Black Conservatives Conflicted On Obama Campaign

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FREDERIC J. FROMMER | 06/14/08 07:18 PM | AP

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In this Aug. 1, 2000, file photo conservative commentator Armstrong Williams is seen at the First Union Center, site of the Republican National Convention, in Philadelphia. Williams has never voted for a Democrat for president, but he said that could change this year with Barack Obama as the party's nominee. "I don't necessarily like his policies, I don't like much that he advocates, but for the first time in my life, history thrusts me to really seriously think about it," he says. (AP Photo/William Wilson Lewis III, File)

WASHINGTON — Black conservative talk show host Armstrong Williams has never voted for a Democrat for president. That could change this year with Barack Obama as the Democratic Party's nominee.

"I don't necessarily like his policies; I don't like much that he advocates, but for the first time in my life, history thrusts me to really seriously think about it," Williams said. "I can honestly say I have no idea who I'm going to pull that lever for in November. And to me, that's incredible."

Just as Obama has touched black Democratic voters, he has engendered conflicting emotions among black Republicans. They revel over the possibility of a black president but wrestle with the thought that the Illinois senator doesn't sit beside them ideologically.

"Among black conservatives," Williams said, "they tell me privately, it would be very hard to vote against him in November."

Perhaps sensing the possibility of such a shift, Republican presidential candidate John McCain has made some efforts to lure black voters. He recently told Essence magazine that he would attend the NAACP's annual convention next month, and he noted that he recently traveled to Selma, Ala., scene of seminal voting rights protests in the 1960s, and "talked about the need to include 'forgotten Americans.'"

Still, the Arizona senator has a tall order in winning black votes, no doubt made taller by running against a black opponent. In 2004, blacks chose Democrat John Kerry over President Bush by an 88 percent to 11 percent margin, according to exit polls.

J.C. Watts, a former Oklahoma congressman who once was part of the GOP House leadership, said he's thinking of voting for Obama. Watts said he's still a Republican, but he criticizes his party for neglecting the black community. Black Republicans, he said, have to concede that while they might not agree with Democrats on issues, at least that party reaches out to them.

"And Obama highlights that even more," Watts said, adding that he expects Obama to take on issues such as poverty and urban policy. "Republicans often seem indifferent to those things."

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Likewise, retired Gen. Colin Powell, who became the country's first black secretary of state under President George W. Bush, said both candidates are qualified and that he will not necessarily vote for the Republican.

"I will vote for the individual I think that brings the best set of tools to the problems of 21st-century America and the 21st-century world regardless of party, regardless of anything else other than the most qualified candidate," Powell said Thursday in Vancouver in comments reported by The Globe and Mail in Toronto.

Writer and actor Joseph C. Phillips got so excited about Obama earlier this year that he started calling himself an "Obamacan" _ Obama Republican. Phillips, who appeared on "The Cosby Show" as Denise Huxtable's husband, Navy Lt. Martin Kendall, said he has wavered since, but he is still thinking about voting for Obama.

"I am wondering if this is the time where we get over the hump, where an Obama victory will finally, at long last, move us beyond some of the old conversations about race," Phillips said. "That possibly, just possibly, this great country can finally be forgiven for its original sin, or find some absolution."

Yet Phillips, author of the book "He Talk Like a White Boy," realizes the irony of voting for a candidate based on race to get beyond race.

"We have to not judge him based on his race, but on his desirability as a political candidate," he said. "And based on that, I have a lot of disagreements with him on a lot of issues. I go back and forth."

Michael Steele, the Republican former lieutenant governor of Maryland who lost a Senate race there in 2006, said he is proud of Obama as a black man, but that "come November, I will do everything in my power to defeat him." Electing Obama, he said, would not automatically solve the woes of the black community.

"I think people who try to put this sort of messianic mantle on Barack's nomination are a little bit misguided," he said.

John McWhorter, a self-described political moderate who is a senior fellow at the conservative Manhattan Institute and a New York Sun columnist, said Obama's Democratic Party victory "proves that while there still is some racism in the United States, there is not enough to matter in any serious manner. This is a watershed moment."

"Obama is probably more to the left than I would prefer on a lot of issues," he adds. "But this issue of getting past race for real is such a wedge issue for me. And he is so intelligent, and I think he would be a perfectly competent president, that I'm for him. I want him to get in because, in a way, it will put me out of a job."

James T. Harris, a Milwaukee radio talk show host and public speaker, said he opposes Obama "with love in my heart."

"We are of the same generation. He's African American and I'm an American of African descent. We both have lovely wives and beautiful children," Harris said. "Other than that, we've got nothing in common. I hope he loses every state."

Moderate Republican Edward Brooke, who blazed his own trail in Massachusetts in 1966 as the first black popularly elected U.S. senator, said he is "extremely proud and confident and joyful" to see Obama ascend. Obama sent Brooke a signed copy of his book, inscribed, "Thank you for paving the way," and Brooke sent his own signed book to Obama, calling the presumed Democratic nominee "a worthy bearer of the torch."

Brooke, who now lives in Florida, won't say which candidate will get his endorsement, but he does say that race won't be a factor in his decision.

"This is the most important election in our history," Brooke said. "And with the world in the condition that it is, I think we've got to get the best person we can get."

Williams, the commentator, says his 82-year-old mother, who also hasn't voted for a Democratic presidential candidate, has already made up her mind.

"She is so proud of Senator Barack Obama, and she has made it clear to all of us that she's voting for him in November," Williams relates. "That is historic. Every time I call her, she asks, 'How's Obama doing?' They feel as if they are a part of this. Because she said, given the history of this country, she never thought she'd ever live to see this moment."

WASHINGTON — Black conservative talk show host Armstrong Williams has never voted for a Democrat for president. That could change this year with Barack Obama as the Democratic Party's nominee. ...
WASHINGTON — Black conservative talk show host Armstrong Williams has never voted for a Democrat for president. That could change this year with Barack Obama as the Democratic Party's nominee. ...
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- mom2sons I'm a Fan of mom2sons 5 fans permalink

They are only in it for themselves. What did JC Watts do for the black community as a Rethuglican? NADA. They better know, we are taking names too! Yes, some blacks are jealous, too freakin bad. Either get on board or stay rethuglican.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 AM on 06/16/2008
- donkat I'm a Fan of donkat 2 fans permalink

Okay, I just have to say this, as an Asian American woman I have never understood Asian American Repubs, nor do I get Black Repubs. I don't see how any minority person would find that party and their policies attractive. I just don't get it. (scratching head...)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 06/15/2008
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I can understand the more wealthy minorities voting Republican but like you, donkat, I never understood it myself. I use to wonder if African Americans voting Republican was a way of paying tribute to Lincoln for his stance on slavery but really the Republican Party of today is nothing like it was over a 100 years ago.

I would like very much to know a minorities reasons for voting Republican it certainly can't be for social reasons would someone enlighten us?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 AM on 06/16/2008
- rowzeer I'm a Fan of rowzeer 11 fans permalink

The same can be said about poor whites...I never understood there loyalty to the Republican party. The Democrats lost them over civil rights, but I can't believe they still think civil rights are a bad thing. Nothing a white man with a nickel hates more than a black man with a dime. Don't they understand that education and social justices helps ALL people

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 AM on 06/16/2008
- GrainOSand I'm a Fan of GrainOSand 269 fans permalink
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The most important thing to take away from this entire story is found in the title of the piece, "Black Conservatives Conflicted" or better still "are Conflicted".

If you disavow me Monday thru Saturday, Sunday becomes a foregone conclusion. If you minimize me 364 days a year, on the 365th day I am expecting no change. An epiphany is a deep concept. One can be going along and then all of a sudden -- BAM -- clairvoyance! Where I was blind, I now see. Is that a fact…really…do you see?

A Black Conservative who says that a liberal agenda that seeks to help poor people (of any color), fund better education opportunities and strategies, enact programs to address gang violence and an alarming incarceration rate, promote national unity, address historical wrongdoing that comes to bear on families living, breathing, and dying today, is an agenda of welfare, or an agenda of “BIG GOVERNMENT”.

A black conservative, who hugs the conservative notion of, you are your own -- cloaked as self-determination spittle, and personal responsibility smoke and mirrors, now seeks to step up and embrace the idea that indeed a brown-skinned candidate for president is something unimaginable, incalculable, and compelling.

Hmmm?

Basil Rathbone played the character Sherlock Holmes. The sudden epiphanies of those previously conflicted leave me to wonder if expressed epiphany is but a meager ploy to actualize some dastardly scheme of conflict. How do I get to this conclusion? Elementary, my dear Watson! Conflicted today, conflicted tomorrow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 06/15/2008
- XME I'm a Fan of XME 26 fans permalink
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What's sad is that these people are being viewed by THEIR skin color (granted, they are doing this to themselves).

There are many Republicans this year who have decided to vote for Obama, and that has nothing to do with his skin color...it has to do with his politics, and with their dissatisfaction with their own candidate. Who can blame them?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 06/15/2008
- tbone99 I'm a Fan of tbone99 88 fans permalink

Yeah well, if I hear Clarence Thomas say he's voting for him .....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 06/15/2008
- GrainOSand I'm a Fan of GrainOSand 269 fans permalink
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I would not tax my ears waiting on that. He recently released a book where based on his interviews promoting the book, it seems he is still denying he was wrong in 91. He is still attempting to defame Anita Hill as an irrelevant, incompetent, bitter woman with an axe to grind. He is still defending his lapdog status. As a human being, I have nothing but love and hope that all is well for Clarence Thomas. As a public figure, he is an example of everything I would not want to be, and that is saying something because there can be no doubt he is accomplished, yet on my scale, his accomplishments diminish in comparison to the weight of his belly flop into the pool of me-ism that is sell-out-ism by another name. Clarence Thomas is the antithesis of courage and fortitude for he marginalized the lives of many to push his own selfish agenda. That is considered a yella’ [sic] belly in some parts -- it is not a compliment, it is not flattering. Anita Hill was incompetent my eye. She was competent enough to have the courage to say publicly that she rebuffed his wayward and perverse advances of disrespect emanating from a lustful and conflicted heart. Clarence wanted to get his freak on, and Anita said no thanks.

Now as for all of that strict constructionist boo-boo that he spews -- look at the time, gotta fly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 06/15/2008
- realtalk I'm a Fan of realtalk 13 fans permalink

Bottom line, is people want tax cuts, all people, blacks, and whites both, and Obama is the only one who will provide tax cuts for EVERYONE earning under $200,000 dollars.

And some blacks will vote for Obama because of his color, BUT the majority of black republicans, who are mostly republicans because of the pro-life issue, will not be voting for Obama, because of the pro-life issue. They don't care about Obama's color, they care about that issue, and that issue alone!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 06/15/2008
- edwcorey I'm a Fan of edwcorey 18 fans permalink

"J.C. Watts, a former Oklahoma congressman who once was part of the GOP House leadership, said he's thinking of voting for Obama. Watts said he's still a Republican, but he criticizes his party for neglecting the black community. Black Republicans, he said, have to concede that while they might not agree with Democrats on issues, at least that party reaches out to them.

So what the hell was he a Republican for? This is why I have rejected professional sports: Watts, Largent, Bunning, Swann--they're all Republicans. They go with the money, rejecting the fact that they were once slaves to the team owners and only got rich after they UNIONIZED.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 06/15/2008
- Yohomegirl I'm a Fan of Yohomegirl 15 fans permalink
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I went to Louisville campaigning for Obama with a guy (I didn't know him, I was just volunteering) who was scared shitless when we stopped for gas in a black neighborhood!? See, even racists will vote for him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 AM on 06/15/2008
- XME I'm a Fan of XME 26 fans permalink
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I think that's a very loose use of the term racists, which has become all too common during this election.

Just being afraid in a "black neighborhood" doesn't make someone a racist. HATING all black people, just because they're black, makes someone a racists. This person would probably be just as afraid in a poor white neighborhood.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 06/15/2008
- conniedogs I'm a Fan of conniedogs 13 fans permalink

There are AA who are afraid to stop in an all black neighborhood.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 06/15/2008
- Cyclone I'm a Fan of Cyclone 8 fans permalink

Can anyone posting here tell me if the Republican Party has any Black candidates running for anything in 2008?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 06/14/2008
- BigBen I'm a Fan of BigBen 4 fans permalink

Could we just leave color out of this election. I am tired of those who portray black people as a flock of sheep who vote for a candidate because of their color.Black people voted for Obama because they preferred his position on health care,education, and social security, to Clintons.There may be a few black people who voted for Obama because his father was from Kenya but most black people in America have parents who were born here.The number of black people who's father is from Kenya would not explain the overwhelming support Obama got from black people especially those with a white mother.So if we look at non white people who have a white mother we will find that their votes were cast based on the politics at issue just as were the votes of black people with black mothers.Also Hillary Clinton had a white mother just like Barack but white people voted based on their preference for her policies not based on her white mother.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 06/15/2008
- WasteNJ I'm a Fan of WasteNJ 26 fans permalink
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Alan Keyes was in the GOP primary, dunno for how long. Even the GOP didn't care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 06/15/2008
- conniedogs I'm a Fan of conniedogs 13 fans permalink

LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 06/15/2008
- the964kid I'm a Fan of the964kid 61 fans permalink
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Good thing there's only like 9-10 black conservatives in the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 06/14/2008
- WasteNJ I'm a Fan of WasteNJ 26 fans permalink
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That's generous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 06/15/2008

James T. Harris, a Milwaukee radio talk show host and public speaker, said he opposes Obama "with love in my heart."

"We are of the same generation. He's African American and I'm an American of African descent. We both have lovely wives and beautiful children," Harris said. "Other than that, we've got nothing in common. I hope he loses every state."

Well, it's nice to see that some African-American's still enjoy the plantation. Me, on the other hand, can see the North Star and I'm moving on. I'm voting America first! Obama 08 & 12

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 06/14/2008
- KBAR I'm a Fan of KBAR 28 fans permalink
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Obama 08 & 12

He'll lose both.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 06/14/2008

Boy, that discourages all. Up until you stated the truth so clearly we believed our lying eyes and ears and thought he was going to win.

But seriously, have you thought of getting a hobby. Maybe collecting shiney objects.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 06/14/2008
- iswideopen I'm a Fan of iswideopen 59 fans permalink

Tell McBush to stay the hell away from the NAACP the same way he and George W. Bush stayed away from Hurricane Katrina; we have the pictures of them eating cake and celebrating using the excuse the plane couldn't land; a Karl Rove special. Send all these thugs to jail. They have stolen and given away America in one felt swoop. We hate war, you are warmongerers. We are broke, you say give the cuts to the rich, we have no gas, no jobs, no healthcare, and you say you will go after Hillary voters and Black voters. You are more senile than I thought; time to wake up from your nap now, McBush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 06/14/2008

"Let them eat cake!"
-Queen Marie-Antoinette

I believe they beheaded her. Just a thought!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 06/14/2008

HEAR HEAR! Well said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 06/14/2008

Even though McCain is a Republican, he has never; at least not to my knowledge, been a separatist. I think he will go to the meeting, make carefully worded speech, shake hands and then leave. He gets an A+ for showing up. especially in this day and age when even black Republicans avoid the venue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 06/15/2008

Barack should tell these men to vote politics and not their skintone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 06/14/2008
- acanthus I'm a Fan of acanthus 5 fans permalink

Well, I don't know why it should be his responsibility to tell them not to vote for him, but I agree that they shouldn't. There's no way I would vote for Obama if I was a conservative, and there's no way I would vote for him if he was a conservative.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 06/15/2008
- trinity I'm a Fan of trinity 9 fans permalink

Well after Colin Powell was hung out to dry by the current administration, over going to war with Iraq, I can understand why he would not want to support that party again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 06/14/2008

OK, you named 5 black Conservatives voting for Barack, got any more?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 06/14/2008

There are no more Black conservatives. That's it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 06/14/2008

Sure would be funny if Condi came out. If Clarence Thomas declares for Obama I will drive his car and cut his grass and shine his shoes and let him call me boy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 06/14/2008
- conniedogs I'm a Fan of conniedogs 13 fans permalink

I believe Condi is going to vote for Barack. She'll never say it publicly, but once she's behind that curtain.......it's Obama all the way!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 06/15/2008
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