Afghan President Karzai Threatens To Send Troops Into Pakistan

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JASON STRAZIUSO | June 15, 2008 02:44 PM EST | AP

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Afghan President Hamid Karzai gestures during a press conference at the presidential palace in Kabul, Afghanistan, Sunday, June 15, 2008. Karzai has issued a forceful warning to militants in Pakistan, saying he will send Afghan troops across the border to combat Taliban insurgents. (AP Photo/Rahmat Gul)

KABUL, Afghanistan — Afghan President Hamid Karzai threatened Sunday to send Afghan troops after notorious Taliban leaders inside Pakistan in an angry warning to his eastern neighbor that he will no longer tolerate cross-border attacks.

The threat _ the first time Karzai has said he would send forces into Pakistan _ comes only days after a sophisticated Taliban assault on Kandahar's prison freed 870 prisoners, and six weeks after Karzai survived his fourth assassination attempt.

Karzai has long pleaded with Pakistan and the international community to confront tribal area safe havens, and U.S. officials have increased their warnings in recent weeks that the sanctuaries in Pakistan must be dealt with.

Last week, U.S. aircraft dropped bombs along the Afghan-Pakistan border, an incident the Pakistan army said killed 11 of its paramilitary forces. The exchange ratcheted up increasingly touchy relations among the U.S., Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Pakistan said the Afghan army had set up a military post on the border and that the Afghans were attacked by militants after agreeing to pull back, sparking the battle. No Afghan officials ever confirmed Pakistan's version.

Analysts said they doubt military action by Afghanistan is imminent, but Pakistan's prime minister said the threat "will not be taken well." A Taliban spokesman warned that the Afghan army would be defeated by thousands of armed tribesmen.

Speaking on the grounds of his fortified presidential palace, Karzai told a news conference that Afghanistan has the right to self defense, and because militants cross over from Pakistan "to come and kill Afghan and kill coalition troops, it exactly gives us the right to do the same."

Then, Karzai warned Pakistan-based Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud that Afghan forces would target him on his home turf. Mehsud has been accused in last year's assassination of former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto.

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"Baitullah Mehsud should know that we will go after him now and hit him in his house," Karzai said.

"And the other fellow, (Taliban leader) Mullah Omar of Pakistan, should know the same," Karzai continued. "This is a two-way road in this case, and Afghans are good at the two-way road journey. We will complete the journey and we will get them and we will defeat them. We will avenge all that they have done to Afghanistan for the past so many years."

In Pakistan, Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani said his country is a sovereign state that wants good relations with its neighbors. But he said the Afghan-Pakistan border is too long to prevent people from crossing, "even if Pakistan puts its entire army along the border."

"Neither do we interfere in anyone else's matters, nor will we allow anyone to interfere in our territorial limits and our affairs," Gilani told The Associated Press. "We want a stable Afghanistan. It is in our interest. How can we go to destabilize our brotherly country? Such kind of statements will not be taken well by the people of both countries."

A spokesman for NATO's International Security Assistance Force said he would not comment. But another ISAF official said he thought Karzai's comments should be seen as a reflection of frustration with militant safe havens but not as a sign an attack is imminent. He asked not to be identified because he wasn't authorized to speak on the topic publicly.

The U.S. has spent more than $3 billion the last two years training and equipping the army, and Karzai's comments raise the specter a U.S.-trained Afghan military could be used to attack Pakistan. The ISAF official dismissed that idea.

Talat Masood, a retired Pakistani general and security analyst, said Karzai's statements were "an extension of the pressure that is being mounted by the U.S."

"This obviously means that they (the U.S.) are pushing Pakistan to take military action instead of negotiating. There is pressure on Karzai as well, and Karzai is transferring his pressure on us (Pakistan). The pressure on Karzai is more for corruption, more for governance."

As to whether Karzai would really make good on the warning, Masood said, "I wouldn't say it's too serious, but it cannot be ignored."

A spokesman for Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan, Pakistan's Taliban movement, warned of an escalation in Taliban attacks against NATO and Afghan forces if Karzai sends forces across the border.

Spokesman Maulvi Umar also said the Afghan army would face defeat at the hands of thousands of tribal fighters. Umar said Karzai is becoming "nervous" due to an increase of Taliban attacks in Afghanistan.

U.S. officials have increased their warnings in recent weeks that the Afghan conflict will drag on for years unless militant safe havens in Pakistan are taken out. Military officials say counterinsurgency campaigns are extremely difficult to win when militants have safe territory where they can train, recruit and stockpile supplies.

Karzai said in recent fighting in the Garmser district of Helmand province _ where hundreds of U.S. Marines have been battling insurgents the last two months _ that most of the fighters came from Pakistan.

Karzai called Pakistan a "brother government" and "friend," but also urged it to "act against those elements that are making Pakistan and Afghanistan insecure." He said it was better for Afghan troops to be killed during offensive operations into Pakistan than in militant attacks in Afghanistan.

His comments come as Pakistan is seeking peace deals with militants in its borders, including with Mehsud.

The deals have come under criticism from U.S. officials, who warn they will simply give militants time to regroup and intensify attacks inside Afghanistan. But Pakistan insists it's not negotiating with "terrorists," but rather with militants willing to lay down their arms.

Pakistan's government also insists it will not allow its territory to be used for attacks on Afghanistan, however it is unclear whether that is spelled out in the peace deals currently under negotiation.

Mehsud, who is based mainly in the South Waziristan tribal area, has said he would continue to send fighters to battle U.S. forces in Afghanistan even as he seeks peace with Pakistan.

U.S. and NATO commanders say that following the peace agreements this spring, attacks have risen in the eastern area of Afghanistan along the border.

Meanwhile, U.S.-led coalition and Afghan forces killed more than 15 insurgents during a hunt for inmates who fled the Kandahar prison after the attack Friday. The U.S. said it couldn't immediately confirm that any of the 15 killed were escaped prisoners.

The provincial police chief of Kandahar, Sayed Agha Saqib, has said 870 prisoners _ including some 400 Taliban militants _ escaped from the prison. Saqib said Sunday that Afghan forces have recaptured 20 prisoners, including seven former Taliban inmates.

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Associated Press writers Zarar Khan, Habibullah Khan and Nahal Toosi contributed to this report from Pakistan.

KABUL, Afghanistan — Afghan President Hamid Karzai threatened Sunday to send Afghan troops after notorious Taliban leaders inside Pakistan in an angry warning to his eastern neighbor that he wil...
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This is a gigantic and getting close to being, an unmanageable mess, in a very slow making.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 06/15/2008

They will surely be succesful as the USA has done such a good job of training their new army and supplying it with state of the art weapons.... Of course, President B U S H is no longer concerned about the whereabouts of O bin La d i n so the Afgan army has plenty of time to invade Pakistan.

It should be noted that the areas that would need to be invaded not even Musharraf would dared entered.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 06/15/2008
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Jeez..... Democracy is on the march again.... yikes.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 06/15/2008
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If Bush could pronounce "marionette" he could explain to Karzai what the term means.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 06/15/2008
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Paper tiger.

The entire world is laughing at his empty threat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 06/15/2008

It's perfectly clear that Pakistan has WMD, so Afghanistan has no choice but to invade. Maybe they'll send Colin Powell and some diagrams to the UN and try to build a coalition, first.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 06/15/2008

What a dipshit idea!!!!?????

Why not use the Afghan Army to control the NACRO-Terrorists and Taliban INSIDE Afghanistan . . . then AFTER THAT, ask about borrowing the U.S. Army trucks to drive over the mountains into Pakistan???

Seems only right that just maybe the Major of Kabul should get control of his OWN country before wandering off to get his ass kicked . . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 06/15/2008

Meanwhile millions of Karzai's countrymen are still sitting in Pakistan, a country they had to take refuge in after 1979 invasion of Afghanistan by the Russians. if I am not mistaken, Kazai himself was once a refugee in Pakistan. Does the saying,"biting the hand that feeds you" ring a bell?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 06/15/2008
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Karzai and Musharaf despise each other even rerfusing to shake hands with each other. And Pakistan essentially created and funded the Taliban. It's really a mess. And the borders are essentially meaningless where tribal loyalties mean much more then loyalties to country. Now the Taliban is biting the hand that created it Pakistan. I have to say that it's a hollow threat, the Afghan military is a hollow force.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 06/15/2008
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I believe Pakistan has nukes to screw with India.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 06/15/2008

Not a very scary threat. This is only to justify the billions of dollars given to Afghanistan in return to go after terrorists. What Afghan army? The one that drives old clunkers, bicycles and donkeys - the one that takes months to learn how to drive a jeep. Allied forces claim that they need extra soldiers to fight the Taliban and yet Karzai wants to attack Pakistan! What a lemming!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 06/15/2008
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Hmmmm... I guess Mr. Karzai never sniffed the smell of nuke's fumes. Well, he wouldn't have to travel that long to places like Hiroshima and Nagasaki to see the effect when you get some fed to you. Ok, now more seriously, I do not think it is in the best interest of Afghanistan to be pissing off its military giant neighbor/neighbour which unlike any other country in that area has been in the forefront of the fight against the Taliban after their toppling in afghanistan. If anything, Mr. Karzai should be remembered that Musharraf, the West's ally in that fight is no longer in charge in Pakistan and the new Pakistani governing coalition is working to "appease" the pro-Taliban warlords in Pakistan. The last thing the Afghans want to do is give reason to the new Pakistani gov. that the war on terror is the least issue they should be worrying about. Last, but not least, I wonder which forces Mr. Karzai will be sending to Pakistan should he put his threats into action, NATO coalition forces or Afghan forces? This is a million $ question, but the last time I checked, Afghanistan does not have an effective army. What do I know anyway.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 06/15/2008
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Oh yeh? He and what army?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 06/15/2008
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Getting into a military conflict with Pakistan is a bad idea, Pres. Karzai. You don't know who you're dealing with when it concerns (former general) Pres. Musharraf. Try a different tact.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 06/15/2008
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Musharraf would be more than happy to let the Taliban and Al Queda fighters he has protected attack your country, Hamid...it would be a losing battle...great idea, only problem is your bark will be worse than your bite.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 06/15/2008
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I agree with you in principle but quite honestly I can't see a different approach. The Pakistani government is seeking a peace deal with its militants but there can be no peace with these people because they aren't going to give up their long term goal (governments are circumspect what that goal may be but my guess is that the price would be too high and it won't be achieved peaceably so any peace deal is short term). I don't care for Karsai or Musharraf but Afghanistan has a right to protect itself and if that means sending troops into a place the Pakistani government is unwilling to send it troops to control its population so be it. America did the same thing in 1916 with Pancho Villa. The big concern for Americans should be our getting dragged into another war that would be difficult to win using the tactics presently being employed. A general once said that a war is an argument between two parties and the best way to win the argument is to kill the other party. My concern is that Afghanistan's argument with Pakistani militants and possibly Pakistan will need use of American forces especially the USAF who will be required to kill the "other party" on a scale substantially more massive that what we have thus far seen in Iraq or Afghanistan. This could lead to a wider war possibly invoving India.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 06/15/2008
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If the U.S. had followed up on the defeat of the Taliban and installation of Karzai with development aid and military support that would strengthen the central government against the warlords and helped bring the tribes into alliance with that government, we would not be in this situation now. But no. We had to go into Iraq. Now, for the second time, the U.S. has failed in Afgahanistan, the first being after Charlie Wilson's war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 06/15/2008

If the war on terrorism is going well in Afghanistan, I'd hate to see what its going badly might be like. The latest problem, mentioned on ABC news last week, is that high food prices have brought about a wave of starvation. It is a disgrace that Bush let this happen! Would it really be that difficult to air-drop boxes of crackers down to every village in the country? Or does the administration's extreme rightwing ideology preclude doing that, because it would be "welfare" and "socialistic"? This is the kind of thing that hands Al Qaeda and the Taliban a propaganda victory. "You're starving," they can tell the public, "and see, America doesn't care." Meanwhile, Afghan president Karzai threatens to invade Pakistan. He would have been doing well just to keep the prisoners at Khandahar from escaping. Or to keep his people from starving.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 06/15/2008
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