Ralph Nader, Who Asked You?

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Huffington Post   |  Rachel Sklar
First Posted: 06-25-08 07:47 PM   |   Updated: 07- 3-08 05:12 AM

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Ralph Nader

Back in Feburary, Ralph Nader suddenly announced his candidacy for the presidency. He went on Meet The Press, did the cable rounds. Then he slunk back into obscurity, because no one had really missed him and he didn't really add to the proceedings.

Now, months later, he's back, and has a beef with Barack Obama. Apparently he thinks Obama is trying to "talk white" and is playing to "white guilt" and trying not to "threaten the white power structure." Nader, who as MSNBC's First Read points out received less than 0.5% of the vote in 2004, has been widely resented by Democrats since the 2000 election, when he pulled enough votes from Al Gore to have arguably tipped the electoral balance.

The self-styled 'anti-corporate' third-party candidate is also apparently an expert on what a black American presidential candidate should be. This can be gleaned from his statement asserting that "[T]he number one thing that a black American politician aspiring to the presidency should be is to candidly describe the plight of the poor, especially in the inner cities and the rural areas." I'm not exactly sure how this could have been achieved by "coming on as black is beautiful, black is powerful" — something else he accuses Obama of not doing — but he doesn't elaborate there.

Leave aside for a moment how appalling it is for him to accuse a bi-racial American, famously the son of one white and one black parent, but also famously regarded as African American, as in the first-ever African American nominee for the presidency, as trying to "talk white"; leaving aside how he could have possibly thought his attack would not be perceived as a racial one; leaving aside how random and uncalled for those comments were, here's the thing: Who cares what Nader thinks?

It's what I wondered back in February: Who wanted him to run? Where was the demand? Who had been clamoring for Ralph Nader? As someone who is pretty engaged in watching the process, I didn't see it. Months, umpteen primaries and millions of votes later, I still don't.

That was for running for president — an office to which Nader has long aspired, with increasingly less support, but still, he did have some. But in this context it's hard to take his remarks seriously — it would be fair to critique Obama's platforms and policies on the merits without bringing race into it. But he did bring race into it, and his remarks are nothing short of smear. Never mind that his credibility is significantly affected by his own aspirations, and his seeming lack of interest in truly contributing positively to this process.

I'm sorry, where was the Ralph Nader photo op stuffing sandbags in Iowa? More generally, where has Ralph Nader been really on anything? Again, perhaps I've missed it — and it's possible — but I haven't seen him really doing much to actively try to effect change himself over the course of this election, other than wave his arms on the sidelines a bit. As an anti-poverty advocate, he could have done more for John Edwards other than start an exploratory committee the day after he dropped out, but even so, there are plenty of ways to draw attention to your issue if you are committed and passionate. There was a long period while watchers were waiting for Edwards to endorse Obama, and he could have used that time to highlight the policy differences between the two on poverty.

Yes, there's much that Nader could have done to draw attention to poverty issues — like be right. As it happens, Obama does have poverty positions — see here, subdivided for urban and rural areas. But that's actually not even the point. The point is, he lost any and all credibility the instant he dragged race into it, impugning not only Obama's worth as a black candidate but his "blackness" — an old and tired argument that I'd hoped we'd done away with a year ago. I mean, sheesh.

The sad thing is that Nader has an amazing record, 2000 and these comments aside, and is responsible for a whole lot of positive change thanks to his efforts as a consumer advocate. It's something that even Obama was gracious enough to acknowledge, saying "it's a shame, because if you look at his legacy... it's an extraordinary one." But though his stated goal of attacking poverty and helping disenfranchised black Americans may be noble, his methods of getting there are anything but.

Nader is as entitled as anyone else to speak out about this election and to flag the issues that he thinks are being overlooked — even if no one has actually asked him. But let's face it: This isn't helping. And it adds to a now well-established legacy of not helping. That's Nader's other legacy — and you know what? No one's asking for that, either.

Back in Feburary, Ralph Nader suddenly announced his candidacy for the presidency. He went on Meet The Press, did the cable rounds. Then he slunk back into obscurity, because no one had really missed ...
Back in Feburary, Ralph Nader suddenly announced his candidacy for the presidency. He went on Meet The Press, did the cable rounds. Then he slunk back into obscurity, because no one had really missed ...
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- tbone99 I'm a Fan of tbone99 107 fans permalink
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The fact that Obama 's surrogates used race to soldify the Black communtiy and he's getting 90% of their votes makes it pertinent to bring race into the discussion.If there had been no Rev Wright, no father Pleger, and no Trinity church with its Black Ten Commandments then you would be correct to wonder why someones is dragging race into the game.

But when you have an African American blogger , who organizes get out the vote for Obama's campaign keeping a tortuous wiki to keep track of incidents of racism, no matter how far fetched , then In fact its obvious that race has been placed there strategically.

And Obama's statements disparaging people like Rev Wright as stuck in the past because he takes a historical perspective of race in America is the very essence of "talking white"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 06/26/2008

You are absolutely right tbone99. The problem people have in the US is putting a historical perspective to anything. Hasn't most localities been cutting back funding in History to concentrate on Math in recent years?

Gore Vidal liked to call America "The United States of Amnesia".

Now I am going to just sit back and see how far to the right the Obama apologists are willing to see him go before they say anything. However, it's always possible that they wouldn't know a true liberal if he bit them in the As......s. The Obama people have sure bought into the hate mongering by the right wing who has always seen Nader as a threat to their 24/7 propaganda campaign. Way to go Republicrats!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 06/26/2008
- seawolf77 I'm a Fan of seawolf77 28 fans permalink

Will this guy ever go away. He's as bad as the Bushs and Clintons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 06/26/2008
- pmorlan I'm a Fan of pmorlan 5 fans permalink

Bravely said, Rachel. I'm sure almost everyone on HuffPo will agree with you especially considering that HuffPo is widely known for catering to Obama supporters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 06/26/2008
- JimR I'm a Fan of JimR 40 fans permalink

If Obama took up karate, I wonder if Nader would accuse him of "acting yellow."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 06/26/2008
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welcome back to the fold, rachel. now i can be in love with you again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 06/26/2008
- nippersdad I'm a Fan of nippersdad 29 fans permalink

I asked him. I will continue to ask him. I love Obama's rhetoric, but it has been clear that that is all it really is. He is just the DLC alternative to to the Clinton campaign and politics as usual wrapped in a shiny new package for the uninformed to drool over. A stale cake with a tasty looking new coat of frosting.

We need a Nader to rip the shiny paper off of the package and scrape the sugary coating of the old cake in order to recognize that the new package is just like the old cake we never seem to tire of having shoved down our throats.

What the columnist conveniently fails to point out is that Nader tried something new this year; he used the Edwards campaign as a proxy and was getting seventeen percent of the vote on average without the benefit of media coverage. That is why he kept a low profile during Edwards' candidacy and that is why he formed his own committee the day after Edwards dropped out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 06/26/2008
- TRex86 I'm a Fan of TRex86 217 fans permalink
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What is it about these over-the-hill guys? Nader continues to tarnish his former glory by acting like a crank and a spoiler. His disingenuous argument that there was no difference between Bush and Gore has been disproven in most spectacular fashion. Now he attacks Obama over talking "white?" What? Like Bill clinton, Nader needs to master the elder statesman role. The first principle is only to speak when spoken to. The old order giveth way to the new...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 06/26/2008
- Gogetter I'm a Fan of Gogetter 2 fans permalink
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Nader needed to get in the news; he needed some buzz. He chose the most pathetic way possible to get it. The fact that this is the only way he can get anyone talking about him, shows how irrelevant he is. I'm sure Nader has something to say on a small range of issues. But honestly, who the hell really want's him as President?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 06/26/2008
- robbie I'm a Fan of robbie 4 fans permalink

By that same token, Rachel, who asked you? Weren't you the one complaining about the media was rampantly sexist against Hillary Clinton? How did that help?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 06/26/2008
- AZM I'm a Fan of AZM 3 fans permalink

Add up all the good that Nader has done over the years.
Add up all the evil that Bush has done in the last eight years.
Nader's contributions to American society are, at best, a wash!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 06/26/2008
- jsinclair I'm a Fan of jsinclair 14 fans permalink

I'm sorry. I don't see Nader's "amazing record" over the last decade or two.

On the contrary, he's provided ZERO leadership during the corrupt and destructive Bush years. Zero leadership on the war. Zero on the economy.

But he overplayed his hand yesterday in revealing his bigotry, dogmatism and stupidity.

He is here with us again in 2008 for two reasons only: (1) to try to ruin Obama's chances and show we can't have 'democracy' with either party in "corporate capitalism", and (2) to get taxpayer money for his "campaign" (otherwise known as his "free appearances on news programs").

That's. It.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 06/26/2008

Ralph Nader is just another in a series of has beens who still live off of the glory of his past good works. His monkey wrench in the 2000 election helped force us into the national nightmare that we are all currently suffering from. Nader knew then how high the stakes were and still it did not stop him from his ego fueled mission.

He knew he had no chance, he was told of the consequences of his actions and he did not care, he effectively sold this country down the tubes to fuel his own ego. Now these comments about Obama. While I am not an Obama supporter, I feel Nader has no right at all to speak on the qualifications or motivations of a man who may not offer experience to America, but he offers something that we have a shortage of now in America-hope.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 06/26/2008

RALPH WHO?
NADER?
Uh, I never heard of him.....where's my Corvair keys......
Shoot, I'll have to drive my Pinto to work........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 06/26/2008

. Other Great websites about Nader; Click on play at http://thewomandirector.com./ AND after that go to http://www.dianeszoo.com/ralphnader.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 06/26/2008
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And the most ironic things is that these people fail to realize they are ultimately Republican pawns.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 06/26/2008
- hhkeller I'm a Fan of hhkeller 2 fans permalink

Ralph Nader speaks truth to power and Obama is total theatre.
NCLB ?
NAFTA ?
IRAQ ?
Spy on Americans Act ?
Obama is not progressive on any issue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 06/26/2008
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Spoken like a true Republican - signing Nader on to the ballet, supporting him with $$$, all in a vain attempt to try to game the system because he knows the ideas of his own party just won't do on their own.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 06/26/2008
- JimR I'm a Fan of JimR 40 fans permalink

A ballet is a performance in which people dance.

A ballot is a choice of political candidates.

Just saying—please continue!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 06/26/2008
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Nader has been the true progressive all along. Those who think Obama has a better record have simply not compared Obama's voting record to Nader's. Nader has a 40+ year proven record of Progressive accomplishment and said his first act in office would be to cancel NAFTA and the WTO. Has Obama followed suit?
http://VoteNader.org/issues

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 06/26/2008
- HansB I'm a Fan of HansB 17 fans permalink

As a foreigner, I know Nader only for one thing: he split the environmental vote in 2000, thereby giving the White House to Bush (or at least, making the election close enough for the Supreme Court to give the White House to Bush). What's more, he did it on purpose. I don't call that progressive accomplishment. Quite frankly, I think that seatbelts in cars are less important than saving 3/4 of the world's species, hundreds of millions of lives (even billions if we count future generations), and preventing total ecosystem collapse. For which, thanks to Nader, it may now be too late.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 06/26/2008
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