WSJ: Clinton Used Expletive In 'Unpleasant' Conversation With Clyburn

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First Posted: 06- 4-08 10:58 AM   |   Updated: 06-12-08 05:12 AM

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From a story in Wednesday's Wall Street Journal:

Among the party leaders Mr. Clinton alienated over time by his angry tirades was South Carolina's Rep. Jim Clyburn, the third-ranking House leader and a civil-rights-movement veteran.


Before South Carolina's primary, Mr. Clyburn admonished Sen. Clinton for suggesting President Johnson deserved more credit than Martin Luther King Jr. for civil-rights laws. On primary night, Mr. Clinton called Mr. Clyburn and they spoke for 50 minutes. "Let's just say it wasn't pleasant," Mr. Clyburn says.

Mr. Clinton called Mr. Clyburn an expletive, say Democrats familiar with the exchange. Mr. Clyburn's office would confirm only that the former president used "offensive" words. Some day soon, the congressman says, he'll write about the incident. On Tuesday, he endorsed Mr. Obama for president.

From a story in Wednesday's Wall Street Journal: Among the party leaders Mr. Clinton alienated over time by his angry tirades was South Carolina's Rep. Jim Clyburn, the third-ranking House leader and...
From a story in Wednesday's Wall Street Journal: Among the party leaders Mr. Clinton alienated over time by his angry tirades was South Carolina's Rep. Jim Clyburn, the third-ranking House leader and...
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Bill Clinton is a really unpleasant guy and the single best reason Obama shouldn't pick Hillary for v.p..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 06/04/2008
- SFreeborn I'm a Fan of SFreeborn 2 fans permalink
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Bill Clinton has often acted like the South bound end of a North bound Jackass. So his being less than respectful to this great man, Rep. Clyburn, well it comes as no surprise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 06/04/2008
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Lower than a snake's belly in a wagon rut.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 06/04/2008
- meanguy I'm a Fan of meanguy 17 fans permalink

"Before South Carolina's primary, Mr. Clyburn admonished Sen. Clinton for suggesting President Johnson deserved more credit than Martin Luther King Jr. for civil-rights laws."
cute story, even if it IS fiction...­no one suggested that LBJ deserved more credit that MLK...what was pointed out was the historical fact that LBJ pushed through civil rights legislation inspired and proposed by Dr. King...the doctrine of 'credit where credit is due' , not to mention historical accuracy, deserves no less. LBJ was no inspiring leader or visionary like Dr King. What he had, that Dr King did not, was the clout, the markers to call in, and the ability to use both, to get legislation passed. Dr King had no problem acknowledging what LBJ did; it's disappointing to see this being used to score cheap political points, as clyburn, jesse jackson, jr, and donna brazille were all to eager to do in their zeal to secure the nomination for obama. in doing so, they inadverdently-or deliberately-cast the clintons as a couple of david duke-style racists-which, to democrats, is a reckless charge that cannot be taken back nor expunged..­.thanks to clyburn and his pals, the clintons will forever be remembered, unfairly and inaxccurately, as no better than jesse helms...gi­ven the circumstances, clyburn should consider himself fortunate that he wasn't given the 'size 10 seat of the pants express'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 06/04/2008
- gloriar8 I'm a Fan of gloriar8 4 fans permalink

My money is on Clyburn for that ass whupping. MOST of us don't respect racist and they are.

From the mean girl

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 06/04/2008

Your an idiot and a liar Gloria, and casting such names is very disgusting and dangerous behavior.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 06/04/2008

Thank you for reading up before commenting. Most people just read the little post above and then mouthed off with out knowing the subject matter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 06/04/2008

whats worse is places like the Huffington Post peddled such an impression.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 PM on 06/04/2008
- meanguy I'm a Fan of meanguy 17 fans permalink

that's what the PuffHo was set up for...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 06/04/2008

How true. Now they are going to keep the MSM coverage of McCain honest. HA!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 06/04/2008
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meanguy, perhaps you forgot that it was Hillary who uttered the words: 'hardworking white people'.

the clintons nailed their own coffin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 06/04/2008
- meanguy I'm a Fan of meanguy 17 fans permalink

i'm one of those hardworking white people...t­he kind obama derides as 'bitter' and clinging to my God and my guns and my xenophobia

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 06/04/2008

Former President Bill Clinton's mouth, was the reason why the tide turned against Hillary. Rep. Clyburn, was correct for admonishing Bill Clinton's comments. Bill, should have just taken it like a man, and should have just s-t-f-u !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 06/04/2008
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People wonder why HRC lost.
On other word Bill STFU, you lost it for HRC. Not the media but you Bill..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 06/04/2008

Hillary lost it. Bill almost saved it, but the damage was done when he was on the sidelines. When she lost 12 straight contest. Hillary did that without Bill's help. It would not have been this close if he didn't go out and stump for her. Remember her negatives are still extremely HIGH

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:30 PM on 06/04/2008
- riverhouse I'm a Fan of riverhouse 48 fans permalink

The Clintons just get more and more disreputable. What their behavior is telling us is that they know she'll never have another chance to run on the national stage. No one in their right mind, especially not practicing politicians, would burn so many bridges like the Clintons have done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 PM on 06/04/2008
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it seems like all the media are ganging on now that the clintons have not won. not that he does not deserve this story, mind you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 06/04/2008

Thats what happens when you attack the media like they have been doing.
I personally felt that the media went really SOFT on them. It could have been alot worse.
But i feel like alot of reporters have lost respect for them after watching how they have conducted themselves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 06/04/2008

Really?. seems to me the only story people want to hear is that of Obama since we are sick to death of hearing non stop coverage on the Clinton's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 06/04/2008
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Bill is a horse's rear-end.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 06/04/2008

Don't insult horses!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 06/04/2008

LBJ did the least he could possibly do to further the civil rights movement, and ony did that to smoothe things over with dems in his quest for the white house. His original civil rights bill wasn't orth the paper it was written on, and anyone familiar with legislative history knows that.

Read Robert Caro's series of books on LBJ, specifically hs book about "The Senate Years"...y­ou will be horrified to find a leader who panders so comepletely with the Southern mentality with regard to civil rights (or, I should say the Lack of civil rights).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 06/04/2008

Civil Rights Act 1964. Voting Rights Act 1965. Giant leaps for mankind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 06/04/2008
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yet LBJ correctly predicted he'd lose the south forever for the Dems if he went ahead with civil rights. So it seems at some point he did the right thing over what was right for the party; a lesson that the RepugliKKKans will never learn ("party over country all the time") and hopefully the Dems can remember for the good of America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 06/04/2008

READY ON DAY ONE. WHY DO SHE NOW NEED TIME TO WIND DOWN !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 06/04/2008
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I'm sure you mean: Why "does" she now need time to wind down?

I thought Obama drew the intellectuals, oh yes, that was the other half of his following.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 06/04/2008
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Excellent Question!!!!!!
it's all about HER TERMS, she is in NO WAY a leader!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 06/04/2008
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It is also about "respect" for her. Respect that she has never shown Barack Obama as she never made one concession speech after losing a primary. In order for Hillary and her supporters to get the respect they so desparatly crave, they need to show a little respect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 06/04/2008

There is also the issue of taking the ruling of the Obama dominated DNC rules committee and that disgraceful ruling about Michigan. Had Obama been on the other side, you Obamanuts would be marching in DC,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 06/04/2008
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She's tired from taking too many 3:00 am phone calls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 06/04/2008

I have always thought that Bill did not want her to be President. After reading the Vanity Fair article I am sure of it. I applaude his destruction from within on the campaign he knew the two of them would be destruction to the Democratic Party.

Sir, you have "Dirty Laundry" that the Repubs would love to wash.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 06/04/2008

If you want to know more about this issue here is a PBS video essay describing the Clinton quote and the 1964 Civil Rights Act. It orginially aired on PBS on January 18, 2008:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/01182008/watch4.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 06/04/2008
- Tropiholic I'm a Fan of Tropiholic 20 fans permalink

This man has the nerve to call others "disrespectful"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 06/04/2008
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He's loosing it. Then had the nerve to talk about how his wife has been treated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 06/04/2008
- hugs4u I'm a Fan of hugs4u 11 fans permalink

A long time ago, a bunch of us predicted that Hillary would either be the nominee or destroy the party cause she wasn't. She is living up to whaqt we had all predicted.
The only thing left to do is for the power to be, Reid, Pelosi, and Dean is to sit Hillary down and tell her she got her a$$ kicked out of the democratic party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 06/04/2008
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Wow, the headline is misleading. Clinton didn't just use some random expletive for emphasis, he *called* Clyburn an (expletive).

Nice diplomacy, Bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 06/04/2008

And you believe this report at face value? After all the negative, yellow media coverage of the Clintons?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 06/04/2008

Yeah, I do. Why? Because of what came out of Bill's OWN mouth during the campaign that sunk his wife's presidential bid. He's a misogynist. He's a narcissist who basically wanted a third term through his wife. Do you *really* think he would have let her rule in peace? A lot of her supporters really wanted HIM because they were nostalgic for the 'old days'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 06/04/2008
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Well, if they had said "sources say", then one might not take it for face value. But since the person who Bill said it to was quoted, it is believable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 06/04/2008
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You can't make this stuff up, it REALLY does come out of their mouths, check youtube!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 06/04/2008
- gloriar8 I'm a Fan of gloriar8 4 fans permalink

Back to the sun room with your rhetotic and finish that macaroni necklace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 06/04/2008
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You can take the trash out of the trailer, but...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 06/04/2008
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Clyburn deserved it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 06/04/2008
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Why?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 06/04/2008
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i am really interested with why you think so. is he not allowed to have a differing opinion to the clintons? if that is it, you are just as delusional as the clintons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 06/04/2008
- timm553 I'm a Fan of timm553 6 fans permalink

Yeah, why? Are you privy to more information than was stated in the article, or do you just like to throw unsubstantial BS out there for shits and grins?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 06/04/2008
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Is that why you contributed to a republican? (your profile is public)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 06/04/2008
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