Clinton asks top donors to meeting with Obama

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JIM KUHNHENN and BETH FOUHY | June 18, 2008 02:13 AM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton plan to meet with some of her top contributors next week in an effort to calm donors who remain frustrated with Obama's presidential campaign.

The meeting is set for June 26 at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington, several top Clinton fundraisers said Tuesday. The former first lady will introduce Obama to her financial backers.

Jonathan Mantz, Clinton's national finance director, notified donors about the meeting by e-mail Tuesday and urged them to attend and to contribute to Obama, who clinched the Democratic Party's nomination on June 3.

Two people closely involved with Clinton's fundraising said the meeting had taken on added urgency after several of her money "bundlers" complained that they felt their concerns weren't heard during meetings last week with Obama campaign officials in New York and Washington.

Both individuals spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the meeting.

Among other things, the donors want to make sure Obama knows that in order to get their help he needs to help Clinton pay down her campaign debt. As of the end of April, Clinton had more than $20 million in debt, a figure that likely increased by the time she suspended her campaign June 7.

Obama cannot use his campaign money to help Clinton with her debt, which includes at least $11 million of her own money. But he can encourage his donors to contribute to her campaign.

The two fundraisers who discussed the meeting said many donors also are furious that Obama's campaign hired Patti Solis Doyle as chief of staff to Obama's eventual running mate, calling it a slap in the face to Clinton and an implicit acknowledgment that she would not be on the ticket with him.

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Obama spokesman Bill Burton said no inference about the selection of a running mate should be made from Solis Doyle's hiring.

"This was a long and hotly contested fight, so obviously there are some strong feelings about how it turned out and what needs to happen moving forward," he said. "But we're confident that the Democrats are united in their desire to defeat (Republican) John McCain."

Clinton and Obama will meet with two different groups of donors at the Mayflower a week from Thursday. One larger group will include donors who raised $250,000 for Clinton's campaign. A more intimate session will be reserved for about 30 fundraisers who collected $1 million or more.

"The challenge is reaching out to donors to ask them for money for a candidate that they've been on the opposite side of for a year and a half," said Alexander Heckler, Clinton's Florida finance chairman. "However, we have to take a deep breath and realize that we need to all work together and have a Democratic president elected."

Another Clinton fundraiser suggested there was no rift, noting that a vigorous primary contest had just ended.

"The Obama campaign has reached out to the Clinton people," said Hassan Nemazee, Clinton's national finance co-chairman. "I think this is a process that is being undertaken and hopefully we will be in a position to assimilate the Clinton fundraising operation and the Obama fundraising operation together in the near future."

"The reality is that we're two weeks from the day that the last primary was held," he added. "It takes a little while for staff to talk to each other, for lay organizations to talk to one another. It's taken a while to get the candidates available."

Heckler said he has been working with Obama's camp and said he and Obama's Florida finance chairman, Kirk Wagar, have been speaking daily to discuss fundraising strategies.

Separately Tuesday, Obama met in Washington with most members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, many of whom had supported Clinton. Obama acknowledged that he still has work to do to win Hispanic votes.

All the caucus members who attended the meeting pledged to support Obama, according to several members who spoke privately afterward.

Democratic Rep. Henry Cuellar of Texas said he told Obama he had worked his heart out for the former first lady and would work just as hard for Obama's election.

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Beth Fouhy reported from New York. Associated Press writer Suzanne Gamboa contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton plan to meet with some of her top contributors next week in an effort to calm donors who remain frustrated with Obama's presidential campaign...
WASHINGTON — Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton plan to meet with some of her top contributors next week in an effort to calm donors who remain frustrated with Obama's presidential campaign...
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- oogabooga I'm a Fan of oogabooga 9 fans permalink

Geez, let's bury this Clinton thing. Kennedy ran against Carter, did pretty good but missed defeating Carter. Then Kennedy backed Carter. So Clinton supporters, let's do the same now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 06/18/2008
- maxdenn I'm a Fan of maxdenn 162 fans permalink

Let me get down to brass tacks if I may. Senator Clinton has something in the neighborhood of 18,000,000 Democratic and independent voters behind her. And some Democrats would like to write that off? Don't be ridiculous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 06/18/2008
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What is ridiculous is the fact that you actually think that 18,000,000 people in this country support H'illary today. She may have gotten that many votes, but in the end she didn't have close to that many supporters. If they had held the New York and California primaries in April or May, she would have lost both those states. It is also ridiculous that you believe that any significant portion of those voters would not automatically come to O'bama. Recent polls pretty much show that they have.

Perhaps you can answer a question that no one else has been able to answer. If H'illary had 18 million supporters, how come they didn't donate to her campaign? How come she's broke?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 06/18/2008

Not really true at all, but saying what if is a little silly. I am an HRC supporter who has already joined Obama and am happy to do so.

People have contributed to her campaign but many are maxed out and to the following post not contributing to Obama because it will help pay off Hillary's debt is a little like those crazies over at the PUMA don't ya think.

She did have 18 million votes, continuing to insult those people really does not benefit Senator Obama, and after being on his website and reading about the type of man he is I really don't think he would appreciate his own people undermining his campaign my continuing negative rhetoric about woman who not only brings a lot of supporters to his campaign but a lot of big money donors.

Not by the way that your campaign did not do a fantastic job of rasing money it was very impressive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 06/18/2008
- tbrnotb I'm a Fan of tbrnotb 19 fans permalink

Hey, why not have all those feminist Clinton backers take up a collection. They're the ones that pushed for a losing campaign to go on for weeks, if not months, longer than it should have.

Obama's money came from the people on the internet, sending in $10 and $20. Clinton's money came from special interests and lobbyists.

Also, she ran....she lost...she's worth $109 million. If she pays the bill, she will still have over $70 million to live on. What's the problem here? It's always us who has to pay. If Obama pays off her debt, I don't intend to give him another dollar. Let Bill and Hill contribute to his campaign. Let Bill be ambassador of the US and put Hill on the supreme court. They've made enough already off of "public service".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 06/18/2008
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O'bama can't and won't pay off her debt. Legally he can't do it and morally he would not do it. That doesn't mean that he won't help her with fund raisers to pay off her debts.

I, like you would rather see her big money backers pay off her debts.

On the other hand, it is really too bad that the Democrats are put into the position where we have to pay off H'illary's debts. I wouldn't mind as much if she had not continued to wrack up debt well after she knew she had already lost. I would much rather the money go into O'bama's fight than to pay H'illary back the money she lent the campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 06/18/2008

People use your heads. Both Obama and Clinton's BIG DONORS AND BUNDLERS ARE TAPPED OUT AT THE $2.500. These types ($2,500 donors, 250,000 and 1,000,000 bundlers) of donors getting together makes a lot of sense. Obama "big donors" can pay up to the limit again to pay off Hillary's debt quickly and her "big donors" can quickly put money into his coffers for the general election. Although its a little seamly, it is legal and gets around the constraints of the McCain/Feingold law. If its successful, that way both sides will have accomplished their needs. Clinon donors can rightly claim that they actually paid off her debt by contributing to Obama. Both sides can claim an achievement. That is what is going on. Next time put on your thinking caps. As a Hillary supporter who contributed $800 to her campaign, I would prefer we pay off her debt. Instead of asking us to do that she asked us to contribute to Obama on her website at hillaryclinton.com. Check it out!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 06/20/2008
- maxdenn I'm a Fan of maxdenn 162 fans permalink

I'm keeping my eyes on the prize this November. The White House. President Obama and the First Family will be moving in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 06/18/2008
- MaxTaylor1 I'm a Fan of MaxTaylor1 3 fans permalink

like Lincoln said after General Joseph Hooker was boasting how he was going to whip Bobby Lee at Chancellorville...."the hen is the smartest of creatures. She only cackles AFTER the deed is done."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 06/18/2008
- Alethea I'm a Fan of Alethea 68 fans permalink
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And quoting people from history only makes you LOOK smart.... but that doesn't actually make it so.

Sure, you don't count your chickens before they're hatched, but then again you must not know what the American people are feeling right now.

35 million people voted for Obama and Hillary in the Dem primary. That is more than all the other candidates COMBINED (including McCain, including Edwards). Just wait until Hillary supporters begin to migrate (which they will because BHO and HRC WILL do the right thing and reach out to them), and then the Independents and the disillusioned Republicans will get to vote too.

I think there's a great possibility that the Republicans will be shattered as a party this November. Just like the Whigs were in 1856. Bush is an idiot and McCain is a pathetic panderer who doesn't know how to use the greatest human invention since fire: the computer. And you've entrusted your party to these morons.

Would that make the Republicans the ReWhigs? I think so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 06/18/2008
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Why is it that the Obama's are being pinned as the elitists when the McCain's clearly have never known a poor day in either of their lives. McCain has lived off the taxpayer dollar all his life, and his wife has lived off her father's millions all hers.

So, I guess I don't understand what it is about the Obama's that makes them elite. Unless of course te Republicans have an issue with successful African Americans, but that would mean that the Republicans are a bit racist...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 06/18/2008

Because he speaks in full sentences and uses big words

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 06/18/2008
- maxdenn I'm a Fan of maxdenn 162 fans permalink

Perhaps we Dems should just throw the baby out with the water, and ignore Senator Clinton. I don't think so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 06/18/2008
- AurigaRa I'm a Fan of AurigaRa 27 fans permalink

well, I won't be helping her retire her debt, especially the $11 million she kicked in.
And if she's on the ticket, they'll get my vote, but I'll be thinking twice about any more money to Obama.
(and I planned to give a lot more)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 06/18/2008
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That's a great way to cut off your nose to spite your face.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 06/18/2008
- pinkyboo I'm a Fan of pinkyboo 22 fans permalink

I agree- get over your hatred of HRC and do whatever it takes to help Obama win.

Polotics suck and while Obama is better than most he is still a politician and will do what he needs to do even if it involves HRC to kee the Repugs out of the WH - we should be doing the same.

GROW UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 06/18/2008
- The5thW I'm a Fan of The5thW 6 fans permalink

several of her money "bundlers" complained that they felt their concerns weren't heard

This is the "help" Hillary spoke of? I know the concerns of bundlers are at the top of my own agenda.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 06/18/2008
- Mchris1947 I'm a Fan of Mchris1947 4 fans permalink

I know right? "SAVE THE BUNDLERS" *lol*

What "concerns" do these "bundlers" have that are THAT different than the average Democratic voter??? Are the Lobbyists mad that without Clinton they have less influence?

The point of Obama's fundraising push during the primary was to show that ordinary Americans can finance a winning campaign, and do it ethically. The "bundlers" need to get in where they fit in, and wuit theri belly-aching.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 06/18/2008
- BigMike75 I'm a Fan of BigMike75 11 fans permalink

More entitlement huh? I'm all for party unity, but there continues to be this feeling that Hillary, her handlers, and some surrogates should be handled with kid gloves, and everything must be done to placate them above all else. I'm dissapointed that some kind of support for Obama's campaign by her team is predicated on him bailing out a very badly managed campaign, who's finances largely went to fill the pockets of overpaid Clinton insiders like the Wolfson's, Mccauliffe's, and Penn's of the world. And that somehow regardless of her qualifications, and the fact that she was made to be a scapegoat for failed decisions by Clinton campaign controllers, that Patti Solis Doyles shouldn't have gotten the job she did with the Obama campaign. She had long standing ties to David Axelrod, and has a long time relationship with Obama, it is HIS decision, and he shouldn't have to make decisions regarding his campaign while having to worry about tip toeing around the feelings of Clinton, and her insiders. She lost, let's move on finally to beating John McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 06/18/2008
- debwarot I'm a Fan of debwarot 10 fans permalink

I couldn't agree more, BigMike75!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 06/18/2008
- WFV I'm a Fan of WFV 13 fans permalink
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Good job, Big Mike. I don't understand the kid glove treatment myself. I think as more time passes that will end.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 06/18/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

Not getting the "caressing" thing though!! A "feminist" needs to be caressed!!? Is that some kind of oxymoron!?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 06/18/2008
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This is all you need to know about republicans.

From a March 2008 CBS Poll.

Do you believe that Saddam was behind the attacks of 9/11?

Yes ...................... 28%

LOL

Link: http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/MAR08A_IRAQ.pdf

Page 4 - first paragraph.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 06/18/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1638 fans permalink
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That number correlates with GW deniers and flat earthers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 06/18/2008
- AurigaRa I'm a Fan of AurigaRa 27 fans permalink

and they are not gonna change.
I say let's offer them a state and have them all move there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 06/18/2008
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 339 fans permalink
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This info is certainly more informative than the junk that Carl guy used to put out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 06/18/2008
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yeah but ... he's dang good lookin.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 06/18/2008
- alaintex I'm a Fan of alaintex 2 fans permalink

LOL, this again.

Please note NO republicans were questioned in that poll.

All independents.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 06/18/2008
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Sure sparky ... not one repug!

LOFL
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 06/18/2008
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Makin up stuff is all you've got left ... huh?

Priceless ....
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 06/18/2008

WOW! and independents are even smarter thatn republican! SCARY!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 06/18/2008
- mcnairbo I'm a Fan of mcnairbo 9 fans permalink

Good. You don't want Hillary supporters, you don't get 'em. Obama leads McCain by 5 or 6 points and the GOP hasn't even started on your guy yet. Enjoy Mr. Barak O'Kerry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 06/18/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1638 fans permalink
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Once GOP starts, 0bama will be 20 pints ahead.

H!llary supporters are OK, just as long as they don't b-i-tch and complain all the time. It's becoming tiring.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 06/18/2008
- MaxTaylor1 I'm a Fan of MaxTaylor1 3 fans permalink

like Lincoln said after General Joseph Hooker was boasting how he was going to whip Bobby Lee at Chancellorville...."the hen is the smartest of creatures. She only cackles AFTER the deed is done."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 06/18/2008

No we don't want to be threatened with defection to McCain. Join us or move on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 06/18/2008

Don't let the media rattle your cages with a few divisive stories from some angry people out there. We can't let that happen Those threatening the McCain stuff is only a few thousand and a lot of them had GOP ties anyway they were not democrats to begin with.

Some woman writes a story that if Hillary doesn't get VP wont vote and some have threatened that I know but, I don't think the majority really will do that either.

Just a way to keep O people saying nasty stuff so we will say nasty stuff.

Although the threads are looking more positive so I am hopeful

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 06/18/2008

mcnairbo -

I am an HC supporter and I must tell you the conversation has been fairly civil in here today.

No need to stir the pot, focus on the positives: such as the NY Magazine article and fact that Huffpo is choosing nice pics of our girl to post and leaving the haggard ones to Mc Cane.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 06/18/2008
- luvobama I'm a Fan of luvobama 264 fans permalink

I agree. We are Dems first. Loyalty needs to kick in pronto. It was a devisive primary but now is the time to get together and bring our party home. The White House that is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 06/18/2008

I am an HC supporter too and I encourage people if you are ready to go to Obama's website.

Introduce yourself, let them know your from HRC they are very friendly and welcoming there.

I know you might have been hesitant thinking they would be tougher on their own thread but not at all, nothing but positive feedback.

Hardly anything negative is ever said about Clinton,not perfect but mostly all about moving forward.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 06/18/2008
- MaxTaylor1 I'm a Fan of MaxTaylor1 3 fans permalink

It's Baaawk Obama, mcnairbo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 06/18/2008
- Alethea I'm a Fan of Alethea 68 fans permalink
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You know, I got pretty mad at Hillary several times over the course of this race. I got so mad, that I swore that if she got the nomination, I wouldn't vote for her. But you know what?

I'm over it.

In fact, whatever Hillary wants to do with her career after all this, I will support her 100% because even though she was my candidate's vicious rival, she is still perfectly capable of doing a lot of good in this world - either as VP, Supreme Court, Governor, or just as the new Lioness of the Senate in true Ted Kennedy fashion. Having been on the receiving end of her political attacks for the last year, now I know why the Republicans feel so threatened by her. Now that it's over, I'm glad that she's really on our side! So whatever she chooses to do now, she will be excellent at it and that's just a fact.

The same is true of Obama and you know it.

So, it's time to act like adults, put our Democratic ideals first and concentrate on the real threats to our livelihoods: McCain.

Right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 06/18/2008
- pinkyboo I'm a Fan of pinkyboo 22 fans permalink

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 06/18/2008

Why should/would Obama supporters want to help pay down Clinton's debt? The debt she accumulated while staying in a race too long, in which it was mathmatically impossible for her to come back...and for some time? The debt accumulated while not just using typical negative c tactics but going so far as to give McCain ammunition with: 'I'm prepared for the White House and Senator McCain is prepared for the White House..." Or the debt accumulated letting doubt about Obama"s religion (right or wrong as an issue) hang out there?

Fine. Hillary had the right to stay in until the end. And I get that she has all of her supporters to sway to Obama. But, if it's hard to swallow Obama as the nominee for the HRC supporters, it's pretty hard (for Obama supporters) to swallow paying off a debt of a millionaire for a lot of her actions while accumulating that debt..

Full disclosure: For those who criticize me as being a "typical Obama-maniac," I was a clinton fan since 03 when everyone thought she would run. I was for her at the beginning of this campaign. I decided to switch to Obama after Feb. 5th when her tactics and attitude (and Bill's) became stomach-turning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 06/18/2008
- AurigaRa I'm a Fan of AurigaRa 27 fans permalink

even if you were not a Clinton fan before your arguments make perfect sense.

He did nothing to attack her during the race while she and Bill used dirty tricks that her
"fans" will not acknowledge.

Obama is a peace maker and I am sure can win Hillary over. But I will not send one dime for her
campaign debt, just as I am sure her supporters would not do if the roles were reversed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 06/18/2008

Thats politics, Obama is newer which is part of his appleal remember the Clintons have had to survive a lot of republican stuff and they did not beat them being soft. Tough people.

Things came from his campaign that were not always flatering either, I admit he took the higher road.

My concern is in our history when democrates have run tight primarys in the past we have lost general elections, we cannot afford to let that happen.

His numbers are not as high as I would like to see Kerry was higher then bam swift boat.

If you think Hill and BIll were "dirty" please that was mild the repub's unlease stuff that just astounds the mind.

Really I still cant believe we lost in 2004 13 point lead in the polls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 06/18/2008
- luvobama I'm a Fan of luvobama 264 fans permalink

We are Dems first. If we expect loyalty, so can Hill supporters. She is and always has been a good Dem. We need her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 06/18/2008

Get Real. You switched because you wanted to vote for Obama. A true Clinton fan remains always as a loyal Clinton fan.
About paying off her debt - this is a part of the American political democracy that permits it.
So it is nothing unusual for the winner to help pay down the losers debt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 06/18/2008
- alaintex I'm a Fan of alaintex 2 fans permalink

"Among other things, the donors want to make sure Obamma knows that in order to get their help he needs to help Clintonn pay down her campaign debt.”

Among what other things?

Do they want to make sure Obamma knows that if he doesn't help Clintonn pay down her campaign debt something bad might happen?

Financial extortion and physical extortion are pretty closely related.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 06/18/2008
- PixieThis I'm a Fan of PixieThis 53 fans permalink
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Su Spam durante demasiado tiempo y ahora se ha dejado en el sol it' tiempo de s para su siesta.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 06/18/2008

Yeah...what she said!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 06/18/2008

Obama supporters, if you truely support His Presidential run for the Oval Office, get that chip off of your shoulder.

They both need each other, you lose some ego and win a great deal ..



Obama/Hillary `08.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 06/18/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1638 fans permalink
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What chip? I have no problem with H!llary being a VP, just as long as she can help him win. That's all what a VP candidate is supposed to do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 06/18/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

Maybe you should ask Al G.re about that ... he was VP ... it was said .. H.ll was VP #1 ... so, who would she circumvent this time!?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 06/18/2008
- pleeezzze I'm a Fan of pleeezzze 6 fans permalink

That is exactly correct .
Why do these so called supporters want to put up a block against a sure win ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 06/18/2008

Most Hill supporters come with chips and threats.Its a 2 way street.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 06/18/2008
- alaintex I'm a Fan of alaintex 2 fans permalink

Capitalizing the pronoun.

How messianic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 06/18/2008
- jvarga I'm a Fan of jvarga 4 fans permalink

Things they'll win: A running mate with shockingly high negatives. A warmonger running mate. A running mate who doesn't understand the economy / economics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 06/18/2008

Can we lighten up on the warmonger I was always against the war in Iraq but last time I checked during that time this entire country went crazy.

Honestly I was uncomfortable stating my opinion I might get labeled unpatriotic, I remember two ladies on a talk show being against the war they were torn apart, very ugly time.

While I applaud Obama's judgement about the war he was not in the senate at the time of the vote, I will take him at his word but almost the entire congress voted for that stupid thing and trust me as a democrat I was angry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 06/18/2008
- truthskr I'm a Fan of truthskr 9 fans permalink

And some people need to let go of their irrational sense of entitlement. Hillary, as well as many of her supporters, are "owed" and "entitled" to nothing from Obama, and that includes the VP slot. They both ran the race, she lost, there is no automatic consolation prize. Also, there is absolutely no possible way that Obama will select Hillary as VP, but then there's probably not way of communicating that obvious fact to the group of her supporters who, until the moment she conceded, still thought that Hillary still had some path to the nomination when that path was mathematically erased all the way back in February.

Obama is already going to have to figure out a way to help Hillary with her debt (because despite claiming 18M supporters, that support obviously stopped at the wallet, unlike those supporting Obama). I think $20M+ is more than enough, and much more than is "owed" to any candidate, particularly one who can easily afford to lose that much money.

I of course welcome Clinton supporters (of which I once was one) to the Democratic fight for the WH. And any of her supporters who were supporting her at least in part on the actualy issues should have not problem voting for Obama (as a Democrat) with or without Hillary as VP. The other option is just entirely to heinous for anyone with an ounce of integrity and goodness to entertain.

Obama/Sebelius (or anyone other than Hillary) 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 06/18/2008
- luvobama I'm a Fan of luvobama 264 fans permalink

We could be 36 million strong. Get on the bus!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 06/18/2008

You say welcome while you insult her, wrong tactic.

Just say WELCOME

You fought the fight I know you lost, but let me tell you about this great guy OBAMA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 06/18/2008
- mcthfg I'm a Fan of mcthfg 29 fans permalink
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I'm frustrated, but I don't have enough money to matter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 06/18/2008
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