Webb's Audition: Blasts McCain, Assesses Obama's Appalachia Problem

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First Posted: 06- 5-08 10:15 AM   |   Updated: 06-13-08 05:12 AM

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Jim Webb, one of Congress' fastest rising Democrats and a Senator believed to occupy a spot on Barack Obama's vice presidential short list, is slated to throw his support behind the Illinois Democrat on Thursday, introducing Obama at a rally in Bristol, Virginia.

And while the event is designed to help Obama appeal to a portion of the country -- Appalachia and, more specifically, Virginia -- that could prove crucial in the general election, in an interview Wednesday with The Huffington Post, Webb showed off the political attributes he brings to the national campaign table.

On several key domestic and foreign policy issues, the Virginia Democrat offered persuasive defenses of Obama, in the process taking swipes at his presumed Republican counterpart.

"John McCain's comment about Barack not having sat down recently with General Petreaus means nothing," Webb said. "If you know who to listen to, if you know how to make judgments, if you know how evaluate information, you can do that. I don't think Franklin Roosevelt was ever at the front in France during WWII in order to help end the war."

On the other major foreign policy debate of the day -- whether or not a president should talk to hostile foreign leaders -- Webb again offered up a historical defense.

"Under the right circumstances, you have to [talk to your enemies]," he said. "My model for Iran is China in 1971. China was a nuclear power, it was a rogue state, it had American war on its border with Vietnam, it was spouting the same kind of hostile rhetoric. We took none of our military options off the table, we abandoned none of our alliances, but we reached out in a aggressive way diplomatically to bring China into the world community."

Webb has stayed religiously neutral throughout the Democratic primary, but is seen as a natural complement to an Obama presidency. Beyond reaching a set of voters with whom the presumptive Democratic nominee has had difficulties (working class whites), the Virginia Democrat brings with him military and foreign policy experience, and the ability to say he was against the Iraq war (as well as the first Persian Gulf War) before it was launched.

"You don't want to be an occupying power in that part of the world," he said. "It flames the tensions."

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There are, of course, some red flags. The Senator has been a critic of the Democratic Party in the past, having previously served in the Reagan administration but never in an overtly political capacity. Moreover, his appeal to female voters is complicated by past remarks he made questioning the promotion of females at the U.S. Naval Academy and referring to the investigation into the Navy's "Tailhook" sexual harassment scandal as a "witch hunt" -- statements for which he has apologized.

But Webb has also shown that he can win a race with these albatrosses hanging around his neck. And when asked how he responded to the issues being re-raised in a vice-presidential context, and what kind of advice he could offer Obama for the inevitable character attacks, he brushed the topic away.

"Barack Obama has a year and a half now of constant exposure to this sort of mentality," he said. "Scott McLellan talked about the kind of campaign culture. It is a nasty world. The rest of it is just stuff. The Karl Rove mentality is to try and attack you at your greatest strength and then try to show that you are not like the people voting for you. Those are the two major things that they do. And they tried five or six different things in my campaign. And I just had to write it off."

Perhaps the most complicated argument for choosing (or not choosing) Webb as a VP is his bluntness. Several weeks ago, as he was promoting his new book "A Time To Fight" the Senator raised eyebrows over his diagnosis of Obama's problems in Appalachia. Instead of offering the usual political platitudes, he spoke candidly about how the issue was not one of entrenched racism, but rather a backlash to the belief that affirmative action programs had been expanded to every disadvantaged group except low-income whites.

"It is pretty obvious that there are a lot of people, a preponderance of people, who were comfortable with the notion of affirmative action for African Americans," Webb elaborated. "Then affirmative action kind of grew into a diversity program for basically all ethnic minorities. I think that's when you started seeing a reaction among people who were less advantaged among white voters..."

Here too, however, the Senator had a plan. "The Republicans know how to appeal to this cultural group, the Democrats don't even know they exist," he said, referencing an Wall Street Journal op-ed he penned in 2004. "But if you can get the rural whites in this country at the same table as African Americans, it would be good for American politics. I think Barack Obama has the potential to do this."

Jim Webb, one of Congress' fastest rising Democrats and a Senator believed to occupy a spot on Barack Obama's vice presidential short list, is slated to throw his support behind the Illinois Democrat ...
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- researcher I'm a Fan of researcher 106 fans permalink

as i live in az when oh when is the keating five going to come up.

come on demos this man mc cain cost americans 125 billion.

and the repubs want more not less deregulation.

will dumbed down americans fall for deregulation again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 AM on 06/06/2008
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If you want to talk about the Keating 5 you should remember they were all Democrats except for McCain:

John McCain (R-AZ)
Alan Cranston (D-CA)
Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ)
John Glenn (D-OH)
Donald Riegle (D-MI)

They were criticized for "questionable conduct," but in McCain's instance: "The Ethics Committee concluded that Glenn's and McCain's involvement in the scheme was minimal."

In summary, don't bang that Keating 5 drum too loudly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 06/08/2008

"He's a veteran" is rather dismissive for Reagan's Secretary of the Navy, isn't it?

As such, Webb probably knows all the buried shit about McCain. Keep him at arm's length from the Kleen Kampaign and let him rumble, says I. He should be able to deliver Virginia without being on the ticket. It's teetering on the edge.

Obama needs to work on the "bubba" vote, but he closes some options by doing it by putting a bubba on the ticket, especially one with an article "Women Can't Fight" on his resume. Obama should campaign with him at some times and places, but not everywhere, all the time.

Those of you who are post Vietnam should read Webb's great novel Fields of Fire. Maybe twice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 06/05/2008
- Bozwellian I'm a Fan of Bozwellian 30 fans permalink

..uh. thinking disagree..­.Webb hit the "nail" on head...whi­tes who are "disadvavtaged", and YES,there is a large white working class in that category who too feel left out/ ignorred/just handing and DISADVANTAGED who DO feel THEY have just been left to the winds while others due to race/etc have been "catered" to in order to right previous wrongs...T­his is NOT discussed any too often nor shown to be an underliying fermenting that exacerbates the race relation delimmas ...Strengt­h to date is that Obama speaks out to ALL, Webb is SPOT ON, there is a need to speak more directly and mean it to include these folks...If able to do so authentically, no problem getting them on board folks for it is true, there is far more that unites us all in what we ALL want for ourselves, our kids and this nation , but we ALL want an equal shot at it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 06/06/2008

I am AA and I agree with Webb's assessment. This primary season has exposed all the nation's scabs that we either forgot about or many folks did not know we had. We can't heal what we can't see.

I welcome this dialogue and would love to sit at the table and have these discussions. I am ready for healing in this nation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 06/06/2008
- Brillig I'm a Fan of Brillig 11 fans permalink

This comment by Webb was spot on. The politics of division has always pitted poorer whites against the other poor - blacks in America. Keep them divided and keep in Power!

If poor white America and Poor Black America were to truly examine their lives, their common struggles would override the difference in color and hair texture.

Just as an example - can anyone deny that in the begining, the Irish were as brutally treated in the North as the African was in the South?

GOD bless them all and heal this divide which works only for the rich and powerful

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 06/06/2008
- KISSman I'm a Fan of KISSman 7 fans permalink
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VP!! VP!! VP!! VP!!

He's my choice, but almost anyone but Hillary is my choice. Seriously though, everyone is going to have upsides and downsides. There is no perfect choice. To me, Webb's positives easily outweigh his negatives and he embodies many of the aspects that Obama needs to round out the ticket.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 06/05/2008
- unionave I'm a Fan of unionave 61 fans permalink
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http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/06/angry-clinton-s.html?cid=117821498#comment-117821498

Obama campaigned on "no more old politics" . HRC is dirty old politics in capital letters . That ticket would be like two trucks tied back to back pulling themselves apart . He won and the voters that won do not want the corporate media's choice for VP . They want some one young , like Sen Webb who does not have the stench the old politicans have about them . Mr Webb looks at conditions in the same young frame of mind as Mr Obama .

If the people represented in the above blog want J Mc as their leader they should take the money collected by their supporters and buy uniforms and catch the next flight to Iraq . Several other campaigners lost to the winning candidate but none of the others have the corporate media sceaming to have them on as VP . None of the others got their campaign instructions from Mr RM of FOX and his gang of character assassinators .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 06/06/2008

First off, the corporate media chose O'bama for their nominee - so that argument makes no sense.

Second, Mr. W'ebb is NOT young - he is 60, same age as C'linton.

Third, O'bama is going to HAVE to have someone on the ticket with more experience than him. Mr. Webb is just as green - he's only been in the senate for 2 years!

Fourth, Mr. W'ebb has made overt sexist comments and that will sink him completely. He says "he never met a woman he would trust as a leader in combat." among other things...

C'linton is the logical choice IF O'bama can work with her on a personal level - only he and C'linton know if that's true. The rest of us are just trying to read into the media's perception of their relationship.

They were friends before the primary and their platform is exactly the same. She brings experience, intelligence and votes in all the right places. Yeah, his supporters aren't crazy about her, but they'll get over it... just like we have that she's not at the top of the ticket. The stakes are too high. We must ensure a win this Nov.

Again, I say this ONLY if O'bama and C'linton can really work together. Otherwise he SHOULD pick someone else and take his chances.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 06/08/2008
- JDJase I'm a Fan of JDJase 6 fans permalink

1988

Democratic VP was Lloyd Bentsen, the most qualified person to possibly be VP

Republican VP was Dan Quayle -- Moron.

Republicans still won. VP's don't make a difference.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 06/05/2008

I suggest that your Bentsen/Qualye example is irrelevant. one swallow doesn't make a spring. One example from the past is not good enough....­maybe have been true then 40 years ago but not today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 06/05/2008

Spot on. The concept of objectivity is lost on many. Rather than empirical data, many draw conclusions from one example. What's exciting about this election cycle is its incomparability to those of the past. It's become just a "wild card," that I don't know that one can make any general assumptions about it based on any amount of empirical data but certainly not one reference. Because of the attention this raise has drawn, the VP very well may make a huge difference, JDJase.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 PM on 06/05/2008
- Bozwellian I'm a Fan of Bozwellian 30 fans permalink

That goes too for those insisting Obama NEEDS Clinton..t­hey use the JFK/Johnson example over and over...The Clintons would undermine more than they ever could assist if placed in the VP spot on the ticket and we all really rather KNOW that. The Clintons have proved themselves too much "loose cannons" in too many ways and unable to be actually trusted. There is no doubt that if the Clintons get placed on the ticket..Ob­ama loses for sure !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 06/06/2008
- JimR I'm a Fan of JimR 38 fans permalink

Yeah, but come on. Dukakis needed a lot more help than Bentsen. There was only so much Lloyd could do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 06/06/2008

Once again, realpolitik demands that the ticket be balanced. The group that would be most alienated after Clinton's loss would be her diehard female supporters, and in order to address this problem Senator Clinton has to disavow any interest in any position lobbied for by her surrogates, whether she is actually interested or not. Obama must then help her financially and also offer her a position of importance of real interest to her that will not take votes away from the ticket (the vice-presidential slot cuts both ways). Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare and ultimately a Supreme Court appointment would pique her interest, I believe. Finally, Obama should choose a running mate that would appeal to her constituency and has her blessing. That, I think, means a woman candidate. I don't think Webb is really in the running for vice-president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 06/05/2008
- avraamjack I'm a Fan of avraamjack 21 fans permalink
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Except picking a woman now would look like he caved and nobody respects that.
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The next governor of California after Arnold will be his wife Maria. Maria will then be ready for the Webb/Schwarzenegger ticket of 2016.
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So you wait 8 years .....
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 PM on 06/05/2008

Hillaey just ruined it for woman on the ticket, if he chooses one now he looks like hes pandering to the female vote and not what is best for the country!GOOD WORK HILLARY!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 AM on 06/06/2008
- MaryanneAZ I'm a Fan of MaryanneAZ 117 fans permalink
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Schwarzenegger is not a natural born citizen. This is a minimum requirement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 06/08/2008

I don't care how angry Democratic women are right now, they are not going to cross over to McCain just to vote against Obama. They'll cool down and start thinking about the issues. McCain has a trophy wife and he's an old sexist. Obama needs the hillbilly vote and webb can help him with that. A plain tough talking white bubba on the ticket would help him a lot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 AM on 06/06/2008
- jaschrod I'm a Fan of jaschrod 21 fans permalink

Webb is no ordinary bubba. Check out his back ground. Very impressive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 06/06/2008
- AMonkey I'm a Fan of AMonkey 7 fans permalink

As a woman, I believe the best PERSON for VP should be selected. I will not be casting my presidential vote based on gender. It is my sincere hope that Hillary supporters will support Senator Obama and his running mate (whomever that may be).

It is time to take this country back from the McBush, McCheney, McCain cronies and the AM radio Hannity goons and turn this country around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 06/08/2008
- Brillig I'm a Fan of Brillig 11 fans permalink

Begging your pardon, we have already seen a woman candidate:

-completely without honor
-emotional and divisive
-stealing the spotlight
-selfish and narcissistic

Why don't I believe that any woman candidate that would appeal to Hillary and her man-hating supporters would be a good choice?

I prefer a man on the ticket - he would not be pouting each time he had to be overshadowed by his President.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 06/06/2008
- MaryanneAZ I'm a Fan of MaryanneAZ 117 fans permalink
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Brillig, I'm with you. I think Obama's VP should be a White man with counterbalancing positives. Webb is a consideration. I like Strickland and Bayh too. A woman, even a great one like Napolitano or Sebelius, would be too big of a pill to swallow for the electorate since many may have to work to overcome racial bias to vote for Obama himself (sad, but true reality). I am a 52 yo, WF, btw. Obama '08 Yes WE Can!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 06/08/2008
- dartagnan I'm a Fan of dartagnan 47 fans permalink
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"Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare and ultimately a Supreme Court appointment would pique her interest, I believe."

I agree, although it's called "secretary of health and human services" now. Hillary would make an excellent one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 06/07/2008

Obama/Webb 08

simply put.

a winning ticket.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 06/05/2008
- robXdion I'm a Fan of robXdion 186 fans permalink
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HuffPost moderators,

Why do you delay and delete post that challenge racial assumptions of whites, but approve every comment from posters like "Deapthrowt" who make blatant derogatory racial attacks on blacks??? Do you have Hitler Youth working here? What gives?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 06/05/2008
- TMAN I'm a Fan of TMAN 16 fans permalink
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Yea, it's gotten pretty bad. I make a simple post attempting a dialogue and have to come back next day to see if it even got posted let alone responded to. C'mon "moderators" give me a break. A t my age waiting till the next day to see my post is an adventure in short term memory I don't need.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 06/05/2008
- ClareP I'm a Fan of ClareP 65 fans permalink

Agreed. I've posted a number of comments that I am absolutely sure had nothing offensive in them- just reasoned arguments- and they never made it. I was never sure if they just got lost in cyberspace or were not approved, but there was no reason not to approve them- especially compared to much that does get approved. On the other hand, one of the reasons I read HuffPo is that the comments are not filled with crazy garbage ranting, like so many others, but actually has a lot of real argument and info- so the moderators do deserve some credit for that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 06/05/2008
- BP I'm a Fan of BP permalink

I agree. It's random and nonsensical as far as I can see. Some of my comments that I honestly think are quite benign got nipped. Then you see some really vile comments -- I'm not even talking about the viewpoints, just the language.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 06/05/2008
- avraamjack I'm a Fan of avraamjack 21 fans permalink
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Relax guys.
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Huffpost is moderated by people not machines.
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People vary, different people vary more.
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Huffpost is in California. The quality of the moderator's last bonghit is probably the biggest governing factor.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 PM on 06/05/2008

Your metaphor of the Hitler Youth is wrong. The Hitler Youth following Nazi ideology would agree with your position, i. e., " approve every comment from posters like "Deapthrowt" who make blatant derogatory racial attacks on blacks??? ". Hitler Youth types would not approve of "challenges to racial assumptions of whites" as you wrote. At least some whites they would not approve criticism of....Can you name the "whites" they liked and the "whites" they disliked?

So you got it backwards.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 06/05/2008
- robXdion I'm a Fan of robXdion 186 fans permalink
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*blank stare*

What are you reading? MY POSITION is the "challenge racial assumptions of whites" part.....r­ace-baitin­g posters like "Deapthrowt" are having their "blatant derogatory racial attacks on blacks" approved with ease. If Hitler youth were moderating, that would explain the discrepancy.

Get it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 06/05/2008
- plages I'm a Fan of plages 18 fans permalink

Two young Americans who can lead US to the future, rather than falling, and failing backwards! What a team this would make!

Semper Fi . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 06/05/2008
- JimR I'm a Fan of JimR 38 fans permalink

Webb is actually 62, but point taken!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 AM on 06/06/2008
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Perhaps the most complicated argument for choosing (or not choosing) Webb as a VP is his bluntness.
"SO"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 PM on 06/05/2008
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Webb has become blunt in a different way from his earlier days. He has become wiser in his pronouncements and I've noticed they always have sophisticated tactical content, from a political point of view. He has a tough Marine Officer demeanor but a Marine also knows when to shut up. When his opponent got caught up in his "macaca" moment, Webb was careful about letting him twist in the wind.

I think the big queston is "what do women want"? Maybe being no.2 on the ticket is not that important since that isn't really the breakthrough women are looking for right now. I think the feminist argument for Hillary was that she was gunning for the top job. Ferraro's veep run broke the ice but did not turn out to be so important in eight four.

I believe the choice will be Webb, Sebelius, or Strickland. I don't know anything about Strickland but they say he is well liked in the Midwest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 06/05/2008

Listen Im a woman and a feminist and if I dont get a woman on the ticket thats O.K.whatev­er will elect a democrat in the fall.At this point anything BUT hillary is O.K.wiyh me!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 AM on 06/06/2008
- darthdarcy I'm a Fan of darthdarcy 48 fans permalink
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Webb is a lose cannon on a rolling deck..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 06/05/2008
- TMAN I'm a Fan of TMAN 16 fans permalink
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Webb is a concise, no nonsense, "new" politico, who sees the entire battleground, not just the piece that lets him and his constituents feel comfortable. He gets it as does Obama and some other young turks. And they are beginning to take control. They're changing the playing field right out from underneath the "establishment's" war horses in both parties. Watch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 06/05/2008

But he's OUR loose cannon and he knows how to aim. Remember, a Secretary of the Navy will always outrank a pilot! Especially a pilot who destroyed five of his country's aircraft. Look it up. The shoot down was #5 for Johnny W. McBush!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 AM on 06/06/2008

I'm coming back around to Webb. Although not a Virginian, but a recovered former neocon Republican, I was thrilled when he won that Senate seat. After looking at most prognosticators' VP lists, he seems to have a lot of the right stuff to offer the ticket. More so that any other single option that I know about. Of course it would depend on how him and Obama mesh personally and philosophically. I get the feeling that philosophically they could make a good pair. Time should tell about the personal part.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 AM on 06/06/2008
- deapthrowt I'm a Fan of deapthrowt 3 fans permalink

I have been posting a series of what could be called "anti-black" comments (aka the truth) and they all are getting rejected by the editor .Yet, every mean, vicious anti-Hillary post, every lying and mean-spirited one against her were always posted, celebrated and commented upon with glee.

Looks like Obama can't handle the truth about blacks, but can easily trash a woman .Hold on America, we are in bigger trouble than we were with Bush when he could not face the truth and labeled everyone a traitor if they disagreed with his lies. Racism is the new Patriotism cause celebre and the last defense of scoundrels. And the latte drinking Obama supporters continue to live in their lily white suburbs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 06/05/2008
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Here... Have some cheese with your whine and sour grapes. >:-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 AM on 06/06/2008
- Brillig I'm a Fan of Brillig 11 fans permalink

The truth about blacks is that white men like their women. So what are you ranting about?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 06/06/2008

B-R-I-S-T-O-L. It's BRISTOL, Sam. Come on, can't you do a little research? Where's your copy editor? Sheesh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 06/05/2008

I love Senator Webb, I can't imagine anyone else better for the Veep job! I am African-American and was very pleased that Webb took on the racial issue. That in itself took courage and I am grateful for his courage. Senator Webb is an American hero. Good for the Country. I hope he is the running mate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 06/05/2008
- MetryJen I'm a Fan of MetryJen 3 fans permalink

I agree. He made a fascinating point the other day about how poor whites aren't really "racist" per se, they just can't find the fairness in affirmative action programs when they, too, came from nothing and are given nothing. That statement matches many of the people I've met (being from Louisiana) in which racist remarks may be habitual, but are oddly enough, not malicious. These are people that if you brought a black friend to their house they'd be entirely polite, and afterwards say things like "that was a nice fella. You see, I don't have a problem with blacks, I just don't like n*ggers." That sounds like an incredibly horrific statement to most of us (myself included) but when the Senator explains the background of many of this demographic it becomes more understandable. And he's 100% correct that if poor whites and disenfranchised blacks ever make common populist cause, the entire political spectrum will be changed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 06/05/2008
- deapthrowt I'm a Fan of deapthrowt 3 fans permalink

Obama has way more than an Appalachia problem. He has a Hispanic problem. He has a older female problem. He has a blue collar worker problem. He has an Asian problem. You just can't stretch the blacks and the latte drinkers that far. Even all the collected fawning media sucking up to Obama can't carry a single state. Obama has huge problems. Thank goodness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 06/05/2008

The hell you say.

A new Gallup Poll summary of surveys taken in May shows Obama winning 62% of Latino registered voters nationwide, compared with just 29% for McCain. Others have found a wide gap as well. The pro-Democratic group Democracy Corps compiled surveys from March through May that showed Obama with a 19-point lead among Latinos. And a Times poll published last month showed Obama leading McCain among California Latinos by 14 points. ~ L.A. Times

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 AM on 06/06/2008
- tuttlemsm I'm a Fan of tuttlemsm 5 fans permalink

Facts are stubborn things, deapthrowt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 AM on 06/06/2008
- Brillig I'm a Fan of Brillig 11 fans permalink

He has a Hispanic problem because Hispanics were given a free pass based on their hair texture. Sounds silly, but honestly, I have tried and tried to figure out what it is about blacks that whites hate ( apart from their guilt feelings) and Asians have dark skin tones, Indians have dark skin, Latin Americans have dark skin - so it can't be the color.

Unless it is hair texture, it must be simply that collective guilt about treatment of Black slaves in the 300 and more years of slavery in the USA.

Then along come Hispanics, running from the poverty of their own countries, and, simply on different language and hair texture, try to impose their own values on a nation AND deny the African American his dignity as an American.

We have a problem with Hispanics because they are Here - only in the last few decades, but nobody should be an AMERICAN unless they were here for over 300 years - how does that sound?? Bitter?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 06/06/2008
- deapthrowt I'm a Fan of deapthrowt 3 fans permalink

McCain-Clinton is unstoppable. The Dems loved McCain so much 4 years ago Kerry explored offering him the VP. Remember. Do if you think he is your mortal enemy, you have a lot of explaining to do. Best thing Clinton can do for this country is leave this masochistic Democratic Party. I have.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 06/05/2008
- mcgreen I'm a Fan of mcgreen 3 fans permalink

She's not that stupid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 06/08/2008
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