WaPo's Cohen: McCain More Trustworthy Because He Was Taken Captive

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First Posted: 06-24-08 04:41 PM   |   Updated: 07- 2-08 05:12 AM

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It's difficult to know whether his latest column is a part of his ongoing attempt to prove himself more ironically humorous than Stephen Colbert or if it's just another entry in the "Most Out Of Touch Columnist in America" contest, but this morning's effort from Richard Cohen truly defies description. The thesaurus simply does not list enough variations on "inane" to do the trick.

Cohen has apparently drunk deeply of the anger-arousing Kool-Aid that the McCain camp has been pimping, and is full of outrage at Senator Barack Obama for choosing to operate within a system of public financing that benefits his own campaign, as opposed to a system of public financing that benefits McCain's campaign. Cohen says that Obama has thus "moved his bottom line." There's also some straight up balderdash about "socialist realism language" that won't make any sense at all, even if you opt to have a bag of ball peen hammers dropped on your head.

And if you are wondering if Cohen is aware of McCain's long history of flipping and flopping, you'd be surprised to learn that he is, going so far as to document a partial litany of offenses:

In some recent magazine articles, I and certain of my colleagues have been accused of being soft on McCain, forgiving him his flips, his flops and his mostly conservative ideology. I do not plead guilty to this charge, because, over the years, the man's imperfections have not escaped my keen eye. But, for the record, let's recapitulate: McCain has either reversed himself or significantly amended his positions on immigration, tax cuts for the wealthy, campaign spending (as it applies to use of his wife's corporate airplane) and, most recently, offshore drilling. In the more distant past, he has denounced then embraced certain ministers of medieval views and changed his mind about the Confederate flag, which flies by state sanction in South Carolina only, I suspect, to provide Republican candidates with a chance to choose tradition over common decency. There, I've said it all.

Actually, Richard, you've missed a few items. If you really want to collect them all, you should include his reversal on Roe v. Wade, his reversal on embracing Sam and Charles Wyly, his reversal on his stance on Grover Norquist, his reversal on torture, his reversal on ethanol, his reversal on Bob Jones University, his reversal on "100 Years in Iraq," and his reversal on gay marriage. Additionally, Richard, you should clarify: when you cite his flip-flop on offshore drilling, do you mean the first one? Or do you mean today's admission that offshore drilling would only yield "psychological benefits?" Connect that keen eye of yours with the fingers that type your columns, why don't you?

Oh, and there's also that whole matter of McCain strenuously opposing the decent and honorable G.I. Bill for months, only to swoop in and attempt to take credit for it when its passage became inevitable. And why not include the little matter of McCain attempting to rip off the public through the very public finance vehicle that's currently got you at sixes and sevens?

Yes, why not? Well, the reason why not, dear readers, is because Cohen thinks McCain deserves credit in spite of all of these detriments because years ago, he was a prisoner of war.

But here is the difference between McCain and Obama -- and Obama had better pay attention. McCain is a known commodity. It's not just that he's been around a long time and staked out positions antithetical to those of his Republican base. It's also -- and more important -- that we know his bottom line. As his North Vietnamese captors found out, there is only so far he will go, and then his pride or his sense of honor takes over. This -- not just his candor and nonstop verbosity on the Straight Talk Express -- is what commends him to so many journalists.

Naturally, I have no need, want, or desire to suggest that McCain was anything less than laudably valorous in Vietnam, but I have to nevertheless point out that I've known plenty of people in this world in whom my trust has been well invested despite the fact that none of them (to my knowledge) were ever held captive in a Vietnamese POW camp. McCain will run for President in 2008 as a candidate that's completely unrecognizable from the McCain who ran in 2000. Given the numerous instances of McCain following the path of least resistance on the way to pure political expedience, I'm afraid that the only way his time as a POW relates to how "far he will go," is that it's reasonably certain that his attempts to win the White House will stop short of treason.

Having familiarized myself with Barack Obama's platform, I can report that the candidate has a very strong and overt "anti-treason" message. But Obama should definitely allow himself to be caged and tortured to satisfy Richard Cohen.

It's difficult to know whether his latest column is a part of his ongoing attempt to prove himself more ironically humorous than Stephen Colbert or if it's just another entry in the "Most Out Of Touch...
It's difficult to know whether his latest column is a part of his ongoing attempt to prove himself more ironically humorous than Stephen Colbert or if it's just another entry in the "Most Out Of Touch...
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- SpaceCadet I'm a Fan of SpaceCadet 13 fans permalink

Richard Cohen was also the clever wit who observed back in 2003 that you had to be French to refuse to see what a glorious victory Bush had won in Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 06/24/2008
- NoahVail I'm a Fan of NoahVail 59 fans permalink
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Is he the missing Cohen brother?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 06/24/2008
- Plus15 I'm a Fan of Plus15 14 fans permalink

I also have no need, want, or desire to suggest that McCain was anything less than laudably valorous in Vietnam, but after many, many years of people uttering that disclaimer before commenting about McCain - very possibly it is stated more in Washington and on TV then the Pledge of Allegience - I have to nevertheless ask, with all due respect, exactly what in his five years as a POW prepared John McCain to be President. One reason I ask is that the GOP and his media buddies like Cohen seem to position the Presidency as John McCain's appropriate reward for being a POW.

Also it would seem that if he was tortured, physically beaten and abused for five years the cost to his body and mind would make him medically a much older man. I'd love to see a doctors opinion or research on that situation. If he is elected he'd 72 years old. So the real question is how old is 72 in tortured, physically beaten and abused years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 06/24/2008
- MissT I'm a Fan of MissT 4 fans permalink

You're so right on both points.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 06/24/2008
- gintheb I'm a Fan of gintheb 8 fans permalink

He looks like he's gonna break off some of his own teeth in that picture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 06/24/2008
- gintheb I'm a Fan of gintheb 8 fans permalink

Amen!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 06/24/2008

My thoughts exactly..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 06/24/2008
- kufu I'm a Fan of kufu permalink

And let's add another question--with all due respect--are all American servicemen held as POWs thereby qualified to serve in Congress and become Deciders?

According to McCohen, "Nothing so far in his [Obama's] life approaches McCain's decision to refuse repatriation as a POW so as to deny his jailors a propaganda coup." He might add that nothing in Obama's life approaches McCain's decision to dump his loyal, long-suffering wife for a wealthy heiress. And nothing in McCain's life (the entirety of it spent on the government payroll, including his college years) approaches Obama's decision to forgo a six- or seven-digit salary to do community work in a Chicago slum. BTW, McCohen has it wrong about "denying his jailors a propaganda coup"--McCain generously provided plenty of those.

But McCohen has one thing right: John McCain is a known quantity, at least to those who take the time to investigate his shady, secretive, corrupt, vindictive, angry, disingenuous past. Unfortunately, Cohen represents a lot of people in MSM

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 PM on 06/24/2008

Cohen, like Perry bacon, Jr. reflect the perspective that the ownership of the WaPo wants published in its paper.
Cohen is no more a journalist than George W. Bush is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 06/24/2008
- PKSSK I'm a Fan of PKSSK 15 fans permalink

You nailed it, he is an embarrasment to the journalism profession and a primary example of why the newspaper business is a dying breed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 06/24/2008
- XME I'm a Fan of XME 26 fans permalink
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Sadly, I think this is the exact reason that those who support him, do! I also think it's a part of why he gets on so many gaffes, flips and flops. He was a POW for 5 years, so somehow, that means that he OF COURSE cares about vets, despite not endorsing the GI bill, etc.

Seems to me these same people ought to be asking themselves if those 5 years as a POW makes him a very concerning candidate for president...instead they are bending over backward to defend him on every offense, for not other reason than he was a POW.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 06/24/2008
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There are some elements, quite at home at the WaPo, who support McPain for one reason and one reason only, and that is his enthusiasm to "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran."

But of course they can't say that, and McPain has so little else going for him, so they cling to the POW thing like a life raft.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 06/24/2008
- fnygy I'm a Fan of fnygy 6 fans permalink

Okay, I'm going to go ahead and say what NOBODY seems willing to say - simply surviving isn't heroic. Now, I'm not saying McCain WASN'T heroic - but since those records are sealed and I am unable to know HOW he survived his ordeal, I cannot know if he is, indeed, a hero. I make no judgments - but neither do I make assumptions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 06/24/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 125 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 06/24/2008
- naschkatze I'm a Fan of naschkatze 102 fans permalink

Well, thank you for saying that. I think Gore Vidal is going to go after him on all this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 06/24/2008

FYI, a real HERO is Vice Admiral James Bond Stockdale, who was awarded for Medal of Honor for his conduct in resisting his Vietnamese captors and for the example he set for other POWs. At the time he was shot down in 1965 (over two years BEFORE McCain), Stockdale was a Navy Captain (pay grade 0-6).

He and his wife Sybil wrote a book, "In Love and War: The Story of a Family's Ordeal During the Vietnam War," about what he and the family went through during his captivity.

Years later, he was Ross Perot's running mate, but that's another story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 06/24/2008
- rinpochet I'm a Fan of rinpochet 49 fans permalink

I agree. I always feel uncomfortable when he is called a "hero" as the only thing he did was destroy a perfectly good airplane (not the first I've heard) and got himself captured. Many others were captured. Are they all heroes? No. Would I want to go through that? Of course not but, being a POW does not equal being a hero.

I appreciate Fnygy for saying the words that no-one else dare speak!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 06/24/2008
- greginwva I'm a Fan of greginwva 3 fans permalink
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Right, the real heros are the ones who came home in flag draped coffins.You almost never hear a real combat vet even talk about their war experiance.McCain hasnt stopped since he got elected to congress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 06/24/2008

From my reading of his wartime heroics, he finally did have a breaking point-- as his N. Vietnamese captors discovered, not that I hold that against him, (who would?)as he did against his fellow captives. He did talk, after much pressure, as did the comrades he had so much contempt for who broke before him. What I don't understand is why journalists don't do their homework. What about how he tried to kill the story of his wife's addiction? He and his kingpins broke the whistleblower trying to keep that quiet, only to be so egregious in doing so, they ending up having to stage her tearful admission the day before the Phoenix paper was to print it. What if Michelle Obama had broken into her charity to steal drugs?
Between no effort to get his full military record out, no effort to get his public finance stance out, or the lobbyists in his campaign flushed out, the MSM are virtually non-investigative in this campaign. What does this infatuation come from? Access alone? they are pathetic and transparent. Or is it father love? Man-crushes? They are haters of their own generation, or worse,someone younger!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 06/24/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 125 fans permalink

He broke big time. He told everything he knew and got exemplary treatment for it. He was NOT tortured or beatened. He broke his arms from falling out of the airplane incorrectly and messed up his leg. He was in so much pain and crying the blues, he gave up so much stuff that the enemy was killing our men left and right. He is the "T" word which might get me scrubbed if I say it. And he is the main one in the senate who keeps families from obtaining the records of any POWs that might have been left there. That's because he doesn't want anybody to get hold of his records in the process which will tell the truth of his capture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 06/24/2008
- Syco I'm a Fan of Syco 4 fans permalink
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this is a joke right?
it doesn't even make sense. By the same claim Charles Manson is more trustworthy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 06/24/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 125 fans permalink

Bingo. I think he's got it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 06/24/2008
- Countess I'm a Fan of Countess 44 fans permalink

The entire mainstream media including all big shots on MSNBC excluding Olbermann have all given this to McCain which tells you a lot about their intelligence. Being a prisoner of war does not qualify you to be an expert on foreign affairs but the media right and left are too dumb to even understand this. This is why George Bush is in office and how McCain can win despite everything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 06/24/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 125 fans permalink

When the owners of these outlets tell their people NOT to say this and that and the other, they have no choice other than losing their jobs. Keith is at least the only one who tries to get the truth out. The others just scrape right over the stuff as if it doesn't even exist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 06/24/2008
- WFV I'm a Fan of WFV 13 fans permalink
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I'm sorry, but he wouldn't even be alive today if his father were not an Admiral.

I don't want to ever diminish someone's military service, but to suggest he is the better candidate because he was a POW just doesn't make any sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 06/24/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 125 fans permalink

Maybe this will make some sense. Check it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFM1xqqTX_g

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 06/24/2008
- Kynn I'm a Fan of Kynn 7 fans permalink

He would have been alive.

Because if his dad wasn't an Admiral he NEVER would have been in a plane. I doubt he would have ever been in the Naval Academy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 06/24/2008
- robXdion I'm a Fan of robXdion 186 fans permalink
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By that standard, Fredrick Douglass was more trustworthy to be President than Ulysses S. Grant in 1872.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 06/24/2008
- Tropiholic I'm a Fan of Tropiholic 20 fans permalink

right wing are so desperate you can smell it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 06/24/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 125 fans permalink

Listen to what they say about the original "songbird". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRvXEsW4Fgg&;feature=related

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 PM on 06/24/2008
- Kynn I'm a Fan of Kynn 7 fans permalink

As his torturers found out, there is only so far his honor will let him go.

Fortunately for the North Vietnamese, and unfortunately for us, his line is just the other side of 'completely selling out his personal beliefs, his country, his family, and his integrity'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 06/24/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 125 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 06/24/2008
- GrainOSand I'm a Fan of GrainOSand 269 fans permalink
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All the criminals in the prison system are to be trusted by this logic. I think I will have all 2 million of them over for milk and cookies. Captivity does not necessarily lend credibility to character. There have been many killers who found religion on death row.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 06/24/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 125 fans permalink

He can't find redemption because he gave up his soul. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTe7cuyx6J4

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 06/24/2008
- GrainOSand I'm a Fan of GrainOSand 269 fans permalink
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It is not a stretch to imagine that John McCain is not the hero maverick he postures himself to be; it is a testament to this society that we do pay homage to our soldiers until they give us reason to do otherwise. A person truly committed to the idea of defending a nation’s right to exist as a just and moral nation is to be saluted, commended, and supported by a society reaping the benefits of that service and paying the price of that service in lost life and national treasure. It is the same for any public servant, but the military and local law enforcement is unique due to the life and death aspect of their service, that is, until they cross a line of morality and justice.

Once any person crosses this line they lose respect no matter their history of military or otherwise public, service. Respect John McCain's military service, but his public service, as a member of congress is far less than heroic or depictive of the good sheriff who rode into to town and cleaned up the town of the bad people. John McCain is an ambitious and enabling town politician dirty from corruption and compromise or he is one of the main villains in this tale of American life. He who covets war and fixing the system to work for the few, the proud, the card-carrying member, cannot be good for America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 06/24/2008

Like Carla Faye Tucker who was on Death Row when The Shrub was governor of TX.

He mocked her conversion or coming to Christ, and her request for clemency. She was added to his score of some 300 executed during his time as governor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 06/24/2008
- GrainOSand I'm a Fan of GrainOSand 269 fans permalink
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I go with the Mario Cuomo’s view on the death penalty. Of course, I reserve the right to self-defense or defense of the innocent; however, as a matter of public policy, restraint is always better than a lean towards vigilantism. If someone was attempting to kill a loved one or did kill a loved one, I would want justice. In the heat of a horrific moment like that, my call for justice would be bloodthirsty and less principled in application. The Judicial system supposedly serves to provide the time and the process for the bloodthirsty aspect of revenge to subside and for justice to be served. If you are going to kill the person anyway, then let the families kill them. Barbarism is not good. The death penalty is barbaric, but so is murder. This is why this issue is a tough debate!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 06/24/2008
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I'm not sure modern psychology agrees with Mr. Coen's conclusions. And if the McCain campaign honesty thinks we will go another five months without hearing some in depth discussions about the effects of post traumatic stress disorder on TORTURE VICTIMS, and the curios fact that McCain still refuses to release his entire SERVICE RECORD like John Kerry did in 2004...

... then they are seriously deluded.

Mr. Coen makes a perfectly legitimate argument, completely out of context.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 06/24/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 125 fans permalink

http://www.ninehundred.net/~geoffmetcalf/mccain.html - more on the man who barely can keep it together.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 06/24/2008

"Sense of honor"? Is that why he sent a congratulatory telegram to Mafia kingpin Joe Bonnano, Sr., on Bonnano's 90th birthday? Is that why he has refused to release his military records (sorry, releasing 13 pages out of approximately 650 won't cut it)? Is that why he fought the POW/MIA activists from conducting any further inquiries into whether all of the POWs had been released (consider that China only just admitted to having taken an American POW to a camp in China, over 50 years after the fact)?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 06/24/2008
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