Obama Opts Out Of Public Financing, Reformers Back Decision

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First Posted: 06-19-08 09:22 AM   |   Updated: 06-27-08 05:12 AM

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On Thursday, Sen. Barack Obama announced that he was opting out of the public financing system, in the process forgoing "more than $80 million in public funds" for the more bountiful loot that could await him later.

As a result, Obama will become the first modern presidential candidate to run a race solely on the back of private funds. The move risks sullying his reformist credentials; Obama had promised last year to try to reach a deal with the GOP nominee to accept public financing. His decision to forgo public funds -- which he said came after a refusal to compromise by McCain campaign officials -- was quickly lambasted by his Republican opponent.

"Today, Barack Obama has revealed himself to be just another typical politician who will do and say whatever is most expedient for Barack Obama," said the Arizona Republican's spokesman Brian Rogers. "The true test of a candidate for President is whether he will stand on principle and keep his word to the American people. Barack Obama has failed that test today."

And yet, perhaps not surprisingly, Obama's decision to opt-out of public funds is not being perceived as a slap in the face by some in the good-government and Democratic communities. Rather, it is being viewed as a move of necessity, driven in part by an acknowledgment that forgoing an obvious financial advantage would be electoral suicide, as well as the belief that Obama's current fundraising apparatus is built, in a way, like a public financing system (with a million or so small donors).

"We have long maintained that presidential candidates would make a decision to opt in or out of the presidential system not on what they thought about public financing but what put them in a position to win in November," said David Donnelly of Campaign Money Watch. "That's why we find Sen. Obama's decision to forgo public financing for the general election regrettable but understandable in light of the tens of millions of dollars that will be raised and spent outside the system attacking him. The real test is whether a candidate has pledged to make passage of public financing a priority if elected, and we intend to hold Sen. Obama accountable to his pledge to do so."

Indeed, for weeks now, there has been an ends-justify-the-means attitude toward the possibility that Obama would forgo public funds. His promise to reform campaign finance is concrete and laudable, the logic goes, but if he doesn't have the cash to beat McCain and, more significantly, the Republican National Committee, his policies will never be implemented.

"We've already seen that he's not going to stop the smears and attacks from his allies running so-called 527 groups, who will spend millions and millions of dollars in unlimited donations," said Obama, who has already raked in more than $250 million dollars for his campaign.

In an interview with The Huffington Post several weeks ago, Tad Devine, who was a chief political consultant to Al Gore and an adviser to John Kerry, made the argument that, specifically for Obama, a strategy based around private funding was the best to pursue.

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"The fact that new states could be put in place makes perfect sense in this election," said Devine. "I think that there is some infrastructure even if it is minimal is a benefit for anyone who pursues that strategy, And the way to do it likely and I wish we did it in the Kerry campaign is to stay outside of public funding, amass a resource advantage bigger than your opponent and put new states in play. The way to win is to target the states that not only you can win, but forcing your opponent to defend...

"If, ideally, in 2004 we had pursued the best option and not have taken public funding and raised the money we could have raised, which was a couple hundred million dollars and not the 87 million, it would have changed thing dramatically. We would have immediately started advertising in Colorado in the summer, we would have advertised more in Nevada, we might have looked at Virginia to force them to defend it... I think a resource advantage is perhaps the biggest single advantage in politics."

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Obama's message to supporters about his decision to opt out of public financing:

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Pretty much every reform group has now weighed in on Obama's decision, and their reactions span from "we understand," to "we're disappointed."

Public Campaign Action Fund:
"With his decision, Sen. Obama now has a special obligation to make passage of comprehensive public financing of all federal elections a priority if elected. His decision today is not one that furthers reform in the short run, but his actions as president, should he win, could end the cash-and-carry system of paying for campaigns."

Democracy 21:
"Senator Obama's decision to opt out of the general election public financing system makes it all the more important for Senator Obama to personally make clear to the public in no uncertain terms that if he is elected, one of the early priorities for his Administration will be enacting legislation to repair the presidential public financing system."

Public Citizen:
"This presidential election is going to set all-time records for spending. Public Citizen can only hope that, despite Sen. Obama's decision, he will remain disgusted with private interests buying our White House and that after the campaign, he will lead the charge for a system that removes special interest money from politics."

Common Cause:
"Common Cause is hopeful that those reform-minded steps are indicative of the kind of campaign finance changes Sen. Obama would champion if he is elected President."

Brennan Center for Justice:
"Obama's decision calls attention to the need to repair the Presidential funding system and to extend public funding to Congressional candidates. Both Senator Obama and McCain have advocated reform; the next President should fix the presidential system and establish a voluntary Congressional public funding program that works to boost voter's voices."

On Thursday, Sen. Barack Obama announced that he was opting out of the public financing system, in the process forgoing "more than $80 million in public funds" for the more bountiful loot that could a...
On Thursday, Sen. Barack Obama announced that he was opting out of the public financing system, in the process forgoing "more than $80 million in public funds" for the more bountiful loot that could a...
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- Mattie I'm a Fan of Mattie 54 fans permalink

liar, liar pants on fire!
The campaign of hope and change, what joke. CNN is showing all the times he said the complete opposite. I guess it's like the Washington Post article this week where it's reported that he is telling Iraqi leaders not to listen to what he says publicly. He's just telling us that he's going to pull the troops out, he doesn't really mean it. The Prime Minister of Iraq confirmed the conversation. Can we believe a word he says, I don't think so!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 06/19/2008
- LarsGruber I'm a Fan of LarsGruber 35 fans permalink

Great comment!

True. McCain has flip flopped dozens of times!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 06/19/2008

The childish taunt "liar liar pants on fire" indictes she is not yet an Obama supporter, but it is encouraging that she sees through McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 06/19/2008
- kmac23va I'm a Fan of kmac23va 11 fans permalink

Considering our authorization for troops being in Iraq ends this year, and is unlikely to be extended (the UN won't and the Iraqis don't want to sign Bush's status of forces agreement), it really won't matter. Tell you what, when John McCain answers to using his wife's private plane for campaign purposes without repayment, as well as his own attempt to get out of public financing during the primaries (he couldn't because the FEC was hamstrung by not having a quorum), I'll listen more. Until then, the odds are this issue will be moot by Monday except in McCain's mind.

The other thing to consider: The same CNN report (assuming you meant the Lou Dobbs thing) also noted that the number of people checking the public finance box has dropped from 1/4 to 1/10. Probably a combination of people being jaded with politicians and also figuring their money was going into the smear tactics they saw. I know I've never checked that box. But here's an idea, reinvest that 85 million in something needed...hmm, how about helping the flood victims? From the same report, the RNC has outraised the DNC 2 to 1...do you think that money's not going to be thrown at Obama in attacks? And remember a lot of that money is lobbyist and PAC money...the DNC war chest will never get that high because Obama said no to accepting that money. That'd be more of a story, I think.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 06/19/2008

That should have been Huffpo's pick! Excellent ideas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 06/19/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 131 fans permalink

I guess McCain is down to his drawers by now:) He can't have anything left to burn!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 06/19/2008
- BabsfromKS I'm a Fan of BabsfromKS 14 fans permalink
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LOL - put have a very unpleasant image seared in my brain now

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 06/19/2008
- fair1234 I'm a Fan of fair1234 2 fans permalink

The prime minister of course is going to say what he wants to say none of us was in that private meeting! The truth will come out so I am not worried about it. Mccain needs to worry about his falling numbers in the polls!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 06/19/2008
- rosal I'm a Fan of rosal 357 fans permalink
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Oh mattie, you are so boring........yawn

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 06/19/2008
- LarsGruber I'm a Fan of LarsGruber 35 fans permalink

Breaking news headline: Fox just reporting that McCain loves America more!!

Well, at the very least, we know that McCain loves bribes and womanizing more. Just ask Charles and Cindy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 06/19/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 131 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 06/19/2008
- fair1234 I'm a Fan of fair1234 2 fans permalink

This was the one of the smartest decision Obama has made and the GOP is runnign scared because Obama is going to compete in a way that the GOP will be bankrupt!!! Cry Mccain and the GOP Obama owes you nothing!!!! I love this because I am sick of all of the crap and lies from the GOP and those disgusting 527 will nothave a chance now!!I will donate my whole paycheck to help Obama and so will my co-workers that support him!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 06/19/2008
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Keep the faith. There are millions of us that support him. Let the repubs cry foul. When Mcliars real war record gets out, he'll quit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 06/19/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 131 fans permalink

Let me help it get out some, if you don't mind. This is Mr. Nice Guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwTKM_u-7j4

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:26 PM on 06/19/2008
- naschkatze I'm a Fan of naschkatze 113 fans permalink

1.5 million of us. May it grow to 2 million and on. That's what I call public financing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 06/19/2008

When his real war record gets out...

Funny, are by "real" do you mean the one Dan Rather is trying to manufacture for us, similar to his attempt 4 years ago?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 06/19/2008
- BabsfromKS I'm a Fan of BabsfromKS 14 fans permalink
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I totally agree with you - except for the donating my whole paycheck part - can I get a job where you work?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 06/19/2008
- fair1234 I'm a Fan of fair1234 2 fans permalink

I can't name my company but a group of us will do a one time donation of our paycheck when we receive our bonus. It is just one pay period and it will not hurt. It will be my last donation though but it is still a lot of money. I will also volunteer here in Tampa FL on weekends to register voters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 PM on 06/19/2008
- huffy2001 I'm a Fan of huffy2001 50 fans permalink
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It cracks me up to watch the Obamatons try to spin this. After months and months of calling Hillary a LIAR, here he is pulling a classic "Clintonesque" (CM's words, not mine) move.

I am probably going to vote for him, but it never amazes me how his apostles and zealots find excuses for everything he does.

Just another pol.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 06/19/2008

Give serious consideration to supporting McCain. You've got the vocabulary. Need to work on the hysterical tone, a bit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 06/19/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 131 fans permalink

Thousands to one is not bad for Obama I must say.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 06/19/2008

No spin necessary, here's the real story:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#25273881

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 06/19/2008
- gabbyone I'm a Fan of gabbyone 4 fans permalink

Here is a Republican commercial ready to roll....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU5V3fO7B1U

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 06/19/2008
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I hope you don't think that this is some "gotcha" BS. He said he was "In favor" of public financing. Not that he would accept in the general election. So, once gain for those not that quick on the uptick. Obama said that he would consider taking public financing in the general election IF the regressive candidate agreed to do so. Has McSame agreed to do this. No. Case closed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 06/19/2008
- Mattie I'm a Fan of Mattie 54 fans permalink

Strange the video CNN just showed had him telling an audience that he has fought his whole political career for this kind of financing. Doesn't sound like that was vague at all. He definitely flip flopped. CNN has several example of him saying the opposite of what he is doing now. LOL, new kind of politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 06/19/2008
- LarsGruber I'm a Fan of LarsGruber 35 fans permalink

now the republicans are crying because not a single individual will donate money to them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 06/19/2008
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I think McCane she go on welfare and foodstamps. That ought to help.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 06/19/2008
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**I think McCane should go on welfare and foodstamps. That ought to help.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 PM on 06/19/2008
- GaNavy I'm a Fan of GaNavy 2 fans permalink

Absolutely the right decision. I favor public campaign financing, but so far every version of it that I think would really do any good has been knocked down as unconstitutional by the Supremes. And in any event, Senator Obama's campaign is pretty close to being financed by the public - at least, I suggest that no presidential candidate has ever been financially supported by so many individual donors, and please let me know if I'm wrong. Senator Obama has the right message, and - here's his secret - he has made it EASY TO DONATE - heck, if you believe in the guy, a lot of us will throw a few bucks his way when it's only a couple of clicks, and maybe a few more bucks later..... and pretty soon, we have the kind of financial muscle we need to make sure that we are heard over all the fearmongering and negativity of the Repubs.

Be honest, I'll bet a bunch of posters here at least thought about clicking through a little donation today. Heck, I sure did.

The rout is on...........................

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 06/19/2008

Welll GaNavy... from a SC Navy... :) You are absolutely right!!!! :)
Where are you stationed or are you retired??? King's Bay?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 06/19/2008
- HBeachbum I'm a Fan of HBeachbum 11 fans permalink

Except the really big donations are coming from the same old places. Guess who BHO is going to listen to ... you Mr. $25 or you Mr. $250,000 pac?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 06/19/2008

I really think he will listen to the strongest voices... which are millions of us over one big corporation.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 06/19/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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Who do you think McBu$h is going to listen to? Does he even KNOW anyone that isn't a lobbyist?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 06/19/2008
- LarsGruber I'm a Fan of LarsGruber 35 fans permalink

It'll be refreshing to have a president that doesn't take marching orders from the Saudis and Halliburton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 PM on 06/19/2008

Before the week is out. Hey got to respond to the slime machines 527s.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 06/19/2008
- awcbuddy8 I'm a Fan of awcbuddy8 8 fans permalink

It's hilarious how ridiculously ignorant people are who claim that Barack Obama is transcending the old world of politics. Puhlease.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 06/19/2008
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It is a matter of record what the GOP-supporting PACs have done by working the system.

For a good glimpse at the (relatively new) old world of politics one only need to look to Tom Delay and his TRIMPAC. Both under indictment for their shenanigans in trying to install a permanent Republican majority.
Lincoln wept.

That is the sort of politics O is trying to transcend, and more power to him. We need election reform, that's for sure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 06/19/2008
- awcbuddy8 I'm a Fan of awcbuddy8 8 fans permalink

Well, according to Barack Obama, people who write in cursive are not allowed to vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 PM on 06/19/2008
- BWonka I'm a Fan of BWonka 118 fans permalink
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It's hilarious how ridiculously ignorant people are who claim that McBu$h isn' t the same as Bu$h. Puhlease

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 06/19/2008
- Mattie I'm a Fan of Mattie 54 fans permalink

I didn't see anyone here claim that, we were talking about Obama saying one thing over and over again, and now doing the opposite. Go to CNN they have several video clips of him pledging how he would finance his campaign. Now he's doing the opposite.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 06/19/2008

Barack's a good Democrat. He says what he needs to get the support of the base of the party. Then he moves forward with positions that he needs to win the election. The base will move toward the new position with him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 06/19/2008
- Mattie I'm a Fan of Mattie 54 fans permalink

good point!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 06/19/2008

Hmm, first reaction is: dang, Repubs are going to have a field day with this. But so far I really can't understand the logic of their criticism. Take this blurb from the Wapo Trail yesterday:

"'He's broken his word,' Charlie Black, a top McCain adviser, told The Trail. 'He said he believes in the new politics, to me it sounds like the old politics.... If you're trying to change politics in America, that's a step backward.'"

Uhh, if Obama is declining public financing, which has been around for 30 years, and is the first modern candidate to do so, how is he practicing "old politics"? Sounds new to me. The power of the national committees, particularly the RNC, defeats the entire purpose of public campaign finance reform. Just because it was a "reform" system at its inception does not mean that it will always be a reform system -- that's dialectics, peeps.

Part of what bothers me about the criticism is the way people jump up in arms the minute they hear "private financing" -- (run away, watch out for the rich elitists!) Obama's private financing is unlike that of any modern political candidate in the world: 90% comes from donations of under $100. That sounds like literal public financing-- i.e. the support of the people he means to represent.

But I'm not on the Obamawagon or anything . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:21 PM on 06/19/2008

I hope you keep on analyzing, trrenaud, and come to the conclusion that Obama is a new politician.. and he is, actually, more like the original Republicans of long ago than the Neocon McCain of today....
and since they haven't been seen in several generations of Americans... he's new!
and.. I hope that we can count on your vote this November! :)

Obama 08!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 06/19/2008
- Rendon76 I'm a Fan of Rendon76 16 fans permalink
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Republicans are funny when they try to cry out fairness about raising money. Not a cent of Obama's money is from lobbyist contributions. Historically the Republicans always outspent Democrats and its funny how having an even playing field never concerned them in the past.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 06/19/2008
- HBeachbum I'm a Fan of HBeachbum 11 fans permalink

Employees of lobbyists don't count, eh? Kinda like the Chinese donations to Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 06/19/2008
- LarsGruber I'm a Fan of LarsGruber 35 fans permalink

are those the same Chinese that are drilling off of Florida??

LOL!!!

thanks for the laugh, chicken hawk!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 06/19/2008
- kcam44 I'm a Fan of kcam44 13 fans permalink
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If McCain was raising as much money as Obama, he would do the same. One million donors, sky's the limit, Obama is receiving record-breaking donations on the web...he made the right decision. Go Obama, they're jealous!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 06/19/2008
- Kakie I'm a Fan of Kakie 2 fans permalink

Let's face it...both candidates are corporate candidates, but Obama is better than McCain, who would represent 8 more years of Bush. I am voting for Obama.

That said, I am very disgruntled with both candidates...How can we expect our "broken" system to get fixed by two men who are set to refuse public financing?

Our presidency is for sale to the highest bidder...

A sad day for our nation...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 06/19/2008
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You need to understand that Obama may be new, but politics isn't. There are only so many ways to skin a (whatever) and no matter which way you go, you're inherently wrong. Especially if you're winning. Let the repubs scream, and then ask about Mcsames war record, or his stand on women's rights, or the way he talks to his wife. Cindy you have my sympathies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 06/19/2008
- gonavy I'm a Fan of gonavy 7 fans permalink

I guess I do need to say more. Tim Russert's words are not good enough here. This link shows Obamas promise to accept public funding.


http://www.commoncause.org/atf/cf/%7Bfb3c17e2-cdd1-4df6-92be-bd4429893665%7D/MDNNATIONALRELEASE.PDF

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 06/19/2008

OBAMA: Yes. I have been a long-time advocate for public financing of campaigns
combined with free television and radio time as a way to reduce the influence of
moneyed special interests. I introduced public financing legislation in the Illinois State
Senate, and am the only 2008 candidate to have sponsored Senator Russ Feingold’s (DWI)
bill to reform the presidential public financing system. In February 2007, I proposed
a novel way to preserve the strength of the public financing system in the 2008 election.
My plan requires both major party candidates to agree on a fundraising truce, return
excess money from donors, and stay within the public financing system for the general
election. My proposal followed announcements by some presidential candidates that they
"would forgo public financing so they could raise unlimited funds in the general election.
The Federal Election Commission ruled the proposal legal, and Senator John McCain (r-
AZ) has already pledged to accept this fundraising pledge. If I am the Democratic
nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to
preserve a publicly financed general election.

"combined with free television and radio time as a way to reduce the influence of
moneyed special interest"
First reason not to take Public Financing....

And also... McCain has not agreed to return all his money collected.. in fact he gladly accepted the "lay back and enjoy it" when you are getting raped because it is in inevitable Texan..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 06/19/2008
- gonavy I'm a Fan of gonavy 7 fans permalink

The donors at that fundraising party did not make that statement, therefore McCain is under no moral obligation to return that money.

That would be like McCain demading Obama return all funds he received from members of his church, during Rev. Wrights term.

There really is no hope of factual, polite discussion on this site. I am left to conclude that Obama, just like his representatives on this site, is just a liar and con man.

Good Day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 06/19/2008
- Mattie I'm a Fan of Mattie 54 fans permalink

no facts....please it confuses people!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 06/19/2008

I am going to have to put my support squarely in the Obama camp on this one. McCain is cracking me up saying that Obama can't be trusted because he has gone back on his word...
Is this McCain serious? He has gone back on his word so many times that he can't even remember what he thought when he thought it....
If the Republicans think that we are not a smarter electorate this year, they are sorely mistaken. It is up to each and everyone of us Obama supporters to make sure that the truth gets told....

Obama and his campaign know that McCain is playing the money shell game.... the RNC and the Republican 527s can spend without restraint and they will do so.... This is smart politicking for Obama, and yes my fellow Obama supporters, he is a politician, but he is the most honest politician that I have ever seen in my life... and I have lived 52 years.... This is known as using your advantages. Obama has always stayed true to his vision... Some people say he is flipping... I say he is honing... as we move to the general election, it is necessary to fill in the hollow spots... I trust him.. I do not trust McCain....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 06/19/2008

Pot (Flip-flopper McCain) is calling the kettle black, Touche and Touche again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 06/19/2008
- huffy2001 I'm a Fan of huffy2001 50 fans permalink
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So now we're injecting RACE into the race? :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 06/19/2008
- NotMcCain I'm a Fan of NotMcCain 85 fans permalink
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Public funding isn't supposed to hinder one candidate (the one who has less 527 money). Unfortunately, the 527s have been a big loophole through which unregulated money and smears have freely flowed.

If ALL campaign spending were limited to the $85 million taxpayer money, would McCain agree? Of course not. But if he did agree--no 527s, no private corporate donors, only $85 million...period...I'm sure Obama would agree, too.

Of course, the campaigns would look very, very different (and Obama would win in a landslide).

McCain only is accepting public funding to gain a "talking point" among Independents who don't know better. The REAL McCain campaign money will still be in 527s--which Obama has already rejected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 06/19/2008

Fox News is the biggest 527 out there..... we have Keith.... they have Hume, Hannity, Fox Friends, well, gosh... they have all of them 24/7 on cable television bashing Barack and Michelle... What are they so afraid of? Why do we think these people are Americans? They represent nothing of my vision of America... though, they do represent some of the reality of America... but being on Air 24/7 makes it appear that they represent ALL of America....
Wake up peoples!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 06/19/2008
- RaraAvis17 I'm a Fan of RaraAvis17 7 fans permalink

With strong support from women, blacks and younger voters, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, the apparent Democratic presidential contender, leads Arizona Sen. John McCain, expected to be the Republican candidate, among likely voters in Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania, according to simultaneous Quinnipiac University Swing State polls released today.

This is the first time Sen. Obama has led in all three states. No one has been elected President since 1960 without taking two of these three largest swing states in the Electoral College. Results from the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University polls show:


* Florida: Obama edges McCain 47 - 43 percent;
* Ohio: Obama tops McCain 48 - 42 percent;
* Pennsylvania: Obama leads McCain 52 - 40 percent.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x2882.xml?ReleaseID=1187=

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 06/19/2008
- GrainOSand I'm a Fan of GrainOSand 269 fans permalink
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Message to Senator Obama the problem with formally “signed-off on” positions that assume future climate and condition is that when the assumption is proven wrong and you have to go back on your word, you resemble a person using the truth as a yo-yo, something you can recoil. I chalk this "minor" and “understandable” fraction of an issue up to shortsightedness on your part and the part of your advisers.

That said I totally understand why you opted out because the battlefield is stacked against you in terms of the level of ill will and evil that lurks around every corner in this process. We are already seeing it. You must have maximum protection, which means a healthy budget to meet all attacks head on and with authority. You must have maximum bandwidth to make your case, to cut through the sea of delusion, indifference, and human gullibility to contrived, versus real news.

Keep on keeping on Mr. Obama, but beware the inclination that results in inappropriate forecasts of future climates and conditions that are hard to know in advance. Again, I understand the root cause of all of this, for you were humble enough not to think that your candidacy would start a mass movement for change and allow you to work outside the limits of public financing. No one saw that. The start of change we can believe in is best seen through the rearview mirror. I see it now.

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