Kerry's Vietnam Allies Go After Major Swift Boat Funder

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First Posted: 06-20-08 12:19 PM   |   Updated: 06-28-08 05:12 AM

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It is a lesson in just how persistent and irritating smear campaigns can be. Nearly four years after the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth trotted out a series of outrageous accusations about John Kerry's war record, the issue is still being litigated within the halls of politics. Only this time, it is the accusers who are on the defensive.

On Thursday, ten veterans who witnessed or served with John Kerry in Vietnam penned a lengthy letter to T. Boone Pickens - the Texas oil tycoon and major SBVT financier - taking him up on his challenge to prove false one element of that group's attacks from the 2004 campaign.

"Dear Mr. Pickens," the letter (pdf) begins, "We are the crew and individual servicemen who served on or with Patrol Craft Fast 94 in Vietnam in early 1969... Regrettably the lies of the SBVT, which you helped bankroll and apparently still defend, tarnished the sacrifices we made, called into question the medals we were awarded and challenged the very authenticity of our service... We have children and families who were deeply affected by these lies and we believe you and the SBVT whom you supported owe us and the American people an apology for the tactics you bankrolled.

"We are aware of media reports that at a dinner in Washington D.C. on November 6th, 2007, you made a public challenge that you would give a million dollars to anyone who could show that anything the SBVT said was false. We also know that Senator John Kerry, who was the skipper of the PCF-94, contacted you to take you up on that challenge. We are writing to you now as a group to accept your challenge and document how you funded lies and character assassination."

What follows, aides to Kerry say, is one of the most comprehensive conglomerations of evidence disputing the SBVT attacks. Taking on the argument that, somehow, Kerry didn't deserve his Silver Star, the signatories dispute ten "falsehoods," including the claim that Kerry chased and killed a "young Viet Cong in loincloth" (it was an actually a "man of normal military age" carrying a B-40 rocket); that he only was in combat with this one individual (there were "multiple VC scrambling to get away"); and that Kerry made a tactical error in captaining his boat that day ("there was no 'plan' to charge the bank"). The letter concludes with perhaps the most poignant and currently relevant point.

"Finally, the continued insistence that Kerry has not released his full military record is refuted by the Navy, which has publicly certified he has, and by three newspapers which have independently received signed releases and reviewed those records."

Indeed, it is important to remember that in 2004, Kerry posted military records on his campaign's website and allowed selected reporters access to his military medical records. After the campaign, he signed a 180 waiver, authorizing the release of his complete file to three publications.

At the time, the SBVT claimed they couldn't trust that this was the entire cache. No such protests were aired about President Bush's refusal to overturn Vietnam related documents. Currently, Sen. John McCain has released 19 pages of his Nave file to the Associated Press. But, as documented by Jeffrey Klein, there could be upwards of 600 pages that have not been made public.

What kind of response Kerry's Vietnam contemporaries receive from Pickens remains to be seen. The Texan, who supports McCain, said in November that he would give $1 million to anyone who could disprove a single one of the allegations made by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. Kerry took him up on the challenge, promising to donate the proceeds to the Paralyzed Veterans of America. Pickens then reneged, saying he would need to see combat films, additional military records and wartime journal. The current letter contains a 40-plus-page file of such evidence (sans combat films).

That Kerry and his allies are fighting back with such vigor four years after the fact may seem bittersweet for Democrats. Pickens, after all, does not seem poised to play as influential a role in this campaign as he did in 2004, when he invested $3 million into the SBVT ads. The outfit he was connected to this go-around - Freedom's Watch - has so far been hampered by financial problems. Meanwhile, his spokesman Jay Rosser, recently told Politico: "He is not giving anything to 527s involved in the presidential race this cycle, and has communicated that...to Republican strategists and operatives."

But for the Vietnam Vets, the SBVT attacks were not strictly political. And setting the record straight, even if Pickens is not, currently, a political lightening rod, is worth doing even four years after the 2004 election.

For them, they've wanted to clear the record for years. And have looked for every opportunity to do that," said Kerry aide David Wade. 'For some of these guys whose lives are not politics it has had a profound impact. When they saw the Pickens explanation in November they were pretty stunned by that... the crew said let us have a shot."

It is a lesson in just how persistent and irritating smear campaigns can be. Nearly four years after the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth trotted out a series of outrageous accusations about John Kerry's...
It is a lesson in just how persistent and irritating smear campaigns can be. Nearly four years after the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth trotted out a series of outrageous accusations about John Kerry's...
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- Bettysdad I'm a Fan of Bettysdad 59 fans permalink
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All Kerry had to say was "Hey! These are REPUBLICANS saying this. Everything they say is BS."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 AM on 06/23/2008
- RobtBrock I'm a Fan of RobtBrock 6 fans permalink

Pickens needs a rope.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 AM on 06/23/2008
- novowel4me I'm a Fan of novowel4me 2 fans permalink

Evidently, Pickens did not serve his country in uniform himself making his smears of Kerry all the more reprehensible. As for welshing on his commitment regarding the Swift Boat lies, what do you expect from someone with such an impoverished moral base.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 06/22/2008

Just a little footnote - T bone's son is in the Federal slammer for financial fraud. He was sentenced to five years for underhanded dealings while a commodity futures broker in Texas. I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree huh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 06/22/2008
- protagonia I'm a Fan of protagonia 80 fans permalink

Hey, Slime Pickens.

You are making money you do NOT deserve.

As big and bad as you think you are, you will one day face your maker, and your explanation will not suffice. You will forever be paddling down a flaming river of the stuff you've robbed from the Earth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 06/22/2008
- gbht12 I'm a Fan of gbht12 3 fans permalink

PICKENS! Why are these as*holes all from Texas. There is a reason. This is like the fre*king armpit of HELL.

I will be so glad when I don't have to live in god forsaken state. Bigots, Racism and religious nut-jobs live here. Along with the rich oil Corporations that Bush /McSANE wants to give TAX CUTS TO.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 06/22/2008
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John McCain is the one which needs to be swiftboated

Missing military records

crashed 5 planes

Faced multiple disciplinarian actions in Navy

didnt fall in love with America until became a POW

Republicans would have a field day with this guy if he was a Dem

T what ever his name is I dont know how he sleeps at night...people like him are the reason why Bush is in office and has desicrated the Seal of the U S

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 06/22/2008

The public must INSIST on release of the 600 or so missing pages from McSame's military record...but it will NEVER happen !!!!

It would not look too good for the GOP to have a candidate running for President, who would be "outed" as a traitor, rather than a "war hero"!!

Why, oh why, do you think, in any rational form of thinking, that McSame received medical attention in Vietnam, when his buddies received NONE ?? His admiral father's position was compromised; information was given...and people want to call this guy a "hero" ????

A much misused word in this day and age !!

The information is out there - - "seek; and you WILL find" !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 06/22/2008

Actually, under FOIA we are entitled to see those 60 mssing pages. If he has nothing to hide, why not open up the records eh John? My uncle was also a POW, held for 6 months, and trust me, he didn't get the help McCain got. The red cross sent my moms family telling us of the torture, starvation, beatings, abuse my uncle suffered. My uncle survived, with war wounds and a purple heart for bravery. I take offense at McCain passing himself off as this golden boy. Anyone who went through the kinds of torture my uncle did, would not be voting to go to war, continue a war, stay a course. This tells me, Mccain has been paid a lot of money to do so. I supported John Kerry and all the vets who got swift voted as I knew they were telling the truth. Pickens is a Bush backer, will never serve time for his crime. Rove might.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 PM on 06/22/2008
- Alecki I'm a Fan of Alecki 2 fans permalink

I am so embarrassed to have Obama as a nominee.
He has destroyed the impression of the Democratic party.

He has done everything possible to make the party look bad.
I wish he would step down so the Democrats had a chance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 AM on 06/22/2008
- Dannydel I'm a Fan of Dannydel 19 fans permalink
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Perhaps you would like to include maybe 1 actual instance of something that you allege that he has done to embarrass you or destroy the impression of our party (which to date, has been one of a weak willed gathering of losers)? I gather that you are a woman and a Hillary supporter. Either that, or you are the president of your own private Democratic Swift boat Committee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 06/22/2008

Albeit, Obama does have his flaws, however he is still by far more preferable than McCain. Does anyone actually believe that McCain would not be heavily subsidized by 527s and the GOP? Does anyone cling to the delusion that the Republicans would be as honest as to turn away wealthy stalwarts and corporate donors? If you believe that your “quality of life” today is better after seven years of Bush policies; if you are believe that prosperity has enriched your life under Bush; if you believe that the country has been well served by lasses faire economics, then by all means you should campaign overtly for Senator McCain and cease your insistent bantering of Senator Obama not living up to your principled expectations and perceptions. Otherwise, take a few steps back and look at the “big picture” rather than the immediate moral high ground beneath your feet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 06/22/2008
- protagonia I'm a Fan of protagonia 80 fans permalink

Alecki

Love your satire! You are hilarious!

Keep up the Colbert routine.

Embarrassed - LOL!

New favorite!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 PM on 06/22/2008
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That garbage doesn't play here. Take your tantrums back to hillaryis44.com.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 AM on 06/23/2008
- Alecki I'm a Fan of Alecki 2 fans permalink

Obama has no military or international experience.
With friends like Reverend Wright and William Ayers, Obama should keep quiet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 AM on 06/22/2008

Hey Alecki, How about nice big cup up shut the f*ck up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 06/22/2008
- Dannydel I'm a Fan of Dannydel 19 fans permalink
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This entire administration has zero military experience. And their feeble attempts at 'international policy', have resulted in our economy going down the drain, 4000+ young deaths in the phony, oil based invasion and the fact that the entire world now see's us as greedy warmongerers. But don't worry, Obama will fix it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 06/22/2008
- gbht12 I'm a Fan of gbht12 3 fans permalink

Can we spell TROLL!! Please don't insult our intelligence Alecki.

Go spew your garbage in the McSane campaign. They could use a few good men like you! As*hole

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 06/22/2008
- DMSmith I'm a Fan of DMSmith 17 fans permalink

Um...Alecki...do you REALLY want to get into a listing of 'friends' of John McCain over the decades? OK...let's limit it and only start with the Keating affair.

OOops. You lose! What a surprise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 AM on 06/23/2008
- yoli647 I'm a Fan of yoli647 12 fans permalink

Shame on you, your remarks does not make any sense. I am sure you are proud of Bushie and his Administration what they have done to this country and the world and what McCain will keep follow with the same. So get informed or move to Texas, ooops maybe you do live in Texas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 06/23/2008

The SBVT along with Mr. T-bone Pickens or whatever the hell his name is should be keelhauled from a supertanker for their slander against true veterans and military heroes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 AM on 06/22/2008
- charon I'm a Fan of charon 23 fans permalink

Pickens and the SBVT group are beneath contempt. To so lie and besmirch a heroic vet's record should be prosecutable on any number of grounds. It is now illegal for anyone to lay claim to a medal or award for military service that was not properly granted; shouldn't it be a greater crime to denigrate a service member's record with the intent to diminish his or her reputation? These sorry excuses for human beings, Pickens and the SBVT, should be stiffly punished with prison time as well as hefty fines to prevent this sort of unconscionable crime from going unpunished and to discourage those who in the future might be tempted to play on the public's naivety in the way these dirtbags have.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 PM on 06/21/2008

Amen!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 06/22/2008
- JackNasty I'm a Fan of JackNasty 71 fans permalink
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Pickens made a fortune with bullying, bluffing and outright liest. Why should he ever tell the truth. Facts and honesty are for the little people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 06/21/2008
- MRb1000 I'm a Fan of MRb1000 10 fans permalink

Bush and Carol Rove attack John Kerry on his veterans record because they knew he has PTSD. He did not respond for months. This is a serious illness. He could not respond because most veterans with this condition do not want to talk about their past experiences. This was very sad that they would go so low at looking at his veterans records and got this information. His wife at one time was explaining his condition then he stop her from explaining. It is something he dose not want people to know about. Like waking up on the floor screaming. It is a shame this story is not told. Maybe one day it will be told who the real John Kerry is?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 06/21/2008

WOW you need to loosen your tin foil hat a bit!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 06/21/2008

WOW! You need to grow up a bit!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 06/21/2008
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Okay well if Kerry had PTSD and he was in combat only...that means McCain who was a OW FOR 5 YEARS dosent need to be no where near the oval office

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 06/22/2008
- MRb1000 I'm a Fan of MRb1000 10 fans permalink

Well, this is not something that disqualifies anyone. America better own up to guys that serve during this war. These guys are coming home very change men and women. When the vets came back from Vietnam they did not have the welcoming the vets have now. During his time served PTSD was shown as a weakness rather than a condition. He did not have very many people to talk to then other than veterans because they went through what he did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 AM on 06/23/2008
- MRb1000 I'm a Fan of MRb1000 10 fans permalink

I bet John Mccain has PTSD because he was tortured!! Man most of you do not understand very much about veterans. I guess you never been around them. They will not talk about pass battles. It takes them to a place the do not want to every visit in their mind. So lets stop the joking. This is a serious matter. No one want to talk about this subject.

AMERICA YOU BETTER START TAKING ABOUT AMERICA'S FINEST.

A LOT OF THEM WILL BE COMING HOME AND NEED YOUR HELP AND UNDERSTANDING.

A LOT OF THEM WILL HAVE PTSD!!!!!!!

THIS IS WHY WE HAVE A LOT OF HOMELESS VETERANS THEY ARE FIGHTING THE PASS DEMONS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 AM on 06/23/2008
- gbht12 I'm a Fan of gbht12 3 fans permalink

TROLLing MRb1000

The only one in this that has PTSD would be MCSANE and YOU.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 06/22/2008
- MRb1000 I'm a Fan of MRb1000 10 fans permalink

To bad you do not understand PTSD. It nothing to be a shamed of because those are the battle wounds of a warrior that fault for his country. Most likely you know nothing about. What have you served.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 AM on 06/23/2008
- tinarm I'm a Fan of tinarm 5 fans permalink

It maybe 4 years to late, but I hope to god they make everyday of his miserable life he**. If people see him they should call him what he is in public. As far as I'm concerned anyone who associates with him is just as slimmy. That's what we should find out. Who in the rep. party helped him and who is buddies are then we can make their lives miserable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 06/21/2008

Pickens deliberately smeared our Vietnam vets for the sole purpose of keeping the oil men in charge and thus making billions in oil. The only message these people will understand is greed ... I say take all his money away and teach all the greedy bastards a lesson they will heed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 06/21/2008
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