Battle Shaping Up Over Future Of US Role In Iraq

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ROBERT H. REID | June 21, 2008 09:48 PM EST | AP

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In this Tuesday, June 29, 2004 file photo, U.S. Army tank soldiers with the 91st Combat Engineers return to Camp Victory, near Baghdad, Iraq, following a mission. The decisive battle of the Iraq war is shaping up _ not in the streets of Baghdad but in the halls of government where the future of America's role across the region is on the line. American and Iraqi officials have expressed new resolve to finish far-reaching deals that will allow U.S. forces to remain on bases across Iraq once the U.N. mandate expires at year's end. (AP Photo/Jim MacMillan, File)

BAGHDAD — The decisive battle of the Iraq war is shaping up _ not in the streets of Baghdad but in the halls of government where the future of America's role across the region is on the line.

American and Iraqi officials have expressed new resolve to hammer out far-reaching deals that would allow U.S. forces to remain on bases across Iraq once the U.N. mandate expires at year's end.

The stakes in the talks are enormous.

The outcome will shape not just Iraq for years to come _ but, more important, America's strategic position all across the oil-rich Persian Gulf at a time when Iran's influence is growing. The U.S. maintains substantial air and naval forces elsewhere in the Gulf but few ground troops except in Iraq.

A pact also would assure Arab allies that Iraq would not fall under domination by Iran, which is pressuring the Iraqis to refuse any deal that keeps U.S. soldiers here.

But critics in the United States fear it will tie the hands of the next president when millions of Americans are anxious to bring troops home. Many Iraqis, in turn, worry the deal will allow American domination of their country for decades.

With so much in the balance, the Iraqi government said Wednesday that both Washington and Baghdad recognize the need to finish the talks by July's end "to avoid any legal vacuum that may arise."

That came only days after it seemed the deal was dead. But Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said the prospects for an accord had brightened because of new U.S. flexibility after meetings in Washington.

The White House said President Bush and Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki discussed the talks Thursday via secured video teleconference and affirmed their commitment to completing the deal.

Nevertheless, the two sides remain far apart on core issues, including the number of bases where the United States will have a presence, and U.S. demands for immunity from Iraqi law for American soldiers and contractors.

Other obstacles include U.S. authority to detain suspects, fight battles without Iraqi permission and control of the country's airspace.

Iraq's parliament must sign off on the deal by year's end _ and approval is by no means certain.

Opposition to the initial U.S. demands brought together rival Sunni, Shiite and Kurdish leaders who all complain the deal would leave real power in American hands.

The oil minister, who is close to the country's powerful Shiite clerical leadership, told the British newspaper The Guardian this week that Iraq will demand the right to veto any U.S. military operation.

But American commanders believe they need such sweeping powers to protect U.S. soldiers in a combat zone.

Publicly, U.S. officials have expressed confidence they can find language that will satisfy the Iraqis on all major issues. But the negotiations are taking place against the backdrop of war and intense power struggles among rival ethnic groups in Iraq _ each with its own agenda.

The U.S. operates scores of bases throughout the country, including the sprawling Camp Victory headquarters in Baghdad, Asad air base in western Iraq and the giant air facility at Balad, a 16-square-mile installation about 60 miles north of the capital that houses tens of thousands of American troops, contractors and U.S. government civilians.

It's still unclear how many of the facilities Washington would want to keep.

If all else fails, the two sides could go back to the U.N. Security Council and seek an extension of the mandate allowing troops in Iraq.

But that could prove politically embarrassing _ and difficult _ in the waning days of the Bush administration or the early days of the new U.S. presidency.

The current standoff has its roots in events last August when leaders of Iraq's rival factions _ facing enormous U.S. pressure to resolve their differences _ signed a declaration of unity.

It included a statement that Iraq's government wanted a long-term security relationship with the United States apart from U.N. mandates, which Iraq has long wanted to end.

A few months later, Bush and al-Maliki signed a statement of principles to negotiate two agreements _ a broad security framework and a second deal spelling out the rules for the U.S. military presence.

Talks began in March but Iraqi officials were outraged over the initial U.S. demands _ especially immunity for U.S. soldiers and security contractors.

The American draft also included no firm commitment to defend Iraq from foreign invasion _ which would require U.S. Senate approval _ nor a timetable for the departure of American troops, according to Iraqi officials. U.S. officials have released few details.

After Iraqi negotiators briefed lawmakers last month, politicians from all walks paraded in front of microphones to denounce the U.S. proposals.

Some commentators likened the U.S. position to the Iraqi-British treaty of 1930, which gave Britain virtual control of the country and is widely seen here as a humiliation.

Shiite lawmaker Haidar al-Abadi, speaking for al-Maliki's party, said June 4 that "negotiations are at a standstill, and the Iraqi side is studying its options." A week later al-Maliki himself said talks had reached a "dead-end."

Aides scrambled to clarify that al-Maliki did not mean negotiations were over. But his comments reflected Iraq's resolve not to accept an agreement short of major Iraqi demands.

"We could not give amnesty to a soldier carrying arms on our soil," al-Maliki said then.

Such comments reflect each Iraqi faction's need to publicly defend Iraq's rights, amid the country's intense political rivalry.

Some Sunni groups, for example, privately favor a continued American presence as a counterweight to Iran's influence among Shiites. Yet several leading Sunni politicians signed a letter to Congress insisting on a timetable for a U.S. withdrawal _ in part to needle al-Maliki on an nationalistic issue.

Shiite parties, in turn, believe the agreement would shore up American support for al-Maliki ahead of parliamentary elections next year _ a goal they seek. But Shiite leaders are also anxious to take over full control of their country.

Meanwhile, recent Iraqi military successes against al-Qaida in Mosul and Shiite extremists in the south have convinced some Shiite politicians they don't really need America.

"Iraq has another option that it may use," al-Maliki said recently. "The Iraqi government, if it wants, has the right to demand that the U.N. terminate the presence of international forces on Iraqi sovereign soil."

 
 

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- southafrica4obama See Profile I'm a Fan of southafrica4obama permalink

They can agree to sign now. within two years, a (shia) dictator will be in power and will force our troops to withdraw

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 06/23/2008
- truthbrigade See Profile I'm a Fan of truthbrigade permalink

In the Middle East none accepts or are willing to deal with Maliki or the so called Iraqi government; as a matter of fact they are called the West's little sweet boys!!. This Iraqi "government" would not last a week without the 150,000 strong US military occupation. Anyone who remembers or manages to learn ANYTHING from Vietnam knows exactly how this Iraq fiasco will end up.

The whole world warned the US not to commit an act of aggression against innocent people, but we didn't listen. 70% of those who went to fight in Iraq in 2003 thought they're going there to avenge for 9/11; and what makes it more pathetic and shameful is that we put this criminal idiot in the W/H twice (yes twice).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 PM on 06/22/2008
- truthbrigade See Profile I'm a Fan of truthbrigade permalink

In the Middle East none accepts or are willing to deal with Maliki or the so called Iraqi government; as a matter of fact they are called the West's Catamites. This Iraqi "government" would not last a week without the 150,000 strong US military occupation. Anyone who remembers or manages to learn ANYTHING from Vietnam knows exactly how this Iraq fiasco will end up.

The whole world warned the US not to commit an act of aggression against innocent people, but we didn't listen. 70% of those who went to fight in Iraq in 2003 thought they're going there to avenge for 9/11; and what makes it more pathetic and shameful is that we put this criminal idiot in the W/H twice (yes twice).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 06/22/2008
- yappnmutt See Profile I'm a Fan of yappnmutt permalink

no worries. obambam will change everything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 AM on 06/22/2008
- watusi See Profile I'm a Fan of watusi permalink

The only thing certain in this world is change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 06/22/2008
- Krikkit See Profile I'm a Fan of Krikkit permalink

I think it is past time to end our dependence on oil companies. We need to tax them, and prevent those taxes from being passed on to consumers by regulating the price of gas delivered to the pump, indexed on some fair profit percentage.

Oil companies are reaping the rewards of oil speculation fueled by war. Enough of that!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 AM on 06/22/2008
- watchingthings See Profile I'm a Fan of watchingthings permalink

Just like Iraq should have no role in America's government, America should have no role in Iraq's government. No country should be forced to do the bidding of another......remember the ussr?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 AM on 06/22/2008
- Mercedes See Profile I'm a Fan of Mercedes permalink

Bush NEVER planned an exit strategy in Iraq because he wants to stay there until every drop of OIL is taken out of Iraq, then Iran, then Saudi Arabia.

When Obama becomes president, he is going to have an extremely difficult time to get us out of Iraq. He may be able to bring our troops home, but then there are the Bush/Cheney Halliburton and Blackwater gangs that will not want to leave Iraq. I don't think Obama can force them out since they have contracted with the Iraqi government, so the Iraqis will have to throw them out.

The ONLY way for us to stop this insanity is to stop using so much OIL. We've got to start living with the thought that there will be less OIL for our consumption.

And, yes, I'm doing my part. I stay with my cousin during the week in the city where I work, I use public transportation, and I only drive home on weekends (about a 45 mile trip-one way). Forget any kind of vacation trips in the car or by airplane. If the rest of the world has to live with less OIL, we MUST do the same thing. And those that don't, well, YOU can keep paying $4 and $5 a gallon for gas in your big SUVs and Humvees and look like the idiot fools you really are to those of us that are serious about conserving fuel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 AM on 06/22/2008
- robeson See Profile I'm a Fan of robeson permalink

Any agreement with Maliki will be considered illegitimate by most Iraqis.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 AM on 06/22/2008
- watusi See Profile I'm a Fan of watusi permalink

That is the root of the problem Maliki is an American creation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 06/22/2008
- Stokes See Profile I'm a Fan of Stokes permalink

Correction. He is the creation of the filthy rich of The New World Order.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 06/22/2008
- Ping See Profile I'm a Fan of Ping permalink


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It's not like they, the Iraqis, are going to have a say in anything that the US does in Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 06/22/2008
- Y2KCockroach See Profile I'm a Fan of Y2KCockroach permalink

You people just don't get it, do you; you stay in Iraq, you p*ss off the locals, you try to tell them how to live and they will kill you f*ckers in the night. There is no future for Americans in Iraq. This is not Hawaii; it is not the Phillipines; and it is not even the tin-pot, medieval autocracies that we prop up in the ME (Bahrain, Qatar, Oman, etc.). This is Iraq, and those people are far closer to Iran than they will ever be to the U.S. Think of it: the Mahdi army has more popular support than does the U.S. army (I am sure that the KISS army has more popular support there than does the U.S. army). There is not going to be a democracy as we know it in Iraq. There is not going to be a pro-Israel government in Iraq (that one is a real laugher). There is not going to be a population running around pretending to be happy that the U.S. is there. They want us out, and they will throw us out if we don't leave quietly. We didn't belong there in the first place, and we certainly don't belong there now. Wrap it up, shut it down, and move on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 PM on 06/21/2008
- 1differentdrummer See Profile I'm a Fan of 1differentdrummer permalink

Staying creates turmoil, leaving will create turmoil. The occupation opened what some thought was a can of worms only to find out it's a bag of snakes. Would we welcome a UK army occupying us? Why should Iraqis welcome a foreign invader? They have never been a nation except what was held together by Saddam, ever. They have been clans, tribes, sects, each hating the other. George messed up the balance of power and we don't have enough troops there to completely subjugate them. They have no history or tradition of democracy despite some people there wanting it. Can we stay there long enough for it to evolve, like maybe a century or two?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 AM on 06/22/2008
- Coyote2 See Profile I'm a Fan of Coyote2 permalink

How about they guarantee us access to oil and we guarantee them access to security?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 06/21/2008
- olivia See Profile I'm a Fan of olivia permalink

That has already happened.

Four U.S. oil companies just got no-bid contracts with the Iraqi government.

It was always always always all about profits.

Iraq is now safe for American oil barons. Our troops are not safe though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 06/22/2008
- Wilburrr See Profile I'm a Fan of Wilburrr permalink

now.... were those 'no bid' contracts awarded by Iraqi government, or the Bush administration?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 06/23/2008
- Y2KCockroach See Profile I'm a Fan of Y2KCockroach permalink

Oh, I see. That is one step up from "how about you guarantee us access to oil, and we won't murder your husbands, rape your daughters, lock up your sons, and steal it anyway". I am sure that they will be happy to strike the deal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 PM on 06/21/2008
- awcbuddy8 See Profile I'm a Fan of awcbuddy8 permalink

The Iraqis ove the US quite a bit. Unless they wanted the Hussein boys ruling their country, we should be able to build as many bases as we want.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 AM on 06/22/2008
- ftprairiedog See Profile I'm a Fan of ftprairiedog permalink

All Iraqis who collaborate with the American occupation forces should have their heads cut off and placed on a pike in the middle of Baghdad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 06/21/2008
- ErnestineBass See Profile I'm a Fan of ErnestineBass permalink

Ummmmm...wow...that's a little extreme, doncha think?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 06/21/2008
- crusty See Profile I'm a Fan of crusty permalink

Yeah. Maybe in the suburbs?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 06/21/2008
- mamacat See Profile I'm a Fan of mamacat permalink

"Battle shaping up over over future of U.S. role in Iraq."

Yes, and the battle is called the U.S. Presidential election.
Whether we will have a president who believes that the U.S. should be the biggest dick in Iraq for as long as he says so, or whether the U.S. will try to cooperate with the Iraqi people and government in returning full control of their country over to them.

Whether the U.S. will continue to spend $12 billion dollars per month of borrowed Chinese money, in a country that doesn't want us there, or whether we will gradually draw down our troop presence according to a mutually agreed upon plan, and in the process free up money to be spent on things that might actually work to improve the lot of mankind.

Bush, Cheney, and McCain obviously do not understand the issues. Hopefully, the Democrats do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 06/21/2008
- TheIndependenceParty See Profile I'm a Fan of TheIndependenceParty permalink

Nowhere in the article is there a reference to a "treaty". Weren't we at war with Iraq? We attacked them, ... ruthlessly. Have they surrendered? What did I miss here?

So if this is to be an understanding between two sovereign nations, and if military bases are to be granted us, ... is it for mutual self-protection? Do we have a treaty with Iraq? No, ... I didn't think it was that clearcut.

Sadly Bush is trying to ram through Iraq's puppet leadership what he knows he can not achieve in Congress, ... although even that is questionable with the Democratic leadership yielding to Bush on every point!

How deep in Congress did PNAC send their tentacles? Why has the Democratic Leadership, the Majority Leadership, withered before the Emperor?

A nation that defies her own laws is bereft. She will founder and she will fail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 06/21/2008
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