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First Posted: 06-10-08 10:47 AM   |   Updated: 06-18-08 05:12 AM

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Hot on the heels of California's legalizing of gay marriage comes a new social study on healthy marriages. The New York Times reports that "same-sex couples have a great deal to teach everyone else about marriage and relationships."

After Vermont legalized same-sex civil unions in 2000, researchers surveyed nearly 1,000 couples, including same-sex couples and their heterosexual married siblings. The focus was on how the relationships were affected by common causes of marital strife like housework, sex and money.


Notably, same-sex relationships, whether between men or women, were far more egalitarian than heterosexual ones. In heterosexual couples, women did far more of the housework; men were more likely to have the financial responsibility; and men were more likely to initiate sex, while women were more likely to refuse it or to start a conversation about problems in the relationship. With same-sex couples, of course, none of these dichotomies were possible, and the partners tended to share the burdens far more equally.

But it's not only about how often couples argue - which, according to the study, is just about equal between straight and gay couples - but the way in which they do it.

One well-known study used mathematical modeling to decipher the interactions between committed gay couples. The results, published in two 2003 articles in The Journal of Homosexuality, showed that when same-sex couples argued, they tended to fight more fairly than heterosexual couples, making fewer verbal attacks and more of an effort to defuse the confrontation.


Controlling and hostile emotional tactics, like belligerence and domineering, were less common among gay couples.

So what does this tell us? Well, that heterosexual couples need to put more effort into seeing things from the other side. Same-sex couples have an obvious gender advantage in perspective, but that's not the reason only reason it works out. It seems like the equality that they have in sharing the chores and responsibilities in the marriage spills over into how they view eachother's arguments.

That said:

One of the most common stereotypes in heterosexual marriages is the "demand-withdraw" interaction, in which the woman tends to be unhappy and to make demands for change, while the man reacts by withdrawing from the conflict. But some surprising new research shows that same-sex couples also exhibit the pattern, contradicting the notion that the behavior is rooted in gender[.]

You can read the whole article here, and then let us know what your tips for a happy, healthy marriage are. Do you agree or disagree with these findings? How do they relate to your relationship. Share your thoughts below!

Hot on the heels of California's legalizing of gay marriage comes a new social study on healthy marriages. The New York Times reports that "same-sex couples have a great deal to teach everyone else ab...
Hot on the heels of California's legalizing of gay marriage comes a new social study on healthy marriages. The New York Times reports that "same-sex couples have a great deal to teach everyone else ab...
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Dear Dora_Rice, I was going to reply to your post about homosexuality in the animal kingdom but, I read your profile and realized that you're an idiot. No amount of what I or others provide as proof will be enough for you. You'll revel in your ignorance and bray at anyone who opposes you.

You poor thing!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 06/12/2008

True Dat! Dora Rice is going to get dressed as soon as she sees a lion wearing clothes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 AM on 06/13/2008
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My divorced sister says that the success of my 16 year relationship with another man is because we learned how to fight. The fights with her ex were horrible with name calling, past arguments revisited, yelling, threats of violence & retribution, using their babies as weapons.
The truth is more nuanced. True, we try to argue with a point & resolution in mind. We try to finish an argument & end it for good. We realize that some arguments are just stupid- born of too much drink, stress brought home from work, etc. Sometimes you just want to bitch at your spouse for a minute. It's part of life. Getoverit.
But other things have been equally important. We have learned to trust each other implicitly by surviving health scares together, thru grand Capital Gains & lost employment, family strife, moving Coast-to-Coast twice knowing & needing no one else.
We also took sex out of the argument list. 1) Everyone is responsible for their own orgasms. (2) Love & sex are two different things. Sometimes we make love, sometimes it is recreation, stress relief, or fun. Sometimes it is with someone else. Each of these is fine as long as you are operating within the agreements of your relationship & there is no lying or deceit. Sex doesn't end relationships. Lying & Deceit & Lost Trust do.
Most importantly, I know that my beloved wishes for my happiness & well-being EVEN AT THE EXPENSE OF HIS OWN. He knows the same

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 06/11/2008

My partner and I have been together since 1983 (that's a quarter of a century for those keeping count) and I can only say one thing; I concur. If the love is truly there, it'll carry you through anything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 06/11/2008
- Vern58 I'm a Fan of Vern58 13 fans permalink
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Congratulations! 25 years is a long time with any relationship- gay or straight.
In my 8 years with my current (and final) Partner, love has carried us through many a difficult time. The secret is a real love- one that lasts. Lust and infatuation will not make a marriage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 06/11/2008
- jacqmac I'm a Fan of jacqmac 15 fans permalink

It's really nice now that the New York Times has basically told its readers that same sex couples are---well­l----COUPL­ES! Sheesh! What are they going to reveal to us next? That water is wet? Or a dog barks?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 06/11/2008
- BadCompany I'm a Fan of BadCompany 2 fans permalink

If only it could teach them to mind their own business..­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 06/11/2008

A loving, committed gay relationsh­ip/partner­ship/marri­age, like most relationships, is based on attraction, communication, mutual respect, and solid friendship. The sex is a celebration of the relationship. Paranoid homophobes who rant in all caps are beside themselves with self-hatred. They find it intolerable that others may have what they cannot achieve. They have something to teach as well. Pity them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 06/11/2008

" In heterosexual couples, women did far more of the housework; men were more likely to have the financial responsibility; and men were more likely to initiate sex, while women were more likely to refuse it or to start a conversation about problems in the relationsh­ip."

How lucky we are to have the NYT to tell us these things...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 06/11/2008

I think one thing we homos can teach ignorant straight people like dora_rice is 1) how to use SpellCheck, 2) the proper way to put a posting on a site like this which doesn't include screaming in all capital letters. People like Dora sure give you breeders a bad BAD name and reputation LOL!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 06/10/2008
- debwarot I'm a Fan of debwarot 10 fans permalink

Please - she belongs to a group onto herself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 06/11/2008
- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 281 fans permalink
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Needing speel check in a chat room or here for that matter is a sure sign of a control freak. Take little hammer build a little bridge and get the hell over it.

CAPS ARE USED NY SOME PEOPLE WHO CAN'T FIND THEIR GLASSES!

BREEDERS AS OPPESED TO FUCKERS?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 06/11/2008
- Bibbo I'm a Fan of Bibbo 12 fans permalink

How about arrogance? Bet you're a class act on human relations.­You know the sensitive,artsy type that understands O'bammas comment about the rednecks clinging to guns and religion.Y­ou transcend Christian tradition and teaching about family and know that a family is whatever you want it to be ...2 men or 2 gals or 2 men and a gal. and maybe adopted kids. Its all about wants... especially your wants and nobody but nobody will stop you (the homos) from enjoying your wants. Hey it doesn't matter that you have a high breakup rate...you­r partner denied you what you want. Get out of the relationship and fight over adopted child custody. This will really make the kid feel wanted...b­oth of his dads are suing for custody.Re­member no body cares about what you want(your parents were selfish..y­ou know what I mean) so stand up and take whatever your little heart desires in this world.You are important.­.in fact more important than anybody else and the world better understand that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 06/11/2008
- Vern58 I'm a Fan of Vern58 13 fans permalink
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What planet do you come from?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 06/11/2008

Hmmm....so it's arrogance when I point out someone's homophobic tirade? Wow...spok­en like a true right wing fascist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 06/11/2008
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OH NO!! Is she here again? Ugh!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 06/11/2008
- dora rice I'm a Fan of dora rice 11 fans permalink
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THEY DAY A LION HUMPS ANOTHER LYON, AND A PANTHER HUMPS ANOTHER PANTER AND AN ELEFANT HUMPS ANOTHER MALE ELEVAN,T THAT'S THE DAY i CONSIDER TO ACKNOWLEDGE HOMOSEXUALS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 PM on 06/10/2008
- sheila I'm a Fan of sheila 43 fans permalink

well, i think your post speaks for itself. idiot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 06/11/2008
- debwarot I'm a Fan of debwarot 10 fans permalink

Dora, you have been warned before- unlock your caps key and keep it that way.!

This rant was even less understandable than most of yours (something I would not have thought possible) but I am pretty sure your remarks were sheer idiotic bigotry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 06/11/2008
- knerd I'm a Fan of knerd 20 fans permalink
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THEY DAY A LION HUMPS ANOTHER LYON, AND A PANTHER HUMPS ANOTHER PANTER AND AN ELEFANT HUMPS ANOTHER MALE ELEVAN,T THAT'S THE DAY i CONSIDER TO ACKNOWLEDGE HOMOSEXUALS.

The day a close-minded person begins to pay attention to facts instead of ignorance and bigotry, that's the day I consider acknowledging posters like dora-rice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_animals

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 06/11/2008
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My fixed female dog used to hump my fixed male cat all the time. What does that mean?

Man, I'd love to see a male ELEVAN,T. Buwaaahaahaaa! Ignorance is bliss, huh, Dora?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 06/11/2008
- DMSmith I'm a Fan of DMSmith 17 fans permalink

The last time I heard this stupid argument was about 25 years ago. A preacher was at work behind a solid podium set up on an outside courtyard area of a college. He was ranting on about how DOGS didn't do this, that it wasn't found in nature, only in un-natural acts of people.

The whole time he was going on, my male dog was literally humping another male dog, FULL ON, in front of everyone. The poor preacher never could figure out why everyone was laughing so loudly.

dora...if what you need is to see other animals doing this...mov­e on. They do, and always have.

In addition, dear, I'm all natural myself. And I do it. So, as you so poorly state 'consider to acknowledge homosexual­s.' It's time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 AM on 06/11/2008
- Vern58 I'm a Fan of Vern58 13 fans permalink
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rather than your hate filled bigoted all caps rant, maybe you could consider some anger management and medication. you will be a dinosaur soon enough. BTW- LURN TOO SPEL.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 06/11/2008
- rbryanh I'm a Fan of rbryanh 115 fans permalink

Questions to ask your heterosexual married friends when they talk about their chosen lifestyle.­..

Do you role play?
Which one of you plays the woman? Why?
Have you ever noticed that conducting all your intimate relationships according to the same model everyone else uses works about as well as buying all your clothes at Wal-Mart?
Do your kids have such awful haircuts because none of the good hairdressers in town is your ex?
Do you get divorced because you're afraid to invite the person you're having sex with to dinner with your spouse?
Is it true you reproduce because you can't recruit?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 06/10/2008
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Gays teaching straights? Are you mad? Phyllis Schlafly (or whatever the frig her name is) will come unglued. Rev Shelton will picket your house.

Don't you know Massachusets has been undone because gay marriage has been legal there now for months/years???? OOPS. Massachusets.is still there? No one died of gay marriage exposure? No straight marriages have failed because of gay marriage? No straights have "CHOSEN" to be gay, like gays choose to be gay??? Blow jobs haven't broken out in the streets because of gay marriage???

Gay marriage is now another canard that republicons throw out to their sheeple just like they do with abortion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 06/10/2008
- rextrek I'm a Fan of rextrek 34 fans permalink
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The one thing about gay couples is that when you meet a cpl who'sd been together for 10-20-30yrs of more...and think, WOW....No piece of paper ie: Marriage..­and yet they still stay together..­..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 06/10/2008
- psgoodguy I'm a Fan of psgoodguy 2 fans permalink

i'm in a same-sex relationship and, hopefully after november, we'll be able to marry here in california.

that being said, the best relationship advice i ever got was from my straight brother. he told me a relationship was a lot like a garden...i­t needed constant care and nurturing to bloom and grow.

i think of those words of advice nearly every day.

he also told me that in any problem or argument to assume that 51% of it is your fault and work it back from there.

that one is a little harder for me but it helps keep me from over reacting or becoming indignant, which is what i'm prone to do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 06/10/2008
- DMSmith I'm a Fan of DMSmith 17 fans permalink

For the record, you'll be able to marry in CA after the 16th of this month. What might change in November is that you might no longer be able to. Act now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 AM on 06/11/2008
- deedrdo I'm a Fan of deedrdo 6 fans permalink

i'm not going to get married when i know there is a chance it could be taken away from me.

i've waited 53 years for this day. 6 more months isn't going to make any difference.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 PM on 06/11/2008

Gay relationships have their own pitfalls--but there are advantages, especially being free of that tiring men vs. women duality. Change the channel already!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 06/10/2008

"Gay relationships have their own pitfalls--but there are advantages, especially being free of that tiring men vs. women duality."

Same sexes do have the decided advantage over our seemingly endless Battles Of The Sexes. Our one man (from Mars) and one woman (from Venus) marriages are (more often than not) worlds apart.

Stay safe, healthy and happy,
Love, Loretta

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 06/10/2008
- WoodyCPM I'm a Fan of WoodyCPM 77 fans permalink

It is also widely known among gays and lesbians that if their "lover" relationship ends, the relationship more often than not mutates into a mutually supportive friendship.

This article points up what many of the fear mongers most fear, that the queers yet again have something to teach the straights! First we invent theater, art, philosophy, poetry, romance, civilization, we teach them how to have sex, then we teach them how to stay married. What next? I hope we finally teach them how to have world peace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 06/10/2008
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