Flashback: McCain Praised Carter, Called Brzezinski An "Invaluable" Adviser

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First Posted: 06-11-08 12:50 PM   |   Updated: 06-19-08 05:12 AM

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During an interview with NBC's Brian Williams broadcast Monday night, Sen. John McCain hit on an idea: if he had to be tied to an unsuccessful president, so should Barack Obama.

Responding to a question about whether his candidacy would necessarily be damaged by the suffering Republican brand, McCain responded, "Sen. Obama says that I'm running for Bush's third term. It seems to me he's running for Jimmy Carter's second."

Then he laughed at his own joke.

But what's truly funny about McCain's "Obama equals Carter" line is that the Arizona Republican hasn't always been so down on the former president and his team of advisers. In a May 1999 interview with The Hill newspaper, on the occasion of his first presidential run, McCain was asked to opine on the recent occupants of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. In his written reply, McCain described Carter as having had "the greatest, the noblest and loftiest intentions of any president, but he never really understood how to use the institution to obtain his goals." In his brief response to the question, McCain also said that while the Iranian hostage crisis "brought him down and conveyed to the people he was a weak president. Whether he was or not, that's [debatable]."

Still, the new gambit lives on, with McCain repeating it on Wednesday during a CNBC interview. The line fits with the broader pattern of guilt-by-association that the Republican presidential nominee's team has been trying to make against Obama.

When Carter met with members of Hamas in May, McCain suggested Obama would have to distance himself the former president or be implicated in kind. (Even after Obama criticized Carter and reiterated his objections to Hamas, though, McCain still used Hamas's praise for Obama, since withdrawn, in a fundraising appeal.)

As a writer for the Israeli daily newspaper Ha'aretz editorialized in April:

"[McCain] wanted to say, here is an evil square: Iran-Hamas-Carter-Obama. He also meant: If Obama is like Carter, the weak loser, then McCain is like Reagan, his idol, and all that is left is to rerun the election results from 1980."

McCain's surrogates have also received the message loud and clear. Stu Sandler, deputy executive director of the Republican Jewish Coalition, told the National Journal that informal Obama adviser and former Carter Natoinal Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski could be used to stoke fears among voters for whom Israel's security is a top concern.

The only problem on this count is that Brzezinski was one of McCain's principal national security advisers during that inaugural 2000 run. Back when McCain was a fearless critic of dogmatic Republican thinking, he justified his hiring of Brzezinski as emblematic of his bipartisan streak. As the Tuscon Citizen reported in January 2000:

"McCain added more global and military experience to his campaign by naming a foreign policy team that includes advisers who have served under President Carter, a Democrat, as well as under Republicans Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan and George Bush, the father of his chief rival for the GOP nomination."

"I am honored that Zbigniew Brzezinski will join my foreign policy team," McCain said at that time. "As a former national security adviser and a highly respected foreign policy expert, his broad experience makes him an invaluable asset to my team." In describing his key advisers, McCain continued: "I am very honored to have the support and advice of these recognized experts whose years of service to our nation and experience in international affairs have earned them the well-deserved respect of all."

So is Obama's respect for Carter aides like Zbigniew Brzezinski "well-deserved" or a danger to the country? It all depends which John McCain you ask.

During an interview with NBC's Brian Williams broadcast Monday night, Sen. John McCain hit on an idea: if he had to be tied to an unsuccessful president, so should Barack Obama. Responding to a quest...
During an interview with NBC's Brian Williams broadcast Monday night, Sen. John McCain hit on an idea: if he had to be tied to an unsuccessful president, so should Barack Obama. Responding to a quest...
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President Carter was one a few US president who truly cared and still does for human rights. Others just talk about it. Carter is a man of action. Even at his present age.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 06/11/2008

I AGREE 100%!!

PLUS CARTER WAS A FAR BETTER PRESIDENT THAN BUSH!! BUSH HAS THE LOWES Approval Ratings Since They Began Polling in the 50s!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:21 PM on 06/11/2008
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To correct the historical record regarding the Presidency of Jimmy Carter. The conventional wisdom is that his presidency failed. He lost a landslide election to Ronald Reagan after one term; but inherited an economy not unlike the one we now experience. Gasoline shortages caused lines at the pump and inflation combined with the Ford recession to become the perfect storm called "stagflation".

What did the Carter Administration do? 1. Apointed Paul Volker as Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board. Volker plied the tools of Keynesian economics, tightening interest rates to strangle inflation. 2. Engaged the government in an effort to find alternative fuels. 3. Asked the public to sacrifice by cutting back on consumption -- reduced driving speeds to 55 mph and lowered thermostats to more conservative settings. 4. Worked to help family farmers survive a move away from an agrarian to an information society.

We suffered! But when Ronald Reagan took office he kept Volker, and reaped the benefits. Republicans claim the recovery resulted from tax cuts. Rather it was Voker's powerful grip on the economy that finally succeeded in ending the recession and curbing inflation.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/03042008/business/time_to_bring_paul_volcker_out_of_retire_100379.htm?page=2

Carter had his flaws: too close to the Shaw of Iran prior to the revolution and lacked military resolve in dealing with the hostage crisis that was its result. But with a second Carter term the results would have prevented the Reagan, and Bush recessions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 06/11/2008
- petey64 I'm a Fan of petey64 6 fans permalink

isn't that a new spin on history.......Carter's legacy is already out there, he's a good man but totally overwelmed by the job of being president and it showed, our hostages sat in Iran while he sat in the Rose Garden, he should have been bolder and pulled a bigger trigger on Iran. Why do you think they let the hostages out when Reagan got....because they knew exactly what was coming....someone that was decisive and aggresive and don't think for a moment the Russians didn't realize what was coming......Obama shares many of the same Carter traits, he's a decent man with lofty ideals but what you need to be a good president is a feared asshole.....McCain fits that bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 06/11/2008
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McCain may be on to something here. Carter continues to be one of the biggest liabilities to the party. He is typical of the antiquated balding grey beards that are typical of the worst misogamists of the Democratic Party, predating the Clinton Presidency. We will lose the Jewish vote and Reagan Democrats that had no name until Carter lost them to Reagan. His remarks about Hillary being the worse thing for the party simply confirms that he is exactly what we do not need to unite the party. He is becoming a senile old man who cannot deal with his past failures. I cannot believe we are sticking up for him. The worst President in history. At least for the next six months, if we can shut him up that is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 06/11/2008
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You are as wrong as wrong can be. President Carter broke a lot of ground while he was President. He got Israel and Egypt to make peace and there has not been a major Israeli-Arab war since then. He got the airline and trucking industries to deregulate and opened the door to more competition in both sectors of the economy. He made human rights an issue in our dealings with foreign nations.

He definitely wasn't perfect, but he was a man of peace and conviction and we were very lucky to have him as President during that time. I doubt if Ford would have been able to accomplish what Carter did.

I applaud him for taking on difficult issues and trying to find solutions. He may not be right. His actions may not achieve peace, but he's certainly doing a lot more than what our current President is doing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 06/11/2008
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Just wondering, if that plane and helicopter didn't run into each other in the dark during the Iranian rescue mission and the hostages had gotten out, would Carter be as disparged as he is? Would Reagan have been elected? Why did Reagan negotiate with the Iranians to keep the hostages until his inauguration?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 06/11/2008
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1975: Ford Administration Backs Iran’s Nuclear Plans

The administration of Gerald Ford produces a strategy paper commending Iran’s decision to develop a massive nuclear energy industry. The document cites Iran’s energy security as a prime reason for supporting the plan. Tehran needs to “prepare against the time—about 15 years in the future—when Iranian oil production is expected to decline sharply,” the paper says. The “introduction of nuclear power will both provide for the growing needs of Iran’s economy and free remaining oil reserves for export or conversion to petrochemicals.”

More: (not just Ford)
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=us_plans_to_use_military_force_against_iran

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 06/11/2008

Misogamist = hatred of marriage. Are you saying that Jimmy hates being married to Rosalynn? That would be news to most people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 06/11/2008

McCain is really getting more desparate as the election cycle proceeds. He can't escape the anchor around his leg that is the GOP and the Bush Administration's failed domestic and foreign policies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 PM on 06/11/2008
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McCain is saying Obama = Jimmy Carter not because Carter was a liberal, but because Carter has correctly challenged Israel's horrible record with respect to the Palestinians. Unlike most politicians who take waaaay too much money from Israel "support" groups to ever criticize Israel, Carter just says the truth. That's like throwing water on a Republican, or maybe like dropping a house on them. This is like McCain saying Obama is a Muslim, lookout for Hamas they're coming to get your kids.

And all his nauseating drooling over "Poor" Hillary, how he so loves her. I expect he'll be dumping Cindy and asking for Hillary's hand any day now the way he's been carrying on. So to speak.

He wants the Jewish Americans to not vote for Obama. And the older white women. Although, I can't imagine any woman voting for a guy who dumped his wife when she was injured, turned her in for a younger and prettier model. It's very obvious what he's doing. Let's just hope it doesn't work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 06/11/2008

regardless of political jockeying by both parties, Both Carter and Bush II have failed miserably as Presidents. Thats a fact supported by Carter's and Bushes in-the-toilet, low approval ratings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 06/11/2008

At his worst, Carter never sank as low in the polls as Bush.

Nor did he start a useless war to answer some unresolved psychic need, killing and maiming an untold number of American and Iraqis alike.

The only time both names should appear in the same sentence is when they are being contrasted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 06/11/2008
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McCain looked like a phony, old fool when he made that statement. He had a fake smile on his face and lit up like a Christmas tree. At least Jimmy Carter didn't reinvent who he was personally just to win the Presidency. Also, what have Bush/McCain done for the poor lately? Well, Jimmy Carter probably sleeps well every night. Get it, Johnny?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 06/11/2008

Once again McCain flip-flops.
McCain lies with such ease that one can not tell if McCain actually believes what he says, or if McCain has a brain disorder and is too incapacitated to know the difference.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 06/11/2008

Don't you wish somebody had a website where these were all logged on for a running tab?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 PM on 06/11/2008
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McCain a flip-flopper? More like a revolving door!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 06/11/2008
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I voted for Jimmy Carter twice and am proud of it. There's no doubt in my mind that his efforts to free the Iranian hostages were sabotaged by people working treasonously for Reagon hence the releasing of those hostages at the exact moment Reagon was sworn in and the consequent arms deal. President Carter brokered the Camp David Agreement that has kept the peace between Israel and Egypt for thirty years no small feat considering the neighborhood. He encouraged alternative energy use and delvelopment through tax breaks and grants. Just think what he might have done with another term. He adhered to the Constitution he was sworn to uphold, he didn't torture. In retirement he build houses for the poor, advocated human rights and democracy and oversaw elections. Tell me again, McInsane why anybody with a brain and a heart want to distance himself with Jimmy Carter's track record. Even in his advanced age I'd vote for him again. Moral integrity, what a concept.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 06/11/2008
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Gary Sick was the chief proponent of the October Surprise theory, but he had no solid evidence. Just circumstantial evidence involving Bill Casey and an Iranian official. Personally, I think the argument is strong, but there is no evidence in the public record. Maybe in the presidential libraries. Somewhere. Maybe some day the Iranians will either confirm or deny it for the historical record.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 06/11/2008
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McCain continues to prove who scary a McCain's presidency would be. If we though Bush's administration is isolating this country, McCain WILL put us in DANGER even from our friends.

We should, everyone regardless of party should think before buying into McCain smiles and so called straight talk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 06/11/2008
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"My friends", McCaln WANTS us to be talking about Carter as a distraction from talking about his closeness with Buush.

I like Carter but he is irrelevant in this race, a third term of Buush via McCaln is not. nOt slamming this thread since it further points out McCaln's hypocrisy, just suggesting that discussion about Carter is an off topic distraction McCaln wants.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 06/11/2008
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Not to further make disparaging remarks about Hillary - I find myself unable to resist.

I feel this is very telling as to the high regard Senator Clinton holds Senator McCain. Their methodology has three very fundamental similarities.

1. They both are very bad at details of their own words or deeds.

2. They both draw particularly complicated and obscure analogies that are usually abandoned before the next news cycle.

3. The most powerful weapon to use against them is their own words, for it is almost guaranteed, that in their quest for public approval, they will have certainly contradicted themselves on any particular subject.

3 reasons for NO Town Halls with McCain !!!!

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 06/11/2008
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I am thoroughly convinced that Ronald Reagan's election team already promised Iran arms for hostages, even before he was elected. There is no way those hostages would have been released without prior promises of cooperation, if Reagan was elected. This is what brought down Jimmy Carter. They have been honing their skills ever since - steal any election you can, no matter what the cost to the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 06/11/2008

so, you are saying Reagan did what carter couldn't? that's your point right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 06/11/2008
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All of this is hogwash. Carter negotiated the release of the hostages up to the final second of his term. Carter DID get the hostages out. Reagan was being inaugurated when it happened, unless Reagan could be in two places at once? Was that Bonzo taking the oath or the genuine article? We may never know.

SOT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 06/11/2008

You do not have to convince yourself any more. It is all documented. An agreement between the two parties was also signed. One major item in the agreement was that US would never interfere politically or militarily in Iran’s affair. Knowing that, Bush still often refers to “military option is still on the table”! So much for honoring past presidents commitments.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 06/11/2008

Flip-flopping on complements = phoney.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 06/11/2008
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IF there was any body close to a real christian politician. Jimmy was light years ahead of all others then and is even closer now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 06/11/2008
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