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First Posted: 06- 9-08 02:34 PM   |   Updated: 06-17-08 05:12 AM

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The reconciliation process between the upper echelons of the Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton campaigns has already begun, as advisers and fundraisers look for areas of commonality in a somewhat disjointed party.

Three Clinton negotiators - all confidantes of the Senator and her husband - have been dispatched to Chicago to spearhead this effort, a source told The Huffington Post. Bob Barnett, a powerhouse Washington lawyer, Cheryl Mills, another lawyer, and Minyon Moore, a political consultant, were meeting today to discuss three key areas of negotiations: what role Hillary Clinton will play at the Democratic convention in August, the nature of her involvement in Obama's general election campaign, and the Obama campaign's plans to help alleviate her campaign debt, which is believed to be around $30 million.

Such plans seemed expected. What may be more interesting, the source adds, is the B-matter. For starters, the Obama campaign is pining to reap the benefits of Clinton's large-scale fundraising apparatus. A meeting, as reported by Greg Sargent at Talking Points Memo, has been scheduled for this Thursday in Manhattan, with the New York Times estimating that some $50 million to $75 million could be on the table for Obama.

The big loot that remains to be raised by the Hillraisers, however, seems likely destined for the Democratic National Committee, whose coffers are in need of repletion. Individuals are allowed to donate $28,500 to the DNC - which is coordinating efforts with Obama - as opposed to $2,300 to the Obama campaign. Obama has begun organizing joint fundraising ventures on the party's behalf.

The most potentially sensitive matter in the negotiations may very well be about how to handle Clinton's high-profile political supporters. According to a source with knowledge of the Clinton campaign's machinations, there is concern among some members of Congress, particularly those in the Congressional Black Caucus, that Obama won't aggressively support their reelection efforts because of their alliances with Clinton. A few black House members fear primary challenges.

"These members are already facing some heat for backing [Clinton]," said a source close to the New York Democrat's campaign. "But that has been going on for a while. In some place in these negotiations between the Clinton and Obama campaigns, there will be a discussion of them providing not just economic help but moral support. That will be limited to the places where they have primaries."

"I'm sure," said the source, "that [Clinton] is saying, 'Please do what you can to make sure that the people supporting me aren't punished."

The reconciliation process between the upper echelons of the Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton campaigns has already begun, as advisers and fundraisers look for areas of commonality in a somewhat disjo...
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- SiberianRat I'm a Fan of SiberianRat 138 fans permalink
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Geez, it's not a divorce settlement--this is becoming tiresome... I'm sorry, but while the information might be useful, the presentation is very MSM...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 06/09/2008

There's a lot of information that might be useful. Why shouldn't it be taken seriously?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 06/09/2008
- Rotwang I'm a Fan of Rotwang 9 fans permalink

Granted, H*llary received (close to) 18 million votes in the primary. It might, however, behoove her to play nice with the OTHER 18 million. Just sayin'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 06/09/2008
- benne I'm a Fan of benne 10 fans permalink

Why is there always talk about her "playing nicely" and being gracious and never talk about him doing the same? Instead, we have to hear about his need to look strong, which apparently means dissing Hillary. If she's going to help him, as she already has, then he needs to help and respect her. I am a supporter of her that is waiting to see if he's man enough to put her on the ticket. Only if he does this might I be able to overcome my aversion to his anti-Democratic tactics and vote for the ticket. If he doesn't, as I expect he won't, then I'm not voting for the ticket. I'm not alone. I'm just saying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 PM on 06/09/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 267 fans permalink
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He can respect her and still not put her on the ticket, the two are very consistent, no contradicton. I imagine he has respect for other people as well, some of whom will be on his short list for VP. The question is whether they can work together---they both have very strong personalities and that can sometimes be trou le in forming a team--- and whether she is 100% behind him. Even if he doesn't choose her, I've never seen a candiate show as much respect for a rival as O has for H.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 06/09/2008
- arspar183 I'm a Fan of arspar183 4 fans permalink
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Man enough to put her on the ticket! The main reason against that is that Obabma's campaign is all about change, she jsut wouldn't fit. By the way obama has been very gracious toward Hillary, (in Mn abd at AIPAC and many other times) you just refuse to acknowledge it. Also, Bill would have to agree to be vetted before Hill could be placed on the ticket. I love Bill and Hill, and believe Hill wil be a mover and shaker for many years to come.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 06/09/2008
- Rotwang I'm a Fan of Rotwang 9 fans permalink

We will never get anywhere until we all get past the grade-school concept of "dissing." This was a two-sided contest where both candidates went at each other (directly or through surrogates), both were skinned by the media, and both had an arguable strategy for "gaming" the delegate rules, which were open to being gamed. Both played hardball, both took their licks, but in the end even some of her supporters on the RBC voted against her. That's politics, and she knows that better than anyone.

I don't see either candidate being especially arrogant or condescending, and I'm pretty sure unity is achievable. She's been gracious and he's praised her at every opportunity. Only her supporters are pushing the notion that her 18 million has a special grievance against his 18 million. That's the part I can't figure out. And maybe I spend too much time lurking on the anti-O blogs, but I feel the occasional need to point out that NOBODY's going to the White House -- 2008 OR 2012 -- unless her 18 million and his 18 million quit dick-slapping each other over perceived slights and "disresepect."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 06/09/2008
- ohmercy I'm a Fan of ohmercy 25 fans permalink

just don't vote McCain, Pleeeaaassseee.?

I do know what you are saying.
But think about it, these people posting here... and as you see there are few clinton supporters left on HuffPo... I think by and large are very young, at least the really hateful ones (at least I hope they are very young. It would be pretty disturbing to think that adults were behaving this way) Our culture has become so crass and there is such a lack of civility and these kids come from that.
Look at what they watch on TV, so much nastiness and I think they believe this is how people behave.
I'm wondering if they have been around elections before.
I know I've never seen this kind of ugly hate mongering.
It reminds me of that wife swapping show or Survivor or something.
way bizarre.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 06/09/2008

If he's not man enough to put her on the ticket, I'm not voting for him either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 06/09/2008
- Softnsweet I'm a Fan of Softnsweet 9 fans permalink
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She received the 18 million because of Obama. He motivated everyone whether you hated him or loved him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 06/09/2008

No, it was the DNC playing games.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 PM on 06/09/2008
- ohmercy I'm a Fan of ohmercy 25 fans permalink

oh that's rich.
just saying, you oughta listen to your own warnings.
sheesh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 06/09/2008
- Harrygton I'm a Fan of Harrygton 3 fans permalink

I will welcome all HRC supporters to join with Senator Obama in our goal to take this country back from the powerful special interest that now control it by making a $10 pledge! If all those that voted for Obama match this we would have a combined $360 Million!!! This simple fact would make us unstoppable and scared the crap out of the establishment!

We could do it.... $10 bucks buys you political independence! That's a bargain and all it takes is UNITY!!!

Yes We Can!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 06/09/2008

Good idea.

Now make that a law for ALL future elections. Candidates will only be able to raise funds for their elections from individual voters and not corporations or lobbyists. In this age of computerization a system can be devised using the SSN for eg. where this can be controlled. The amount s/b minimal (eg. $50/voting age individual).
The election can then be run as a battle of ideas not who has the most money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 06/09/2008
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What "we?" When have you ever included the 18 million Hillary voters in your "we?" You can take your welcome and shove it. I've been reading all your gang's "welcoming" messages, pages and pages of it. And it's disgusting. And I'm over it. I like and respect Hillary, and that's why I'm offended, but as far as my vote - I actually voted for Obama in the primary. I thought it was the direction to go in. But I'm not voting anymore this year I'm done with it. So the ironic thing is, you're not failing to win over a HRC voter, you've actually have one less Obama voter. Happy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 06/09/2008

Yes we can WHAT?? I'm still waiting to hear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 06/09/2008

Hillary Clinton was the only person in the USA with the strength and capacity to stand up to the most powerful and oppressive industries -- the insurance industry and big oil. She was the ONLY ONE who said NO to Bush's 6 billion dollar energy bill, which included benefits for GE, one of the biggest corporations -- THAT is why they had to get rid of her, and why the DNC pushed her out. As for GE, Microsoft and GE own MSNBC, who trashed her on a daily basis. They intentionally rigged the Democratic nomination and pushed her out. Who is Obama? What was his platform? Who does he represent?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 06/09/2008

How many of you who are coming here and continuing to drag out the C drama? You know, continuing to criticize how her campaign was run, dissing her for her most recent actions, etc.

Well, you are the same people that just 1 week ago were begging for her and her hubby to go away - disappear so you would not have to hear those names again. You were begging for the media to stop keeping her in the media news.

Yet you, yourself, won't let it go.

Oh yes, I am talking to you O supporters. But don't think I am attacking you because you are an O supporter. I, ,myself, support him wholeheartedly.

But we need to stop this and take the next steps forward instead of remaining in the yesterday.

LET IT GO!! Already!! She is not the nominee so there should be no further discussion about her and her hubby.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 06/09/2008
- WFV I'm a Fan of WFV 13 fans permalink
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You are absolutely correct. I didn't really think about it, but you are correct. And stopping the arguing is the only way the Cs will fade out. Thank you. I will stop arguing and not mention them again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 06/09/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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going2 ireland for VP ! : common sense, rationale, & see it like it is !! You're absolutely right !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 06/09/2008
- Flagal I'm a Fan of Flagal 7 fans permalink

Seems to me you brought it up, no?
But I do agree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 06/09/2008

Great thought...and most will likely let it go, and heave a hefty sigh of relief, when they hear that the VP choice is definitely not her. I think that's the holdup.

On a better note - I hear Obama is going to partner with Elizabeth Edwards on healthcare! Absolutely awesome!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 06/09/2008
- benne I'm a Fan of benne 10 fans permalink

Let's see how well he does if he doesn't pick her as V.P. I'm not the only one who won't vote for him if that's the case. All you who talk about respect should talk a bit more about the respect Hillary deserves and has earned through her hard campaigning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 06/09/2008

You do not understand what is happening GOP mercenaries pose as both Hillary's and Obama's supporters and post arrant rantings in every blog just to propagate hatred.

They will be put to shame come November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 06/09/2008

Then what we need to do is assume that anyone who posts anything negative here has to be a pug. So how about we just absolutely and positively ignore them. Do not respond to their comments. Allow them to continue coming here thinking they are going to further divide the party.

I think that they will realize that we are on to them and they will eventually get board and go away.

Ignore them, even if a response to their comments appears to be from the O camp. Let's just figure that all of the responses will also be pugs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 06/09/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 643 fans permalink
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here's a thought:

how about we stop babbling about this and take care of the business at hand?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 06/09/2008
- ohmercy I'm a Fan of ohmercy 25 fans permalink

I like it.
Good thought.
Lets write to nancy and make her put impeachment back on the table. It would be nice to show the world how Democracy works and that even the most "powerful" (pathetic though they may be) is not above the law.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 06/09/2008

YES!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 PM on 06/09/2008
- sanywhere I'm a Fan of sanywhere 2 fans permalink
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si, ya basta.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 06/09/2008
- Mitchell4A I'm a Fan of Mitchell4A 8 fans permalink

On a lighter note: I am intrigued by the picture of Obama in this piece. I believe that he is about to use the Vulcan nick pinch on his adversaries. I don't think that people have appreciated that Obama has resources that haven't been discussed in the MSM.

"Obama, Spock, and the New Star Trek Nation"
http://msa4.wordpress.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 06/09/2008

Do tell. I'm all ears.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 PM on 06/09/2008
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It's going to be pretty hard for any real reconciliation to start as long as H'illary is still holding on to her delegates and her dream that something awful might happen to O'bama. Her supporters are going to cling to her as long as she clings to that hope. If she were to concede that she lost fairly and release her delegates, I'm sure that reconciliation would be swift and genuine. As long as she holds on and refuses to admit she lost fair and square, reconciliation will be very difficult.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 06/09/2008
- ohmercy I'm a Fan of ohmercy 25 fans permalink

And you KNOW this how?
Are you a psychic?
Stop already with the projection.
aiyeeee.
do some research of why people hold on to their delegates.
There are many reasons.
The way you paint this woman is so ill informed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 06/09/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 267 fans permalink
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Tell us all the reasons you know as to why people hang on to their delegates.
Just curious.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 06/09/2008

Why would she do that? The whole world is watching, and knows the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 PM on 06/09/2008
- WFV I'm a Fan of WFV 13 fans permalink
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Obama better get whatever he wants from the Clintons up front, then, and only then, should he help them with what they want. As the nominee and remaining candidate, he gets to make the demands now - FINALLY - and needs to be sure his needs are met first.

Not that the Clintons are untrustworthy or anything, but......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 06/09/2008

To the victor belongs the spoils! Obama has to make some concessions, and maybe he should put in a good workd for some of her black supporters, but not all. I think Stephanie Tubbs-Jones needs to whither on the vine, and sweat it out.

I also do not see why he has to pay her thirty million dollar campaign bill? Let the supporters who feel she should go on pay it! If every angry Clinton supporter sent $2.00 to her campaign, she would have her debt paid off and still have money left to praise John McCain and torpedo Obama!

Come on ladies? Put your money where your mouths are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 06/09/2008
- ohmercy I'm a Fan of ohmercy 25 fans permalink

wow, you don't sound that happy.
Bitter much?

give it a rest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 06/09/2008

It would be normal to help with her campaign bill, for O. and the DNC. But her supporters would prefer to, to protect her from blackmail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 PM on 06/09/2008
- fair1234 I'm a Fan of fair1234 2 fans permalink

It is true that Stephanie was definately negative during this campaine and she has lost the support of a lot of black constituents in Ohio but this thing is bigger than that. We must all come together as democrats to get Obama in the white house because this economy is heading to hell with the Republicans!! Things were said in this campaine that shocked me as a democrat but we must all forgive and move on. Mccain will appoint a conservative judge and you can kiss your right to choose behind. Also, Mccain did not defend Hillary at his rally when somone asked him about getting that BiT$h out and he chuckled and said he is beating Hillary in the polls! Any democrat that votes for Mccain is not a true democrat!!! If the Hillary supporters work very hard in electing Obama then I think the debt will be paid. I did here that many of the black caucus stuck with Hillary and now people want them out!! I as an African American do not think this is fair but the negativity was a bit overboard this election season.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 06/09/2008
- Softnsweet I'm a Fan of Softnsweet 9 fans permalink
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People are allowed to vote for whom they want. The problem was when race was interjected in the campaign and I did not hear not one person from the black caucus say anything. Yes, I want them out and Stephanie who made sure she was in New York when Hillary gave her concession speech. The cameras really picked that face out clearly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 06/09/2008
- Tropiholic I'm a Fan of Tropiholic 20 fans permalink

Perhaps no help with debt relief until she releases her delegates?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 06/09/2008

That's what I mean by blackmail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 PM on 06/09/2008

If Hillary is not invited on the ticket Obama loses

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 06/09/2008

Is your aka Nostradomus?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 06/09/2008
- AdLib I'm a Fan of AdLib 277 fans permalink
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Maybe Nostralcloggus?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 06/09/2008
- ohmercy I'm a Fan of ohmercy 25 fans permalink

HA!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 06/09/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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Nuestradonuts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 06/09/2008
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If H'illary is invited on the ticket O'bama loses. That is the Republicans wet dream and that will galvanize all the right wingers to come out and vote.

O'bama does't need H'illary to win, and he knows it. After the viscous way she treated O'bama, she does not deserve to be on the ticket. Personally I don't think she deserves any consideration at all. But, hey, that's me. O'bama's a better person than I am.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 06/09/2008
- ohmercy I'm a Fan of ohmercy 25 fans permalink

OOPS, that was Obama not Pbamma.
P and O next to each other.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 06/09/2008

If Hillary is on the ticket he will have a better chance then without her. You are forgetting the fact most people (including me) don't know what Obama is about. "Change" I still don't know what he is changing and I've spoke to a lot of other people who don't know what he is about either. Maybe it's because we live in Florida and he has been scarce down here. He had a speech in Tampa dueing the day when most working class people are at work. (The very people he needs the votes from) And if he is elected who in Washington will help him with all the changes? The republicans? They stick together like glue. I'm sorry..I just don't agree. He has a lot to prove to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 06/09/2008

I heard the opposite. I heard that the Republicans wanted Hillary out because they are for privatizing health insurance, social security, and big oil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 06/09/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 643 fans permalink
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oh brother

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 06/09/2008
- WFV I'm a Fan of WFV 13 fans permalink
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Hillary's out. Her role now is to advance the candidacy of Barack Obama and any other tasks he needs her to do. If she does the right thing, he will too - help her reduce her insanely significant debt. That's her immediate concern. Everything else is secondary to the Clintons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 06/09/2008

Her supporters are working on her debt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 06/09/2008
- ohmercy I'm a Fan of ohmercy 25 fans permalink

I don't want her on the ticket and I am a Hillary supporter --though that seems to make me persona non grata here.

She is too talented, too strong, too smart and has too much to offer to be stuck in a thankless position like VeeP.
There are lots of other positions for Hillary that she can use her brilliance and tenacity in.

Maybe AG so we can actually prosecute the criminals in the WH now.
I think she has earned it given what the hell they have done to her over the years.

Or something with women/children/health which has always been her passion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 06/09/2008

James Carville said he'd be willing to write a check regarding his desire to have Michigan and Florida re-vote.

Perhaps Carville can spear head a fundraising effort for Clinton calling upon her supporters: A. Mitchell, L. Davis, Wolf Blitzer, etc. to donate to her campaign.

It seems a poor decision to have Obama's resources and attention divided yet again, by splitting his focus between taking on McCain and having to deal with Clinton whose choice at when to exit the race placed Obama coming out of the starting gate very late.

Demands that divide Obama's attention in helping Hillary retire her debts, when it was her choice to stay in the race as long as she did, leading to higher debt, when she was fully aware that she would never meet the delegates required to reach the magic number seem fool hardy for Obama to take on now at this late stage in the game.
The continuing splitting of Obama’s attention gives the appearance that the primary never ended.
This only becomes more bizarre as you consider to what purpose those retained Clinton delegates serve, since they certainly aren’t needed in order for Clinton to retire her debt.

J. Carville, L, Davis and company should summon the 18 million who voted for her to help in this regard.

Clinton should release all her delegates in an act of substantiated support for Obama as the party's leader and take responsibility for her debt using her well funded resources.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 06/09/2008
- Roose I'm a Fan of Roose 10 fans permalink

Why doesn't that blowhard Carville pay Hillary's debt. I hear that a re-vote in each state would cost upwards of $20 million dollars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 06/09/2008
- Flagal I'm a Fan of Flagal 7 fans permalink

a buck and a quarter from all 18 million supporters and she is in the b-lack.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 06/09/2008

Ridiculous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 06/09/2008
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Obama is already starting to see a bump in the national polls from the very gracious Hillary endorsement.

RCP Average 05/29 - 06/08 -- 47.7 43.5 Obama +4.2
Gallup Tracking 06/06 - 06/08 2389 RV 48 42 Obama +6.0
Rasmussen Tracking 06/06 - 06/08 3000 LV 50 44 Obama +6.0
CNN 06/04 - 06/05 921 RV 49 46 Obama +3.0
CBS News 05/30 - 06/03 930 RV 48 42 Obama +6.0
USA Today/Gallup 05/30 - 06/01 803 RV 47 44 Obama +3.0
Cook/RT Strategies 05/29 - 05/31 802 RV 44 43 Obama +1.0

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 06/09/2008
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Or, O'bama is seeing a bump in the polls because he has cinched the nomination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 06/09/2008
- sanywhere I'm a Fan of sanywhere 2 fans permalink
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and now is focused on mcmistake

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 06/09/2008
- Keith52 I'm a Fan of Keith52 39 fans permalink
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Money talks regarding the Clintons. IN Michael Moore's film Sick-o Moore revealed that after she "failed" in the Healthcare initiative it was revealed that she received over $800,000 from the Healthcare industry lobyists. Second only to, I think, Tom DeLay. The Clintons are about power and money. Period. I hope they go broke. Or I hope Barack sqeezes them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 06/09/2008
- cornflower I'm a Fan of cornflower 6 fans permalink

Money talks for all politicians. And I'm beginning to wonder about "Change You Can Believe In" when I read at Bloomberg.com that Obama has appointed Jason Furman as his Economic Policy Director. This guy has headed the Hamilton Project which was founded by none other than that reliable Clintonite, ROBERT RUBIN. Looks more like a case of the more things change, the more they stay the same.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 06/09/2008

If you need a flow chart to make a political connection, then the connection doesn't exist. If he had hired Robert Rubin himself, you would have a point, but he didn't, and you don't.

Sorry chum

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 06/09/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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You need to relax. We know he's got integrity. He'll choose wisely.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 06/09/2008
- ohmercy I'm a Fan of ohmercy 25 fans permalink

yuppers.

read the harpers article.
google Obama and Harpers

Its interesting.
Its not a hit piece but really shows you the ins and outs of where the money comes from.

People seem to think that all the money came from small contributions but in fact half came from billionaire bundlers.
Its really interesting.

Als onteresting how he started putting the money thing together as soon as he hit the senate. Before actually since he had a war chest from his campaign.

Did you know the Clinton's ran a big Washington fundraiser for him when he was running for the Senate?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 06/09/2008

She "failed" because they are powerful and she was up against a Republican congress. This time, we finally had a chance, but they rigged it anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 06/09/2008
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