WaPo's Cohen: McCain More Trustworthy Because He Was Taken Captive

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First Posted: 06-24-08 04:41 PM   |   Updated: 07- 2-08 05:12 AM

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It's difficult to know whether his latest column is a part of his ongoing attempt to prove himself more ironically humorous than Stephen Colbert or if it's just another entry in the "Most Out Of Touch Columnist in America" contest, but this morning's effort from Richard Cohen truly defies description. The thesaurus simply does not list enough variations on "inane" to do the trick.

Cohen has apparently drunk deeply of the anger-arousing Kool-Aid that the McCain camp has been pimping, and is full of outrage at Senator Barack Obama for choosing to operate within a system of public financing that benefits his own campaign, as opposed to a system of public financing that benefits McCain's campaign. Cohen says that Obama has thus "moved his bottom line." There's also some straight up balderdash about "socialist realism language" that won't make any sense at all, even if you opt to have a bag of ball peen hammers dropped on your head.

And if you are wondering if Cohen is aware of McCain's long history of flipping and flopping, you'd be surprised to learn that he is, going so far as to document a partial litany of offenses:

In some recent magazine articles, I and certain of my colleagues have been accused of being soft on McCain, forgiving him his flips, his flops and his mostly conservative ideology. I do not plead guilty to this charge, because, over the years, the man's imperfections have not escaped my keen eye. But, for the record, let's recapitulate: McCain has either reversed himself or significantly amended his positions on immigration, tax cuts for the wealthy, campaign spending (as it applies to use of his wife's corporate airplane) and, most recently, offshore drilling. In the more distant past, he has denounced then embraced certain ministers of medieval views and changed his mind about the Confederate flag, which flies by state sanction in South Carolina only, I suspect, to provide Republican candidates with a chance to choose tradition over common decency. There, I've said it all.

Actually, Richard, you've missed a few items. If you really want to collect them all, you should include his reversal on Roe v. Wade, his reversal on embracing Sam and Charles Wyly, his reversal on his stance on Grover Norquist, his reversal on torture, his reversal on ethanol, his reversal on Bob Jones University, his reversal on "100 Years in Iraq," and his reversal on gay marriage. Additionally, Richard, you should clarify: when you cite his flip-flop on offshore drilling, do you mean the first one? Or do you mean today's admission that offshore drilling would only yield "psychological benefits?" Connect that keen eye of yours with the fingers that type your columns, why don't you?

Oh, and there's also that whole matter of McCain strenuously opposing the decent and honorable G.I. Bill for months, only to swoop in and attempt to take credit for it when its passage became inevitable. And why not include the little matter of McCain attempting to rip off the public through the very public finance vehicle that's currently got you at sixes and sevens?

Yes, why not? Well, the reason why not, dear readers, is because Cohen thinks McCain deserves credit in spite of all of these detriments because years ago, he was a prisoner of war.

But here is the difference between McCain and Obama -- and Obama had better pay attention. McCain is a known commodity. It's not just that he's been around a long time and staked out positions antithetical to those of his Republican base. It's also -- and more important -- that we know his bottom line. As his North Vietnamese captors found out, there is only so far he will go, and then his pride or his sense of honor takes over. This -- not just his candor and nonstop verbosity on the Straight Talk Express -- is what commends him to so many journalists.

Naturally, I have no need, want, or desire to suggest that McCain was anything less than laudably valorous in Vietnam, but I have to nevertheless point out that I've known plenty of people in this world in whom my trust has been well invested despite the fact that none of them (to my knowledge) were ever held captive in a Vietnamese POW camp. McCain will run for President in 2008 as a candidate that's completely unrecognizable from the McCain who ran in 2000. Given the numerous instances of McCain following the path of least resistance on the way to pure political expedience, I'm afraid that the only way his time as a POW relates to how "far he will go," is that it's reasonably certain that his attempts to win the White House will stop short of treason.

Having familiarized myself with Barack Obama's platform, I can report that the candidate has a very strong and overt "anti-treason" message. But Obama should definitely allow himself to be caged and tortured to satisfy Richard Cohen.

It's difficult to know whether his latest column is a part of his ongoing attempt to prove himself more ironically humorous than Stephen Colbert or if it's just another entry in the "Most Out Of Touch...
It's difficult to know whether his latest column is a part of his ongoing attempt to prove himself more ironically humorous than Stephen Colbert or if it's just another entry in the "Most Out Of Touch...
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- karela I'm a Fan of karela 103 fans permalink

I truly wish that neither McCain, nor those who are his surrogates would use his POW experience as justification for his proposed presidency. Most of us feel grateful for his service, but when it is thrown out as the reason that he would make a good president despite his onerous policies, it becomes necessary to fight back. It's sad as an American to have to do that to an American who suffered for his service, but it becomes necessary. I used to live next door to a man who was a POW in WWII. He was forced to help build the bridge over the river Kuai in a Japanese prisoner of war camp. They were beaten, starved and worked to death if they survived the diseases that were prevalent. I honored my neighbor's service but I wouldn't have chosen him for president. Most week ends he beat his wife and then held her down while he urinated on her. I am not suggesting that John McCain is that kind of man. What I am saying is that being a POW does not, in and of itself, qualify one to be a good president of the United States. For me, it's about judgemnt. If John McCain had it, he wouldn't have voted with Bush 95% of the time and his policies wouldn't be so in line with Bush's. John McCain doesn't have the judgment that I feel is essential for my president. Barack Obama does. For me, it's that simple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 AM on 06/25/2008
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I am so sick of the talking heads always looking for a downer concering Obama while McCain have a whole host of gaffes, flip-flops and untruths. Do I believe that McCain is the #1 guy for fighting the war -- heck no. I think it's time that we let the talking heads know that we the people do not feel that McCain is even worth covering us on this score. We need to get out the message that McCain can not top Obama in any category. I really need for the talking heads to stop giving a reason for 24/7 of the campaign trail without the truth. We the people have decided who we want (not to insult those that have picked McCain). McCain refuses to define hmself and have been spending way too much of my time fighting over who Obama is. Time is short and if he is not willing to disucss who he is (outside of a game show host, gaffer, liar, and prentender) he loses my vote. I DON'T CARE!!! i WANT CHANGE. i NEED MONEY FOR THE REAL NEEDS IN MY LIFE! I want a president I can trust in for all reasons. I trust in Obama to keep me safe as well as to start easing my problems. I know it won't happen quickly but it will happen and that's what I want.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 06/25/2008
- nerakami I'm a Fan of nerakami 14 fans permalink

Attention:

Being a veteran and a POW does not leadership qualities make. One has absolutely NOTHING to do with the other.... how the hell this link is being made is beyond me...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 06/24/2008
- MizLiz I'm a Fan of MizLiz 61 fans permalink
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McCain has been set up as a Sacred Cow. Everyone in the MSM has to bow before him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 AM on 06/25/2008
- Lisette I'm a Fan of Lisette 39 fans permalink
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I think McCain is a loose cannon and
and has too many negatives to be President

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 PM on 06/24/2008
- Totto I'm a Fan of Totto 43 fans permalink

He is feeble and shows signs of Alzheimer's. Has severe PTSD and uncontrolled rages. He verbally abuses his wife in public and left his first wife after she was badly injured in a car wreck. Now that's a man of character!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 AM on 06/25/2008

I've actually read comments by McCain supporters saying that he deserves to be President because of his time in Vietnam. Does that mean all other Americans held for a minimum of 4 years by our enemies deserve to become President?

The main reason I used to respect McCain was precisely because of his POW status. It bothered me that Clinton and Bush did not have real military experience. But now that McCain is using it to score points in this election, he has thoroughly cheapened it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 06/24/2008
- karela I'm a Fan of karela 103 fans permalink

If being held by your enemies for a minimum of four years makes one presidential, then the Bush administration has created a lot of them. They held approximately 500 prisoners in Abu Graib, Guantanamo and other places for that long or longer and submitted them to "harsh interrogation techniques" before they discovered that they were totally innocent. They would have released them all, but 125 of them died as a result of being our guests---two of them from being hung from the ceiling and beaten to death at Abu Graib. I think that works out to 375 innocent prisoners who according to the Washington Post's Cohen should now be presidential material. I surely hope not, because those guys don't like America any more, though many of them said they thought America was a nice place before they visited us. These are in addition to the prisoners we still hold. The trouble with torturing people to get answers is that you often get the Wrong people. Especially if you put a bounty on them so that tribal warlords have a new source of income. John McCain and George Bush think we're handling that just fine. They say that it's a terrible tragedy that the Supreme Court says the prisoners get a day in court with the right to Habeas corpus. What is America coming to when we start acting like all men are created equal?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 06/25/2008
- VOTER I'm a Fan of VOTER 195 fans permalink
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McCain has used his POW status "to score points" for ALL OF HIS ELECTION CAMPAIGNS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 AM on 06/25/2008
- MizLiz I'm a Fan of MizLiz 61 fans permalink
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Amen, cincyr.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 AM on 06/25/2008
- mgray34 I'm a Fan of mgray34 22 fans permalink
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Hahahaha....that is a great picture. I hope Move on or some 527 uses that picture in a commercial. It is priceless. He looks like Icabod Crane.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 PM on 06/24/2008
- rinpochet I'm a Fan of rinpochet 49 fans permalink

I also wonder why it is said that he would be a better president on the so-called "war on terror". What are his credentials? A POW camp? He actually has NO credentials! It is mind-boggling that no-one questions this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 06/24/2008
- GiannaX I'm a Fan of GiannaX 15 fans permalink
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He was released from captivity in 1973 and retired from the Navy in 1981. How is that relevant to the conflicts we are involved in today? It's like trying to fit a square peg, through a round hole. Ludicrous!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 06/24/2008
- Lisette I'm a Fan of Lisette 39 fans permalink
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rinpoch---you are right
Also no one questions his bipartisan credentials either.
Because he is not except for twice in 29 years.
And what is he a maverick about? No one questions that either.
And what about his illegal campaigning finances--no one questions that either

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 06/24/2008
- NoahVail I'm a Fan of NoahVail 59 fans permalink
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And his propaganda broadcasts from Hanoi? What do those make him?

http://nationalwriterssyndicate.com/content/view/349/2/

That, combined with all the crashes and fires, he seems more like a $crewup than a hero..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 06/24/2008

Huh? Not only is the statement completely ludicrous, but I can't imagine looking at that face for a whole four years or as long as it takes to complete the GOP destruction of this country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 06/24/2008

"McCain more trustworthy because he was taken captive"

That is the funniest thing I have ever in my life heard.

So, by that statement, anybody who was ever kidnapped would be the most trustworthy person anybody has known?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 06/24/2008

What does being shot down (losing his third aircraft) and being taken prisoner for five years make you anything except batsh..t crazy. This is not something to brag about -- being caught. Soldiers are not supposed to be caught. Yes, he suffered and that was horrible.

BUT HOW DOES THAT MAKE HIM QUALIFIED TO BE THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF?

IT DOESN'T.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 06/24/2008
- NoahVail I'm a Fan of NoahVail 59 fans permalink
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As my granddad would say- "That guy could mess up a boxcar with a toothpick."

Or- "He could mess up an iron wedge."

Although he did not say "mess."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 06/24/2008
- lthuedk 1 I'm a Fan of lthuedk 1 64 fans permalink
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Sure, Cohen. If anything McCain may be far less than a hero. Does Cohen bother to research anything? In fact, McCain may not have been tortured at all and quite possibly betrayed his fellow airmen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuSDwwKLYr8

And where are those missing Air Force medical documents? What is McCain hiding? Care to address this serious matter?

http://www.light-to-dark.com/Mad_McCain.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 PM on 06/24/2008

What does it have to with him trustworthy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 06/24/2008
- BEHM777 I'm a Fan of BEHM777 14 fans permalink
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Methinks Richard Cohen should retire.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 06/24/2008
- ajaye I'm a Fan of ajaye 3 fans permalink

Keen eye, eh Cohen?

I myself do not want to delve into the question of McCain's captivity as a POW, nor do I think it would be beneficial to the Obama camp to go there. I don't know if he really served honorably or with great courage, whether he maintained his dignity and strength through captivity and torture. But I'm willing to give him a pass on it, because I think it was outrageous what the Swiftboaters did to Kerry. I am more than happy that I will never confront the situation of being a POW. I agree that surviving being a POW does not necessarily show heroism, but it does show strength. The fact that he emerged to lead a successful life is a testament to him. Many others did not make it when they got home after such an ordeal. I will concede him that.

I think we have more than enough on him not to have to resort to that. The issue is not McCain's flip flops, but where does he stand NOW on the issues. If I am to take him on his word, I don't care what he said five years ago. I care what he says NOW. He says he's for oil drilling off the coast of Florida. Fine. I'm against that NOW. Don't care what he said before.

This whole flip flop thing has just become a gotcha game that cuts both ways.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 06/24/2008
- rinpochet I'm a Fan of rinpochet 49 fans permalink

He made it because he got rid of his wife who had been crippled in a car accident and married the wealthy beer heiress, Cindy. Without her money he would never have become the Senator from Arizona.

A man that would dump his wife because of her loss of looks due to an auto accident is not worthy of the office of POTUS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 PM on 06/24/2008
- MizLiz I'm a Fan of MizLiz 61 fans permalink
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What gets me is that people know about this, but they don't seem to care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 AM on 06/25/2008

This talk of McCain being a POW really gets me mad and if the people on the far right can be so blunt in attacking Obama, I would just want to ask readers the following questions.
What is the difference between McCain and the people in Guantanamo bay?
What is the difference between McCain and other prisoners in many other prisons in America?
I guess the difference and this is my opinion, is just that McCain was an American fighter jet pilot, who went to kill Vietnamese and was shot down. Is he different from any murderer who is in any of the American prisons? I should say Yes! here, because he was fighting a war and had that right to kill.
On the other hand, how does being a jail bird, qualify somebody to be a Commander in Chief? If the Republicans did not recognise John Kerry´s as a Vietnam War Hero, why would anybody want to recognise McCain´s prisoner status? He was just a prisoner and that does not qualify him for anything other than Social Benefit.
Its just pathetic that, columnists for the MSM think like 10yr old children.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 06/24/2008

What exactly is "laudably valorous" about being captured and then released?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 PM on 06/24/2008
- ebethgay I'm a Fan of ebethgay 5 fans permalink

When you put it that way, it makes Senator McCain sound like a carp.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 PM on 06/24/2008

HA! Sorry, didn't mean to. I guess I'm just asking what the poster above me is asking: What makes McCain different from the prisoners in Gitmo? And also, why does McCain's military service make him so (allegedly) exquisitely qualified for president?

Actually, historically, military men have made bad political decisions. Patton -- from slapping soldiers to wanting to rush into war with Russia. MacArthur -- he wanted to nuke the Chinese and start WWIII. (Hmmm, both wanted to rush into another war.) Now Eisenhower, he was an exception. He was a great politician. But McCain is no Eisenhower. He's more like a MacArthur.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 06/24/2008
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