Puerto Rico Primary: Clinton Wins

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DAVID ESPO and JIM KUHNHENN | June 1, 2008 11:59 PM EST | AP

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Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., chats with supporters at the Kaslata Bakery in San Juan, as she campaigns on primary day in Puerto Rico, Sunday, June 1, 2008. (AP Photo/Elise Amendola)

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico — Hillary Rodham Clinton won a lopsided, but largely symbolic victory Sunday in Puerto Rico's presidential primary, the final act in a weekend of tumult that pushed Barack Obama tantalizingly close to the Democratic presidential nomination.

The former first lady was winning roughly two-thirds of the votes as she continued a strong run through the late primaries.

Before cheering supporters, she predicted she would have more combined votes than her rival when the primaries end Tuesday night, claimed victories in key swing states and said that no contender will command enough delegates to claim the nomination.

"In the final assessment I ask you to consider these questions. Which candidate best represents the will of the people who voted in this historic election?" she said in an appeal to some 200 uncommitted superdelegates who hold the balance of power in the fight for the nomination.

"Which candidate is best able to lead us to victory in November and which candidate is best able to lead our nation as our president in the face of unprecedented challenges at home and abroad?"

Obama and his aides projected confidence, and even in defeat, he gained 17 delegates in Puerto Rico, leaving him 47 short of the 2,118 needed to clinch the nomination.

Contrary to Clinton, they predicted he was on track to gain a delegate majority shortly after the primaries in South Dakota and Montana, and questioned her popular vote claim. Her assertion includes estimates for caucuses in Iowa, Nevada, Maine and Washington state, where no official candidate popular vote is available. It also includes the results from Florida, where no campaigning occurred, as well as Michigan, where Obama did not receive any votes because his name was not on the ballot.

Campaigning in Mitchell, S.D., the Illinois senator praised the former first lady in terms usually reserved for a vanquished rival.

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"First of all, Senator Clinton is an outstanding public servant, she has worked tirelessly during this campaign ... and she is going to be a great asset when we go into November," he told his audience. "Whatever differences Senator Clinton and I may have, those differences pale in comparison to the other side."

Obama's confidence in the outcome of the historic battle between a woman and a black for the nomination reflected the results of Saturday's meeting of the Democratic Party's rules and bylaws committee. Before an audience that jeered and cheered by turns, the panel voted to seat disputed delegations from Michigan and Florida, but give each delegate only one-half vote rather than the full vote sought by the Clinton campaign.

While the decision narrowed the gap between Clinton and Obama, it also erased the former first lady's last, best chance to change the course of the campaign.

With all precincts reporting, the Puerto Rico vote count showed Clinton with 263,120 votes, or 68 percent, to Obama's 121,458, or 32 percent.

A telephone poll of likely Puerto Rican voters taken in the days leading up to the primary showed an electorate sympathetic to Clinton _ heavily Hispanic, as well as lower income and more than 50 percent female. About one-half also described themselves as conservative.

Nearly three-quarters of all those interviewed said they had a favorable view of Clinton, compared to 53 percent for Obama. One-third said they didn't know enough about Obama to form an impression.

The survey was conducted Tuesday through Saturday for The Associated Press and the television networks by Princeton Survey Research Associates International. It included 1,587 likely voters with a candidate preference; sampling error was plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.

Obama had a total of 2,071 delegates in The Associated Press count, including 17 from Puerto Rico. He also gained the support of two superdelegates during the day.

Clinton has 1915.5, including 38 from Puerto Rico.

There are 31 delegates combined at stake in Montana and South Dakota on Tuesday, and Obama's high command sounded confident that enough superdelegates were poised to quickly climb on and deliver him the nomination.

There have been numerous statements by party leaders in recent days indicating they favor a quick end to the presidential race so the party can begin unifying for the fall race against John McCain, the Arizona senator who wrapped up the Republican nomination months ago.

And while Clinton's campaign said it reserved the right to challenge the decision concerning Michigan's delegates, Speaker Nancy Pelosi rushed out a statement Saturday night that congratulated the committee "for its good work."

The California Democrat has been neutral in the race, but also has been calling uncommitted lawmakers in recent days, urging them to issue their own endorsements soon after Tuesday.

Robert Gibbs, a senior aide, did not rule out the possibility that Obama will seat the Michigan and Florida delegations at full strength if he is the nominee.

"I think any nominee may make some decisions at some point regarding those delegations," he said on ABC's "This Week."

Clinton's campaign chairman, Terry McAuliffe, appearing on the same program, declined to say what Clinton would do. "We'll see where we are when we finish up Tuesday," he said. "Then superdelegates will begin to move."

He, as well as Clinton's communications director, Howard Wolfson, said the former first lady had won more votes that Obama in the course of the primary campaign _ an argument she placed in a new television advertisement in South Dakota and Montana, and one she makes to undecided superdelegates.

Gibbs disputed that _ and Clinton's claim includes estimates for caucuses in Iowa, Nevada, Maine and Washington state, where no official candidate popular vote is available. It also includes the results from Florida, where no campaigning occurred, as well as Michigan, where Obama did not receive any votes because his name was not on the ballot.

Clinton's campaign objected to the rules committee decision on Michigan's delegates, saying it had arbitrarily taken four delegates away from the former first lady and awarded them to Obama. As a result, officials said she may seek a decision on the issue by the convention credentials committee, which meets shortly before the convention opens in Denver.

Harold Ickes, a top adviser to Clinton, said on NBC's "Meet The Press" no decision had yet been made.

"I have not had a chance to talk with Senator Clinton at any length about it, and obviously this will be a big decision. But her rights are reserved," he said.

But one of her strongest supporters, Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, sounded uninterested in a further challenge.

"I don't think we're going to fight this at the convention, because even were we to win it, unless it's going to change enough delegates for Senator Clinton to win the nomination, then it would be a fight that would have no purpose," Rendell said on CBS' "Face the Nation."

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Associated Press writer Danica Coto contributed to this report. AP Special Correspondent David Espo reported from Washington.

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico — Hillary Rodham Clinton won a lopsided, but largely symbolic victory Sunday in Puerto Rico's presidential primary, the final act in a weekend of tumult that pushed Barack ...
SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico — Hillary Rodham Clinton won a lopsided, but largely symbolic victory Sunday in Puerto Rico's presidential primary, the final act in a weekend of tumult that pushed Barack ...
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- JR49 I'm a Fan of JR49 4 fans permalink

Who gives the shit? Porto Rico is not going to elect our presiden in November so they can enjoy the summer and margaritas...and stop vasting time for Demoratic primaries.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 06/01/2008
- wmbear I'm a Fan of wmbear 24 fans permalink

DON'T CRY FOR HER PUERTO RICO...

You know she never left you....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 06/01/2008
- Roose I'm a Fan of Roose 11 fans permalink

Yeap, Puerto Rico is Eva Peron's swan song. Good riddance!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 06/01/2008
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I love how McCauliff or however you spell it always talks about how Obama outspends her. I guess he does not realize that the fact that she is broke does no bode well for winning the general election. His argument is also ridiculous because Hillary, Bill and Chelsea pretty much planted themselves in WV, KY and PR to get those wins and money was not a factor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 06/01/2008
- kesiac I'm a Fan of kesiac 10 fans permalink
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Conratulations Hillary! Good win in Puerto Rico.
With that being said, the popular vote arguement is bogus. First as we all know, the caucases, which highly favored Obama, did not count votes. If you count only primaries (including Florida), Obama has 17.3 mil and Clinton has 17.1 mil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 06/01/2008
- maxfusion I'm a Fan of maxfusion 12 fans permalink

She is winning the popular vote. The phony Marxist Husein will be trounced by Hillary. You go girl. HillBilly in 08.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 06/01/2008
- richmc I'm a Fan of richmc 6 fans permalink

Right, not bad for a republican operative. You even almost spelled Hussein correctly.

Why so scared of a little Marxism? We could use some Marxism in this country right now. Like, let's nationalize the oil companies and use their profits to pay for the war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 06/01/2008
- editorjuno I'm a Fan of editorjuno 35 fans permalink
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Hmm, "phony Marxist?" Does that mean he's secretly a capitalist? Man, these righty troll posts are like a new sequel to "Dumb and Dumber," only not as funny -- just dumb.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 06/01/2008
- edwarvir I'm a Fan of edwarvir 36 fans permalink

maxfusion, Gore and Kerry won the popular vote, when did the popular vote beocome
important. Oh Yeah when a white woman is running up against a Black man.


Sorry.. PRESIDENY BARACK H. OBAMA O8

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 06/01/2008
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I thought Hillary's speech was pretty pathetic and self serving. It amazes me how her speeches are all I, I, I and Obama's speeches are all we, we, we. Obama's supporters say "Yes We Can". Clinton's supporters say "Yes She Can!". One reason the last eight years have been so painful is that Bush never asked the people to help this country get past our multiple crises. People were willing at every level to help and many served this nation only to be misled into a unnecessary war. But millions of this country's citizens are needed to solve such huge problems as the energy crisis, educational crisis, failing infrastructure and just plain getting the country back together again. Hillary seemed to not have learned the lesson that a few people and government cannot solve all our problems. Obama is the only one who sees our problems in a broader context and knows we have to as citizens in this country work to solve these problems together.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 06/01/2008
- Promisin1 I'm a Fan of Promisin1 3 fans permalink

CNN is helping Hillary convince the superdelegates that she has won the popular vote. 2 out 3 of CNN's scenarios show Hillary winning the popular vote. We all know that CNN is for Hillary but this is simply outrageous. Even with Donna Brazille telling Anderson Cooper and others that she and other superdelegates are not even considering the popular vote, they (CNN talking heads) still are trying their best to help Hillary freeze the superdelegates. How can a responsible, major news organization try to turn an election so blatantly and with erroneous data to boot? Of course, we will hear from Hillary supporters that MSNBC is doing just that. This is not true. The only thing the talking heads at MSNBC are saying is that there is no popular vote win that can be made by Hillary or should be made.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 06/01/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1682 fans permalink
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Congratulations to all Hillary supporters.

It was a great and historic victory. All your hard work paid off. Well done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 06/01/2008

woopee doo.. they can not vote in the GE , why do they even get a say in who runs for the GE.... kind of counter productive to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 06/01/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1682 fans permalink
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Question: "In the final assessment I ask you to consider these questions. Which candidate best represents the will of the people who voted in this historic election?" she said

Answer: Barack Obama

Question: "Which candidate is best able to lead us to victory in November and which candidate is best able to lead our nation as our president in the face of unprecedented challenges at home and abroad?"

Answer: Barack Obama

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 06/01/2008
- kj11 I'm a Fan of kj11 permalink

How many Puerto Rican seniors and children will be sad about the 94 community centers and 147 senior centers that are going to close in New York City's public housing developments? This is happening because of city, state, and federal budget cuts. What is Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton doing about that?

The public housing authority in New York, the most extensive in our nation, is being systematically dismantled so that the private sector can monopolize real estate in the city. See the NY Times article of May 30.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/30/nyregion/30housing.html?ref=todayspaper

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 06/01/2008
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If there were no Super Delegates... Barack would have won.

Her only hope is turning over the will of the people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 06/01/2008
- BWonka I'm a Fan of BWonka 118 fans permalink
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Good for Hillary - she won a territory that can't vote in the general. Now she needs to help Sen. Obama win in November. Unless she and her supporters really do want 4 more years of Bu$h.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 06/01/2008
- Alvin4NY I'm a Fan of Alvin4NY 24 fans permalink
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Wolf and these pundits at CNN are grabbing at straws like I have never seen. No one can call it for sure, and their heads are about to explode.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 06/01/2008

Ich bin ein Puerto Rican?

I am less astute than most who post here. I freely admit that in advance. Would some better-nuanced and considerate soul please explain to me how Puerto Rico can send more delegates to the convention than
Iowa
New Hampshire
Nevada
South Carolina
Alaska
Arkansas
Delaware
Idaho
Kansas
New Mexico
North Dakota
Oklahoma
Utah
Nebraska
Maine
Hawaii
Rhode Island
Vermont
Wyoming
Kentucky
Connecticut
Alabama
Mississippi
West Virginia
Montana
and South Dakota
(as well as all the Democrats Abroad
American Samoa
Virgin Islands
Guam
and the District of Columia)
when the twenty-six states alone represent enough to pass a majority vote in the Senate?
As cartoon character Mike Nomad was wont to remark: WHAT TH'?
I'll take my answer off the air, and proffer in advance my gratitude for the elucidation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 06/01/2008

WoW!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 PM on 06/01/2008

They can't vote in the GE and that's what counts. : )

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 06/01/2008
- research I'm a Fan of research 300 fans permalink

I looked up Montana and south Dakota versus Puerto Rico for the same reason.
populations millions:
Montana .9
SD .5
PR 3.6

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 06/01/2008
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I,too, being less astute than most others wonders HOW they can have so many delegates at the convention when they DON'T vote in the general election?!?

AND not for anything, but if Hillary was so principled about EVERY vote counting, esp in FL, then WHY didn't she (and the other dems) do anything to fix the voting problems, discrepancies, theft... ?? Hel-LO people - the GOP stole the last 2 presidential elections... is it going to be a THREEPEAT???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 PM on 06/01/2008
- editorjuno I'm a Fan of editorjuno 35 fans permalink
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Not even worth thinking about, since (a)PR doesn't vote in then general election or have Senators and (b)The United States Senate is an undemocratic institution by design -- that's why ID, WY, and AK have the same number of Senators as CA, TX, and NY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 06/01/2008

"The Senate is an undemocratic insititution by design"?
How in the world do you figure THAT?
I mean, I'm just curious -- you do understand WHY the Founders SET UP the House and Senate they way they DID, don't you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 06/01/2008
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