hour time period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 06/01/2008
- BabsfromKS I'm a Fan of BabsfromKS 14 fans permalink
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he needs his beauty sleep

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 06/01/2008
- bbbear I'm a Fan of bbbear 22 fans permalink
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McCain does seem to have charmed many in the press, even including one of my favorite comedians, Jon Stewart, who truly seems to admire him. Maybe that's because our nation has long been devolving into this grotesque rogue military cult/thingy of today. As such many seem to fawn over so-called hero's, even those who bombed women and children in illegal wars such as in Vietnam. In fact, even though Jon is usually good for a laugh, his yessir, nosir, response to most ex high ranking military types is downright disqusting.

As an old militry type ( 24 yrs USAF ) who flew with the 19th Air Commando's in the awful Vietnam war I personally knew some who were awarded multiple metals. Each one cringed at being called a hero and to a man, refused to speak of it. Further, they certainly would have never considered hiding behind such a notion, let alone making a career of it. But, I guess, John McCain fugures, why give up a good thing. Pretending to be a mavarick straight shooting Vietnam hero seemed to alow him to hide his Keating 5 involvement, as well as his contining strong connections to Big Money Lobby.
Hell, as Dubya might say, why not catapult the propaganda into POTUS McSame?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 PM on 06/01/2008
- puffhost I'm a Fan of puffhost 11 fans permalink

No freaking doubt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 06/01/2008
- palealien I'm a Fan of palealien 2 fans permalink

Same here. Fish in a barrel?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 06/01/2008
- ssg13565 I'm a Fan of ssg13565 27 fans permalink

> The Senator will crush McCain.

I'd like to believe that. Past performance points that way.

However, remember Gore vs. Bush?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 06/01/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 642 fans permalink
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I have some of those same thoughts.

You can hear the hate and disdain many Americans have for Intellectualism

it is the strangest thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 06/01/2008
- paganmist I'm a Fan of paganmist 67 fans permalink

Funny, it was the Clintons who turned off so many Democrats that they voted for Bush instead of their own candidate.

And now, here we go again. Clintons, turning off so many Democrats that they're planning on voting for McCain.

With everything that the Democratic Party has done for them, why can't they behave selflessly for once in their lives and give up their ambitions? At this point, it's quite obviously hurting the party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 06/01/2008
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Do you know something I don't know are Gore and Bush running again?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 06/01/2008

The nation indeed remembers Bush vs. Gore. And all that happened over the next eight years. That is why Senator Obama will win an overwhelming victory in November. Change is indeed coming.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 06/01/2008

I think I've found the source of most of the Republican trolls.

http://www.johnmccain.com/ActionCenter/BlogInteract/BlogInteract.aspx

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 06/01/2008
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Sorry but my PC is only protected by some common systems.

I can't just open anything, especially with those trollish names.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 06/01/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 642 fans permalink
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saw that!
bizarro, huh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 06/01/2008

That's hilarious... they are awarded points.

So what are all of the trolls going to spend their points on?

I checked out the McCain online store and as far as I can see they don't accept "points" for merchandise, not even the "McCain w/ Eagle & Mt. Rushmore Photo Button".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 06/01/2008

Obama deserves the nomination and is the stronger candidate. But the Clinton challenge proved that race matters a lot, and I expect a dirty, campaign that appeals to the inner racism of many if not most Americans: http://scotterb.wordpress.com/2008/06/01/obama-and-racism/
On popular vote: One can't compare popular votes in a hybrid caucus and primary system. One would have to adjust the caucus results to be the equivalent of votes at average turnout -- at which point Obama would have a huge lead. People here in Maine, both Hillary and Obama voters, spent hours in caucuses not ready to handle such crowds. It really irks me to hear the Clinton people disparage caucus states as if it doesn't mean anything to show commitment. - http://scotterb.wordpress.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 06/01/2008
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Look if this country gets fooled by swift boat attacks. It's not worth staying in a country with such stupid people. This election is a sanity test for Americans more than anything else.

Fool me once shame on you.

Fool me twice shame on me.

Fool me thrice time to move to another country because there is no intelligent life in the US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 06/01/2008

Great post! It makes us, here in Iowa, furious every time we hear it also. It is such a load of b.s. I can't believe people fall for it. I think some people believe what is convenient.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 06/01/2008

Obama won the caucus votes here in fairly white, but apparently not racist, Washington state.

Apparently the signs about counting every vote that Hillary supporters like Harriet were carrying yesterday didn't apply to my vote. Hillary would love to forget about my caucus state.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 06/01/2008

Every vote counts, only if that vote is for Hillary! My caucus vote is just as important as a primary vote. And we held our caucus during the DNC approved times.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 06/01/2008
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Same here in Washington state. Our choice was decided by caucus, but we also had a regular vote that wasn't used for his win here. Like Oregon, we do mostely absentee ballot voting and it felt empty mailing in those uncounted votes. CNN plans a lot of Documentaries on "Black America" this summer, when they ought to be also showing docs of Obama's life story to help the racially challenged understand that he has knowlege of, experience with and love and hope for BOTH races his genetics represent. If people would read his book, "Dreams From My Father" they would see how it is possible for him to be leader to us all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 06/01/2008
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The reason the pledge delegates matter and the "popular vote" does not.

First off we are a representative democracy set out in the constitution by the founding fathers. There are hundreds of years of political theory behind this philosophy but it was basically established to elect a government that reflects the will of the people.

Second pledge delegates in the Democratic nomination represent the total number of Democrats who voted in the last election from each state compared with the total Democratic voters overall.

Third primaries and caucuses are like comparing the proverbial apples and oranges. Take two states MI and MO for example which have an equal amount of 72 pledge delegates each.

MN caucus had 211103 total voters.
MO primary had 802102 total voters.

Also open and closed primaries are not equal either. On average open primaries have a 20-30% higher turnout than closed primaries because in some open primaries like OR Independents as well as Democrats can vote and in many open primaries like VA independents and Republicans can vote as well as Democrats.

Fifth many contests do not vote in the general election like Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands and Guam.

Sixth MI was a flawed primary that did not fairly reflect the will of the people. That's why the RBC had every right to award delegates based on the best available data for each candidate. This is why the concept of fair reflection exists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 06/01/2008
- Wingit I'm a Fan of Wingit 8 fans permalink

Actually the RBC accepted the state of MI democratic party's own hard fought compromise settlement. That is why outsiders should not be complaining. It was their election problem to settle and they settled it. The rest of us should accept it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 06/01/2008
- SMP I'm a Fan of SMP 17 fans permalink
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Obama also had over 30,000 write in votes that werent even considered...so yes...I totally agree with you

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 06/01/2008
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That was just one of my points. It seems like people just don't get that "popular vote" is a bogus number that Hillary is using to justify her staying in the race. Pledge delegates count because they reflect the will of the people. It just infuriates me that people are so delusional and do not have the intellectual capacity to shoot down the "popular vote" argument as being invalid. If we do not see reality in this country we are doomed to go down in history like the Romans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 06/01/2008
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My whole point, pledge delegates matter and "popular vote" counts do not matter for very good reasons. Representing the will of the people by the pledge delegates normalizes these differences in caucuses, open primaries and closed primaries. Anyone pushing the "popular vote" argument is just intellectually bankrupt.

THE FACT IS THAT AL GORE HAD A RIGHT TO MAKE A CLAIM THAT HE HAD A POPULAR VOTE VICTORY BECAUSE ALL THE CONTESTS WERE EQUAL.

HILLARY NOR OBAMA CAN CLAIM POPULAR VOTE VICTORY BECAUSE SO MANY CONTESTS WERE RUN WITH DIFFERENT VOTING SYSTEMS.

OBAMA CAN CLAIM HE WAS ELECTED BY THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE BECAUSE PLEDGE DELEGATES MEASURE THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE MORE CONSISTENTLY THAN ANY OTHER MEASURE INCLUDING POPULAR VOTE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 06/01/2008

Didn't Gore have an argument because the popular vote in Florida decided who would receive all of Florida's electoral votes? That would have put him over the top. The popular votes in each individual state impact more on the general election results than the primaries because it is all or none in regards to electoral votes per state, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 06/01/2008
- ntmessage I'm a Fan of ntmessage 38 fans permalink

Whatever. She won the popular vote. Please move on, too much of these mind bending twists of illogical nonsense to spin the empirical data that only needs arithmetic. Obama got the delegates. At the end of the day, Obama will be chosen by the Super Delegates and not the voters.

Deal with the hypocrisy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 06/01/2008

By saying it doesn't make it true. Not terribly mature, but typical of many Hillary supporters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 06/01/2008
- slinkymom I'm a Fan of slinkymom 153 fans permalink
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Hillary knew the process when she joined the race. Get that? She understood the rules before she joined the race. If she didn't like the DNC process, she could have run as a Republican. Then she could have gone after Obama as nastily as she wanted.

You can't keep whining and crying about the rules when you accepted them when you signed the documents applying to run for the Democratic nominee. I tell my children this all the time. I suppose you didn't learn this as a child?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 06/01/2008

ntmessage, deal with the facts. Go back to KQuark's excellent information and reread paragraphs 3 and 4.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 06/01/2008
- preatorius I'm a Fan of preatorius 9 fans permalink
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Obama won the popular vote. Nice try...
Obama Clinton
Popular Vote Total 17,389,116 (48.1%) 17,364,592 (48.0% )


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 06/01/2008
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My whole point is that the fact that pledge delegates matter and "popular vote" does not matter for very good reasons. Representing the will of the people by the pledge delegates normalizes these differences in caucuses, open primaries and closed primaries. Anyone pushing the "popular vote" argument is just intellectually bankrupt.

THE FACT IS THAT AL GORE HAD A RIGHT TO MAKE A CLAIM THAT HE HAD A POPULAR VOTE VICTORY BECAUSE ALL THE CONTESTS WERE EQUAL.

HILLARY NOR OBAMA CAN CLAIM POPULAR VOTE VICTORY BECAUSE SO MANY CONTESTS WERE RUN WITH DIFFERENT VOTING SYSTEMS.

OBAMA CAN CLAIM HE WAS ELECTED BY THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE BECAUSE PLEDGE DELEGATES MEASURE THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE MORE CONSISTENTLY THAN ANY OTHER MEASURE INCLUDING POPULAR VOTE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 06/01/2008

Thank You!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 06/01/2008
- robynuva I'm a Fan of robynuva 5 fans permalink

So I wonder if there is a conversation going on somewhere like this:

Howard Dean: Well, Bill, either you can come out in support of Obama on Wed, and at least make it appear that he needs your support, or Al will step in and become the "king maker" of the Party. You will be about a relevant as as the Puerto Rico primary.

Bill: I always was for Obama you know . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 06/01/2008
- NoahVail I'm a Fan of NoahVail 59 fans permalink
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The Clinton News Network is so on top of this race. Did anyone notice this article at their website?

Superdelegates could determine race between Clinton, Obama

My question is, what will happen after next week. Do they become the McCain network?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 06/01/2008
- donaldw6 I'm a Fan of donaldw6 357 fans permalink
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There'll be no change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 06/01/2008
- AMJordan I'm a Fan of AMJordan 27 fans permalink

Not overtly. But if Clinton is really shown the door on Wednesday, watch Fox suddenly return true to form. The Repulsives are going to have to pull everything out that they can play their paws on just to even seem to give a fight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 06/01/2008
- lbrillante I'm a Fan of lbrillante 7 fans permalink

Unfortunately, after seeing Harold Ickes on Meet the press today, I believe Senator Clinton plans to claim victory based on the popular vote and dare the party to take the nomination away from her. I believe she is going to keep fighting. When Tim Russert asked Harold Ickes about several ...after Obama gets the nomination questions today... Harold confidently replied 'SHE will be the nominee'...it got me putting two and two together. She is touting that she has won the 'popular' vote and stating that she wants to keep fighting... and Ickes is happy and condifendly stating today, Sunday, that she WILL be the nominee. I think she plans to declare victory.
I am working to get more energy out there debunking her popular vote claim because I don't know how esle to fight this.... it's irrational to try to count the vote from the tainted elections that invovled voter supression and supression of voter choice because of the ruling that the elections did not count. It doesn't matter whose name was on or not on those ballots... the results were not a 'fair and true representation of the will of the voters' in either the FL or MI primaries.
This mess is going to go on apparently....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 06/01/2008
- live I'm a Fan of live 26 fans permalink
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this is the best explanation i have seen and it is from huff po today

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/01/puerto-rico-primary-voter_n_104525.html

"Contrary to Clinton, they predicted he was on track to gain a delegate majority shortly after the primaries in South Dakota and Montana, and questioned her popular vote claim. Her assertion includes estimates for caucuses in Iowa, Nevada, Maine and Washington state, where no official candidate popular vote is available. It also includes the results from Florida, where no campaigning occurred, as well as Michigan, where Obama did not receive any votes because his name was not on the ballot."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 06/01/2008

Okay, it's all very interesting speculating who will have gotten more popular votes, even if there is no definitive answer to the question. But please don't lose sight of the fact that THAT IS NOT A CRITERION for nomination. The main thing is delegates, and very soon we will know exactly how many delegates each of them has. I do not think there are very many SD's who think Hillary would be the better candidate. She and Bill think that, but they ure haven't shown it. Her campaign has been putrid both technically and morally. She wil have zero coattails and bring and lose far mor voters than she would bring in/ Let's get off the defensive, Democrats. The Clintons are finished, over, bye bye, history.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 06/01/2008

How could she include estimates for those states, when Ickes, et al, are saying the committee yesterday could not assign the MI delegation numbers based on estimates from their illegal primary? You know, the one where Obama and others took their names off the ballot because they signed an agreement not to participate in it. Talk about hypocracy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 PM on 06/01/2008
- kasinca I'm a Fan of kasinca 164 fans permalink
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Popular vote has never been the metric used to select the Democratic Candidate. Rules are set in stone and the Clintonistas will have to learn to accept defeat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 06/01/2008
- carlgt1 I'm a Fan of carlgt1 16 fans permalink
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screw her if that's her angle; general elections have happened without popular vote majorities, let alone flawed nominating processes!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 06/01/2008
- NotMcCain I'm a Fan of NotMcCain 81 fans permalink
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I think you're right. This is her plan, and why they're suddenly (falsely) hyping the popular vote.

I think the only thing to do is email CNN, MSNBC, etc. and point out WHY the popular vote she's counting isn't accurate (caucuses left out, Michigan undercounted on purpose, etc). Also that popular vote national elections in a big country like this are held AT THE SAME TIME, and the results would be quite different if they were held today (Obama is now AHEAD of her by 8% in California polls. So...she wouldn't want that).

So (1) Her numbers are FALSE and
(2) there's a reason to have primaries and caucuses (as each state wants), there's a reason to have DELEGATES to choose the primary nominee.

She's behind in delegates, behind in superdelegates, behind in states won. On and on.

If the situation were reversed, Hillary would be blasting Obama for divisiveness, bad sportsmanship, sexism (trying to keep a woman from becoming president), cheating and misleading people...on and on.

I can't remember any presidential candidate, from either party, who has personally been such a liar, such a hypocrite. Not Bush. Not Reagan. Not even Nixon.

The media (I'm looking at you, CNN) needs to stop enabling her, stop being PR agents for her, and start telling their viewers FACTS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 06/01/2008

They know this. They want to keep this fight going for ratings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 PM on 06/01/2008
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I've heard, flawed, illegal, early, describing FL and MI and they all leave me believing in the rule of law, my Father and Mother called changing the rule in the middle and at the end, CHEATING and all my education from per-school to Doctorate, taught the same.

I've had to explain to my grandchildren, what these grown ups in FL and MI are whining about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 06/01/2008

Can we from now on call him President Obama? You clinton supporters are just upset because your candidate was the supposed "automatic nominee", and took a ass-whipping from a relatively unknown bi-racial candidate. Take a few months to settle down and all will be okay. In time you will all heal. When hillary is finally gone, you guys will see that Mccain for the real women hating, clueless, war-mongering, senile, plane crashing, loser that he really is. You will be inclined to vote for our future president, or you might just sit home. Can see you voting for Mcshame.

Just wait until obama win the nomination. Just wait until you hear about the new wave of voter registration that is gonna take place. New Blacks, whites, college kids, women, asians, bi-racial,that never even voted before. John Mccain can't even win over the republican party, how in the hell is he gonna beat anyone in the General Election. Just look at the news people. The republican are shaking in their elephant boots at the thought of going against obama. This is the reason they are promoting Clinton staying in the race so she can do their dirty work for them. Anything to keep the attention from their weak old senile candidate. Their is plenty of room for you Clinton supporters in the Obama camp. If not then vote for Mcshame, not going work. Then you will be in this total delusional mode again January 2009.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 06/01/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 642 fans permalink
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Come on FIRST AMERICANS of South Dakota and Montana - Bring Us Home!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 06/01/2008
- drzoon I'm a Fan of drzoon 15 fans permalink

they weren't americans until we GAVE them that name. much less FIRST Americans.

I don't know how we ever make good on that. I know it was none of us... but it was OUR country that did the unspeakable of wiping out an entire people.. the imprisoning what little remained.

They WERE and ARE Sioux ...

(that from the grandson of swedish grandparents... but we all have to be aware of what this country did. it was wrong. )

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 06/01/2008
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Amen. In Canada these proud peoples are rightly called natives or by their tribe names. Even Native American is a presumptuous term.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 06/01/2008
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excuse my ignorance but will bob barr hurt mcshame in key states???????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 06/01/2008
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I think he might---the neocons love him!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 06/01/2008
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NeoCons love Obama he is their fella....

The McBama folks used he same old lies, demonizing the Clintons for what? I mean even some of the postings about Bills affairs..since when did the democratic party become the morals police?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 06/01/2008

In all likelihood, only Georgia. But it will be nice to have that state in play this year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 06/01/2008
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i'll take that lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 06/01/2008
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Clinton should of won more then she did in PR lets remember OB is not well known in PR, Clinton and bill are like huge pop stars in PR. Obama still cut her popular vote in half there and with the low PR turn out, it was not a huge win for clinton in PR.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 06/01/2008
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They also got a "record-low" turnout - for the record.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 06/01/2008
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I heard voter turnout was really low, not as much as "she" expected...You know she says she "IS" the popular one! LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 PM on 06/01/2008
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Norah O'Donnell smacked Pat Buchanan down this morning by pointing out that Barack Obama doesn't actually have a white working class problem. He has an "old working class white people from the rust belt" problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 06/01/2008
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Oh and they don't count to you as being people to be worried about?" old working class white people from the rust belt" What the hell is the matter with you?
What kind of fake democrat are you? You have gotta be a Neocon plant int he democratic party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 06/01/2008
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I hope that this report is right. The Clinton campaign, in these past few hours, has shown itself to be totally graceless. The popular definition of a zealot is one who doubles ones efforts long after the goal is forgotten. And I've said it before and I'll say it again, any Clinton supporter who says that they will vote for McCain is either an idiot or a racist. Why on earth otherwise would anyone vote clearly against their own interest?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 06/01/2008

They've voted against their own self interests for years. How do you think we got this STUPID, WAR monger piece of a liar and his minions?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 06/01/2008
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