Honda's Zero-Emission Car Unveiled: FCX Clarity

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TOMOKO A. HOSAKA | June 16, 2008 11:31 AM EST | AP

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Canadian actress Laura Harris reacts during an interview by reporters about the new FCX Clarity at a Honda Motor Co. plant in Takanezawa, Tochigi prefecture (state) Monday, June 16, 2008. The Japanese automaker has begun commercial production of its new zero-emission, hydrogen fuel cell car, called the FCX Clarity. (AP Photo/Katsumi Kasahara)

TAKANEZAWA, Japan — Honda's new zero-emission, hydrogen fuel cell car rolled off a Japanese production line Monday and is headed to Southern California, where Hollywood is already abuzz over the latest splash in green motoring.

The FCX Clarity, which runs on hydrogen and electricity, emits only water and none of the noxious fumes believed to induce global warming. It is also two times more energy efficient than a gas-electric hybrid and three times that of a standard gasoline-powered car, the company says.

Japan's third biggest automaker expects to lease out a "few dozen" units this year and about 200 units within three years. In California, a three-year lease will run $600 a month, which includes maintenance and collision coverage.

Among the first customers are actress Jamie Lee Curtis and filmmaker husband Christopher Guest, actress Laura Harris, film producer Ron Yerxa, as well as businessmen Jon Spallino and Jim Salomon.

"It's so smooth," said Harris, who played villainness Marie Warner on the hit TV show "24" and was flown over by Honda for the ceremony. "It's like a future machine, but it's not."

The FCX Clarity is an improvement of its previous-generation fuel cell vehicle, the FCX, introduced in 2005.

A breakthrough in the design of the fuel cell stack, which is the unit that powers the car's motor, allowed engineers to lighten the body, expand the interior and increase efficiency, Honda said.

The fuel cell draws on energy synthesized through a chemical reaction between hydrogen gas and oxygen in the air, and a lithium-ion battery pack provides supplemental power. The FCX Clarity has a range of about 270-miles per tank with hydrogen consumption equivalent to 74 miles per gallon, according to the carmaker.

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The 3,600-pound vehicle can reach speeds up to 100 miles per hour.

John Mendel, executive vice president of America Honda Motor Co., said at a morning ceremony it was "an especially significant day for American Honda as we plant firm footsteps toward the mainstreaming of fuel cell cars."

The biggest obstacles standing in the way of wider adoption of fuel cell vehicles are cost and the dearth of hydrogen fuel stations. For the Clarity's release in California, Honda said it received 50,000 applications through its website but could only consider those living near stations in Torrance, Santa Monica and Irvine.

Initially, however, the Clarity will go only to a chosen few starting July and then launch in Japan this fall.

California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has called for a statewide network of hydrogen stations, but progress has been slow.

The state has also recently relaxed a mandate for the number of zero-emission cars it aims to have on roads. By 2014, automakers must now sell 7,500 electric and hydrogen fuel cell vehicles, a reduction of 70 percent.

Spallino, who currently drives Honda's older FCX and was also flown in for the ceremony, said he will use the Clarity to drive to and from work and for destinations within the Los Angeles area. The small number of hydrogen fuel stations is the "single limiting factor" for fuel cell vehicles, he said.

"It's more comfortable, and it handles well," said Spallino of Redondo Beach. "It's got everything. You're not sacrificing anything except range."

The world's major automakers have been making heavy investments in fuel cells and other alternative fuel vehicles amid climbing oil prices and concerns about climate change.

Although Honda Motor Co. was the first Japanese automaker to launch a gas-electric hybrid vehicle in the U.S. in 1999, it has been outpaced by the dominance of Toyota's popular Prius.

Toyota announced in May that it has sold more than 1 million Prius hybrids, while both the Honda Insight and the hybrid Accord have been discontinued due to poor sales.

Honda also plans to launch a gas-electric hybrid-only model, as well as hybrid versions of the Civic, the sporty CR-Z and Fit subcompact.

Toyota has announced that it would launch a plug-in hybrid with next-generation lithium-ion batteries by 2010 and a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle later in Japan later this year.

U.S. carmaker General Motors Corp. plans to introduce a Chevrolet Volt plug-in electric vehicle in 2010. It also introduced a test-fleet of hydrogen fuel cell Equinox SUVs.

Honda has no plans for a plug-in electric vehicle. President Takeo Fukui said he does not believe current battery technology is good enough to develop a feasible car.

The company has not revealed how much each car costs to make, and it is unclear when, or if, the car will be available for mass-market sales. Takeo has set a target for 2018, but meeting that goal will depend on whether Honda can significantly lower development and assembly costs as well as market reaction to fuel cells.

TAKANEZAWA, Japan — Honda's new zero-emission, hydrogen fuel cell car rolled off a Japanese production line Monday and is headed to Southern California, where Hollywood is already abuzz over the...
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This is good news ... unfortunately we are still quite a few years away from this being GREAT news.

The three largest issues with Hydrogen are still -

1) Cost (almost not an issue anymore with the price of crude going up and up)
2) Storage (needs to be highly pressurized - and even then the volume it requires is much more than a common fuel tank today)
3) Refinement (goes hand in hand with cost, but I meant more in the chemical aspects)

Refinement is where we need to make leaps and bounds. Hydrogen is not a good fuel source for one reason, it is almost always bound to something else and needs energy to free it from those bonds. I learned in college, and like the metaphor of Hydrogen as natures battery. We expend energy to break it from its bond - and then we can 'store' the energy used in the liberated hydrogen until we burn it.

So currently we still burn primarily burn coal and other fossil fuels in the US to produce electricity. Once wind and solar technology become cheaper (back to problem 1) we can all have our own Hydrogen producing stations at our homes that are off the grid and completely fossil fuel free - until then the only way we produce hydrogen is via electricity from our fossil fuel plants. Nuclear is an option ... but another can of worms in and of itself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 06/16/2008
- ahornick I'm a Fan of ahornick 3 fans permalink

To take your last point a step further -

If solar and wind power are better supported and more cost effective, it would make no sense to use them to create hydrogen as a fuel/natural battery. We could use residential solar and wind to charge batteries directly in plug-in electric cars. That then skips the capital investment of creating the H2, any production or combustion efficiency losses, water vapor exhaust (if that's a concern), pressurized storage issues, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 06/16/2008
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While I appreciate this logic, and completely agree ... the only other issue is battery technology. Currently batteries are super expensive and still corrosive and contain many heavy metals themselves - not to mention the actualy heaviness of the batteries themselves.

Hydrogen would reduce the use of batteries allowing (hopefully) for lighter more efficient travel with less stops to 'refill/charge'. If battery technology grew to the point where it could compete with a combustible fuel (weight and efficiency) - I say YES! Skip the hydrogen step. However I view all of this as incremental - one technology leading to another and supplementing the weaknesses of each other.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 06/16/2008

MORE FEEL-GOOD MEDIA ADVERTISEMENT LIES!!! BMW and now Honda! Until they solve the problem of using fossil fuels to produce hydrogen, the claim that this is a zero emission vehicle is a BLATANT LIE! Hydrogen storage (explosive) and energy density (very little per cubic foot) are other problems totally unrelated to CO2 that also need to be solved. Hydrogen will most likely have a place in future transportation, unless you like walking or riding a bike hundreds of miles, but spare me the zero emissions feel-good verbal flatulence until you figure out how to cleanly and efficiently split it from that pesky oxygen molecule.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 06/16/2008
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I don't know if you meant to reply to my comment - but I said basically the same thing w/out the partisan blow hard rhetoric.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 06/16/2008

Total bummer dude...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 06/16/2008

Water vapor is a greenhouse gas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 06/16/2008
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LOL..... h2o has very little radiative forcing (amount of energy reflected back)

This is one of the right's talking point rebuttals and if you have any knowledge of the science behind global warming it just makes you laugh. I was at a bar when a hack brought this up and I almost pissed myself laughing.

Methane on the other hand is very damaging, so people listen up, no more farting allowed!

and stop eating so much beef.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 06/16/2008
- mairs I'm a Fan of mairs 219 fans permalink
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Two things the Right doesn't want, cars that run on anything but gas, and paper trails for voting machines.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 06/16/2008

No emissions from the car itself. But plenty of emissions from producing the hydrogen or electricity.

No to mention the greater loss of energy with the extra stages. It is in fact a more inefficient use of our energy resources.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 06/16/2008
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Actually Greenland is building Hydrogen plants using the energy from their GeoThermal vents. In 100 years Greenland (provided its not under water) will be the new Saudi Arabia, only with freedom, democracy and hot blond chicks.

Doing nothing is not a choice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 06/16/2008
- Marlyn I'm a Fan of Marlyn 79 fans permalink
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Also, the Icelandic government aims at building the first hydrogen economy from their geothermal vents.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 06/16/2008
- theMightyT I'm a Fan of theMightyT 172 fans permalink

And lost of emissions from the oil tycoon apologists.

It's amazing that American oil companies are blind to the future. And the car companies, which are dependent on oil at this point, can't seem to cut those ties and just make the cars that can help stop hurting the environment.

Hopefully when there's a new president that has real clarity of vision and isn't intimately tied to Big Oil, the world can move on...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 06/16/2008
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 239 fans permalink
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And this mornings paper is full of Chevy and Ford ads for huge, gas sucking pick ups, on special sale.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 06/16/2008
- mairs I'm a Fan of mairs 219 fans permalink
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Enormous pickups are exempt from being the symbol of excess. They're just SUVs without a shell.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 06/16/2008
- Danny I'm a Fan of Danny 5 fans permalink

One way to solve the hydrogen vehicles "fuel station" problem is to go for electric cars that can be refueled by plugging them in from your home. The electricity can be produced by solar energy. Imagine a solar-powered house that can also fuel a vehicle !! Such cars existed in the mid-1990s but were mysteriously "re-possessed" by the maker, GM. People who drove them loved them, and traced what happened to those vehicles in the documentary "Who Killed the Electric Car?". Rent the DVD at your local video store.

Can't wait to drive an electric car myself. As of now there are too few among us who can afford these hydrogen machines, and who live near the "fueling" stations. The hydrogen fuel-cell versions are expensive, and what luck for gasoline stations, there are too few "fueling stations". That should give the former "seven sisters" another twenty years to gouge us at the pump, and pollute the planet beyond repair.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 06/16/2008

I like your style! I've been waiting for an electric car that will plug into my solar powered house. I mean it. We are trying to find the way right now to go solar and may have found it. Now we are waiting for the plug in car to quit using gas. It's the future. It's here.

Oh, and I don't think much of hydrogen. Isn't that just a way for Big Oil to replace gas stations with hydrogen stations?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 06/16/2008
- theMightyT I'm a Fan of theMightyT 172 fans permalink

Personally I hope they do. It's not a bad thing to replace oilmen's jobs with hydrogen jobs. At least that will nullify the cost to the economy if everything does eventually go hydrogen instead of fossil fuels...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 06/16/2008

Hopefully this will offset the amount of petroleum Jamie Lee Curtis uses in going through 16 plastic cups of Activia yogurt per day.

(Source: http://www.hulu.com/watch/17002/saturday-night-live-activia-yogurt )

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 06/16/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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LOL! did you see the skit on SNL with Kristin playing JLC making an Activaia commercial?

hilarious!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 PM on 06/16/2008
- mijumom I'm a Fan of mijumom 14 fans permalink

Hilarious, thanks!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 06/16/2008

^^^ LOL ^^^ that's funny!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 06/16/2008

imagine is they could harness solar, and you could create enough electricity from solar to not only power your home, but to charge your car.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 06/16/2008

There's a good survey piece about the issue on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_economy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 06/16/2008
- jpcline004 I'm a Fan of jpcline004 11 fans permalink

thanks

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 PM on 06/16/2008

ask yourself how the hydrogen is produced"

All the methods are less energy intense than the refining process for oil. Plus - no trans cost to the refinery, not emissions.

The main problems are cost and storage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 06/16/2008

Don't forget transportation. Hydrogen is much harder to move around the country than oil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 06/16/2008
- TXfemmom I'm a Fan of TXfemmom 192 fans permalink

Hydrogen could be one of the answers. Saudi Arabia is afraid that the high cost of oil will stimulate innovation which could leave them sitting holding their oil and no one to buy it.

Hydrogen may just be part of the answer. If the price of the vehicle could be affordable, then they could be sold in areas where the fuel supply could be established and the owners could use it within that area, until expansion occurs. It shall take a number of changes and innovations to assist in getting this situation pulled away from oil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 06/16/2008

The biggest issue standing in the way is the issue of supplying fuel for this type of vehicle. If they can solve it by following their proposed plan of having hydrogen stations all over the nation (like gasoline stations) and then eventually moving to a system where you can have your own hydrogen refueling station at home it would work. The cost of these vehicles will remain high but as demand grows so will the supply and it will drive down the cost.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 06/16/2008
- edpell I'm a Fan of edpell 3 fans permalink

Saudi Arabia bought GE Plastics Corporation. The Saudi's have no interest in the low margin business of burning oil they will be in the high margin business of making plastics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 06/16/2008
- Roxanna I'm a Fan of Roxanna 31 fans permalink

High cost of Oil will stimulate alternativ­es... The higher the cost the faster the stimulatio­n.I am all for it.

Energy is power and the oil companies have been in the drivers seat controlling and suppressing for a long time both from the development of alternatives to governments.

It is time for change!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 06/16/2008
- bennofs I'm a Fan of bennofs 3 fans permalink

You are exactly right. Doesn't anybody see the correlation between the Saudis sudden production of even more oil and the announcement of these new auto technologies which have the capacity of making obsolete and drowning the middle east and every other global, corporate/military entity with the product they have controlled the planet with for the past hundred or so years .

This technology has been around for some time and its only govt and corp interference that's kept it from development.

And nothing will change until we take the Constitutional rights back from these corporation which were stolen from the American Citizen by Big Brother. The corporation is not a person and should have none of the rights of the individual citizen. We need to repeal that portion of the fourteenth amendment that we were hoodwinked out of and restore the rights that were meant for 'we the people' , not they the corporation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 06/16/2008
- OhioJan I'm a Fan of OhioJan 6 fans permalink
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Don't fret about the Saudi's sitting on their oil supplies, the Chinese & East Indians will suck it all up before they even realize what had happened!!! Bring it on, Honda & Toyota, since Ford & GM could care less!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 06/16/2008
- dapperd72 I'm a Fan of dapperd72 8 fans permalink
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This is great news for anyone who cares both about her/his wallet and the planet's fate. However, I hope this won't only be available to the rich & famous, such as Jamie Lee Curtis, like the Tesla, which is gorgeous but priced way out of my budget. Since I drive a 2006 conventional Civic, when can I trade in for a hybrid version of this Clarity? Otherwise when will hydrogen fuel cell stations become ubiquitous? How much will this cost with all the usual "options" converted into standard features, ie. dual & side-curtain airbags, ABS, CD 4-speaker stereo (preferably with tape deck included)?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 06/16/2008

In ten years they plan to get the cost of this vehicle down to the cost of the Tesla.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 06/16/2008
- Rockwell I'm a Fan of Rockwell 65 fans permalink
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Being a large man, I'm looking forward to the day when I can get a green vehicle I can fit inside. This is a great first start and I hope demand drives the market over the top. It would be nice to see hydrogen stations popping up in every major city. I'd drive cross town to fill up if that's what it takes to get this technology off the ground.

Can someone answer something for me. How does the cost to generate Hydorgen fuel compare with refining gasoline? When they talk about how green hydrogen is, I'm wondering if they are factoring in the exectricity needed to create the hydrogen in the first place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 06/16/2008
- Mojane I'm a Fan of Mojane 11 fans permalink

I can't answer the fuel cost question. But I'll ask one: have you tried out a Prius? Mine has max head room and leg room for people in the back seat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 06/16/2008
- JScott I'm a Fan of JScott 20 fans permalink

Yeah I'd like to know the particulars too, how roomy is it. Will it tow at least 1000 lb. (just like a regular car), What is the cubic ft. of the trunk.

I saw it at the LA auto show, cool car altho I don't like the 7 spoke wheels.

Kinda a (sad) statement on the US Auto Industry tho, it had to be a foreign company that takes the leap, ya don't see any US auto company doing it as widely as Honda. (Apparently they were too busy developing and building those gas guzzling SUV's)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 06/16/2008
- jhhl I'm a Fan of jhhl permalink

Until people can make their own hydrogen sustainably at home, hydrogen fueled cars will need the same vast distribution infrastructure that gas and diesel have. Expect the same old faces to be providing those services, using the same old energy generation methods to create the megawatts needed to extract the hydrogen, compress, cool and store it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 06/16/2008
- Mojane I'm a Fan of Mojane 11 fans permalink

It's very tricky to produce hydrogen fuel. It's also extremely combustible. Don't think we can do the home thing. But an all-electric is on it way that can be recharged using house current.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 06/16/2008
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"It's also extremely combustibl­e."

And gasoline isn't? Hydrogen will be used for long distance driving, if people are still doing that in the future.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 06/16/2008

Wonderful news. Finally a car company that stands up for itself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 06/16/2008
- hbw3 I'm a Fan of hbw3 permalink

But hasn't mass production, as in more than 200 a year, been envisioned for sometime after 2015 or 2016 or something?

I hope the chicken and egg car/fueling solution doesn't derail this. It looks like a wonderful car, I just hope it will get to the rest of us sooner rather than later.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 06/16/2008
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