Wesley Clark Stands By McCain Criticism

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First Posted: 06-30-08 09:14 PM   |   Updated: 07- 8-08 05:12 AM

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Despite heavy criticism, Gen. Wesley Clark is standing by his statement this weekend that Sen. John MCain's military experience doesn't qualify him to be commander-in-chief.

"I certainly honor his service as a prisoner of war," Clark said of McCain on Sunday. "But he hasn't held executive responsibility. That large squadron in the Navy that he commanded -- that wasn't a wartime squadron. He hasn't been there and ordered the bombs to fall."

That statement from Clark has come under withering criticism from McCain's campaign and was rejected by Sen. Barack Obama, both of whom (along with the media) distorted Clark's words by painting them as an attack on McCain's military service. (Notably, several U.S. veterans, including Iraq vet and VoteVets.org chairman Jon Soltz, and Lt. Gen. Robert Gard Jr. have come to Clark's defense.)

This evening, Clark issued a statement reiterating his respect for McCain's "courage and commitment to our country," as well as his belief that McCain's judgment on crucial national security issues has been deeply flawed:

"There are many important issues in this Presidential election, clearly one of the most important issues is national security and keeping the American people safe. In my opinion, protecting the American people is the most important duty of our next President. I have made comments in the past about John McCain's service and I want to reiterate them in order be crystal clear. As I have said before I honor John McCain's service as a prisoner of war and a Vietnam Veteran. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands and millions of others in Armed Forces as a prisoner of war. I would never dishonor the service of someone who chose to wear the uniform for our nation.


"John McCain is running his campaign on his experience and how his experience would benefit him and our nation as President. That experience shows courage and commitment to our country - but it doesn't include executive experience wrestling with national policy or go-to-war decisions. And in this area his judgment has been flawed - he not only supported going into a war we didn't have to fight in Iraq, but has time and again undervalued other, non-military elements of national power that must be used effectively to protect America But as an American and former military officer I will not back down if I believe someone doesn't have sound judgment when it comes to our nation's most critical issues."

UPDATE: Via HuffPost's Sam Stein, Clark appeared tonight on MSNBC's Verdict with Dan Abrams:

Clark stood by his comments late Monday night on MSNBC, apologizing only for detracting from the "bigger issues."


"I honor John McCain's character," said Clark. "As I said in the show he's been on of my heroes for a long time. He's been over to my house. This is about the qualifications to be president. It is also about the nature of politics today that a comment can be taken out of context so much to create a hullaboo."

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Clark stressed that when he initially suggested that McCain's time in Vietnam did not -- by itself -- qualify him to be president, he was speaking as his own agent and not on behalf of Barack Obama's campaign. In addition, he pointed some of the spotlight on the fact that one of McCain's surrogates in batting back the criticism was Bud Day, a member of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth organization that McCain once criticized.

"I think language of this type and this part of the discussion shouldn't be part of the campaign," he said. "I reject the idea that you take something like this and Swift Boat it all out of proportion."

Asked repeatedly by Abrams whether he was sorry for his statement, Clark did not offer an apology. He even playfully hinted that his remark couldn't have been all-too-controversial as it was first stated by CBS Face the Nation hoest Bob Schieffer: "It was a great line," he said, "I didn't make it up. It was given to me by the interviewer."

But Clark's appearance was clearly an effort to clarify the message that his earlier remark sent. And in the process, he threw in some lines of support for his candidate of choice: Obama.

"I think anybody who serves in uniform who serves their country in wartime and has gone through the hardships like John McCain should be honored for their character and courage," said Clark. "I think people look for character and courage in their pres, but I don't think you' have to have been at war to have shown character and courage. I think you can see that in other candidates. I think you can see that in Barack Obama's life."

** UPDATE BELOW ** Despite heavy criticism, Gen. Wesley Clark is standing by his statement this weekend that Sen. John MCain's military experience doesn't qualify him to be commander-in-chief. "I ce...
** UPDATE BELOW ** Despite heavy criticism, Gen. Wesley Clark is standing by his statement this weekend that Sen. John MCain's military experience doesn't qualify him to be commander-in-chief. "I ce...
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This from a failed general who was fired by prez bill clinton for nearly starting a war with the russians!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 07/02/2008
- TexasDem0 I'm a Fan of TexasDem0 36 fans permalink

Right wing slanders never have anything to do with facts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 07/03/2008
- Nebris I'm a Fan of Nebris 4 fans permalink
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Back away from the Kool Aid....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 07/03/2008

Am I the only one to see this? This is what is called a presidential campaign. We don't just put anyone who asks in office, we question their qualifications. And we obviously no longer have a working press corps of journalists capable of performing their task. They are PR people working for $$ and disinterested in serving the best interests of our country. It is criminal and wasteful. People have no where to go to learn real facts about any situation. This Clark fiasco is simply evidence of that. Where is the news? Miliary person questions qualifications of a presidential candidate? WOW, I'm going to faint. Media has become extension of GOP talking points and everyone sees that this is what they are doing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 AM on 07/02/2008
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With out that pow reseme he shoves down everyone's throat, he would be nothing (oh and also without c.indy's money and his admiral dad, he' d be greeting people ouitside wal-mart

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 AM on 07/02/2008
- danoj I'm a Fan of danoj 17 fans permalink

You may be right about the wal-mart greeter thing, but that doesn't change the fact that Wes Clark is a giant tool.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 07/02/2008

Did any of you hear General Clark today on NPR give his explanation of what he said? He actually made it worse. Even the host couldn't rationalize what he was trying to say. She read some statements he made in reference to his support of John Kerry back in 2004. These were items such as "he has heard the thump of enemy mortars" etc... He was stating that John Kerry's experience in Vietnam on the ground was a reason to support him. It would help make him a better President. Then when asked why he himself would have been a good President, he made reference to his own command of NATO. The strategic level of war was his asset. That was the difference he was referring to when he made the comparison between McCain and Kerry. The problem is that while Clark had that experience(strategic level), neither McCain nor Kerry did according to Clark's own definition. He was utterly confusing even for the host. Complete politics here. No principal. Even Kerry voted for the war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 07/01/2008

I understood exactly what he was saying. If his argument is for executive experience as a result of being in prison, that doesn't stand up. If his argument is for increased judgement (as Kerry showed as leader in war time), that won't stand up in McCain's case as he has poor judgement evident by his voting record on military issues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 07/02/2008

What! He didn't attack McCain's service. He said just becuase McCain served, that doesn't mean he's qualified to be president. The people in the media are so retarded.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 07/01/2008

Our country has no real journalists anymore, just Jr. High School mentality graduates who are cheating us of the real facts of any situation. No wonder we ended up with a dud like Bush for President and a fake war. They are hurting our country and they are not patriotic, but self serving for the almighty $$. This fabricated Clark fiasco is a case in point. I have stopped watching. It is stupidity. Did anyone see Mika Brez. on Morning Joe interrogating Clark like a war criminal by even questioning McCain's record at all? ...Mika, this is what CAMPAIGNS are for, we don't just put someone in office without questioning their qualifications. We even interview janitors for their jobs, why should the presidency be any different? She makes no sense...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 07/02/2008
- TJRich I'm a Fan of TJRich 6 fans permalink

The General is spot on! I have thought this for some time now.

Are they screaming to keep anyone from taking a closer look at the facts?

I also note that no mention is ever made of the many other POWs that were being held at the same time. Many of them are still not home. None of them had an Admiral dad. My emphasis would be on the thousands of GIs that will never come home.

Once again, when they can't dazzle us with brilliance, they try to baffle us with bull.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 07/01/2008
- robbep I'm a Fan of robbep 23 fans permalink

If they tell us that he is a war hero enough we will believe it. If they tell us that being captured by the enemy makes him a hero and qualifies him to be president we will believe it. Lets face it this election is in the US not France, you dont need a lot of facts to influence us. Americans we are a visceral people, we make decisions by our gut. In fact most of resent intellectuals or people who read books. No matter how bad we think the country going we will vote McCain because he is a patriot and Obama is not. And besides ( despite McCain's ownership of 7 homes) Obama is an elitist.

The same media who didnt fully vet the administrations cry for war is doing the same thing with this campaign. No mention of McCain being known as the songbird while in captivity. No mention of his collaboration with the Viet Cong bcz he is a war hero. No mention of his abuse of his wife bcz he is a war hero. No matter that McCain has changed his positions numerous times during the past couple of years bcz he is a war hero. Anyone who agrees with president Bush's treatment of our constitution over the past 7 years is not a patriot!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 07/01/2008
- wdw101 I'm a Fan of wdw101 20 fans permalink

he should buy 3 more houses......an even 10.......it is all good

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 07/01/2008

We're with you General, hold the line... better yet give em a next volley!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 07/01/2008
- jiwdan416 I'm a Fan of jiwdan416 2 fans permalink

I stand with Gen.Clark he supports my 2 sons 1 in Iraq and the other soon to deploy to Iraq.The chickenhawk neo-con liars cry foul!!!!but they are the ones who spread lies about true hero's.. ....Kerry and Cleland ,they have no morals just like their spin machine at Fox

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 07/01/2008
- PhDiva I'm a Fan of PhDiva 20 fans permalink

Wes Clark for VP. He's honest and courageous. I agree with everything he said, and it was wrong for Obama to betray him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 07/01/2008
- wdw101 I'm a Fan of wdw101 20 fans permalink

political wind blows they switch sides.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 07/01/2008

Obama is becoming a wimp and I'm not sure it will get him elected. I hope he knows what he is doing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 07/02/2008
- claudiam I'm a Fan of claudiam 25 fans permalink
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Clark should stand by the statement; it is true. I am also glad to see another Lt.General speak out, also Jon Soltz, on Clark's behalf. It is time for the truth and we also need to get over this 'reject and denounce' mentality. I know Barack does not like drama. He needs to let the surrogates speak out and leave it at that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 07/01/2008
- Garvagh I'm a Fan of Garvagh 11 fans permalink

Bravo, Wesley Clark! Of course you must stand your ground amidst the mudslinging by those espusing wider war in the Middle East. John McCain is either too lazy to learn what factions support which goals in the Middle East, or unable. His reliance on the application of military power to situations where such application time and again is shown to be counter-productive, revels McCain as an extremely dangerous potential occupant of the White House - - much in the mold of George W. Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 07/01/2008
- Tulka2 I'm a Fan of Tulka2 296 fans permalink
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Whether they admit it or not, the McCain campaign loves to conjour up the image of McCain in a prison cell as reason enough to put him in the oval office. That is an obvious fact that Clark noted. Wasn't W. Clark himself wounded in Viet Nam...? I didn't hear that anywhere on the idiot box yesterday.

But... it should also be noted that Clark was an active and loyal supporter of H. Clinton. Many loyal Clinton supporters on this very site have expressed the view that there is a lot of time between now and the August Democratic Convention. How interesting that Clark should require another Obama tack to the middle, eh? Does the word sabatoge mean anything to you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 07/01/2008
- lysistrata I'm a Fan of lysistrata 22 fans permalink

The General only said publicly what many thought . Why does being a former POW qualify one to become President? He did graduate near the bottom of his class and was not a very good pilot as far as we know. Patriotism is not just for people in uniform and people in uniform don't walk on water.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 07/01/2008

So where was Clark and all of the posters here defending him (I'm probably one of them) in 2004???

Kerry not only ran on his service in Vietnam he actually rode a swift boat style boat to the convention. He had vets on stage to introduce him. He saluted the crowd and said "I'm John Kerry and I'm reporting for duty".

Talk about running on your military service. I had never seen anything like it before. And don't get me wrong I think his service to the country was a great asset that he should have been proud of.

But when it's McCain (who is not touting one one-hundreth as much as Kerry) suddenly Gen. Clark has an awakening and says it doesn't make him qualified to be President.

Where was Jim Webb telling Kerry to "chill out" on the military stuff???

This is like a bad dream. This is such a losing issue for Obama he needs to tell Clark (regardless of whether he's right or wrong) to shut it and move on.

Hey if he's willing to gut the 4th amendment to get elected why not pretend to be outraged at this comment. It's certainly not beneath him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 07/01/2008
- lenoirlady I'm a Fan of lenoirlady 12 fans permalink

Another aspect of this subject is; side by side, day by day, year by year, his first wife, the one he left for the Stepford Wife, suffered as much or more from her injuries after her car wreck than this "Hero" Mccain did. That he came out alive makes him a hero?? I don't think so. That he was liberated after suffering just as his first wife did, did this make him ready to lead a nation as it's President?? I don't think so. Judgement good people, judgement , character, class and intellect is exactly what it takes and only Obama has it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 07/01/2008

Clark didnt even come up with the phrase that is driving this story. SCHIEFFER DID!

Bob Schieffer coined the phrase, Clark reiterated it (as it made his overarching point very succintly) and now Clark gets blamed for it. The coverage of this is so disingenuous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 07/01/2008
- lenoirlady I'm a Fan of lenoirlady 12 fans permalink

You are damned straight, Roomer!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 07/01/2008

And it made for a powerful point! And spoke a truth no one else has stated yet. It is not easy being a trailblazer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 07/02/2008
- Anonani I'm a Fan of Anonani 58 fans permalink
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And the truth shall set you free! A man of principle in a world of political correctness. Shocking!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 07/01/2008

So where was that "truth" and "principle" when it was Kerry doing the same thing???

I guess truth and principle only apply when trying to help your side win?

I don't think so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 07/01/2008
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