Rahm Emanuel: McCain Is In For A Thumpin'

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First Posted: 06- 6-08 02:32 PM   |   Updated: 06-14-08 05:12 AM

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House Democratic Caucus Chairman Rahm Emanuel teased Sen. John McCain on a Friday conference call with reporters, saying the notion that the presumptive GOP nominee represents "Bush's third term" has clearly become a burr under McCain's saddle due to its essential truth.

Pivoting off today's news of McCain's apparent flip-flop on President Bush's warrantless wiretapping program, Emanuel painted a portrait of near-constant agreement between McCain and the president on the Iraq war, the economy, heath care and government spending.

Referring to the Arizona Republican's widely panned Tuesday night address in New Orleans, Emanuel said: "When I was watching that speech, I was reminded of what Shakespeare said, 'Thou protest too much.' When he sits there and says, 'I am not George Bush and I wish you'd stop saying these falsehoods,' it's clearly hit a nerve because of the [truth of it]. ... And I think with core constituencies [of women, Hispanics, and working class voters] that are going to matter...when you look at the electoral map, he is not where George Bush was in 2004. He has a much higher negative rating with those constituencies and is well on his way on performing where Republicans performed in 2006."

Developing his analogy between the coming election and the thumpin' Democrats delivered to Republicans in 2006, Emanuel said the midterms amounted to "picking the lock" of an electoral map engineered by a GOP-controlled Congress, while Obama has the potential to "change the combination" of that lock altogether this November.

That would seem a bold analysis on the surface, given the conventional wisdom that Obama's support among traditional Democratic constituencies is weak. But later on the conference call, hosted by the Center for American Progress Action Fund, pollster Stan Greenberg provided evidence of Obama's potential to improve among critical Democratic groups -- citing a recent Democracy Corps poll that shows McCain's approval rating has dropped below the 50 percent mark in the last month among white union households, white unmarried women and older white, non-college men.

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Greenberg went on to describe as "fantasy" the idea that Obama's occasionally underwhelming support among these groups during the primaries could be projected onto the general election race with McCain. As The Huffington Post reported Thursday, Obama is already doing better among Hispanic voters than Sen. John Kerry did in 2004. "And we've just now reached the point of consolidation [after the primaries]," Greenberg said. "I have no doubt that those things will move up as we go."

House Democratic Caucus Chairman Rahm Emanuel teased Sen. John McCain on a Friday conference call with reporters, saying the notion that the presumptive GOP nominee represents "Bush's third term" has ...
House Democratic Caucus Chairman Rahm Emanuel teased Sen. John McCain on a Friday conference call with reporters, saying the notion that the presumptive GOP nominee represents "Bush's third term" has ...
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- jsarets I'm a Fan of jsarets 168 fans permalink

If America and Israel manage to somehow get involved in an armed conflict with Iran this summer, McCain's unfavorables will go through the roof. I don't know why many pundits believe that this would work the other way around. If we're at war with Iran in November, the Democrats will win in landslides across much of the nation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 06/06/2008
- RumiSouth I'm a Fan of RumiSouth 34 fans permalink
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The price of gas would top $6 a gallon. You really think McCain wants that? And do you really think McCain wants to have that debate with Obama?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 06/06/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 237 fans permalink

Debate hmmmmmmm..­. these lame guys can't even get with or over a "fist bump"!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 06/06/2008
- demright I'm a Fan of demright 4 fans permalink

I think we should check out "money bags" {his wife} stock portfolio and see where his interests truly lie. I think they can afford $6 a gallon for there private jet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 06/07/2008

People might say we're in Love....., smooch, smooch, kiss, kiss.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 06/06/2008
- SCG I'm a Fan of SCG 110 fans permalink
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Don't throw bouquets at me.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 06/06/2008
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Lieber-tr0ll says "Democrat Party".

Maybe he's really neo...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 06/06/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 237 fans permalink

neo and senile ... moons ago thought he was smart ... guess he lost it when he lost his seat and had to pay biggggggg $$ to run independently to get it back ... vengence is his!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 06/06/2008
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I've decided to take another step to going green.

I'm not taking showers any more,I'll come here for a good scrubbing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 06/06/2008
- AMJordan I'm a Fan of AMJordan 27 fans permalink

And ghod knows you need one!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 06/06/2008
- levibatgirl I'm a Fan of levibatgirl 279 fans permalink
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Hey. It just dawned on me. We're troll free tonight it seems.

That's a nice break.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 06/06/2008

While I like to agree with Rahm, and hope that will be the case, I don't think we should start gloating or proclaiming we're gonna win just yet. Still quite a bit of fence sitters out there, and some of them vote emotionally. We don't want McCain to look like a victim being ganged up on by the 'liberal media' or the 'smarmy elitist liberals' to get sympathy votes like Bush did in '04. Nothing like cocky 'trash talking' before the ballots are cast to make McCain look like an underdog and a victim.

I'm sure those sympathy votes won't factor into big numbers, but even if it turned off a hundred people from voting Obama, and those hundred happened to be in say a swing state, and a swing district, that's the whole election. Remember the celebrities trashing Bush in '04? Wonder how many in Ohio do you think were swayed to voting Bush from that back lash.

Trash talking wins 'points' with one's side sure, but we need to be getting points with the other side and the fence sitters to win them over. I think we Obama supporters should follow our nominee's lead and take the high road. Respect the man (McCain), but utterly destroy the feeble arguments he has when it comes to issues, point out the glaring holes and weaknesses in his plans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 06/06/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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Has anyone told him that he's slipping?
Maybe someone should sent him the chart?
The number of times that I have been relegated to the "black hole" in the last few days,
makes me feel quite lonely. Maybe I should take up knitting again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 06/06/2008
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If they did show him the graph,would he even remember it a few hours later?

(You're not alone it's just we can't see one another in the "black hole".)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 06/06/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 237 fans permalink

Mc is terrorizing me! Graph's they don't distribute in general election pre-school!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 06/06/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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No of course not, how silly of me.
I think the "black holes" could be the alternative to the missing reply buttons.
Please send candles, it sooo dark here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 06/06/2008
- AMJordan I'm a Fan of AMJordan 27 fans permalink

It would k-ill him! Why do you hate him so?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 06/06/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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LOL! I don't hate him but he sure bores ME to death.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 06/06/2008
- HanFeiTzu I'm a Fan of HanFeiTzu 2 fans permalink

Rahm,

Don't count your chickens just yet. A lot can happen between now and then.

Some possibilities that may impact the outcome:

. Obama chooses Clinton, your former teammates who collectively have high negatives,
. Some terrorist attach occurs,
. Israel or the nut in the WH bomb Iran.
. The Republicans pull out the racist ads.

Any of those could make you eat those words.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 06/06/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 237 fans permalink

Your point!?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 06/06/2008
- HanFeiTzu I'm a Fan of HanFeiTzu 2 fans permalink

My point is that Rahm should not be so boastful. What seems to be a non-contest at this stage can change in a minute with a fickle electorate who are easily moved by fear or wedge issues. Both of which the Republicans have perfected beyond their wildest dreams.

And is it possible that Nietzsche can ever forgive me for the typing error "attach" versus "attack"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 PM on 06/06/2008
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What's a "terrorist attach"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 06/06/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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Piggyback riding on a terrorist?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 06/06/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 237 fans permalink

Seeing Mc in person!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 06/06/2008
- SCG I'm a Fan of SCG 110 fans permalink
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It's a harness you wear to attach a "terrorist " to your back. This way you can keep a close watch on them. Sort of like a baby carrier except without the leg holes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 06/06/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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Elitists don't do Chicken -- DUH!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 06/06/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 237 fans permalink

It's just a lil "t" ... after all if we bothl totally agreed ... one of us wouldn't be necessary! He/she can go now!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 06/06/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 237 fans permalink

.... "k" ... maybe from moon!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 06/06/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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oh dang! KeithO should tone down the foundation a tad -- especially when rocking pale pink tie

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 06/06/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 237 fans permalink

I luv KeithO! Hillary's gonna be servin' seafood to tourist in t-shirts, if she don't pay her bills!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 06/06/2008
- MRb1000 I'm a Fan of MRb1000 10 fans permalink

Creditreport.com baby. LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 06/06/2008
- suzyhein I'm a Fan of suzyhein 63 fans permalink
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instead of lookin fly and rollin fat?

her legs are stickin to the vinyl and her possy's gettin laughed at!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 06/06/2008
- Raymondf I'm a Fan of Raymondf 4 fans permalink

Obama is paying them, thats what the meeting was about Saturday night, concede to me and I will pay your campaign debt. Which I might ad should illigal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 AM on 06/08/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 237 fans permalink

KeithO looks pretty in pink!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 06/06/2008
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Now,if the can-di-dates were cars...and you had a choice between..

http://www.flickr.com/photos/norjam8/339230953/in/set-72157594308252940/

or

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bostjan/5401271/

I think it would be wise to invest in the latter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 06/06/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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it's only fair if you find cars that were built the same year as the candidates

oh, wait -- did they have cars when McLame was born?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 06/06/2008
- levibatgirl I'm a Fan of levibatgirl 279 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 06/06/2008
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My p0s+ is in purg-atory­..here goes again

I thought the there was an uncanny resemblance between the two grills.

Wink,Wink,say no more..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 06/06/2008
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They hadn't even invented the wheel when he popped out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 06/06/2008
- levibatgirl I'm a Fan of levibatgirl 279 fans permalink
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LMAO!

Perfect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 06/06/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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I'll try again.
Of the 300 people gathered at his last speech, only the speaker remained awake, and that
was touch and go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 06/06/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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then who whispered the words in his ear?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 06/06/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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It was only "sweet nothings" and nobody heard. Look for a bulge on his back
next time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 06/06/2008
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I've t-ivo-ed McLump's speeches.

Very useful when combating insomnia or when you want guests who've overstayed their welcome to leave.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 06/06/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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You are very brave. I think you deserve some sort of medal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 06/06/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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McAmbien -- the Elitists Sleep Aid

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 06/06/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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My reply to you is missing. It's in my profile second one down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 06/06/2008
- maxdenn I'm a Fan of maxdenn 160 fans permalink

I've been scrubbed with Lava soap. It hurts sooo goood.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 06/06/2008
- AMJordan I'm a Fan of AMJordan 27 fans permalink

"Sometimes love don't feel like it should..."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 06/06/2008
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LOL I can't believe you guys know the words.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 06/06/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 237 fans permalink

Can you feel a brannnnnnnnnd neeeeew dayyyyyyyyyyyyyy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 06/06/2008
- SCG I'm a Fan of SCG 110 fans permalink
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Et tu Maxdenn! You've been among the most civil poster on here, unless I've missed something?

I mean, BG&E we can all understand why they scrub away her posts.....­but you? There clearly is no rhyme or reason.

Oh the injustice of its all, oh the "humanity"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 06/06/2008
- williamg I'm a Fan of williamg 251 fans permalink
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When I look at the electoral map, and the possible scenarios of Obama vs. McCain, I see Obama getting a bare minimum of 269 electoral votes, and having the possibility of getting as many as 360.

Obama and Howard Dean could be a really good fit this year. This 50 state strategy is going to pay big dividends in Colorado and Virginia, and elsewhere.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 06/06/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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From the 300 people gathered for his last speech, only John was awake, and that was
touch and go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 06/06/2008
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Lmao! I considered toothpicks to try keeping my eyes open! Then I realized that what he was saying wasn't worth the effort!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 AM on 06/07/2008
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I just want the picture of McCain bearing hugging Bush blown up huge and put on Giant billboards throughout the country. With the slogan: "Enough Said". These hugs are going to be used again and again through out the campaign. It's much more damaging that Dukakas in the Tank (for those of you who remember).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 06/06/2008
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