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TOM RAUM | June 19, 2008 02:12 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — Wherever the nation should be headed, this isn't it.

The number of Americans who believe the country is moving in the wrong direction has risen sharply, to nearly eight in ten, amid soaring food and gas prices, falling home values and unending war. Just 17 percent say the country is going in the right direction, according to an AP-Ipsos poll.

The right-direction number is the lowest ever recorded by the survey, which began in 2003. When other surveys are taken into account, the general level of pessimism is the worst in almost 30 years.

And it's getting worse. The 17 percent positive reading was down from 24 percent just since April.

Those who said the country was on the wrong track totaled 76 percent of the people contacted in the survey, which was taken from June 12-16. That's up from 71 percent in April and 66 percent near the end of 2007.

Six in ten of those who chose wrong track blamed the struggling economy, with gasoline prices hovering above $4 a primary reason. "Poor leadership" accounted for 23 percent, while 20 percent said the war in Iraq.

Robert Ovitt, 57, of Derby, Vt., who describes himself as a political independent, was among those who selected "wrong track."

"It scares me, the way things are going now," said Ovitt, who is facing retirement in the next five years from his job as a correctional officer.

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"Ten years ago, we had a Democratic president, Clinton," and the worst that happened was his affairs, Ovitt said. Back then, gas prices, interest rates, unemployment and the federal budget deficit were low, he said. "Now that we have a Republican, everything is sky high. ... I mean I don't know how we're going to survive."

Shirley J. Bailey, 70, of Las Vegas, is already retired. The former Los Angeles dentist, who worked as a precinct captain for Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton, said, "People are struggling to live and educate their children." Married with four children and 11 grandchildren, Bailey said, "Just look around us. In my entire lifetime, I never paid $4.23 for a gallon of gas. The foreclosures are among the highest here in Las Vegas."

President Bush's approval rating was 29 percent in the poll, near his all-time low of 28 percent in April, while 67 percent said they disapproved of the way he was handling his job.

Congress, under Democratic control since January 2007, drew even lower approval ratings: 23 percent approved, 72 percent disapproved, roughly the same levels as in the April survey.

Asked about their party affiliation, 37 percent identified themselves as Democrats, 23 percent said they were Republicans and 23 percent said independents. That breakdown underscores the importance of independents in the presidential contest as both Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama court their support.

Software consultant April Dolan, 40, of Scottsdale, Ariz., is a Republican who believes the country is heading in the right direction. "I'm optimistic in general, and I do believe that the economic situation will probably get better in the next 12 to 18 months. I believe it's going to turn around, it's just going to take some time," she said. "Not that everything I think is great. I mean, the oil prices are a nightmare."

She said she has two sons, one already in college and the other due to enter next year. She said she supports Bush and "I don't blame him for the state of the economy."

Many others appear to, however.

Asked about Bush's handling of the economy, 72 percent said they disapproved, 48 percent strongly so; 24 percent said they approved, 7 percent strongly.

The survey reinforces the notion that consumers are particularly gloomy _ possibly more than economic statistics justify. Despite record energy costs, slumping stock prices and the housing and credit crunch, reports show the economy to be still growing, if slowly. Inflation and interest rates remain at relatively tame levels. And the unemployment rate is lower than it was during the past two recessions, in 1990 and 2001.

Still, "For the average American, everything's going wrong. I think there's a lot of reasons for households to be pessimistic. I think things have gotten tougher for most," said Mark Zandi, chief economist of Moody's Economy.com.

The survey results also parallel the drop in a consumer confidence index to the lowest level since June 1980, when Jimmy Carter was in the White House and consumers were being battered by a recession and soaring gasoline prices.

Among the findings of the AP-Ipsos survey:

_Men were more likely than women to think that the U.S. is headed in the right direction _ 20 percent to 14 percent.

_Just one in 10 Americans with household incomes below $25,000 feel the country is headed the right way compared with 21 percent of those with household incomes of $50,000 to $75,000.

_One-quarter of Republicans (including those who said they were leaning Republican) believe the country is headed in the right direction, compared with 11 percent of Democrats (including those leaning Democratic).

_People with lower incomes were more likely to frame the economic situation as their own "cost of living," while wealthier people listed the economy more abstractly _ a sign that those hurting the most personalize the issue a bit more.

People in the AP-Ipsos survey were asked: "Generally speaking, would you say things in this country are heading in the right direction, or are they off on the wrong track?" The survey entailed interviews with 1,000 adults, 785 of them registered voters. It had a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points for all respondents, 3.5 percent for registered voters.

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Associated Press Director of Surveys Trevor Tompson, and AP Writer Christine Simmons contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — Wherever the nation should be headed, this isn't it. The number of Americans who believe the country is moving in the wrong direction has risen sharply, to nearly eight in ten, ami...
WASHINGTON — Wherever the nation should be headed, this isn't it. The number of Americans who believe the country is moving in the wrong direction has risen sharply, to nearly eight in ten, ami...
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- AdLib I'm a Fan of AdLib 277 fans permalink
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I hear Bush_and_Cheney have special custom printers and print out the latest polls on rolls of toilet paper which they then use in their private bathrooms.

I also hear they each have MegaPacks of toilet paper rolls with The Constitution printed on them.

Not to mention special edition packs of toilet paper on which they've printed The Geneva Convention and most quotes attributed to Jesus.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 PM on 06/19/2008
- Coyote2 I'm a Fan of Coyote2 85 fans permalink
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how far the mighty have fallen......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 PM on 06/19/2008
- AdLib I'm a Fan of AdLib 277 fans permalink
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They thought they were about to win the pot but are now learning they're on the other end of a Royal Flush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 PM on 06/19/2008
- Nochnoi I'm a Fan of Nochnoi 130 fans permalink
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Do they giggle as they wipe?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 06/19/2008
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It depends on the width of the stance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 06/19/2008
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Isn't that the second verse to "Whistle While You Work?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 PM on 06/19/2008

Those 8 out of 10 people are just bitter! Bet they're eltists as well.

Those people who voted for Dubya and made sure the gays didn't get the marriage? hows that working out of you guys? Too bad the rest of the country had to suffer for your stupidity.

What's worse we are set to do it all over again by voting for McSame to continue the policies that have totally screwed us over. We are insane. To keep on doing the same thing expecting a different result, is insanity. But at this point I have no faith in the American people not to do it again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 06/19/2008
- Dragon5616 I'm a Fan of Dragon5616 16 fans permalink

Who the hell are the 20% that think we're on the right track?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 PM on 06/19/2008
- PAposter I'm a Fan of PAposter 119 fans permalink
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That's my question, glad you posted it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 06/19/2008
- AdLib I'm a Fan of AdLib 277 fans permalink
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Texas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 06/19/2008
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 324 fans permalink
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The people that should be forced to spend a month in lock-up at Gitmo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 06/19/2008
- GiannaX I'm a Fan of GiannaX 15 fans permalink
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Ha ha. Good one!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 06/19/2008
- AdLib I'm a Fan of AdLib 277 fans permalink
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West Virginia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 06/19/2008
- Nochnoi I'm a Fan of Nochnoi 130 fans permalink
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Appalachia U.... it's HOT HOT HOT!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 06/19/2008
- harriscrl3 I'm a Fan of harriscrl3 191 fans permalink

The Bush, Cheney and McCain family after all Cindy has always been proud of her country

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 06/19/2008

Yes. So darned proud she had to steal drugs to moderate her patriotic eurphoria.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 06/19/2008
- mystic I'm a Fan of mystic 18 fans permalink

The US military cannot locate hundreds of sensitive nuclear missile components, according to several government officials familiar with a Pentagon report on nuclear safeguards
(source: Financial Times, UK)
So let's get this straight: Israel is carrying out military exercises in preparation to bomb Iran JUST IN CASE it may go nuclear? Why don't I feel safer?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 PM on 06/19/2008
- Coyote2 I'm a Fan of Coyote2 85 fans permalink
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Typical far-lef tist position: when in doubt blame I srael.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 06/19/2008
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 324 fans permalink
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Mentioning facts isn't blaming Israel.
mystic mentioned known facts.

Frankly, I don't feel safer knowing that there is another s**tstorm brewing in the ME either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 06/19/2008

It isn't the first time the Jews are blamed. They are always blamed. I wonder why, what do they do so evil, breathe the air ? Terrible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 06/19/2008
- wmbear I'm a Fan of wmbear 24 fans permalink

HATE TO SAY THIS BUT...

Israel may be exactly where those nuclear weapons components ended up. (Isn't it pretty much an open secret that the reason Israel has nuclear weapons is because we gave them to them? This also explains why Israel is so secretive about its nuclear weapons "program."...)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 06/19/2008
- CactusTom I'm a Fan of CactusTom 30 fans permalink

There is an up and coming program on CNBC about how one percent of Americans equals the wealth of a combined ninety percent of other Americans—America’s super rich. Is not the super rich's wealth mostly dependent on our fossil fuel as energy world, and thus this wealth group is why inventors who have soundly demonstrated, for a number of years running, simple, cheap ways to convert water to hydrogen get nowhere with their dramatic discoveries? In other words, the Rich and powerful are protecting the source of their wealth by stifling a new, cheap energy concept.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 PM on 06/19/2008
- wmbear I'm a Fan of wmbear 24 fans permalink

Sounds about right....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 PM on 06/19/2008

Whatever...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 PM on 06/19/2008
- DCtrain I'm a Fan of DCtrain 4 fans permalink

duuh

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 PM on 06/19/2008

The only ones surprised by this are the true Bush Dead Enders....the 20% or less who are still goose stepping to this homicidal frat boy's tune.

We still have 7 months out of the total 96 months of the Bush Administration to go. This ain't over yet by a long shot....can you say "October Surprise"? Cheney won't be happy if it looks like his party is going to be out of power. He and Rove were thinking Thousand Year Reich Permanent Republican Majority as recently as two years ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 06/19/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

I'd love this stat. I don't know how you collect it, though.

Those who will now admit voting for Bush versus the actual number who did, from 2004

I don't think the two numbers would match.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 06/19/2008
- Coyote2 I'm a Fan of Coyote2 85 fans permalink
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diebold

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 06/19/2008
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 324 fans permalink
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At this point, most that did vote for him wouldn't admit it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 06/19/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

That's been my personal experience.

My favorite local Republican, however, is honest.

he told me: " no one's making any money with Bush".

I took that as an apology.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 PM on 06/19/2008
- PAposter I'm a Fan of PAposter 119 fans permalink
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LOL!, that's right "ChiGuy"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 PM on 06/19/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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I can understand why people might not 'fess up to that one

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 06/19/2008
- incontempt I'm a Fan of incontempt 2 fans permalink

there are 20% in mental institutions, prisons and Fox news contributo­rs....that about sums it up

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 PM on 06/19/2008
- falco I'm a Fan of falco 19 fans permalink

Quite fighting with your fellow humans. We gotta stick together. The people running the show (international bankers) want us to believe the Republicans are different than the Democrats. They don't want us to see that they are all the same at the top - out for themselves 9they consider us useless eaters). It's called the "America Divided Show". Divide them by political parties. Divide them by race, gender, age, paycheck, --the list is long. We spend all our time and energy bashing one another and no energy on seeing the charade. Let's not be here 4 years from now complaining about the Democrats. The have and will do the bidding of the people who hold the purse strings, just as the Repuclicans have. The international bankers, the unfederal federal reserve owners. These people have been ripping us off since their inception. They like war, it is profitable. They are like an octupus with their tentacles in everything you see - TV, movies, the media, all governments, education. They control it all. What to do? Knowledge is power. Re-read your history (real history, not what you were taught in school).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 06/19/2008
- Coyote2 I'm a Fan of Coyote2 85 fans permalink
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falco posted: “The people running the show (international bankers) want us to believe the Republicans are different than the Democrats. They don't want us to see that they are all the same at the top - out for themselves”

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That's why we chose O over the establishment choice, H. It's called democracy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 06/19/2008

Hey guys come out of your dungeons and take a walk in a flower garden.
You might get some hope.
Or did the government not water the flowers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 06/19/2008
- acudoc I'm a Fan of acudoc 28 fans permalink
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Right on, falco. And I might add, it's time to go back to an honest banking system by abolishing the Federal Reserve monster which was empowered by Congress in 1913 to create money SOLELY out of our debt (by creation of loans) and regulate the banks by insisting on 100% reserve requirements backed by silver and/or gold. Of course, this cannot be done overnight and the solution recommended by Ron Paul (introducing an alternative money system backed 100% by precious metals to compete with the existing banking system) is appealing. In the end we must return to honest money or we will reap the lessons of history relating to the money topic. Giving the power of money creation to a central bank (in our case a central private banking cartel) inexorably leads to a nation's decline, as the politicians enter into a cozy relationship with the banks to fund deficits run up by the government, and the time-honored preferred government program is of course war.....and always a so-called necessary war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 06/19/2008

Here HERE! I was going to post something similar, glad to see someone else did! This whole process is just the puppetmasters pulling the strings. This has been happening for MANY years. We are being manipulated and lied to by both parties. They manufacture fear and the sheeple fall for it every time. "The communists will take over SE Asia! (more money for the military industrial complex) "Mortgage Crisis! (1980, 2008) -banking cuts out the competition. Energy Crisis! (1973, 2008) - big oil and international bankers reap the reward) I subscribe to the thoughts of Thomas Jefferson-"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. " and "Every generation needs a new revolution.” and “If once the people become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, Judges and Governors, shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature, in spite of individual exceptions.” and "“Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms (of government) those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny” DO NOT think that simply by voting in a different party, that any of this will change. Energy Crisis??? Paying a lot for oil? Check this video out - It's all BS!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 06/19/2008

Hey Falco, I think that the goverment reflects the people, maybe it is time for all to come together.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 06/19/2008
- wadenelson1 I'm a Fan of wadenelson1 227 fans permalink
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30+ million GPS navigation units, virtually every new cellphone equipped with GPS and yet this country can't find it's way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 06/19/2008
- peacekitten I'm a Fan of peacekitten 573 fans permalink
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20% of it needs a map and a flashlight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 PM on 06/19/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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maps are for lozers! Real men drive in circles!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 06/19/2008

wade : Ahh... Technical extasy.

... But... They can find those GPS units easy enough !

( On STAR... ) On Donner, On Blitzen...


-ralph

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 06/19/2008
- Coyote2 I'm a Fan of Coyote2 85 fans permalink
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the N. S, A will find you quickly enough when the time comes and the D eep S tate demands your soul.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 06/19/2008
- maxdenn I'm a Fan of maxdenn 157 fans permalink

I'm going to keep my eye on the ball. That is. Defeat McCain. I will vote vote Democratic

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 06/19/2008
- Mercurial I'm a Fan of Mercurial 5 fans permalink

Having read thru the comments below...this conv. is only mildly interesting...and i'm being generous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 06/19/2008
- peacekitten I'm a Fan of peacekitten 573 fans permalink
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so why do you think it's our duty to entertain you?

your own bellybutton not enough?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 06/19/2008
- Mercurial I'm a Fan of Mercurial 5 fans permalink

you speak of being kind in your profile but the belly button thing kind of wasn't kind but it was funny.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 PM on 06/19/2008
- fignozzle I'm a Fan of fignozzle 15 fans permalink
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yet you joined it......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 06/19/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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so you're just staying for the free cocktails or what?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 06/19/2008
- Mercurial I'm a Fan of Mercurial 5 fans permalink

No...I stayed in the hopes that it would liven up a bit. Whats this about free cocktails?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 PM on 06/19/2008

Free?

I demand a refund!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 06/19/2008
- Nochnoi I'm a Fan of Nochnoi 130 fans permalink
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Sheesh.... I didn't know there was an open bar..... Food too?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 06/19/2008
- GingerB I'm a Fan of GingerB 82 fans permalink
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Go grab some oats and hay. Your high horse is hungry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 06/20/2008
- MissKaren I'm a Fan of MissKaren 43 fans permalink

I know that I am tired of being governed by and represented by morons. I want intelligence. I want a President who is capable of a coherent English sentence. I want to know that the Congress is not in bed with the morons and will stand up for me against them. Most of all, I want the morons gone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 06/19/2008
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Then YOU need "MORON-B-GONE"!

Just a little dab'll do ya.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 06/19/2008
- Coyote2 I'm a Fan of Coyote2 85 fans permalink
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what! you don't want a dude you can have a beer with?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 06/19/2008
- Mercurial I'm a Fan of Mercurial 5 fans permalink

I take it from your comment...you are not a fan of Bush.... it was the coherent english sentence comment that clued me in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 PM on 06/19/2008
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 617 fans permalink
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I heard O speak about terrorism today, well thought out, logical, and he ripped the way repubs have handled it in a crystal clear manner. I love someone is finally challenging the repubs supposed strong suit, national defense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 06/19/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

He's not afraid, lornejl. He's not carrying all the Dem-as-victim baggage. He wasn't around for all that .

He's not flashing back to LEE ATWATER and WILLIE HORTON. He's not freaking traumatized and cowering.

He doesn't know he's supposed to apologize :)

He believes being a Democrat is a FINE thing to be.

My grown children are like that. They're confident, even cocky, liberals :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 PM on 06/19/2008
- harriscrl3 I'm a Fan of harriscrl3 191 fans permalink

That republican spoof ad should say: I'm voting republican because I"m just too dumb to know any better. Or

I'm voting republican because this country should be run by morons like me

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 06/19/2008

Im voting Republican because Ido not like Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 PM on 06/19/2008
- mystic I'm a Fan of mystic 18 fans permalink

I saw a movie today in which 5 seconds were very profound:
"Edge of Heaven" a poignant new foreign film. One character from Turkey who is down on her luck, finds herself homeless in Germany. A stranger feels sorry for her and offers her free clothing, which she accepts readily except for a T-shirt: Looking at the label, she says in disgust "I'm sorry. I don't like American label".

We've been reduced to being the paraih in the world and better get used to it. A lot of it is revulsion and horror at the apathy Americans have at the torture policies of America. They shrug their shoulders and don't want to talk about it. Our silence is eloquent. We don't protest. I almost feel satisfaction at the new attitude because Americans in part deserve it. We have been arrogant for too long and we will for ever now be associated with this horror. America is now symbolised not by The Statue of Liberty but Guantanamo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 06/19/2008
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And the Turks are so loved in Germany...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 06/19/2008
- Coyote2 I'm a Fan of Coyote2 85 fans permalink
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That is why the goddess gave us a moral H E R O to lead us to repentance and change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 PM on 06/19/2008
- harriscrl3 I'm a Fan of harriscrl3 191 fans permalink

Sorry folks but Fascism is here its taken root and unfortunately is too late. Thats what happens when we let Fear advise us on who to select as our President thats what happen when we are so afraid thta we are willing to give away some freedoms thinking that it will keep us safe. This is the result fascism and powerhungry administration that has planted the seed and will now watch it take root with the next Neocon war mongering C student who has something going for him that may just put him in 1600 Pennsylvania avenue he is a war hero who was tortured we are suppose to believe that he can keep us safe more than anyone sure he is getting important facts wrong sure he is flip flopping left and center thats not what matters what matters is that he is a war hero who was tortured and because of that fact our mouths are TAPED SHUT we mustnt say a bad thing about him its not nice to criticize a war hero we should just turn our country over to him.

80% sorry but the hard reality is YOU BOUGHT IT ON YOURSELVES!!! All the C student Bubbas and Beer drinkers THANK YOU From an ELITIST!!!

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 06/19/2008
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Sorry sweetie;
the anti-Fascist Left (Lef tists) offers nothing more than h atred for I s rael and support for the enemies of I s rael, America and the west.

They are the un-electable left, the Far-left, the radical left, and according to that liberal document, the Euston Manifesto, the part of us that we need to divorce to free liberalism from their h atreds.

Lef tists are obsolete as Fascism has evolved and its current form is called CORPORATISM: the representation of groups, rather than representation of the individual as is democratism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 06/19/2008
- harriscrl3 I'm a Fan of harriscrl3 191 fans permalink

Better check with your fascist right because last time I check they are the ones that emboldened Israel's enemy perhaps its out of secret hatred for Israel or maybe its just DUMB unfortunate Luck. Either way even Israel is smart enough to start seeing if it can work out peace with its enemies apparently it too sees America for the LAME DUCK it is. Isarel is currently taking protection money from America but it working on its own to ensure its security. Thats what happens when MEDIOCRITY rules you get mediocre results. Isarel has to make other accomodations they can't depend on us anymore. Thanks to the villiage idiot and his twin who hopes to succed him.

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 06/19/2008

Harriscrl3: Better late than never, genius.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 PM on 06/19/2008
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