McCain Iraq Comments: Bringing Troops Home From Iraq "Not Too Important" (VIDEO)

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First Posted: 06-11-08 09:24 AM   |   Updated: 07-26-08 04:06 PM

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Sen. John McCain appeared on the Today Show this morning and continued to promote his idea of a long occupation in Iraq. But whatever merits there may be for his message, his delivery is once again promising to get him into trouble.

When asked if he knew when American troops could start to return home, McCain responded:

"No, but that's not too important. What's important is the casualties in Iraq."

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UPDATE: Sen. Majority Leader Harry Reid has responded:

"McCain's statement today that withdrawing troops doesn't matter is a crystal clear indicator that he just doesn't get the grave national-security consequences of staying the course - Osama bin Laden is freely plotting attacks, our efforts in Afghanistan are undermanned, and our military readiness has been dangerously diminished. We need a smart change in strategy to make America more secure, not a commitment to indefinitely keep our troops in an intractable civil war."

UPDATE (11:00 AM): The responses are coming fast and furious from both parties, as the McCain hits back for his comments this morning:

McCain camp:

Sen. McCain has consistently opposed a timeline for withdrawing our troops from Iraq. And our friends on the opposite side of the aisle have a long history of attempting to twist Sen. McCain's words on Iraq. The fact that Sen. McCain opposes a timeline for withdrawal and is principally concerned about the safety of American troops and the security of Iraq is pretty much "dog bites man."

Meanwhile, the Dems are beginning to pile on. Here's Biden's response:

"Senator McCain's comment is evidence that he is totally out of touch with the needs of our troops and the national security needs of our nation. I think many of our brave soldiers and their families would disagree that it's 'not too important' when they come home.
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UPDATE: Via HuffPost's Sam Stein, Sen. John Kerry ripped into McCain over the remarks:

Sensing political blood, Democrats pounded on John McCain, for saying that it was "not too important" when American forces were drawn down provided that casualty levels were acceptably low.


Perhaps the most pointed criticism, ironically, came from Sen. John Kerry -- no stranger to having Iraq comments be used against him in a political election context. Taking to a conference call with aides to Sen. Barack Obama, the 2004 Democratic nominee accused McCain of being "unbelievably out of touch," lacking a general understanding, and was having a "debate with himself" over the issue of Iraq. The alleged flip-flopper was now doing the alleging.

"The job of the Commander in Chief is to understand the fundamentals of the conflict in which you have the troops engaged. And it is becoming crystal clear that John McCain doesn't understand it," said Kerry. "This is an enormous flaw on his candidacy, which is supposedly hung on his ability to serve as commander in chief... There are series of contradictions in his statements that reflect a fundamental misunderstands of the conflict."

As evidence, Kerry ushered in McCain's misstatements on the historical conflict between Sunni and Shiites, his falsehood that Iran was arming al-Qaeda in Iraq (they're not), and the varying times in which the Arizona Republican has said he was against a South Korea style model of troop presence in the Middle East, something he now favors.

"This is not a small matter as far as I am concerned. And I think John McCain is offering a recipe to keep the military overextended," he said. "And our attention diverted from the real center of the war on terror which is Afghanistan and Pakistan."

As the conference call proceeded, the McCain campaign sought to stem the damage of the remark. In an email response to reporters, spokesman Tucker Bounds accused Obama of trying to hide his own "willingness to disregard facts on the ground," and insisted that "John McCain has always said, that [troop drawdown] is not as important as conditions on the ground and the recommendations of commanders in the field."

This, however, came only weeks after the McCain campaign had released an advertisement explicitly suggesting that violence in the country would be ebbed by 2013 - a clear indication that timetables were, in fact, important.

"He threw out 2013 as the date for American forces to be out of Iraq," said Susan Rice, Obama's foreign policy adviser. "And today he says he has no idea."

UPDATE (12:00): Another statement from the McCain camp, this one targeting Obama:

"The Obama campaign is embarking on a false attack on John McCain to hide their own candidate's willingness to disregard facts on the ground in pursuit of withdrawal no matter what the costs. John McCain was asked if he had a 'better estimate' for a timeline for withdrawal. As John McCain has always said, that is not as important as conditions on the ground and the recommendations of commanders in the field. Any reasonable person who reads the full transcript would see this and reject the Obama campaign's attempt to manipulate, twist and distort the truth."
*** UPDATES BELOW *** Sen. John McCain appeared on the Today Show this morning and continued to promote his idea of a long occupation in Iraq. But whatever merits there may be for his message, his d...
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i hope millitary familys heard what he said but what stuns me is they support the guy in some sort of misguided attempt of patriotism so i some times wonder why i care about the well being of them if they support the mission that is going to ruin their lives yet they just seem to blindly follow along saying that they support the troops so im hestiant to say they might deserve the fate of their loved ones for blind support

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 06/11/2008
- TrueIndy08 I'm a Fan of TrueIndy08 31 fans permalink

please stop with the stereotypi­ng.... you can say some, or most, but don't they.... bc this military wife heard exactly what he had to say... I am also aware that he did not support the bipartisan GI BILL... so no, this old lunatic is not getting this military families vote!!!!

My husband, serving a 3rd term in Iraq does not support him either... so there, now you know of a military who doesn't try to display some "misguided attempt at patriotism"///

You shouldn't put your foot in your mouth.... Makes you sound like the old man!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 PM on 06/11/2008

But u know what im talking about all those young wifes with infants who have EVERYTHING to lose in every peice of footage ive ever seen never a voice of concern about the mission or the lengthof the mission or the purpose or anything I commend the support of the men but if u and the rest r not willing to voice concern or dissent as the family what credibility do any of us have to ask the troops to come home the GOP calls us cut n runners Nazi fascist they say i talk to the familys and they support the mission what chance do we have to stop them if the familys wont stan up because once they do we will stand with them im glad u have stood up but ur dear husband is still fighting for a lie and for that i am sorry

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 06/11/2008
- glaze I'm a Fan of glaze 6 fans permalink

Excellent response!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 06/11/2008

I support the troops too, but I will also support Obama when he pulls them out. Supporting the troops has nothing to do with supporting the war, in my view. The troops are doing what is asked and required of them as military personnell, they did not lead themselves into this debackle, it was their president.

So I hope you did not mean exactly what you said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 06/11/2008
- suzyhein I'm a Fan of suzyhein 63 fans permalink
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Let's unravel this thing. If we are going to have a military then we should expect them to serve in wars, right? it's this war we are having a problem with. because of the way we got into it? when is the war just? when is it okay to have troops in harms way? and do we or should we distinguish between enlisted people, career people, and reserves?It is all confusing to me. i personally wish the military had no reason to exist and im not sure it does. hmmmmm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 06/11/2008
- suzyhein I'm a Fan of suzyhein 63 fans permalink
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ignore that. i reposted as it's own post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 06/11/2008
- bwither I'm a Fan of bwither 54 fans permalink
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How about this for facts on the ground. . . The Iraqi Parliament will not sign off on any new security agreements until there is a substantial troop withdrawal, and are wiling to wait for a new president to take over if that's what it takes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 06/11/2008
- realistxxx I'm a Fan of realistxxx 3 fans permalink

McClone is just delivering the Neocon agenda. Permanent bases in Iraq is the goal. Therefore, it is actually very important to Neocons if American trrops withdrawal. He's lying by saying that's not important. It is critical for the Neocon vision that we stay there for 100 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 06/11/2008
- rooks I'm a Fan of rooks 32 fans permalink
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McClone, that's good. New one for me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 06/11/2008
- jdfast I'm a Fan of jdfast 3 fans permalink
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The neocon vision of the US as world rulers and big oil is willing to use our troops to protect the oil infrastructure so that they can make money. Gee, I think that its working.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 PM on 06/11/2008
- TrueIndy08 I'm a Fan of TrueIndy08 31 fans permalink

oh.. u haven't seen the pristine new US Embassy they have built over there... with the shopping malls, and condos....

I'm not kidding!!! Look it up... it was a plan all along to leave permanent bases over there....

Who in their right mind would want to be stationed there having to deal with RPGs, car bombs, and suicide bombers everyday????

This old man is a political nightmare

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 06/11/2008
- TrueIndy08 I'm a Fan of TrueIndy08 31 fans permalink

Fight this old lunatic with $$$$!

We all know he can't raise the money that Obama can... his own people don't want him, they definitely don't want to send him their hard earned money!!!

I will just keep sending money every month to the DNC and to Obama's campaign! If he has tons and tons of money, he can run every ad known to man, while the old man is trying to count pennies to go against him...

SEND MONEY FOLKS

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 06/11/2008

McStalemate

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 06/11/2008

Tell that to the national guard troops that did NOT sign on to have a permanent presence in Iraq. They've lost jobs, businesses, marriages, limbs. One weekend a month...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 06/11/2008
- TrueIndy08 I'm a Fan of TrueIndy08 31 fans permalink

yeah, the National Guard.... those people who are supposed to be here at home making sure they can protect us.... yeah, I'm sure they didn't sign up for a permanent presence in Iraq!!!!


GOP SUCKS

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 06/11/2008
- donkat I'm a Fan of donkat 2 fans permalink

He's losing it! Really losing it. It's mean, but I am enjoying his every gaffe. I'm waiting for him to explode!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 06/11/2008

Sounds like our troups are going to be SQUATTERS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 06/11/2008

That worked so well for the Brits when they were in Iraq...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 06/11/2008

Sounds like people in the service are in a relocation program/plan!

Questions will they get a duel citizenship, and or get taxed twice as part of the GI Bill from McDontCare?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 06/11/2008
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Even giving McCain the benefit of every doubt and fullest, most generous interpretation of his remarks, and granting that he means if the situation is like Korea and Japan without American casualties, even giving him all that, for the sake of argument, there's still an issue.

The basic question is, when does the peaceful occupation start? How many years and how many casualties must there be before his hundred peaceful years start? How many billions must be spent before it's even close to a break even deal? His argument might just possibly have some merit (ignoring a few other problems with it) if the situation was peaceful and stable now, but it isn't. His premise glosses over that little detail and nobody seems to want to mention it to him. Hello? Are there any journalists out there?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 06/11/2008
- SaulGood I'm a Fan of SaulGood 33 fans permalink

aren't we, in fact, fighting those we promised liberation to?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 06/11/2008
- TrueIndy08 I'm a Fan of TrueIndy08 31 fans permalink

yeah... but since he doesn't know the difference between a Sunni and a Shiite.... we can't possibly expect old McWarmonger to understand

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 06/11/2008
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Seems that way to me. I'm curious to see what's going to happen if the Iraqis make an official statement that they want Americans out. There must be someone in some little office in Washington who's trying to come up with a way to spin even that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 06/11/2008

Perhaps it's "liberation" in a Gnostic sense: liberation from this material prison.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 06/11/2008

Thanks for pointing out the real issue with McCain's statement, beyond the inherently dishonest tactic of hammering on those infamous three words. The statement, taken in context as a whole, demonstrates McCain's complete lack of military and political competence far better than any soundbite distortion.

"The key to it is we don't want any more Americans in harm's way, and that way they'll be safe, and serve our country, and come home with honor and victory." That's not coherent even without comparing it to contradictory facts on the ground: is he claiming that they'll be safe and victorious because we want them to be? Someone's been reading The Secret!

http://nelsonleith.com/cblog/archives/620-Dishonest-And-Dumb-McCain-and-Democrats-on-Iraq.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 06/11/2008
- glaze I'm a Fan of glaze 6 fans permalink

"...and granting that he means if the situation is like Korea... without American casualties­,..."
Just a side point: In '67 and '68 I was a medic in Korea, stationed about 5 miles from the Z. Some of our guys volunteered to be "Imjim Scouts", named after a river near the south Korean fence. After serving a brief hitch, one of the guys came back and told us how (even though there wasn't supposed to be anybody between our side of the fence and the one and a quarter miles to the other fence on the North Korean side,) someone managed to roll a hand grenade under the jeep he was driving. He got off lucky, maybe 2 weeks in the hospital and then home. The lieutenant he was driving for was killed. Other Scouts told us that there was a fire fight every night, and they wondered why no one back home ever heard about it. This was more than 15 years after the cease-fire. I wonder if this is still happening, 40 years later. In other words, are there still American casualties from this 'situation'?
I certainly don't blame Senator McCain for this. I certainly won't vote for him either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 06/11/2008
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So even that example is not what it seems. I'm actually a little surprised, because as you say, no one heard many or maybe, in fact, any of these stories. We really do need a few more people out there in the media to start practicing journalism. I wonder if that's too much to ask

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 06/11/2008
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The only reason Irag has not exploded already, is because they are waiting for the election results. If McCain finds away to get into the WH, all hell will break loose. But how do we know whats really going on over there. After all, the same complicit MSM is telling us so? McCain is insane.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 06/11/2008

McCain supports the failed surge but not the GI bill. McCain abandoned his first wife now he has abandoned the troops.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 06/11/2008

As Rachel Maddow pointed out today on MSNBC, he even abandoned himself from August last year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 06/11/2008
- macbabe I'm a Fan of macbabe 107 fans permalink
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are we seeing a pattern here? ... think so!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 06/11/2008

Voting for John McCain...n­ot too important.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 06/11/2008
- TrueIndy08 I'm a Fan of TrueIndy08 31 fans permalink

Voting against John McCain... VERY VERY IMPORTANT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 06/11/2008
- SaulGood I'm a Fan of SaulGood 33 fans permalink

true dat!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 06/11/2008
- BWonka I'm a Fan of BWonka 118 fans permalink
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Everytime he opens his mouth another ReThuglican changes parties.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 06/11/2008

With a flip and a flop, he'll probably say he never said that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 06/11/2008
- BWonka I'm a Fan of BWonka 118 fans permalink
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He already forgot what he said....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 06/11/2008
- SaulGood I'm a Fan of SaulGood 33 fans permalink

actually he said it was all obama's fault. lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 06/11/2008
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It is not "fine" that we have troops all over the world. We need to get our people home and use our resources to build a life for our citizens. Listening to McCain is like listening to someone that just heard something on Limbaugh or Hannity. The guy has nob clue about what is going on. He has not had an original thought for decades.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 06/11/2008
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And republican pundidts claim that this dunderhead would excel at 'town hall style' debates.
In the words of G-Dubya; "Bring it on".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 06/11/2008
- dartagnan I'm a Fan of dartagnan 50 fans permalink
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Without a functioning brain he can't excel at anything. But we must allow the Repubs a few straws to grasp at.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 06/11/2008
- BWonka I'm a Fan of BWonka 118 fans permalink
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What a pathetic excuse for a "leader". His ineptitude would be mind boggling were it not for the current failure in the White House.

And, of course, he still won't back the 2008 G.I. Bill - because he DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE TROOPS. Typical rethuglican loser.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 06/11/2008
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"And, of course, he still won't back the 2008 G.I. Bill"

And with what stunning logic!!!!! We can't "give" the troops a decent set of benefits because they might actually use them!

Someone, please... bring this sorry old man in from the rain. He's yelling at the clouds, again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 06/11/2008
- TrueIndy08 I'm a Fan of TrueIndy08 31 fans permalink

yeah.. and some dumb blogger told me that he was just making sure that the old man just wants to keep troops levels up while we are at war... that by providing them the extra benefits, they will leave during war time...

FYI: they are leaving during war time, because of the war!!!!!

Some people are just Neocon trolls

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 06/11/2008
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