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First Posted: 06-17-08 09:52 AM   |   Updated: 06-25-08 05:12 AM

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Monday night's "Verdict" with Dan Abrams featured its nightly takedown of "media hypocrisy, agendas and the perils of live tv" in "Beat the Press." First up was a clip of Cal Thomas on Fox News discussing the "angry" black women frequently portrayed on television in a segment on Michelle Obama. Later, a CNN anchor was befuddled about the link between flushing toilets, water and fire.

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Monday night's "Verdict" with Dan Abrams featured its nightly takedown of "media hypocrisy, agendas and the perils of live tv" in "Beat the Press." First up was a clip of Cal Thomas on Fox News discus...
Monday night's "Verdict" with Dan Abrams featured its nightly takedown of "media hypocrisy, agendas and the perils of live tv" in "Beat the Press." First up was a clip of Cal Thomas on Fox News discus...
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- glesslib I'm a Fan of glesslib 24 fans permalink

Yesterday I wrote my second e-mail to the Fox News sponsor, Aleve. I had received a response from their marketing department telling me they appreciated my input about their advertising on Fox News.
However, they went on, it would be impossible to find a network where all people agreed with all the programming.

I had written them to protest their advertising where Michelle Obama was being called "Barack Obama's baby mamma". That's not about programming....that's about a perjorative statement that could be construed as somewhere between "white folk hip" and downright racist. I don't care for either, so I wrote a second time.

We all need to keep writing. I believe in free speech, but this is meant to demean because of race.
If we don't write some of these sponsors, this will continue. Protest!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 06/17/2008

I also wrote to Aleve and Bayer. We should all write letters and let them know that this type of "Reporting" is unacceptable and we will not purchase their products if they continue to advertise on Fox News.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 PM on 06/17/2008
- glesslib I'm a Fan of glesslib 24 fans permalink

Yep. I had a terrible headache yesterday, took 2 of my last Aleve pills. I will miss the product, but feel a little better about myself. There are other products, I'm sure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 06/17/2008
- StillIRise I'm a Fan of StillIRise 588 fans permalink
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I keep thinking you're me!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 06/17/2008
- kesiac I'm a Fan of kesiac 10 fans permalink
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Black women are direct. If we don't get our way, and we think we are right, yeah you might get told off, but we would not, I repeat would not whine and cry because we didnt get our way, we wouldn't call you sexist, and we would never vote republican because the democrat that we favored didn't win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 PM on 06/17/2008
- Sparklez I'm a Fan of Sparklez 4 fans permalink

Girl, Preach

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 06/17/2008
- Mygirl I'm a Fan of Mygirl 6 fans permalink
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Amen !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 06/17/2008
- Charmed I'm a Fan of Charmed 31 fans permalink

"angry white women" have been livid at Obama for months and even on tv spitting out their hatred but yet nobody seemed that it was fitting to report on that in quotations. It's amazing how far some people are left behind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 06/17/2008
- glesslib I'm a Fan of glesslib 24 fans permalink

To say nothing of an angry old white guy who is running for President. Amiericans, whiteand black, male and female are angry. Wonder what started that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 06/17/2008
- steamboat I'm a Fan of steamboat 45 fans permalink

Not really, although some got mad because Obama threw his grandma (white one) under the bus inorder to make excuses for Rev. Wright.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 AM on 06/18/2008
- AdLib I'm a Fan of AdLib 277 fans permalink
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Latent raclsm influences the reporting and images in the MSM.

For example, if a pretty blonde white girl goes missing, it's a wall to wall 24/7 story on the MSM day after day. If a pretty little black girl goes missing, it's just another statistic that isn't something the public needs to know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 06/17/2008
- StillIRise I'm a Fan of StillIRise 588 fans permalink
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Here's another phenomenon of latent racism and its influence:

Have you ever noticed that when a white woman murders her children, she's immediately diagnosed with a mental disorder, sent to an institution for healing, and returned to her family.

When a black woman murders her children, she's immediately charged and convicted of murder, sent to prison, and left there to rot.

Over a period of about two years, my black and white colleagues and I actually started comparing these cases, and though most us blacks were already aware of this inequity, most of our white friends were amazed! Of course, there are exceptions to these cases, but overall the outcome is generally the same ... depending on the color of the skin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 06/17/2008
- dogstar7 I'm a Fan of dogstar7 4 fans permalink
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Nice hair, Cal. Funny, I have a pair of loafers the exact same color.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 06/17/2008
- openlids I'm a Fan of openlids 30 fans permalink
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wow, these scumbags really can't fathom a black man in a position of influence over them, and when a black woman shows leadership, intelligence, honesty & class, so much more than these Fox clowns could ever dream of attaining, their ugliness really shows. don't they realize this doesn't make black women look angry, that it makes them look jealous & petty, it reveals who they really are? i know they probably had some clones nodding along in agreement at home, but i pray to God that this election is one where there is more of US than there are of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 06/17/2008

As a black male, I think what Cal said needs to bought out into the open. Cal Thomas considers himself to be a man of some intelligence, and the best way to get back at someone who thinks they are intelligent is to make fun of them. Cal does not need to be debated point for point, he needs to be laughed at and ridiculed. It doesn't work when you call him a clown and you do not treat him as one. So just laugh at him and pretend to take him seriously and then laugh some more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 06/17/2008
- robXdion I'm a Fan of robXdion 186 fans permalink
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Yes it does. Black men have been saying this for years and got shouted down. Even other black women say it and get attacked. When a white man says it, it goes mainstream and they are exposed outside the black community. So they defend, defend, defend as if they own the patent on justifiable anger.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 06/17/2008
- openlids I'm a Fan of openlids 30 fans permalink
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i understand, i'm just saying that black women (or men) being angry is not the problem, the problem is CLOWNS like Cal have a major forum to spread this vicious stereotyping and cohorts right alongside of him agreeing & supporting him. for what purpose? political reasons? he's not running against any of the names he mentioned, or any of the local broadcasters he lumped together. i know why they say McKinney is crazy, she wants to open investigations into companies & their CEO's who made billions after 9/11, she put an impeachment bill for Bush on the table before she was ran out of Congress for the 2nd time, she grilled Rummy on the "misappropriated" $2.3 TRILLION dollars that went missing, etc, etc...you want to laugh it off, go ahead, that's your right, you have your reasons & are probably from a dif. generation than i am. me, i see it as an INFERIORITY COMPLEX, based on prejudice & a dif. gender succeeding in ways they never could, and they need to keep that s*** in their country club & not on one of the most-watched cable news networks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 06/17/2008
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Woops. Sorry, Cal, I guess you couldn't hold that Common Ground stuff as in your recent book.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 06/17/2008
- Grijpstra I'm a Fan of Grijpstra 3 fans permalink

Repubs will #@ss on you and tell you it's raining then accuse you of being angry when you figure it out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 06/17/2008
- adl I'm a Fan of adl 6 fans permalink

Exactly!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 06/17/2008
- the964kid I'm a Fan of the964kid 67 fans permalink
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These guys at FOX are so funny to me, they cannot help but look exactly who they are: racist, sexist, and ignorant. The people watching this "network" (and I have no idea who they are) have to decide if they identify with this type of insulting coverage. FOX is literally making sure that they are the network for ignorant, sexist and racist people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 06/17/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

The "Springer" brigade!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 06/17/2008
- BronxRobb I'm a Fan of BronxRobb 3 fans permalink
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As a Black woman, it angers me that so many of us are mischaracterized. This guy names certain Black women - Maxine Waters, Angry? No, passionate. Cynthia McKinney, Angry? No, "crazy."
Michelle Obama is not an angry Black woman. She is a strong, steady, smart, intelligent, educated, educable, accomplishsed, confident and empowered Black woman!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 PM on 06/17/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

Didn't watch C.Thomas on Fox ... never watch Fox! I only watched Abram's snip up there! However, it is clear to me that this is that same disgusting means (not even subliminal) to disseminate FEAR! Fear of the black man and the black woman ... 'cause they are hostile, they are angry at "us" ... we are to blame for slavery ... they "blame" us!

Interesting is the use of a white male this time ... guess another female would have been obvious to AA's .... aren't they sub-terrainial!?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 06/17/2008
- jpaultel I'm a Fan of jpaultel 4 fans permalink

So that you will be better informed and so that you can provide adequate commentary, look up the information online, Youtube, Foxnews.com, etc., if you didn't watch it on Fox. Otherwise, what are you offering your comments on?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 06/17/2008
- AdLib I'm a Fan of AdLib 277 fans permalink
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I notice that black Republican women are not mentioned in the "angry" category, like Condi.

And when we see Halle Berry, all we can think is what an angry woman she is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 06/17/2008
- TrevorAlan I'm a Fan of TrevorAlan 4 fans permalink

Michelle O is going to be the hands down coolest first lady ever. She is 60% of the reason I'll vote Dem this year.

While we're at it, lets get a few more angry black women in the cabinet. Do you think Iran or N. Korea would pull anything if they had to face Wanda Sykes as Sec. of State?

WOAH, on that joke, I just found out Wanda actually used to work at the NSA. REALLY. YES, we really need HER in the cabinet. THAT will show you what an angry black woman can do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 06/17/2008
- Wanjiru I'm a Fan of Wanjiru 13 fans permalink
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BronxRobb:
"As a Black woman, it angers me..."
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...then they must be talking about you :)

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 06/17/2008
- Sparklez I'm a Fan of Sparklez 4 fans permalink

Looking at Maxine Waters, all i see is strength in her. I see her fighting to get things done and not taking no for an answer. Im sure she can be compassionate and kind also, but us women seem to always have to be fighters to get what we want for us and our communities. Be it black or white, Us women as have to be fighters. I applaud these black female politicians who fight to get it done

And as much as i dislike Hillary, i appluad her for shattering that glass ceiling, although that ceiling was not what kept her behind...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 06/17/2008
- Mygirl I'm a Fan of Mygirl 6 fans permalink
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Why as Black women are we said to be angry if we speak from our hearts the truth as we see it and not hide behind a false smile? We call this honesty and not anger. At least you do know where we stand and don't have to wonder as we do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 06/17/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

It may have something to do with rhythm, or the lack thereof!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 06/17/2008

Nice lesson my sister. Those foxes at fox are trying to instigate what they think will have an impact on Obama's electability. They are trying to make sisters angry 'spewing' sexist (racist) remarks. Eventually, say, uh huh, see what we said was true. See the reaction!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 06/17/2008
- robXdion I'm a Fan of robXdion 186 fans permalink
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Because you think YOU are the only ones who have a right to be angry. And you vent on everyone. Often over trivial BS. You don't seek to understand others (black men for one) that may be going thru similar problems. You're anger is a self-centered, self-involved anger that seeks to make others just as miserable as you. Which is why so many are hyper-critical of others. Which is why so few of you are not married. You have a right to be how you want. But others have a right not to deal with you. If you were really honest, you would know this. Read some Shahrazad Ali and learn why.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 06/17/2008
- Mygirl I'm a Fan of Mygirl 6 fans permalink
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You sound like someone with a very passive White mate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 06/17/2008
- MsBrina I'm a Fan of MsBrina 5 fans permalink

Dang!
Sounds like a black woman turned you down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 06/17/2008

WOW Bitter much!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 06/17/2008
- MsBrina I'm a Fan of MsBrina 5 fans permalink

You sir are an idiot!

Shahrazad Ali? Isn't that the author that wrote, black men should beat their women into submission? *blank stare w/ a look of digust*

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 06/17/2008
- ladyv I'm a Fan of ladyv 26 fans permalink

If "so few (black women) are not married," that means you're saying the vast majority are married. I'm not sure how that supports your thesis.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 06/17/2008
- Yola I'm a Fan of Yola 13 fans permalink

Because the only thing we are suppose to say is "yes massa!" He is such an ugly white man that I think that is enough punishment for him - I would not waste a moment of my time trying to figure out why he would say such an asinine thing!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 06/17/2008
- Taaj I'm a Fan of Taaj 11 fans permalink

Fox news I know this will be too intelligent for you to understand but this is for your viewers who may one day want a change and TURN YOU OFF.


Many black women are not angry, are married to their best friends who are black men, have kind and sweet sons, who would never hurt anyone, and are Americans who just pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps and never took a 'handout' from anyone. Some of these women like arugula, some like KFC, some speak ebonics, some standard English, most both. Some worked hard after high school, many have more degrees than FOX would ever give them credit.

Americans, this is one mor thing up to us (U.S.) and not corporate media. TOGETHER WE STAND OR DIVIDED WE FALL. Each of us have to decide this time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 06/17/2008
- robXdion I'm a Fan of robXdion 186 fans permalink
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Sorry, but everything you've just stated is only in a few select areas. Get out more. Many black women ARE angry. Some spend their lives comparing and competing with white women. They rail against racism but are oblivious to how that effects black men and their ability to provide for them and feel like men. Since they are so oblivious, they rail against black men for not fulfilling the role of white men. It becomes a battle of disrespect. A black man has to fight racism in his life AND his women at home who ridicules him and only cares about HER problems. This hostility runs the man off. They then transfer this anger and disrespect to their black sons. Minimizing and emasculating them at every turn. Some are even feminized to weed out maleness, seen as an aberration to these women and a reminder of all their past hurt. Black women have been in SERIOUS denial for a long time and kept their fingers pointed at black men. Well, now their "anger" is seen mainstream, they can't hide it anymore behind being "skrong black women".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 06/17/2008

As usual, the truth hurts. Sure to make some "angry".....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 06/17/2008
- MsBrina I'm a Fan of MsBrina 5 fans permalink

WOW!

A black woman has broken your little heart, huh? RobX, it's OK to date white women. However, you don't have to put down black women to do so. OK?

btw...Stop generalizing black women and move on!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 06/17/2008

I'm playing the world's smallest violin for you brotha! LOL! As usual a story about black women gets turned into something about the woes of black men. Funny that!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 06/17/2008
- StillIRise I'm a Fan of StillIRise 588 fans permalink
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I think it would serve your argument better to qualify your remarks to SOME black women. As a black woman myself, I do not fit into your characterization of black women at all. I honor all black men, beginning with my husband and my son. I fully recognize the racism that they must battle each day, both overt and covert, and it is their strength that holds me up so that I am empowered to strengthen them in turn. And as I respect and give honor to them for the men they are, so too do they respect and give honor to me for the woman I am. Our rich heritage is founded on the love and strength and faith of the black men and women who came before us, and to dishonor our black men today would be to dishonor myself. I have no anger toward anyone, black or white; I have only love and hope, for there is goodness in all of us, though some are still evolving. But my black men are my heroes, and because of them, I am the strong black woman I am today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 06/17/2008
- nene I'm a Fan of nene permalink

Honey, I don't what black women you have met to make you feel this way? Because this black woman and her friends are all college educated at minimum, myself I am in medical school. We all have healthy relationships with black men. We do not berate and belittle our men, we hold them up. I do not know what sista hurt you in the past, but you might want to check yourself on the inside before you spread negativity on the outside. For the record, I have not now, nor have I ever been, nor will I ever be jealous of any woman of any other race.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 06/17/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

Coward!! So, Thomas feels safe couching Michelle O inside stupid comparison to an aging, tenured pol M.Waters huh!? Okay, they are both black and that is the one and only comparison that can be made there!!

I seemed to remember Hillary Clinton so damn mad and angry that she publicly yelled and ranted while flinging around some sort of political leaflet ... she was so angry that she challenged Obama to "... meet me in Ohio ..., Obama...!" She was so angry she just about did one of those .... I'm gonna get you sucka ... thingies!!

I didn't compare Hillary to any other "angry white woman" I merely mused, damn Obama hit a certain nerve there!! In fact, I also wondered which "Hillary" to expect once in Ohio!!

Well, anyway Thomas since you "need" expert testimony on an "angry black woman" ... meet me on Sunset Blvd., your expert experience has yet to be had!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 06/17/2008

Who said it? On what station?

Of course, an angry old white male on the angry old white male station.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 PM on 06/17/2008

Now why would black women be angry?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 06/17/2008
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