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First Posted: 06-28-08 12:10 PM   |   Updated: 07- 6-08 05:12 AM

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Obama Unercuts His Brand

Sen. Barack Obama is risking his brand as a political reformer, according to reports today in the Los Angeles Times and the Washington Post. In recent weeks, he has moderated or changed positions on a number of politically-charged issues, leading to criticism from demoralized Democratic activists and charges of "flip-flopping" from conservatives.

The Times reports:

In recent weeks, he toughened his stance on Iran and backed an expansion of the government's wiretapping powers. On Wednesday, he said states should be allowed to execute child rapists. When the Supreme Court the next day struck down the District of Columbia's ban on handguns, he did not complain...


..."I've been struck by the speed and decisiveness of his move to the center," said Will Marshall, president of the centrist Progressive Policy Institute...

...And Obama endorsed a compromise wiretapping bill despite stiff opposition from liberal activists. MoveOn.org, the liberal online activist group, asked its members to flood Obama's campaign office with phone calls and e-mails urging him to support a filibuster of the bill.

The changes carry some risk that Obama will diminish the image he has sought to build as a new type of leader who will change how Washington conducts business. McCain and other Republicans have used his recent policy statements to argue that Obama is a traditional politician, unwilling to take clear stands on tough issues and abandoning his principles when he finds it advantageous.


The Post reports that those who should be his strongest supporters are taking this as a wake-up call:

The switch is not without precedent. On a variety of issues, including gun control and campaign finance regulation, the presumptive Democratic nominee has shown himself willing to settle for incremental changes in the face of political reality rather than to hold out for the sweeping and uncompromising positions he initially stakes out.


But even some who should be his core constituents -- in the Democratic Party's progressive wing and the liberal blogosphere -- have taken his recent maneuvers as a wake-up call. They are warning the senator that in his quest to reach voters in the middle of the political spectrum, he risks depressing the enthusiasm of the voters who clinched the nomination for him.

"American voters tend to reward politicians who take clear stands," said David Sirota, a former Democratic aide on Capitol Hill and author of the new populist-themed book "The Uprising." "When Obama takes these mushy positions, it could speak to a character issue. Voters that don't pay a lot of attention look at one thing: 'Does the guy believe in something?' They may be saying the guy is afraid of his own shadow."

Sen. Barack Obama is risking his brand as a political reformer, according to reports today in the Los Angeles Times and the Washington Post. In recent weeks, he has moderated or changed positions on a...
Sen. Barack Obama is risking his brand as a political reformer, according to reports today in the Los Angeles Times and the Washington Post. In recent weeks, he has moderated or changed positions on a...
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- edpell I'm a Fan of edpell 3 fans permalink

Money rules D.C.

Obama has no values other than a lust for power just like Clinton and McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 06/29/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 94 fans permalink

That is the most ridiculous statement I've seen yet. Boy, when the going gets tough, it seems the tough jumps ship like scared mice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 06/29/2008
- swoosie1 I'm a Fan of swoosie1 6 fans permalink

Yes--he is very power-hungry and it is clear that he is going to have a mystery agenda once in office. Scary thought.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 06/29/2008
- ilcapo I'm a Fan of ilcapo 4 fans permalink

get used to it or you can move to some right wing country so you can feel at home

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 06/29/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 94 fans permalink

I believe we are not giving Obama any breathing room. We cannot expect him to act like a spoiled brat if he doesn't get what he wants. But it seems to me that some of you would like him to act just like that to prove something to you.

We must remember that he is only the "PRESUMPTIVE" nominee, NOT THE PRESIDENT. And until he's accepted the nomination, he's not even close to making decisions that could affect our lives one way or the other. If you're going to judge him BEFORE he gets into office, why didn't you do that with BUSH and maybe he wouldn't have GOTTEN into office in the first place.

You cannot expect Obama to be the "be-all" candidate when you allowed your president to be the "be-all" president for 8 years without speaking a word. Stop criticizing someone who wants to make a concerted change in our government for the people without giving him the opportunity to get there to MAKE the change.

Stop putting the cart before the horse. Keep your eye on what Bush is doing before we end up in another war before he gets out. Stop allowing the press to turn your attention in the WRONG direction so the REAL CRIMINALS can sneak out the back door.

Let's continue to WAKE UP AMERICA and keep our aim directed to those who are PRESENTLY doing us harm. Watch out for the ELEPHANT in the room.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 06/29/2008

No I wanted him to make a STRONG, reasonable statement against telecom immunity. He did that before he was in the national spotlight. I want to know why he is willing to compromise on an issue that he seemed to strongly advocate. If he makes strong speeches about war or energy policy, how can I be certain that he won't pursue Republican-friendly compromise on those issues too?

Obama is not defined by his political record. He is defined by the strength of his rhetoric. If he compromises his own rhetoric, then what do we left? A guy with a wife? Another pair of lawyers in the White House? Eight more years of compromise with Republicans so we don't look "weak on security"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 06/29/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 94 fans permalink

I believe we are not being told the whole story. Evidently there are reasons for his decision that we don't know about and cannot make a decision as to his actions without knowing. I believe in the man and if he says the legislation is better than the last one and our rights are upheld, I believe him. And until someone can prove otherwise, I'm going to stick to believing him. But, that's just my opinion. Not trying to impose my beliefs on anyone else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 06/29/2008
- swoosie1 I'm a Fan of swoosie1 6 fans permalink

He did it because he panders to anything/anyone that helps him along....he has no core values folks. That is why he is scary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 06/29/2008
- drzoon I'm a Fan of drzoon 15 fans permalink

i am part of a "team" in los angeles who has been very effective in going to different parts of the country and.... making it happen. we all pretty much come out of the same CD and the whole "camp obama" thing as well. and... to be clear.... we are not the Progressives.

but i can tell you this... he's in trouble even with most of us.

who cares that he is not taking public money to run. but he should have done what he has done before... just say "i've changed his mind". as for FISA? i don't know how he is going to square that one. as for guns? he didn't have to do that. he didn't have to suck up to the gun vote. as for hiding from the press? that has me more concerned than ANYTHING.

something isn't adding up. and i don't know if you noticed, but HRC was much stronger than Barack yesterday. a fact not lost on "us" anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 06/29/2008

Forgive me, but I checked your profile and read some of your earlier posts. Are you saying Senator Obama has a problem with you and your "team?" If so, why? Can Senator Obama meet all of your requirements? I agree with you re FISA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 06/29/2008
- rkrenke I'm a Fan of rkrenke 20 fans permalink

Obama is just beginning to realize how much his policy reversals are going to hurt his candidacy. There is no "center", only educating the uneducated will move this country forward.

If he was truly the smartest guy in the room, he would have addressed the FISA issue just like he did the race and Reverend Wright issues - he would have stood for the Rule of Law, defended the Constitution, and educated the misinformed as to why the "compromise" FISA legislation is a sham.

Yet, the smartest guy in the room didn't understand that there are millions of Americans who don't view defending and upholding the Constitution and their civil liberties as a "right or left" issue. This policy shift was shortsighted and ill-advised. Without a doubt, his "flip flops" will hurt more than help him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 06/29/2008
- steve12 I'm a Fan of steve12 14 fans permalink

So what are you going to do? Vote McCain? That should really help. Vote Nader? You might as well be voting for McCain. Obama is the most progressive thing out there. He will change America in a positive direction that we on the left have been hoping for, for as long as I can remember, which is awhile, I'm afraid to say.

Politics is the art of the possible. If you don't realize that, get out of the playing pen and let the big boys handle things. There are newly elected Democratic house members that are very close to losing their elections. The FISA law is one thing that they can show their constituents that they're doing something on the war on terror. I don't agree with it, but I understand it.

GET REAL PEOPLE!! GET BEHIND OBAMA or start singing hail to the chief, President McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 06/29/2008
- rzan1 I'm a Fan of rzan1 54 fans permalink

There is something that smacks of untruth in your comment. You are part of a "team" that are making it happen. You came out of the whole "camp obama" thing. I have a feeling you are not nor have ever been a true suporter of Obama. I don't think your nebulous "team" exists. Your profile also gives me pause to wonder. I don't believe you drzoon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 06/29/2008
- bija I'm a Fan of bija 5 fans permalink

Barack, we want CHANGE! Not more of the same bull!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 06/29/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 94 fans permalink

Now what will you say when Obama gets elected and is able to let you know exactly "why" he did what he had to do? Don't throw the towel in so quickly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 06/29/2008

He has proved one thing...he can lie just as well as any politician.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 06/29/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 94 fans permalink

It never ceases to amaze me how most magnify the point that Obama can lie like the best of them even though he has not been proven lying at all if you read his background and what he wishes to accomplish and how. If you want to see a real liar, turn to McCain who lies about everything but his name.

As a matter of fact, ALL HUMANS LIE for one reason or another. And MOST HUMANS change their minds for one reason or another. When you don't know the complete story of why they have changed their minds, then it is easy for you to say they have lied, which might not even be the case.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 06/29/2008

Bingo and the gullible hang on every word.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 06/29/2008

Well my enthusiasm for Obama is now over. Dont get me wrong I'll still vote for him. But I'm no longer going to contribute or do anything else extra for him. He's proving to be just another politician. I should have known it was too good to be true. A politician who sides with the people and not the corporations. I guess we should have just elected Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 PM on 06/29/2008
- steve12 I'm a Fan of steve12 14 fans permalink

Good. People like you will ensure Republican rule. If you really believe in progressive causes, you will get out of your chair and do something. If not, you condemn our futures to a world of continual war and climate change. You condemn us to the continual inaccessibility to healthcare. You condemn our inner cities to hopelessness and despair.

Hillary was pro war, pro NAFTA, pro banks, pro much of what Obama is against, so get off your duff and help change America or SHUT UP!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 06/29/2008
- ilcapo I'm a Fan of ilcapo 4 fans permalink

guess what?JFK was also a politician!surprise surprise!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 06/29/2008

I'll admit, for a while I thought Obama was a saint. Now I am sure that he isn't. He is just a regular old politician. As I say on my blog on DNC Partybuilder, I will still support him 110%. He will always be better than McCain. But I have been calling Senators and Representatives all week to vote against the FISA bill. I don't support ethanol, I think we should be using corn to feed the hungry, not power an Hummer that should be illegal. Obama and I dissagree on some things. But he will never be as bad as McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 06/29/2008

Thanks for this post. I think we (Dems) have a lot of complex issues to sort through. Obama's support of corn ethanol makes me extremely nervous about his energy policy...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 06/29/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 94 fans permalink

I think that's the problem with most people here. They have taken an unseemingly saintly conception of Obama that should not have been taken in the first place. I would never assume a human being is beyond being just that, human. He is a man. He will make mistakes, and he will change his mind, and he will act humanly. That's all everyone should feel about him and get off their high horse of believing he was above all other humans. Humans do what they need to do in cases of choice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 06/29/2008
- missviv I'm a Fan of missviv 8 fans permalink
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I was disappointed but not surprised when I read that Obama supported immunity to telecommunication companies that helped the current administration spy on Americans. I was also disappointed when I heard him apologize for the things his former reverent said. I've constantly heard people excuse both by saying that he has to make compromises to get to the presidency but I still liked to daydream about a leader who would be completely tough as nails and firm on his agenda of change regardless of what the powers that be dictated.
Obama, don't let us down. You have the potential to lose entire generations of people who are starting to believe in electoral politics and democracy for the first time in their lives. Don't screw it up.. please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 06/29/2008
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He doesn't support immunity.

But the rest of the bill, which re-asserts FISA control over wiretapping and has other good features, outweighs the civil immunity.

You might try actually researching the subject next time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 06/29/2008

The legislation was going to return FISA court control. The issue was whether the legislation would include retroactive immunity from prosecution for the telecoms. Barack could have continued to support FISA but reject a bill that contained telecom immunity.

He could have shown his leadership if he had gone straight to the American people and argued that we MUST return control of wiretap warrants to the FISA court but we CANNOT accept a bill that included retroactive immunity. He could have offered an eloquent argument that his Administration would reassert FISA authority, would have pursued wiretaps of terrorist when it is valid, but his Democratic Congress WILL NOT compromise privacy of non-terrorist Americans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 06/29/2008

Feingold was the answer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 06/29/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 94 fans permalink

Keep the faith. I am.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 06/29/2008

I'm so disappointed in Obama. I've contributed to his campaign regularly. If I thought he'd pander, I would have gladly voted for Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 06/29/2008

And Hillary wouldn't have?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 06/29/2008

Better the devil you know than the devil you don't.

We need a President that understands how Washington works, knows how to compromise without giving too much away. OR we need a President that will change the way Washington works so we don't have to compromise on anything. Hillary represented the DC insider that knows the system, knows where the bodies are buried, and can work a tough compromise. That's why the Republicans hated the Clintons so much, because they were able to compromise on policy AND move the country forward after twelve years of Reagan/Bush. Obama represented the DC outsider that didn't have to compromise because he represented a force that would define 21st Century politics.

If we are going to end up with a nominee that wants to pander or find compromise within the old Washington system, then we should get the one that has more experience. If Obama is going down the path of compromise with Republicans so they won't say he's weak on security, then they are going to take advantage of it. Just see what happened with the FISA bill...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 06/29/2008
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It really doesn't matter any longer what Hillary would have done, its all on Obama now and he is letting us down by flip flopping on our basic rights to privacy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 06/29/2008
- ckfan I'm a Fan of ckfan 86 fans permalink
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Yeah. Hillary doesn't pander . . . LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 06/29/2008
- truthyguy I'm a Fan of truthyguy 42 fans permalink

These critics speak of nothing substantive.

For me, I would welcome a change to a president who is well educated, has honest degrees earned through his hard work (rather than gifts of gentleman's Cs), has the patience to obtain all the facts, listen to opposing views and weigh the alternatives before making a decision (one based on something other than his gut or a "Higher Father" whose voice he - and only he - hears in his head) and has the courage to limit himself to a discussion of substantive issues rather than resort to personal attacks against those who disagree with his policy choices. These things that the media are calling Obama flip flops are meaningless BS. Eg.: Does it really mean anything that Obama decided to not use public financing because it limits his campaign resources? Or is it more important that he is not taking pac money?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 06/29/2008

He is full of it. Have you not listen to any of his speeches? H conned my vote from me, and now I am supposed to trust him? No way. This is passing laws, not tacking one way or the other for ignorant ears. Do you understand what he is doing?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 AM on 06/29/2008

Conned? So at what point was your vote not your choice?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 06/29/2008
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Yes, I understand it fully.

Apparently, you do not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 06/29/2008

Your aspirations regarding the personal qualities you would like to see in the next President are commendable; I agree those qualities are important and desired. I also believe on a personal level Senator Obama is superior to President George W. Bush. Yes, it is important Senator Obama is foregoing public financing. Yes, it is important he is not taking pac money (if that is the case). Some of us are just trying to ascertain why Senator Obama's supporters feel the way they do about him; and why is important to those requesting information. Information is important, more so than platitudes.

For arguments sake, I will concede Senator Obama has had an effect on raising the level of Political Rhetoric and discourse. I just want to learn about what he has achieved re results of his positions; not just what he thinks and how he has "inspired" the potential electorate (not that inspiration is unimportant, it is).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 06/29/2008

All good points, and I thank you for the response. These examples of his voting record do assist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 06/29/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 94 fans permalink

Yes, and look who the media are in the first place. The same media that has allowed Bush and his cohorts to take away our rights slowly but surely over the last eight years without letting us know what they were doing. The same media who loves to espouse their rabid beliefs on Obama all the time, but never say anything equally as rabid on McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 06/29/2008

I'm pretty sure everybody wants a President that is educated, patient, and reasonable. Bush supporters didn't sit around and say "Let's vote for the most uneducated, unreasonable, hot-headed guy on the ticket." Unfortunately they only paid attention to the reports that confirmed their opinion of the guy.

These flip flops are important because we can only judge Obama by his words, and the actions he takes to confirm the things he tells us. He does not have much of a record that we can compare against, so we have to do this in real-time. You can go back and look at the educated, reasonable arguments that he made for support of public financing. Or you can look at the strong rhetoric that he said about telecom immunity. The things he said sounded very good. But then we have to compare his words against his actions. That's where we begin to see a disconnect.

The FISA bill is the most troubling demonstration of his willingness to seek political compromise. What next? What compromises will he give when he renegotiates NAFTA? His health plan was already compromised when compared to Hillary. How many more people will be in the mandate gap once he compromises the bill with Republicans? If he compromised on FISA in order to "outthink" the Republicans so they can't slander him as weak on security, then how can we expect him to stand firm on Iraq?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 06/29/2008
- tbone99 I'm a Fan of tbone99 91 fans permalink

New and improved COKE just returned to CLASSIC , and in a smaller bottle , same price.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 06/29/2008
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New Coke sucked.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 06/29/2008
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Strange.

Both Obama and McCain are trying to appear more Conservative than their histories would indicate.

Anyone still really believe, that this country has shifted Left?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 AM on 06/29/2008
- shockmagog I'm a Fan of shockmagog 137 fans permalink
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No. The convention is that it has shifted to the right. I thought that the fact had been well established.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 06/29/2008
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It's a pendulum, still swinging to the right, but about to reach it's tipping point. The swing back to liberalism is coming.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 06/29/2008

If he's a different politician and want to get rid of the old style politics, he shouldn't be running to the center. He should stick with the message he starated with at the beginning. If he loses based on that message, so be it. It would have just indicated how ignorant the American people actually are.

However, if he loses because he is seen as just a lying politician, he has nobody to blame but himself. I was a staunch Obama supporter during the primaries. Now, it's a decision of not voting for him, writing in NOTA (none of the above), or skipping the presidential slot and moving to the senate picks. I definitely won't be campaigning for him or giving him any money unless he returns to this original message.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 06/29/2008

Which piece(s) of the 'original message' do you see him 'lying' about? I see him moving a bit toward center to attract some of the more centrist voters, and I do disagree with him sometimes, but proportionally not enough to vote for McC or to vacate my vote by either not voting or writing in NOTA. Nobody can 'get rid of ' or change the 'old style politics' without being elected first.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 06/29/2008
- 111 I'm a Fan of 111 33 fans permalink

Okay - he can have the center but he is losing the people who wanted someone who would defend the constitution and our civil liberties, the people who helped make him the Democratic nominee.

I'm relieved he did this so early. I can move on to fully support Cynthia McKinney, the Green Party candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 06/29/2008

Being a different style politician is not enough, he has to actually WIN the Presidential election to make changes.

In the primary season, Senator Obama explained his vision for America. Now that he is the Democratic Party Candidate, he has to run a campaign that represents the positions of the Democratic Party. He is the top Democratic Party representative in this election. He will unite the democratic party, and he will work to instill his vision into the democratic platform. If he wins the election, he will make the changes he can, but ultimately, we have a country that has 3 power centers--the Presidency, the Congress, and the Courts. Senator Obama is a constitutional scholar. He will work to restore the power of the Constitution.

For almost 8 years, we have had a lawless government. Senator Obama will work to restore this nation to the constitutional government and world leadership status that it has held since our nation's inception.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 06/29/2008
- NotMcCain I'm a Fan of NotMcCain 73 fans permalink
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"Obama Undercuts His Brand"

No, he doesn't.

His "brand" is "judgment".

Whether I agree on these particular issues or not, Obama's judgment and reasoning are still solid here.

Democrats aren't the party of conformist, lock-step thinking. Something McSame & Co. just can't understand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 06/29/2008

And a lot of people on the left can't understand, either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 06/29/2008

Oh pleeeease. A flip flop is a flip flop. If he's willing to flip now in order to make brownie points with the right, what makes you think he'll stand up to them if elected. By flipping on expansion of the government's wiretapping powers he's only left him-self open to be called a "politician" like any other politician. This is the ONLY (and biggest) mistake he's made during this campaign.

But he still has time to save himself. All he needs to do is say, he's "heard from the people". And he'll look like he cares about how the people of America feel about this issue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 06/29/2008
- lvogt I'm a Fan of lvogt 25 fans permalink

There are no specific contradictions or reversals in what Obama has done.
Even the campaign finance was contingent on an agreement that didn't happen.
This is a much ado about nothing.
People keep whining but there is nothing to it.
This is a lot of troll talk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 06/29/2008

Did you even read the bill or Obama's statement? You are clearly ignorant of the facts on the FISA bill. Bills are bills, and contain good and bad. The Dems (Hillary and Barack included) just signed off on a huge military spending bill - BECAUSE it also had extended unemployment and expanded GI Bill provisions in it that benefit returning veterans.

If you think Obama has just approved government illegal wiretapping, youve been watching FOX too much. Stop watching fox and read.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 06/29/2008
- shelobo I'm a Fan of shelobo 8 fans permalink

Ok ,so Obama isn't going to use public funding ( OUR MONEY),WHY are we gripeing ?He's a bit nuetral on the Gun issues ,good idea untill the Gun Activists and their lobbists monkeys start looseing the MONEY power they have in WASHINGTON .He thinks that certian laws should be left up to the states and individual citizens to decide ,death penalty ,abortion ect. when most people dispise the FEDS interfering in their state's laws and their individual rights so,WHY are we gripeing ?The gun issue has remained on the back burner in DC for years,BUT not untill this ELECTION did the Bush supreme court PUPPETS decide to do anything about changeing or upholding the second amendment ,WHY are we gripeing ?Have we questioned how many of these Judges are Republican­s/Democrat­s BEFORE this election ?It's a known fact that Judges tend to vote along the lines of the President that appointed that Judge. Maybe we should use a sportsman like view when we try to figure out WHY certian Judges rule the way they do,it's known that in the sports world that umpires tend to make choices that favor the team that is from their home base if they can't agree who should get what ,Judges like umpires usually sway towards their home team (Presidents Political Party) when they can't agree on certian laws and more so when their teams (political party affiliation)laws are weak ..they stick with the person/political party that gave them the job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 06/29/2008
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