Democrats Side With Republicans To Shield Telecoms Participating In Civilian Surveillance From Lawsuits

PAMELA HESS | June 19, 2008 07:31 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — House and Senate leaders have agreed to a compromise surveillance bill that would effectively shield from civil lawsuits the telecommunications companies that helped the government wiretap phone and computer lines after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks without court permission.

The House was expected to pass the bill Friday, potentially ending a monthslong standoff about the rules for government wiretapping inside the United States.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland said the bill "balances the needs of our intelligence community with Americans' civil liberties and provides critical new oversight and accountability requirements."

The issue of legal protection for telecommunications companies that participated in warrantless wiretapping has been the largest sticking point. The Senate passed a bill that immunized them from lawsuits, but the House bill was silent on the matter.

The White House had threatened to veto any bill that did not shield the companies, which tapped lines at the behest of the president and attorney general but without permission from a special court established for that purpose, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. On Thursday, White House spokesman Tony Fratto said the bill met the standards sought by Bush and that the president supported it.

Warrantless wiretapping went on for almost six years until it was revealed by The New York Times. Some 40 lawsuits have been filed against the companies by people and groups who think the government illegally eavesdropped on them.

The compromise bill would have a federal district court review certifications from the attorney general saying the telecommunications companies received presidential orders telling them wiretaps were needed to detect or prevent a terrorist attack. If the paperwork were in order, the judge would dismiss the lawsuit.

Rep. Roy Blunt of Missouri, the second-ranking Republican, predicted all the cases would go away.

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Under the compromise, the district judge would for the first time be allowed to read the top-secret letters from Bush administration officials _ usually the attorney general _ to the companies requesting domestic wiretaps without court orders, according to Democratic aides. Each company got around 40 such letters, they said, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.

The compromise bill would also require the inspectors general of the Justice Department, Pentagon and intelligence agencies to investigate the wiretapping program to determine both its scope and legality. The report is due in a year.

Those two provisions, immunity and investigation, are meant to balance two competing concerns. Advocates for telecom protection say the companies acted in good faith and that the wiretaps were necessary to avert another terrorist attack. Opponents to immunity say civil lawsuits are the best way to determine whether the Bush administration illegally spied on Americans.

Not all Democrats were falling in line with the compromise. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada and Sens. Patrick Leahy of Vermont, Chris Dodd of Connecticut and Russ Feingold of Wisconsin said they opposed immunity. Feingold called the bill a "capitulation."

"The House and Senate should not be taking up this bill, which effectively guarantees immunity for telecom companies alleged to have participated in the president's illegal program, and which fails to protect the privacy of law-abiding Americans at home," Feingold said.

Several privacy and civil rights said Thursday they opposed the bill. The liberal political activist group MoveOn.org was organizing a phone campaign Thursday to pressure House members to defeat it.

Sixty-eight senators were expected to support the compromise, enough to defeat any filibuster attempt. The previous Senate bill, which gave the companies blanket immunity, passed with 67 votes. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, a California Democrat, was expected to join that group because the new bill includes a measure she championed_ making FISA the only legal authority for wiretapping for intelligence purposes.

Rep. Peter Hoekstra of Michigan, the senior Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, said passage of the bill by Congress was necessary before August when the first yearlong surveillance orders approved under a previous surveillance regime would run out.

The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Amendment bill also would:

_Require FISA court permission to wiretap Americans who are overseas.

_Prohibit targeting a foreigner to secretly eavesdrop on an American's calls or e-mails without court approval.

_Allow the FISA court 30 days to review existing but expiring surveillance orders before renewing them.

_Allow eavesdropping in emergencies without court approval, provided the government files required papers within a week.

_Prohibit the government from invoking war powers or other authorities to superseding surveillance rules in the future.

The new FISA bill, if it became law, would expire in 2012.

WASHINGTON — House and Senate leaders have agreed to a compromise surveillance bill that would effectively shield from civil lawsuits the telecommunications companies that helped the government ...
WASHINGTON — House and Senate leaders have agreed to a compromise surveillance bill that would effectively shield from civil lawsuits the telecommunications companies that helped the government ...
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I came on this site and expected this story to be the headline.H­ow stupid are we to think the democraic leaders work for us? My attitude is why bother anymore. No matter who we elect we are getting screwed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 06/19/2008
- pmorlan I'm a Fan of pmorlan 4 fans permalink

This story needs to be at the top of the page. This story is humming over at Kos, DU, Salon, Firedoglake and other places. Why does HuffPo have it at the bottom of the page?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 06/19/2008
- freebeer I'm a Fan of freebeer 5 fans permalink

huffpo censors are working hard to limit negative comments about Democrats, as usual.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 AM on 06/20/2008

If Barack Obama does not pressure the democrats to kill this bill then I will probably stay home on election day. Steny Hoyer deserves to be forced out of politics. All the democrats who support this bill need to be held accountable. Go here to donate in order for that to happen and call your congresspersons and senators. I forked out $100 - wish I could afford more : http://www.actblue.com/page/fisa

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 06/19/2008
- Titonwan I'm a Fan of Titonwan 7 fans permalink

If this goes through, we're lost. This will pardon Bush and all the democrats that Bush has dirt on. Call your representative tomorrow! STOP THIS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 06/19/2008

So, why vote for the Democrats, they only know how to do Republican crap. If the FISA bill gives the immunity, then the Dems should not get another chance. Hillary should join Lieberman, and help the Republican cause. It is BS that these Dems cannot do anything, without a majority. Noone could force them to vote for this. They are spineless! Better to vote for the crooks that are known than these cowards.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 06/19/2008
- RENREVARD I'm a Fan of RENREVARD 2 fans permalink

Top Dems are just trying to CYA because some were informed that Bush was breaking the law and did nothing. Pesident Bush and the telecoms broke the law. Both should have to anwser for there actions.Th­e FISA bill pre 9/11 contained everything the President wanted to do and still does.This President did not like the Fisa law so he broke it. Now any company at any place at any time can do what ever they want to any American citizen then turn around and say: THE PRESIDENT MADE ME DO IT SO IT OK !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 06/19/2008
- JBS I'm a Fan of JBS 19 fans permalink
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Didn't ya' just know the democrats would sell us out in the end?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 06/19/2008
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This has nothing to do with having a spine, ball, etc. This has to do with the destruction of our constitution and our country. These people are traitors, pure and simple. They will do anything to accomplish it. How many time has the three sh*ts, Pelosi, reed and hoyer betrayed this country by cooperating with this swaggering cheerleader? How many time will these so-called DEM leaders betray this country by pushing bills that are obviously unconstitutional and anti-American. We need to get this crap out of congress. They are trying to give this to bush before the next president takes office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 06/19/2008
- bayman I'm a Fan of bayman 9 fans permalink

This isn't compromise, it's capitulation. This BS proves we don't need more Democrats, we need BETTER Democrats. Can't we find people to replace the likes of Steny Hoyer and Jay Rockefeller?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 06/19/2008
- RTIII I'm a Fan of RTIII 88 fans permalink

ABSOLUTELY.

We just missed a chance to replace Nancy with Shirley Golub in the Democratic Primary a couple of weeks ago, but Nancy's next competitor is Cindy Sheehan, "Peace Mom." Cindy's officially independent, but is willing to caucus with the Dems and she is a progressive, thinking person. Support her Generously at CindyForCongress.org

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 06/19/2008
- KCFreedom I'm a Fan of KCFreedom 18 fans permalink

I hope Cindy Sheehan waxes Nancy in the next election

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 06/19/2008
- RTIII I'm a Fan of RTIII 88 fans permalink

Help her out: CindyForCongress.org

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 06/19/2008
- NABNYC I'm a Fan of NABNYC 99 fans permalink

Steny Hoyer better have very clean hands. Because if there's so much as one penny, one benefit that flows from the telecommunications industry to him as an individual, or to any Democratic politician, or to the Democratic party, or to their spouses or children or phony corporations where they hide money -- so much as one penny, then some public interest group needs to take them down. Our rights as citizens are being sold by the corrupt Democrats in Congress. This is disgraceful.

I also think it's illegal and attorneys representing those whose rights have been violated should not only challenge it, but also drag Steny in for a deposition under penalty of perjury to discuss why he decided to sell us out. This appears to violate the takings clause of the constitution (taking rights from citizens), the impairment of contracts clause, the laws against ex post facto changes in the law designed to benefit the powerful and injure the citizens. Just like this is intended to do.

Let's say somebody's invaded my privacy, and the law says I have until 8/1 to sue. But Congress changes the law to say oops, I needed to sue by 6/1, so therefore I lose. That's consider corrupt political insider Congress-for-sale deceit, and it's generally not allowed. Was anyone fooled by this guy Hoyer? Remember, Pelosi didn't want him -- he was rammed down her throat by Congressional "leaders." Somebody who knows how to play the game (get the money).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 06/19/2008
- aznurse I'm a Fan of aznurse 55 fans permalink

Please explain to me why this isn't on the headline??? WE KNOW THAT 80% OF AMERICANS DON'T LIKE WHICH WAY THE COUNTRY IS HEADED.
FISA IS MORE IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW. THE VOTE IS TOMORROW. CALL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 06/19/2008
- RTIII I'm a Fan of RTIII 88 fans permalink

Because HufPo is a part of Corporate Controlled Media.

HINT: Nearly ALL media is corporate controlled simply because even if ownership isn't involved, corporations are the primary ADVERTISERS. Note how even PBS has been moderating its message and self-sensoring!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 06/19/2008
- nick1936 I'm a Fan of nick1936 17 fans permalink

Why do we have leaders with no balls harry surly doesn't have any and nancy Well these so called dem have let us down get on their case and run these two Wimps out of Washington

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 PM on 06/19/2008
- PKSSK I'm a Fan of PKSSK 15 fans permalink

Where is Obama, why is he not speaking out on this???? What is Hoyer, Pelosi and Reid hiding or are they being blackmailed, as a direct result of the passage of FISA last August. What did the administration find out when they wiretapped the democratic members of Congress???? Why don't the democratic leaders come forward and trust the public with the truth!!!! The democrats were well aware of the illegalities of FISA and torture long before public awareness and are just as responsible as this administration for war crimes and the removal of civil liberties.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 06/19/2008

this is wrong on so many levels ! i think both the dems and repubs fear a HUGE REVOLT from the american people over this...if the american people actually hear what these lawsuits are about,they really don't want the american people to know HOW HIGH THIS GOES...IN BOTH PARTIES...­.....we need to put pressure on our elected officals..­..TELL THEM TO REJECT TELECOM IMMUNITY,AND GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THESE LIES

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 06/19/2008
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