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Kathleen Sebelius, Completing The Obama Puzzle

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First Posted: 6/18/08 Updated: 5/25/11

When weighing Kathleen Sebelius' potential as a possible vice presidential pick for Barack Obama, it's useful to consider two separate instances when the Kansas Governor confronted President George W. Bush.

In May 2007, after a devastating tornado had wiped out the town of Greensburg, Sebelius was quick to highlight one of the unspoken truths of the recovery episode: Kansas lacked the resources and manpower it needed because much of the state's National Guard resources had been sent to Iraq. Going public, she repeatedly took jabs at Bush, scolding his Iraq policies for creating a readiness gap at home. Her rebukes earned her accolades in Kansas and with the press. It also prompted the scorn of several Bush lackeys -- a not-too-unfortunate wrist slapping for an emerging Democratic official.

Less than a year later, Sebelius' national stature landed her in another prime-time position, again opposite the president. This time, however, her task was far more thankless. Asked to give the response to Bush's final State of the Union address, Sebelius stumbled, offering up what observers deemed a fairly safe, some said milquetoast, address.

Taken together, these two Bush-related episodes could be considered the polar ends of the Kathleen Sebelius experience. To be fair, the median of the Kansas governor's attributes lie definitively closer to the person who eagerly challenged George Bush's war policies. Indeed, with Obama beginning the arduous process of choosing his number two, Sebelius -- who, sources say, enjoys a warm relationship with Obama and would take the job -- presents a heap of electoral promise but with small but significant question marks.

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The daughter of the former governor of Ohio, Sebelius rose steadily in the political ranks, winning six straight elections before taking over the governor's chair in 2002 and being reelected four years later. A progressive Democrat in a predominantly Republican state, she achieved remarkable favorability ratings while holding positions traditionally anathema in Kansas -- mainly by keeping focus on bread-and-butter issues.

"By and large, she's a moderate Democrat, truly pro-business, and able to convey a legitimate sense of being a competent administrator (which she is)," Burdett Loomis, a former Sebelius aide and professor of politics at the University of Kansas, said in an email. "She does exceedingly well in forums like Chambers of Commerce talks, where she exudes common sense and competence, while still maintaining core Democratic values -- education, health care, and sympathy for unions."

More often than not, Sebelius has harnessed legislative consensus for her agenda. In a special session in 2005, she was handed a budgetary bombshell when the state's Supreme Court ordered the government to provide $500 million for school funding (Kansas' budget is roughly $12 billion). Discussions went on for days in the legislature, with talk of impeachment of the justices surfacing. Sebelius stood behind the court, and recruited a slim majority of lawmakers to her side. Funds were passed for the schools and three years later the program is regarded as a success.

"She brings people together and gets things done," said Raj Goyle, a first term state representative. "Governor Sebelius has a unique record of reaching across traditional party lines in Kansas to build consensus."

But when she felt it necessary, Sebelius fought -- and often won. She vetoed a bill that would have required voters to show photo identification before voting, citing disenfranchisement concerns. She issued an executive order making it illegal to discriminate against state employees on the basis of sexual orientation. Three times in four years, she opposed legislation that would have restricted abortion access even though one of those bills passed the Kansas legislature by a two to one margin. Most recently, Sebelius offered a third veto to a bill that would have paved the way for the construction of two new coal-fired units in western Kansas, and she did it primarily on environmental grounds, a stance that a decade ago would have amounted to political suicide.

"Elected leaders are supposed to look at the big picture, at issues that may not affect citizens immediately but are extremely beneficial to the long-term condition of our society. Moving toward renewable energy provides opportunities for better-paying jobs, while helping to address concerns caused by global warming," she said of her decision.

Her position was held up by one vote in the statehouse.

"The coal industry thought that if there was one state it could buy off, it would be Kansas," said one legislator close to Sebelius. "She obviously made an incredibly risky decision to deny the permits. And never before in history had coal plant been rejected on environmental grounds."

And yet, despite the dug-in heels and the close-fought battles, Sebelius' standing has risen. In 2005, she was named by Time magazine one of the five best governors in America, lauded for eliminating a $1.1 billion debt without raising taxes. Her approval ratings, meanwhile, hover over 60 percent. Officials at the Democratic Governors Association -- which Sebelius chaired in 2007 -- repeatedly raved about her work ethic.

The Bush confrontation was emblematic of how Sebelius has curried broad support. After tornadoes hit six southwest Kansas counties, killing thirteen, Sebelius publicly declared that National Guard shortages "will just make it [recovery] that much slower." The White House responded by first putting the blame at her feet, saying it was "not aware of any prior complaints" about a lack of personnel or equipment, and then suggesting that the governor had been in New Orleans, listening to jazz, when the storm hit. Neither were true. Sebelius had made at least five separate requests for equipment, beginning in Dec. 2005, and, on the day of the storm, she had been visiting family before immediately returning to the state.

According to a source close to Sebelius, the governor didn't take lightly to the smears. During a visit to the tornado site with the president, she reportedly continued to hammer away with her guard complaints. Kansans of all political stripes loved it.

"People were supportive of her and those comments," said Tim Owens, a Republican legislator. "I'm a retired army colonel and I will tell you, I think she is right... I'm not very happy about the way the federal government went about dealing with the National Guard in regards to the war in Iraq."

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Being a successful Democrat in a Republican state, showing an ability to reach blue-collar voters, and demonstrating a tenacity to challenge the Bush administration, has vaulted Sebelius into any honest discussion of Obama's veepstakes. Sharing a good relationship with the Illinois Democrat and endorsing him fairly early in the primary cycle didn't hurt either. But Sebelius also has blind spots on her political resume that even her most ardent supporters acknowledge.

The most superficial is her State of the Union response, a speech that detractors say is evidence that she can't handle the national stage, but, her office claims, was merely a product of divergent expectations.

"Governor Sebelius believes there is a time and place for everything, but she saw that time as an opportunity not to focus necessarily on the Democratic message or the Republican message, but the American message," said her press secretary Nicole Corcoran. "Governor Sebelius has tangled with the White House before and will again if needed, but the response to the State of the Union message was not the time for it."

A far more substantive concern with Sebelius could be that she doesn't provide what Obama truly needs. As governor, she has had limited direct national security experience. And a recent Survey USA poll showed that, even with her as vice president, Obama still wouldn't carry Kansas (and its six electoral college votes) in the general election.

"She can't deliver her own state," said Christian Morgan, executive director for the Kansas Republican Party. "Moreover, she has never dealt with the national issues that a vice president has to talk about. She has no idea how military budgets work, or what it is like to be a commander in chief."

Because of these concerns, Loomis, who worked in a communications capacity for Sebelius, put the governor's vice presidential prospects at "no better than one in ten," calling her a conservative choice. But he added, should she be tapped, Sebelius would be a tireless campaigner and could very well translate her appeal in Kansas onto the national stage.

"As someone who has watched lots of politicians closely for almost four decades," he said, "I find there are two types -- the ones that look worse when you see them close up, and the ones that look better. Kathleen Sebelius is definitely the latter."

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When weighing Kathleen Sebelius' potential as a possible vice presidential pick for Barack Obama, it's useful to consider two separate instances when the Kansas Governor confronted President George W.
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wayoutleft
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02:06 PM on 06/12/2008
it's already pretty clear the selection committee was a mistake. it's really unfortunat­e Barack has to have a VP at all. as is clear from this and all other commentary­- no one can stand on the podium with him. he needs to carry this himself. he needs a distinguis­hed guy to go to state funerals- that's it.
the only problem is- there will be a VP candidates­' debate. in this debate, joe biden would wipe the floor with any republican who has ever lived except lincoln. and delaware would elect another dem. senator for sure. i don't think biden has a diplomatic temperment for Sec of State.
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NotMcCain
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01:33 AM on 06/12/2008
Sibelius is good, but doesn't have enough going for her as a national figure to justify being VP over Hillary.

Best choice? Wesley Clark. No one on the short list surpasses his strengths-­-a military EXPERT, Southern, a Clinton loyalist, a genuine hero, smart, a loyal Democrat, likeable, good-looki­ng, good judgment, honest and well-spoke­n, truthful, seasoned.

Paired with Obama--wit­h whom he shares a lot of similariti­es--they'l­l be the Republican­'s worst nightmare.

Obama/Clar­k '08
04:11 PM on 06/11/2008
I love her, but an ankle-bite­r who delivers his/her own state is the minimum qualificat­ion for VP. She fails on both counts. Next.
07:49 PM on 06/11/2008
Bingo!

Wilbur
12:10 AM on 06/12/2008
I'm sorry but this is just MSM poetry. The last VP who delivered a state was Lyndon Johnson. And even that is debated...
11:04 AM on 06/11/2008
Yesterday, I posted a comment that Sebelius can help Obama carry Ohio, because her father, former Ohio Governor John Gilligan, lives in Cincinnati and was active in politics there as a two term member of the School Board until last year. I pointed out that Cincinnati is basically a Republican city. If the Gilligan family connection can help him win Cincinnati­, he may very well carry the state because he will almost certainly carry Cleveland. Someone dismissed that analysis by pointing out that Obama won Cincinnati in the primary. But this is beside the point -- someone had to win the primary. The reality is that Democratic presidenti­al candidates do not win Cincinnati in November; Kerry lost to Bush in Hamilton County (Cincinnat­i), 53% to 47%. Given the closeness of the '04 election in Ohio (yes, I know -- Kerry actually won), had he carried Cincinnati he could have won the presidency­. The Gilligan connection alone is therefore a very strong reason to name Sebelius as Obama's running mate.
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cdub1991
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01:39 PM on 06/11/2008
Interestin­g. Does Gilligan still have pull across all of Ohio? I never heard his name when I lived in Columbus 8 years ago. I certainly feel that Ohio is the key to it all. The state is well within reach for a democrat and there's pretty much no path to victory for McCain that doesn't include Ohio. Since my first guess of VP, Strickland­, has insisted that he doesn't want to be considered­, maybe your argument carries weight. Once again--dep­ends on whether the Gilligan name truly still means something in Ohio.
02:35 PM on 06/11/2008
According to a recent poll in Ohio, Sebelius doesn't help Obama in an Ohio match up with McCain and Mike Huckabee. Only John Edwards helps. I have three responses to that: (1) it's early, (2) who knows if Huckabee will be the Republican VP choice, and (3) Edwards really isn't interested­. I think the Gilligan family is certainly thinking along the lines I've suggested here. Look at who was the special guest at the inaugural event for the Gilligan Institute (as in John Gilligan), a panel discussion on the 2008 election: http://www­.progresso­hio.org/pa­ge/s/Gilli­ganInstitu Clearly, the Gilligans are reminding Ohioans that Sebelius is an Ohio native and a Gilligan. I think if she were to be on the ticket, the lure of having a favorite daughter a heartbeat away might be enough for Obama to carry Cincinnati­, the Gilligan home base. I don't think it is essential that the Gilligan name be a draw statewide. Obama will almost certainly carry Cleveland by a wide margin. Carrying the two largest cities in the state might be enough to do the trick.
03:40 PM on 06/11/2008
Geez, if the Dems actually wanted to win in Ohio they would have picked Clinton as the nominee.
02:17 PM on 06/12/2008
Not necessaril­y. Gore won the Democratic primary in Ohio in 2000 and Kerry won in 2004; both lost Ohio in the general election. In fact, there is something of a negative correlatio­n between a candidate'­s winning the primary in a toss-up state, and winning that state in the Fall. What Sebelius brings to Ohio is an important family connection­. Clinton could not do that.
10:07 AM on 06/11/2008
It's going to be hard enough to get the needed majority in a lot of states to vote for a Black man, let alone a Black man with a woman V.P. Jim Webb is a Scots Irish ex Marine who will get those votes.
Obama/Seba­ceous is a loser. Don't throw away a victory that is so close on a woman V.P.
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Vern58
02:09 PM on 06/11/2008
Her name is Sebelius, thanks very much. Sebaceous refers to the layer of fat below the skin.
If you are going to deride somebody, at least lurn too spel.
10:01 AM on 06/11/2008
Can we all please stop listening to those who insist that Obama needs to pick a vice presidenti­al candidate with "national security experience­"? Having a running mate who has a particular kind of issue experience has never -- let me say that again, never -- had any demonstrab­le impact in electing a president. And the reason is simple: Except for the media impact of the way the two of them look together on the final night of the convention and in the ensuing short period when they campaign together, the v.p. candidate essentiall­y disappears from national news broadcasts for the rest of the campaign. Insofar as command of the issues is concerned, if Obama shows competence in answering national-s­ecurity questions in the televised debates with McCain, it will be irrelevant what his running mate's background is. If Obama does not show that competence­, the vice presidenti­al selection can't save him.
As for Sebelius, or any other veep candidate, only three things matter: (a) The visible chemistry between the two of them on the final night of the convention and in the ensuing week or two, (b) the candidate'­s likability to ordinary voters, and (c) What the selection says about the presidenti­al nominee: Can he think outside the box? Is it a bold selection? Because she is a woman not named Hillary, Sebelius would definitely be the latter, and so would be a plus.
09:49 AM on 06/11/2008
If the Hillary supporters say it's Hillary or no one else, then Obama might as well pick Sebelius if that's who he wants. It's lose-lose. If he picks her, HRC supporters are offended. If he picks a male, HRC supporters are offended.
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NotMcCain
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01:40 AM on 06/12/2008
A male who has UNIQUE qualificat­ions wouldn't just be "a white male instead of Hillary".

That would be General Wesley Clark, who is an atypical military leader, a bona fide hero, a Clinton loyalist (could help bridge the gap with Clinton supporters and Obama, whom he strongly endorsed as soon as the primary ended).

He's got the military experience and insight that McCain lacks--and the ability to criticize McCain on military issues that almost everyone else lacks.

He's also knowledgab­le about economics, a skilled administra­tor, and all-around likeable guy--both leader and team player, someone who would clearly fit Obama's VP requiremen­t as "my go-to person for opinions and ideas."

Clark would be a good choice for HRC supporters­. (And Hillary/Bi­ll's finances will never be vetted, so its not like she's even a possibilit­y anyway). I hope Clark's already at the top of the list.
07:21 AM on 06/11/2008
Not enough gravity for a national leader, and not enough substance for a potential President.
09:49 AM on 06/11/2008
We who live in Kansas know that she has enough of both.
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Vern58
02:07 PM on 06/11/2008
Amen Olivia! My dear old Mother is an old acquaintan­ce of Kathleen Sebelius and i have met her a couple of times. She has what it takes, hands down. This native Kansan supports her 100%
02:48 PM on 06/11/2008
It is not just Kansans either.

I proudly call both Seattle and Denver home (bounce between the two) and I am a huge supporter of Gov. Sebelius.
07:06 AM on 06/11/2008
Hillary supporters mean it when they say, it's Hillary or nothing, B.O better read the tea leafs. But then why should he, the Demos love to lose, and they do it best.
08:51 AM on 06/11/2008
This kind of comment makes we want him to pick her even more...Oba­ma won't be blackmaile­d.
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buddhistMonkey
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09:19 AM on 06/11/2008
Republican­s posing as Hillary supporters mean it when they say "it's Hillary or nothing."

There. Fixed it for you.
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Oakland
06:56 AM on 06/11/2008
Pro-busine­ss - wonderful. Just what we don't need. There isn't anybody on that list except for Dodd that can even spell progressiv­e. If Obama and the Dems turn this into a newer version of the DLC, they can kiss my behind. I will take the pledge and vote for freaking McSame or any other Republican­. If I'm going to get their policies anyway, I might as well vote for them straight out.
08:52 AM on 06/11/2008
So, since a candidate has one flaw, you might as well vote for the candidate that has every flaw?
09:51 AM on 06/11/2008
That sort of logic is a dead giveaway that you and your post are not real.
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BluesDogLefty
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02:56 AM on 06/11/2008
Sebelius is excellent
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janmB
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06:43 AM on 06/11/2008
This country lost its ability to pick leaders.
HILLARY CLINTON DESERVES the VP slot. She got 18 million votes and while Obama spoke of how great he would be but not of anything significan­t----Hilla­ry spoke with great knowledge on domestic and foreign issues.
I will WRITE IN a vote for her as PREZ cause I am not ENCHANTED with OBAMA like the MEDIA and the OBAMA-MANI­ACS.
This is exactly like the GWB crowd----w­ho thought this puppet leader made them safer and were enchanted with him til lately. We will have another inept leader in Obama and get disenchant­ed later. ?
07:49 AM on 06/11/2008
Yes, sweetie. Go ahead and put McCain in office. Tell me one policy position you agree with McCain on. As the nominee, Obama not only deserves to pick his own running mate-- it is his right.
09:42 AM on 06/11/2008
Hillary does not deserve the VP slot.

The Republican­s are circulatin­g THREE PAGES of her attacks on Obama. She gave them their ammunition for November.
08:33 AM on 06/11/2008
I'm glad I don't have to make this decision, but the more I read about this lady, the more I like her. Obama's decision should not entail getting a Washington "insider". The country is downsizing­. We're broke, we need to get off foreign oil opium, and bring home about 100 billion dollars a year in soldiers and military. Whoever he picks, it'll show if it's going to be a continuati­on of the same road, or an actual new direction.

If we are to rise again to world power status, it'll take a new direction in attitude. So many Americans want something for nothing. This will be Obama's big test. Can he motivate Americans away from a welfare mentality. Jimmy Carter was right, the energy crisis is real, and America is mired in malaise.
02:35 AM on 06/11/2008
I find Sebelius refreshing­ly well-spoke­n, candid, and honest. I think she would be a great representa­tive for me in the VP position.
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Texas4Obama
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02:31 AM on 06/11/2008
YES Yes yes... Obama and Sebelius '08/'12
02:27 AM on 06/11/2008
I still say it sucks Obama can't put Sebelius on the ticket just because she's another women despite the fact she's clearly the best governor in America. Agree it's probably a reality, but THIS is an example of REAL sexism.

By older women against another older woman who is more than qualified for the job. And it's moronic. Relax, it probably won't happen but it's moronic.

What would blacks do if HRC put a different African American than Barack on the ticket? Hard to say, African-Am­ericans have stuck with the Democratic Party through thick and thin. I'm not convinved you'd see a mass exodus to John McCain, I'm just not. If HRC had won the nomination and could make a compelling case, say, Harold Ford Jr. would help her win Tennesse and hence the presidency­, I don't think you'd see many African-Am­ericans at all bolt. I think you'd be surprised.
08:46 AM on 06/11/2008
""I still say it sucks Obama can't put Sebelius on the ticket just because she's another women""

Uh, yes he can!
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JimR
11:58 AM on 06/11/2008
An African American AND a woman. Hate to say it, but I don't think America is ready for that much change just yet.