Obama's VP List: MSNBC Gathers Names

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First Posted: 06-10-08 05:51 PM   |   Updated: 06-18-08 05:12 AM

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From NBC's Chuck Todd and Domenico Montanaro:

So you think you know who's on Obama's veep short list? Well, think again. According to sources on the Hill, Obama veep vetters -- specifically Jim Johnson and Eric Holder -- have been asking Dem members of Congress this week their input about potential running mates. The conversations are free-flowing but one name the vetters are inserting in the conversations is one that is not a household name... Ret. Gen. James Jones, the former Marine-turned-NATO Supreme Allied Commander. ...

Besides Jones, the other names on the list bandied about with congressional Dems include (and not in any order): Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, John Edwards, Evan Bayh, Kathleen Sebelius, Ted Strickland, Mark Warner, Tim Kaine, Jim Webb, Bill Nelson, Jack Reed, Joe Biden, Chris Dodd, Tom Daschle, and Sam Nunn. You'll notice a few names NOT on this list (that's not my exclusion -- hint hint). Besides Jones, I'm told the two other names that invited extended discussion were Biden and Strickland.

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The Huffington Post recently published profiles on two of the top names on the list: Jim Webb and Kathleen Sebelius. For more on Obama's veepstakes, check out HuffPost's rundown list of the pros and cons of the potential vice president candidates.

From NBC's Chuck Todd and Domenico Montanaro: So you think you know who's on Obama's veep short list? Well, think again. According to sources on the Hill, Obama veep vetters -- specifically Jim Johns...
From NBC's Chuck Todd and Domenico Montanaro: So you think you know who's on Obama's veep short list? Well, think again. According to sources on the Hill, Obama veep vetters -- specifically Jim Johns...
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The name that isn't on the list and which logically should be is Wesley Clark, for the following reasons:

1) Solves the National Security " Inexperience " argument.
2) Clinton pseudo family member. Heck, they love him so much they might even campaign for him in Arkansas.
3) Solid liberal credentials - even Michael Moore campaigned for him for president in 2004...yes­, Michael Moore !
4) Some wise pundit recently observed that a VP choice won't win you an election, but the wrong choice can lose you one. Clark has been pretty much vetted and aside from an interpretable negative remark about Obama's readiness to be president earlier this year, he's a safe bet.
5) Obama doesn't need anyone to woo voters with charisma or stunning oratory. He's worth 5 such candidates all by himself.

Why not make a VP choice early and save the announcement of an all star cabinet in waiting for the convention ? (Biden for Sec of State, Hagel for Defense, and so on).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 AM on 06/11/2008
- Gordon I'm a Fan of Gordon 28 fans permalink
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Why did Bill Clinton "retire" Gen. Clark early?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 06/11/2008
- Mogamboguru I'm a Fan of Mogamboguru 316 fans permalink
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Too much spine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 06/11/2008
- Proxy I'm a Fan of Proxy 2 fans permalink

Because he complained about not being allowed to bomb more civilian sites in Yugoslavia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 06/11/2008
- Mogamboguru I'm a Fan of Mogamboguru 316 fans permalink
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Wouldn't Wes ley Cl ark rather be the best man, to put the running-amok DOD back in it's pentagonal cage again...?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 AM on 06/11/2008

I'd give that job to Chuck Hagel. (with Richardson at State & Edwards for AG).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 06/11/2008
- bodo I'm a Fan of bodo 7 fans permalink

I think it is an error of many commentators to suggest names that could be helpful getting Obama elected in this state or that, or with this or that ethnic group. It is another error to suggest names that would make useful additions to his future cabinet because of their special expertise. What he needs in a VP is an absolutely trusted friend and collaborator who could take over on Day One.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 AM on 06/11/2008

doesn't matter if you're ready on day one if you don't get elected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 06/11/2008

You don't run an election with the assumption that you won't get elected, especially after you had won an uphill battle against an established powerful machine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 06/11/2008
- LoloZ I'm a Fan of LoloZ 2 fans permalink

Absolutely! It's never a guarantee, look how little Edwards did for Kerry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 06/11/2008
- JoJoKewl I'm a Fan of JoJoKewl 32 fans permalink

Why not K. Sebelius??? Might bring the p.o. Hillaryites on board. Some people are urging McBush to chose a woman - Gov. of Alaska say. Time for a woman in the W.H. Doesn't have to be H.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 06/11/2008

Well David Axarode mention Mike Bloomberg and Joe Scarborough.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 06/11/2008
- Mogamboguru I'm a Fan of Mogamboguru 316 fans permalink
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Why not Dick Cheney. Vetted AND experience­d...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 06/11/2008
- pleeezzze I'm a Fan of pleeezzze 6 fans permalink

...and he could bring his shotgun !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 PM on 06/11/2008
- alaintex I'm a Fan of alaintex 2 fans permalink

Kerry could off-set McCains war hero cred.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 AM on 06/11/2008
- whizkid I'm a Fan of whizkid 28 fans permalink

He'd better boil it down with a more vibrant posture than he did in 2004 as our nominee against the deserter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 AM on 06/11/2008

Say what?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 06/11/2008
- JimR I'm a Fan of JimR 38 fans permalink

That's a funny joke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 AM on 06/11/2008
- larazon I'm a Fan of larazon 19 fans permalink

I'd like to see JMac salute Gen. James Jones (ret.).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 AM on 06/11/2008

forgot your morning java ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 AM on 06/11/2008
- Ammobob I'm a Fan of Ammobob 36 fans permalink

Evan Bayh is an excellent choice. Gen Jones is a friend of McCain, so nix him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 06/11/2008

There are some great possibilities on that list, but PLEASE, not John Kerry. He showed himself to be a quitter in 2004, during the Ohio vote count. He had his chance and he blew it. We need a fighter, not a go-along-t­o-get-alon­g loser.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 AM on 06/11/2008
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Ditto, not enough fire......­.He's a lightweigh­t.........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 AM on 06/11/2008
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Not to mention he's a Yalie Skull n Bonesman like Shrub. Haven't we had enough of that death cult?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 06/11/2008
- Bobby I'm a Fan of Bobby 15 fans permalink

Here is what I would do...

VP- Jim Webb
Secretary of State- Joe Biden
Secretary of Defense- Chuck Hagel
Attorney General- John Edwards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 AM on 06/11/2008

A Winning cabinet ! I'd supplant Webb by Wesley Clark however. He's a Clintonite which fixes the "rift factor"" and the Repubs can't pick on Webb's past unhelfpful comments re women.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 AM on 06/11/2008
- Bobby I'm a Fan of Bobby 15 fans permalink

I like Wes Clark as well. It would help heal the rift. Webb has a place somewhere though. And one thing Republican's can NEVER take from him is his position as Secretary of the Navy under (gasp) Ronald Reagan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 AM on 06/11/2008
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Clark a Clintonite? Say it isn't so (weep). Well, that explains why he's not on the short list.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 AM on 06/11/2008
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I like that especially Biden as Sec of State.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 06/11/2008
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I like it, but I think Richardson for Sec. of State. might be more effective. Biden's great, but doesn't know when to zip it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 06/11/2008
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I would like to see someone like Biden or Nunn as VP choice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 AM on 06/11/2008
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Biden is a real Dem, but he never shuts up and would be a competing presence.

Nunn is about 93 years old, a Republican in Dem clothing, and is hated by gays.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 06/11/2008
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Hey HuffPo! There are some good followup threads in these discussions, but your software hides them and forces readers to make extra clicks to find them. Not good! That, plus your long delays in posting some comments, seriously detracts from otherwise generally positive policies for productive discussions. Please work on these two issues! Thanks!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 AM on 06/11/2008
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Huffpo needs to get rid of the censor spooks and switch to a self-moderating system. We can identify our own trolls, thanks! It would make for a much more productive flow of ideas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 AM on 06/11/2008
- larazon I'm a Fan of larazon 19 fans permalink

Maybe it's your name that scares them?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 AM on 06/11/2008
- colleen2 I'm a Fan of colleen2 5 fans permalink

"Huffpo needs to get rid of the censor spooks and switch to a self-moderating system"

Thanks but no. I would not want this blog to become like the 'self moderating' Daily Kos

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 06/11/2008
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Referring to prior comment: Romney, no more than 15 minutes later on CNN, referring to Obama's economics as Carter's economics.

We can see now where the Republicans are going with this election. Obama needs to pick a VP with a good economic, military, gender, race, environmental, education, working class background­... Hmmmm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 AM on 06/11/2008
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As well as the Jewish and religious oriented..­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 06/11/2008

Mort Zuckerman of World News suggest Obama should pick Michael Bloomberg!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 AM on 06/11/2008

funny, I just heard him on Morning Joe not 10 minutes ago suggesting he would be perfect for John McCain

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 AM on 06/11/2008

But Bloomberg likes Obama better than McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 06/11/2008
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Why isn't Wexler on the list? He did a bang up job at the RBC for Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 AM on 06/11/2008
- Kane I'm a Fan of Kane 13 fans permalink

Who will win the Democratic primary?
Should Hillary Clinton get out of the race?
What will Hillary Clinton do?
Will Barack Obama be forced to select Clinton as VP?
Will Hillary's supporters vote for Obama?
What's the future for Hillary and Bill?
Who will Barack select as his VP?

The media fascination of politics is like listening to Entertainment Tonight. God forbid if they ever have to focus on the issues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 AM on 06/11/2008
- Flagal I'm a Fan of Flagal 7 fans permalink

It's all filler. What the heck else would they talk about. The political shows are just political versions of E.T. or EXTRA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 06/11/2008
- alaintex I'm a Fan of alaintex 2 fans permalink

Is HRC's name banned from this site?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 AM on 06/11/2008
- Flagal I'm a Fan of Flagal 7 fans permalink

Nope

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 AM on 06/11/2008
- larazon I'm a Fan of larazon 19 fans permalink

No, but she already stated on numerous occasions that she did not believe in his presidency, because she felt he is not ready on day 1, and she is. That should answer the question. If it doesn't then I'll add this: she has designs on his job. Case closed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 AM on 06/11/2008
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