Obama's Debt To Harold Ickes

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First Posted: 06- 3-08 02:30 AM   |   Updated: 06-10-08 05:12 AM

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Barack Obama stands on the brink of capturing the presidential nomination in large part because of Democratic Party reforms initiated by the civil rights and anti-war movements of the 1960s -- movements in which Hillary Clinton's top strategist, Harold Ickes, was a key player.

When Obama was barely three, Ickes took part in Mississippi Freedom Summer, helping the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party send a primarily black delegation to the 1964 national convention in Atlantic City.

After the Freedom Democratic delegation was denied seating by the virtually all white male Democratic Party establishment, Ickes -- then 24 -- went on to help organize the party's reformist Harold Hughes Commission, the precursor to the McGovern Commission.

The anger against entrenched power of the old-line Democratic Party intensified, and by 1968, young civil rights, women's rights, and anti-war activists were beaten in the streets of Chicago outside the convention hall, and the protests of dissidents were gaveled down by party bosses on the convention floor. The outrage gave birth to the Democratic Party's Commission on Party Structure and Delegate Selection, aka the McGovern Commission.

Writing in the January 1970 issue of Harper's about the '68 convention, McGovern described the "tumultuous floor debate, bloodshed and tear gas in the streets...it also evokes the image of rigged procedures, a political party assembled to reach predetermined decisions. The convention became the shame of the Democratic Party."

Coming out of the turmoil of the sixties, the 1972 McGovern rules, as they came to be known, radically altered the way Democrats pick their presidential nominees, opening up the political process by mandating proportional inclusion of previously excluded constituencies -- African Americans, voters under 30, and women.

All of the reforms adopted then, and modified over the years, have been in play this year, including the expanded role in party proceedings of blacks, women, and the young; the required use of proportional representation; and superdelegates.

One reform stands out particularly in Obama's march to victory: the much wider use of open caucuses as a key component of the nomination process. Caucuses differ from primaries in that participants must spend many hours in a complex rule-ridden bargaining process that determines how a precinct or ward will allocate its support among the presidential candidates.

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Now, some 36 years after the adoption of the McGovern rules, caucuses as a vehicle for the selection of convention delegates have empowered a key Obama constituency: young and relatively well-educated social-cultural liberals -- just the class of political activists that Ickes and the Clintons came out of and made salient.

In the arcane caucus procedures, with turnout ranging from only two to eight percent of the eligible Democratic electorate (compared to voter participation rates in primaries ranging from 20 to 35 percent), smart and strategically savvy party activists make up a disproportionately large share of participants.

"The caucuses made Obama, there is no doubt about it," argues University of Wisconsin political scientist Byron Shafer, the foremost expert on changes since the 1960s in the Democratic nominating process.

"Caucuses were the preferred institution of the reformers. The argument of the reform theorists was not about the gross bulk of participation, but about the character of the participation," Shafer said. In a primary, "you could go and vote, but it was limited: you pull the lever that was it. In a caucus, it wasn't that turnout would be lower, it was the quality of the turnout was higher."

It would be difficult to overestimate the consequences for Obama of Democratic Party reforms promoting caucuses. If the caucus states were eliminated, Obama would not be the one on the verge of declaring victory.

As of June 2, according to RealClearPolitics, Obama had a 157 delegate vote lead over Clinton, 2072 to 1915.

In the 14 states that picked some or all of their delegates through caucus systems this year, Obama won 400 delegates to Clinton's 193, a 207 delegate advantage that more than accounts for his overall delegate lead.

An analysis (pdf) published on TalkLeft found that total Democratic voter participation in the caucus states amounted to 1.1 million people, compared to the 32.4 million voters in Democratic primaries, a ratio of 30 to one. Caucus participants made up 3.2 percent of the total of 33.5 million primary voters and caucus goers combined.

In contrast to the relatively close results in most primary states, Obama won many of the caucus states by huge margins, often substantially exceeding 60 percent. As a consequence, he piled up large numbers of delegates in the relatively low turnout contests.

The TalkLeft analysis noted that Clinton won 11 more delegates than Obama in the New Jersey primary, which she won by 112,128 votes, while Obama won 12 more delegates than Clinton in the Idaho caucuses which he won by 13,225 votes. Similarly, Clinton netted 12 delegates by winning the Pennsylvania primary by 214,115 votes, while Obama came out ahead by 14 delegates by winning the Kansas caucuses by 17,710 votes.

Charles Stewart III of MIT did a separate analysis of primaries and caucuses with results similar to those of the Talk Left study, finding that in primary states, Clinton won 1,557.5 delegates, 16 more delegates than Obama's 1,521.5. In caucus states, Stewart found, Obama won 366 delegates, or 191 more than Clinton's 175.

In private, a number of Clinton strategists now acknowledge that they made a disastrous, if not fatal, mistake in failing to recognize the profound impact of the caucuses on the delegate count.

"We just thought we'd win the primaries, and the caucuses would follow along," one key Clinton strategist said. "It's on the top of the list of things we'd like to do over."

Barack Obama stands on the brink of capturing the presidential nomination in large part because of Democratic Party reforms initiated by the civil rights and anti-war movements of the 1960s -- movemen...
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- JJeff88 I'm a Fan of JJeff88 23 fans permalink

Harold did good back then.

Not so good recently.

Kudos for the good. Scorn for the not-so-good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 06/03/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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That's "fair & reasonable" -

Just like : Obama '08.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 06/03/2008
- jayburd I'm a Fan of jayburd 14 fans permalink
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We all owe a debt to Mr. Ickes. Not just Obama. However, history has shown us that the oppressed often become the oppressors. He effectively wanted to disenfranchise every Obama supporter in the state of Michigan in favor of his candidate. And he talks of gall and chutzpah???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 06/03/2008
- sueno I'm a Fan of sueno 14 fans permalink

I didn't know about Ickes history with the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party.
"Ickkey" as I like to call him, needs to show the progressive thinking that he put into practice then.
Right now, he is a false and hollow representitive of the past and an architect of racial division
that has shaped this race.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 06/03/2008
- HerbTee I'm a Fan of HerbTee 118 fans permalink
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"Right now, he is a false and hollow representitive of the past and an architect of racial division
that has shaped this race."

Hear, here Sue. That's the way I see "Ickkey" too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 06/03/2008
- valleygent I'm a Fan of valleygent 24 fans permalink

Frankly, the behavior displayed by Harold Ickes in the last 6 months is good reason to shed those that think in his modality from the tent. Ickes is an obstacle at this point. If his heart was truly in the civil rights movement, he would have supported the better candidate, Barack Obama, the First African American to reach the nomination of a major party and quite possibly the very first African American President of the United States. As it stands now, he will be remembered, as will the Clinton's, as standing against the central goal of the civil rights movement, and in its most critical hour. That is unforgivable in my book. I look upon him with disgust.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 06/03/2008
- ToddG I'm a Fan of ToddG 4 fans permalink

Since the GE is not made up of caucus', those of us who are Obama supporters better start working overtime if we are going to win in November. If all of the primaries had been actual votes, it isn't so clear that Obama would have won.

That said, clearly Obama's strategists were more clever than Hillary's and hopefully those smarts and the organizational skills that won all of those caucus delegate votes will be used to prove the pundits wrong yet again. I do believe that Obama can run a different campaign that gets young people involved in a way that really disrupts conventional thinking. But that is going to be critical for Democratic success as I am not sure that the poor white uneducated vote will come around by November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 06/03/2008

One can debate about number of primary voters vs. number of caucus voters, the fairness and efficacy of our current system, the history of voting rights, etc. It's always fun to review the numbers once the game is done. And hearing about Ickes role in historical decisions leading up to this contest is fascinating.

But there is one thing no one can debate: the rules were in place at the beginning of this contest were clear. Obama played by these rules. He made decisions based on the playing field that was agreed to by all. And through his campaign's strategic decisions, Obama managed to get more delegates than Clinton.

Had there been more primaries, I would guess Obama would have employed a different strategy. But any second guessing of his legitimacy at this point is nothing short of sour grapes.

Ultimately, all that counts are the rules and the total delegates. If they want to change the rules of the game for next time, then fine, let's have a debate. But there is only one set of rules that counts this time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 06/03/2008
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AP:.......................... Hillary with step down tonight without a problem and work with obama!!!!!!!


Fired Up.........................Ready to GO!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 06/03/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 243 fans permalink

Oh geez, I can hardly see here through these salty tears ... MSN, AP reporting that Hillary will say tonite that Obama is the NOMINEE! Ooooh, I'm cryin' my heart out here!!

Amen!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 AM on 06/03/2008

Barack Obama is indebted to Ickes about as much as an old lady is to a stranger helping her across the street.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 06/03/2008
- shengirl I'm a Fan of shengirl 10 fans permalink

Obama owes a debt to Ickes and everybody else in the early days of the Civil Rights movement...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 06/03/2008
- rowzeer I'm a Fan of rowzeer 13 fans permalink

NO they don't. We owed them a debt for oppressing them for so long!! They owe us nothing....civil rights is just that a right!! It is our inalienable RIGHT. Gee masa thanks for freeing us slaves (after years of unpaid labor)!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 AM on 06/04/2008
- jkpcguru I'm a Fan of jkpcguru 12 fans permalink
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Well I commend Ickes for being part of creating a system that is more democratic and that gives the small guys a chance at competing for the presidency.

Without this system, our party, the party of the people, would be chained to candidates who are the wheelers and dealers of washington.

This system was created to give people like Barack Obama a chance.

It gave the people a chance to say, "NO, WE REJECT THE CONVENTIONAL CANDIDATE"

and what do you know, Barack Obama relished in his chance and now has a serious chance at becoming the next President of the United States

The Ironic thing is the Ickes is part of the group who made the system and he is the one complaining that it doesn't work when his candidate is beat by a candidate who this system was made for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 06/03/2008
- BEHM777 I'm a Fan of BEHM777 14 fans permalink
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Maybe this post should be retitled "Ickes Chickens Coming Home To Roost"!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 06/03/2008
- kas70 I'm a Fan of kas70 25 fans permalink
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I like it. Malcolm would be proud that his phrase is getting so much play.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 06/03/2008
- oogabooga I'm a Fan of oogabooga 9 fans permalink

Obama's a better politician than Mrs. Clinton and hired a savvier staff.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 06/03/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 243 fans permalink

Ickes is no more or less than a lawyer trained in adversity ... he advocates for his client ... that would be Hillary ... not America ... the best interest of his client, ah, people ... period!

Obama "owes" HIM ... if he owes any human that would be his ancestors, his dear mother and his immediate family!

America awaits a champion ... our country needs a CHAMPION ... Obama we have faith is that champ ... when he is sworn in as President of the free world and go forward to heal our nation ... we will be compensated!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 06/03/2008
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Thanks to Harold and all who came before. The analysis of the why Obama won the caucus states seems to discount the fact that Obama's camp organized and educated voters about the caucus process. That's what happened to me in Washington state Feb 9th caucus. Interested in Obama in November, I checked out his website, joined LOCAL chat groups and learned about the caucus process and got invovled. There were hundred of first timers like me there, and the people running it were absolutely overwhelmed. We were there for 4 hours and had a blast meeting neighbors who supported both candidates. Everyone there was excited to be there and all ages participated; there were no swarms of Obama supporter that took over the process, in fact a few Clinton supporters who were in the minority, were the only ones who became loud and in your face. Senator Obama won Washington 3 to 1. The fact Clinton has discounted the caucus states shows how out of touch she is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 06/03/2008
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