Obama: GOP Tactics The Reason bin Laden Is Still Free

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NEDRA PICKLER and BETH FOUHY | June 17, 2008 10:56 PM EST | AP

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Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., talks to the media during a news conference on his campaign plane en route from Michigan to Washington, DC Tuesday, June 17, 2008.(AP Photo/Alex Brandon)

WASHINGTON — A defiant Barack Obama said Tuesday he would take no lectures from Republicans on which candidate would keep the U.S. safer, a sharp rebuke to John McCain's aides who said the Democrat had a naive, Sept. 10 mind-set toward terrorism.

"These are the same guys who helped to engineer the distraction of the war in Iraq at a time when we could have pinned down the people who actually committed 9/11," the presumed nominee told reporters aboard his campaign plane. "This is the same kind of fear-mongering that got us into Iraq ... and it's exactly that failed foreign policy I want to reverse."

The debate between the rival camps echoed the 2004 presidential campaign in which President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and other Republicans argued that Democratic nominee John Kerry was soft on terror, a claim that resonated with voters and helped propel Bush to re-election. Democrats complained that the GOP was using the politics of fear.

The Republican argument proved less effective in 2006 when then Bush adviser Karl Rove said the Democrats had a pre-Sept. 11 view of the world and Republicans had a post-Sept. 11 terror attacks perspective. In November of that year, Democrats captured enough congressional seats to seize control of the House and Senate.

On his campaign plane, Obama told reporters that Osama bin Laden is still at large in part because Bush's strategy toward fighting terror has not succeeded.

At issue were comments Obama made in an interview with ABC News Monday in which he spoke approvingly of the successful prosecution and imprisonment of those responsible for the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center. Obama was asked how he could be sure the Bush administration's anti-terrorism policies are not crucial to protecting U.S. citizens.

Obama said the government can crack down on terrorists "within the constraints of our Constitution." He mentioned the indefinite detention of Guantanamo Bay detainees, contrasting their treatment with the prosecution of the 1993 World Trade Center bombings.

"And, you know, let's take the example of Guantanamo," Obama said. "What we know is that, in previous terrorist attacks _ for example, the first attack against the World Trade Center _ we were able to arrest those responsible, put them on trial. They are currently in U.S. prisons, incapacitated.

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"And the fact that the administration has not tried to do that has created a situation where not only have we never actually put many of these folks on trial, but we have destroyed our credibility when it comes to rule of law all around the world, and given a huge boost to terrorist recruitment in countries that say, 'Look, this is how the United States treats Muslims. ...

"We could have done the exact same thing, but done it in a way that was consistent with our laws," Obama said.

Obama agreed with the Supreme Court ruling last week that detainees in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, have a constitutional right to challenge their indefinite imprisonment in U.S. civilian courts. McCain derided the ruling as "one of the worst decisions in the history of this country."

McCain aides criticized Obama for talking about using the criminal justice system to prosecute terrorists.

"Senator Obama is a perfect manifestation a September 10th mind-set ... He does not understand the nature of the enemies we face," McCain national security director Randy Scheunemann told reporters on a conference call.

Former CIA Director James Woolsey, who is advising the McCain campaign, concurred, saying Obama has "an extremely dangerous and extremely naive approach toward terrorism ... and toward dealing with prisoners captured overseas who have been engaged in terrorist attacks against the United States."

The Obama campaign countered with its own conference call in which Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., and Richard Clarke, a counterterrorism official in Republican and Democratic administrations, argued the McCain campaign was emulating Rove.

"I'm a little disgusted by the attempts of some of my friends on the McCain campaign to use the same old, tired tactics ... to drive a wedge between Americans for partisan advantage and to frankly frighten Americans," Clarke said.

Kerry accused McCain of "defending a policy that is indefensible" by siding with Bush's policies, particularly with respect to the Iraq war.

Obama said Republicans could be counted on to do "what they've done every election cycle, which is to use terrorism as club to make the American people afraid to win elections." He said he didn't think it would work this time.

Republicans criticized Obama last year when he said the United States should act on intelligence about top terrorist targets in Pakistan even if President Pervez Musharraf refuses.

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Beth Fouhy reported from New York.

WASHINGTON — A defiant Barack Obama said Tuesday he would take no lectures from Republicans on which candidate would keep the U.S. safer, a sharp rebuke to John McCain's aides who said the Democ...
WASHINGTON — A defiant Barack Obama said Tuesday he would take no lectures from Republicans on which candidate would keep the U.S. safer, a sharp rebuke to John McCain's aides who said the Democ...
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- jeplanet I'm a Fan of jeplanet 40 fans permalink
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On the homepage:

"0bama: Bin Laden still free because of GOP".

Who wrote this headline? Bill O'Reilly?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 06/17/2008

I'll see pigs fly the day Bill writes something like that...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 06/17/2008

I've lived in this nation since 1958 when I was born. I've lived through the last seven years, same as all of you. Oba ma is absolutely right. These are the same guys who have lied to us and defecated on the Constitution since 1994.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 06/17/2008
- buckbuck11 I'm a Fan of buckbuck11 13 fans permalink

Two words: October surprise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 06/17/2008
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Tell it like it is Obama my brotha!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 06/17/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

Trying and punishing terrorists didn't deter later attacks.

Conservatives want us to believe that the response to that is to NOT TRY and punish.

But, trying and punishing terrorists didn't cause later attacks.

What Obama says, rightly, in my view, is that conservatives are giving you a false choice.

We can do both. We can try and punish individuals and deter future attacks. That's the "lesson" of 9/11. We have to do both. And, Obama, like me, believes we CAN do that, without throwing 240 years of lessons learned out with the trash.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 06/17/2008

It'll take a democrat to clean this mess.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 06/17/2008
- Scott1560 I'm a Fan of Scott1560 18 fans permalink

a Republican to bag that trash

and in Independant to start afresh....­.......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 06/17/2008
- macbabe I'm a Fan of macbabe 105 fans permalink
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history surely proves that!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 06/17/2008

Actually, it will take someone a lot better than a Democrat or a Republican.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 06/17/2008

OMFG! He really is speaking truth to power. It's been a long time coming for someone to call out the GOP for their fear-mongering and say it like it is: were we not in Iraq, Afghanistan would not be in the state it is in and UBL would have been killed of captured; remember that 'ol' poster out west' Dubya, "wanted dead or alive?" No one can lecture Obama on foreign policy when he is hitting them with truth bombs like this one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 06/17/2008
- blastocyst I'm a Fan of blastocyst 27 fans permalink

George Brushy says we are going after bin Leaden again plunging billions into Iraq and making his war prong friends and "Halibut's" Cheney all very rich men. Don't think for an instance that Cheney isn't profiting from this war just because he Kutuzov's making any Miocene through Halibut. He shrill has friends in Harridan. McCain now has nearly all the policies of Bush so if we elect him, we re-elect Bush. When McCain says he is not like George Bush, the only thing he can trot out to show a difference is that 5 years ago he was concerned about global warming. But what do his actions say? Only a fool would support 4 more years of McCain/Bush. Even if we ended up being taxed to our Tripoli's, we would be in less pain and Sanger than we would if McCain/Bush clawed onto power. Abeam is right. We have been duped and doped by a president who waged a war for distraction while the real criminal of 9/11 has gad 7 years of life and freedom that the 9/11 victimise did not. And the GOP, Bustiest, and Moccasin let it happen very mudflat friends. Annoying who doesn't see this as nonporous is a fool. Abeam should be lauded for bringing this into the race. Pound it away. Show that supporting by 'Megaphoning'. Shrilly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 06/17/2008
- Coyote2 I'm a Fan of Coyote2 85 fans permalink
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NYDamien posted; “BTW......­....Having done two tours, believe me when I tell you our special o p s guys could capture a gnat's p ubic hair in a windstorm if given the go-ahead.”

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Ha ha ha ..........­......you'­re funny. Someone who truly believes in “the beauty of our w eapons!” Having awesome w eapons doesn't make us great.

If our billion$ of untold billion$ of dollar$ of $ecurity $py and defen$e -and $pecial op$, dark op$, $ecret op$- completely failed to see even a hint of 9 /1 1 coming; if after all this super-dupper American Might, we could not even scramble fighter jets properly even though C h e n e y was running “war games;” and, after being warned by foreign secret service agencies, if our people are so hot, how come 9 /1 1 was SUCH A SUCCESSFUL TOTAL SNEAK ATTACK?

MASSIVE and unrelenting INCOM PETENCE !!!
-and yet no se c urity purge occurred;
-no-one was fired;
-no-one was found at fault.
-Obviously “our special o p s guys couldn't capture their own p ubic hair in a bathroom,”
-not only this, but America is so incom petent and obsolete as to REWARD those responsible with Promotions, Presid ential medals and fat retirement packages.

Or was it conspiracy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 06/17/2008

You sound like you might be alittle jealous of our heros.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 06/17/2008
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Can you respond to the content of coyote2's post? There is a lot of factual type material in there, surely there's something you can pick apart in substance?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 06/17/2008
- Coyote2 I'm a Fan of Coyote2 85 fans permalink
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Failure to see even a hint of 9 /1 1 coming; ordering investigators off the case: this does not describe heroes, but hubris and fools.

Or conspirators.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 06/17/2008
- max I'm a Fan of max 11 fans permalink

where did you pull that ot of candy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 PM on 06/17/2008
- lizr I'm a Fan of lizr 249 fans permalink
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You are leaving out one crucial element.. the MOTIVATION at the top to do things that are in the interests of the American people.

This has always been in doubt.

Think about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 06/17/2008
- Coyote2 I'm a Fan of Coyote2 85 fans permalink
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so it was cons piracy involving our special o ps guys then?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 06/17/2008
- Coyote2 I'm a Fan of Coyote2 85 fans permalink
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The republicans scorn and deride the idea of a Common Good. They are Machiavellians, which means choosing the most brutal options as that will terrify the populace into submission.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 06/17/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 236 fans permalink

Conspiracy!! Bush, Inc.'s prior to 9/11, Daily Brief (testified to by Condi Rice pudding) specifically stated, terrorists would use airplanes as guided missiles! Ms. Rice could not explain the lack of comprehension by Bush, Inc. with any intelligent response!

Perhaps Condi was on the outside peering in as was McClellan!?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 PM on 06/17/2008
- zendem1 I'm a Fan of zendem1 109 fans permalink

When asked to comment Senator McCain said nothing of any relevance. A McCain campaign spokesman said that what the senator meant to say was that he had been a prisoner of war and Obama will raise your taxes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 06/17/2008

The Bushies were the ones with the pre-9/11 mindset. They planned to invade Iraq before they were even in office. As stupid as it would have been to invade before 9/11 it was stupider afterwards. Especially with Osama predicting acrusade that would unite Islam against the West. Bush made him a prophetNow we're shoving 58 permanent bases down the throats of the "democracy" we created. That is a pre-Crusades mindset.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 06/17/2008

FINALLY THE TRUTH IS EMERGING. FREE AT LAST

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 06/17/2008

It makes perfect sense to me why McCain sold is soul to GOP Right wing. It because they hold him hostage let me explain. Bush & Co. Know where Bin Laden is, and they can kill him anytime. McCain must have been told that, so he play the GOP handbook for this election race.

Bush & Co say to McCain to ''stay the course'' with the promess to deliver Bin Laden's head before the November election, assuring McCain to be elected. We know Bush & Co are criminals (and might even have set the 9/11 terrorist attack) they need one of their own to not get the new President looking for evidence of criminal activities.

The world don't trust USA with Bush...no one should.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 06/17/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 236 fans permalink

So you think OBL's head on a platter displayed somewhere or here in America would cause Americans to elect John McCain!? Hmmmmm, I would hope that we are not bamboozled like that! OBL's head should have been buried long before Nov. 2008! All other republican policies stink just as much! After all they are the cause of America's rapid economical domestic decline!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 06/17/2008

That's bollocks..­.you think these people are smart enough to come up with something like this? Quit listening to AM radio and join the real world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 06/17/2008

If this were to be true why didn't Bush do this in 2004 ? As for Bush setting up the 9/11 attack you are among those who are really desperate. Oh by the way, have you heard, Vice President Andrew Johnson knowing that he could never win the presidency in his own right hired John Wilkes to assasinate Abraham Lincoln. Truly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 PM on 06/17/2008

Benazir Bhutto gave David Frost an interview shortly before she died. During that interview, she stated clearly that Osama bin Laden had been murdered and she named the man who killed him.

YouTube has the interview for your viewing. Just search for David Frost Benazir Bhutto and you can watch her provide that information. I believe her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 06/17/2008
- macbabe I'm a Fan of macbabe 105 fans permalink
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who's making money searching for him if he's dead?
is that funding for as long as the person who's looking is still alive and looking, and until he's dead and passes the looking on?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 06/17/2008

But, but (stuttering), the Osama legend needs to be kept alive. When people are fearful, our leaders serve to protect the U.S.

Why aren't more people capable of independent analysis and stop believing the BS that is constantly being fed to us by the MSM. I suppose that if McShame insists that OBL is alive, BO can't insist that he is has been dead for a while. But that would be a start.

This reminds me of the poll that showed that Faux News viewers believed that WMD's were actually found in Iraq. Please cut the crap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 06/17/2008

I don't necessarily believe Bhutto because her husband was a corrupt player in this whole thing. I highly doubt Bin Laden is dead, his family is way too connected and powerful, who would murder him? The US? No, they need him for their "war against Islamofascists". Plus the US is doing Saudi Arabia a huge favor by keeping Iraq oil off the market....­what would be the reason to kill him?

If the guy hasn't died of natural causes yet, he's not in a cave but hanging out in a nice compound of several thousand acres with all of his wives/kids probably right in the heart of Saudi Arabia laughing his ass off every day because we reelected Dubya.

I am amused every day at how gullible we all are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 06/17/2008

Barack is punkin' the GOP in their own comfort zone of playing the 'fear' card.

You've gotta luv it. LMAO

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 06/17/2008
- macbabe I'm a Fan of macbabe 105 fans permalink
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we have needed a "new boss" in town for SO LONG.. yes I am loving it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 PM on 06/17/2008

When the Repuglican played the fear card before, the Democrats would be falling over themselves to disarm the issue, or non-issue as the case may be. It made it easy for them to play that card and win.
Now they're dealing with Obama, who calmly looks at the fear card on the table, says..."th­at's ridiculous, sit down and shut the fuck up asshole." They don't know how to deal with this, it will be their undoing in this campaign. Mark my words, Obama is going to use the Repuglicans own tactic to make them look foolish. Kind of like when you'd grab your kid brother's wrist and start slapping him with his own hand all the while saying, "why are you hitting yourself?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 06/17/2008
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