For McCain A Candidate's Military Pedigree Hasn't Always Mattered

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First Posted: 07- 1-08 02:02 PM   |   Updated: 07- 9-08 05:12 AM

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For the third straight day, Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign has raised a ruckus over comments suggesting that his military service may not, in and of itself, qualify the Senator to be commander-in-chief.

On Tuesday, the campaign hosted a conference call with reporters during which chief surrogate Sen. Lindsey Graham said that McCain was "the best-qualified person to be commander-in-chief" since a previous military-political figure: Dwight Eisenhower.

"He has walked in the shoes of those in uniform. He understands their language. He has grown up in a military family," said the South Carolina Republican, "and quite frankly his military service is extraordinary."

Raising the specter of past military service in the context of a presidential campaign can, however, be a sensitive proposition. For starters there are some purists who still hold to the George Marshall school of thought that armed forces and politics should never blend. More pointedly, McCain himself has downplayed the role that military backgrounds play in election seasons. In February 2003, the Arizona Republican said "Absolutely not," when asked whether "military service inherently makes somebody better equipped to be commander-in-chief."

"Harry Truman was in the artillery in World War I, which was magnificent," he continued. "Ronald Reagan did most of his active duty in the studio lots in California. It might be a nice thing, but I absolutely don't believe that it's necessary."

A year later, McCain cast his ballot for George W. Bush, a national guard member, over fellow Vietnam veteran John Kerry.

But a more telling example may have come more recently, when McCain found himself campaigning against one of the few Iraq War veterans who was running for office. In 2006, the Senator appeared at a late-stage but crucial fundraiser for Illinois Rep. Pete Roskam, who was being challenged by Democrat Tammy Duckworth, a veteran who had lost both her legs in Iraq. The nail-biter campaign for the open seat, which was won by Roskam with 51 percent of the vote, was marked by heated rhetoric over service and war. Roskam, who won the endorsement of the organization Veterans of Foreign Wars, accused Duckworth of wanting to cut-and-run from Iraq. McCain held his fundraiser shortly thereafter.

Now, two years later, military service is once again at the forefront of an election. And while McCain did not raise the issue himself (he can thank Gen. Wesley Clark for that), and his campaign is stressing that his POW status does not mean he is uniquely qualified for office, the Senator has not been shy in highlighting his Vietnam resume -- so much so that on Monday evening, a fellow veteran from that war, Sen. Jim Webb, urged McCain to "calm down" on his synthesis of war service and politics.

Historians say there is no precedent to help determine how much an impact this will have on the general election. In the wake of the Civil War, nearly all presidential and congressional aspirants highlighted their role in the fighting. After WWI, however, virtually none of the presidents -- save Harry Truman, who ascended to the role after FDR's death -- had veteran status to tout. Indeed, Adlai Stevenson actively highlighted his civilian status compared to Eisenhower's military pedigree, while John F. Kennedy made his time in WWII a symbolic rallying point for his campaign. Vietnam changed the dynamics, casting opponents of the war against supporters (even if both had served). And because Obama is the product of a subsequent era, it could very well make McCain's service a moot point.

"I think it is less a debate over service and more a larger debate over generational approaches to policies in general," said Dr. Jay M. Parker, a professor at Georgetown University, senior fellow at Center for Study of the Presidency and an informal Obama adviser. "When you look at how service shapes a generation, that has an effect on the way you view all political issues. And I think that is true of those of any given generation, whether they served in the military, or in the case of those coming out of the 60s, coming out of the civil rights conflicts. What were the dynamics that shaped them? I don't think you can pinpoint this as a race as someone who served in the military versus someone who didn't because the generational dynamics are so different."

For the third straight day, Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign has raised a ruckus over comments suggesting that his military service may not, in and of itself, qualify the Senator to be command...
For the third straight day, Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign has raised a ruckus over comments suggesting that his military service may not, in and of itself, qualify the Senator to be command...
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- soapington I'm a Fan of soapington 42 fans permalink
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This latest report is almost beside the point. Nobody likes this absurd and disgusting man - Republicans hate and mistrust him and know he can't win for them, and to everyone else he's a public laughing-stock. Really, I have never seen such a p*ss-poor excuse for a politician.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 07/01/2008
- hannitizer I'm a Fan of hannitizer 13 fans permalink
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Don't forget Dead-eyeDick and Georgie Boy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 07/01/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 125 fans permalink

M-ccain's military experience leaves a lot to be desired it seems. I've read some things that doesn't qualify him "at all" to be nodoby's president, let alone ours. Do yourself a favor and google v-ietnam v-eterans against m-ccain and see what comes up. A whole heap of v-eterans who do not back up his claims at all.

Investigate and get informed. Know who you are voting for before you make a terrible mistake. Don't sleep this one away because it might mean another war for sure if you do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 PM on 07/01/2008

Democrats should push for the release of McCain's military service records. Voters should know everything about the people they are going to vote for. If McCain is so proud of his record, why is he afraid of releasing them? I am telling you; there is something in his record that would disqualify him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 AM on 07/02/2008

What would McCain be running on - if he didn't have his military record? Anybody? I can't think of one damn thing that he is for or not for - that would make him credible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 07/01/2008
- jukesgrrl I'm a Fan of jukesgrrl 85 fans permalink
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If McCain didn't have his "hero" image, he'd be Jon Kyl, Arizona's other completely ineffective senator.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 07/02/2008

McBush campaigned against Tammy Duckworth? I remember when she ran for the congress in 2006, she's from Illinois and was supported by both Obama and Durbin. I also remember that the guy she ran against, and she didn't win, but was a republican leaning district, did not serve in the military, she lost both of her legs in Iraq, and the VFW endorsed her opponent instead of her. I couldn't believe it.

She's currently running the VA in Illinois. Senator Obama should have her run the Veterans Administration when he's elected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 PM on 07/01/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 125 fans permalink

He reminds me of scarborough. I don't think he respects women at all. He has that mean streak in him especially if he can call his own wife a c*nt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 07/01/2008
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 263 fans permalink
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All of McCains military experience did not help him from being duped and used by Charles Keating.

Eh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 07/01/2008
- LOL123 I'm a Fan of LOL123 2 fans permalink

That Mccain was for Peter Roskam doesn't suprise me because he's a Republican, but that he actually put his stamp of approval on this guy is something else considering Roskam served as a legislative assistant to Rep. Tom DeLay (R-Tx) (remember the scandel) is suprising....what does that say about McCain's judgement....which is what General Wesely Clark said is more important, then sitting in a plane that got shot down and he happened to be in it at the time...ok, i paraphrased the last part, but he meant that. Good judgement is what a leader needs and McCain is not the one and Bush isn't even on the grid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 07/01/2008
- nirak I'm a Fan of nirak 9 fans permalink

McCain believes only his service is important. He doesn't give a damn about anyone else

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 07/01/2008
- normathumb I'm a Fan of normathumb 25 fans permalink

Only conservatives can run on military service. The "service" of liberals is a lie. (Please note, sarcasm.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 07/01/2008
- kcam44 I'm a Fan of kcam44 13 fans permalink
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you're absolutely right...McCain has been put on a pedestal and anyone who says his military service doesn't qualify him for the Presidency is simply unpatriotic and does not honor his service.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 07/01/2008
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That's what I was thinking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 PM on 07/01/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 125 fans permalink

Yeah, and why won't he release his service records if he wants to run on his service?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 07/01/2008

He says he shouldn't have to release his full records because Kerry didn't either. Except Kerry did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 07/02/2008
- kcam44 I'm a Fan of kcam44 13 fans permalink
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As one guest on Countdown put it tonite: IT'S "POLITICAL MASS DECEPTION"..McCain wants this military stuff to stay in the news and on the forefront to keep the focus away from the real issues!!! He is weak in so many areas, he'd rather keep this story going about his military record, and have his surrogates go after the Dems and talk about how they ought to be ashamed, when in fact he knows Wesley Clark spoke the truth, he just didn't have to do it so bluntly. The media didn't come to John Kerry's defense, but they are covering this story 24/7.
McCain is a hypocrite, because they did the same thing to John Kerry, now he has someone on the campaign trail (whatever his name is) with him, this person was part of a smear campaign against John Kerry and his war record, he's now a McCain surrogate. Mr. StraightTalkExpress is no better than Obama, it's all politics as usual.

CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN..OBAMA
STRAIGHTTALKEXPRESS...MCCAIN

BOTH CANDIDATES HAVE FLIP-FLOPPED SO MUCH, THEY NEED TO LOSE THE SLOGANS

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 07/01/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 125 fans permalink

Hypocrit, please. No "e" at the end of the word which everybody wants to put there :)

As far as Obama is concerned, that's only your opinion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 07/01/2008
- loax I'm a Fan of loax 20 fans permalink

Just anpthe McBush flip flop. And this is surprising????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 07/01/2008

I don't care what any of you say. The democrats don't stand for anything. The Republicans stand for my values. This makes me so proud. I wish Sen. McCain would pick this great American as his running mate. This is historic legislation that the mainstream media has totally ignored:

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/live_from_congress_the_skull

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 07/01/2008
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Rethugs have a selective memory loss when it comes to people or issues they deem not in the same league as themselves....All this nonsenses about family values, love of country and flag pins is all retoric when it comes to them getting and having thier way ..This adminstration should held in Git-mo as enemy combatant, after allowing the ravised economy, the dollar worth less than a dollar, gas prices out of control, food prices out control, housing market in shabbles if this doesn't scream terroism. The chapter in the history books on this adminstration should be called, 'A Pratice in Hypocrisy' the s hit storm that has been the last 71/ 2. they leave office they so go into hide or go straight to jail...I vote jail

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 07/01/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 125 fans permalink

I truly don't think they'll have the nerve to stay here too long. They be heading straight to Europe or somewhere cozy to re-arm themselves for their continuous plight to "rule the world". Idiots.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 07/01/2008
- donkat I'm a Fan of donkat 2 fans permalink

MC is a one trick pony - all he's got is his so called "hero" status to run on. I don't think getting shot down and captured makes him a hero. He wasn't a good pilot. He graduated at or near the bottom of his class at West Point (or was it Annapolis), anyway, he wasn't such a great student, either. The guy loves war and even George Will tells us that if he wins, we'll certainly be in another war - with Iran.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 07/01/2008
- chriss0114 I'm a Fan of chriss0114 25 fans permalink
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Where were the Swift Boat liars when Cleland and Duckworth were being smeared?

Oh, I guess only Repugblicants who were in the military get help from them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 07/01/2008

12 of 18, baby. 12 of 18.

Here's a prediction about the Democratics. And I'm never wrong about the Democratics.

There will be a point when they can no longer make believe it isn't working.
You will know when that time has arrived because they, and you, will be saying something like
"Sure, things are much better but we wasted 3 years."

Unless, of course, one of the Bobbsy Twins is elected.
In which case, if he/she are really so stupid as to keep their campaign promises, you will be able to see the fire in the Middle East from the space station.

Posted 04:19 PM on 04/09/2008

And now it's 15 of 18 baby. 15 of 18.

From APtoday ... grudging and snarkily ...

"The White House sees the progress in a particularly positive light, declaring in a new assessment to Congress that Iraq's efforts on 15 of 18 benchmarks are "satisfactory"—almost twice of what it determined to be the case a year ago. The May 2008 report card, obtained by the Associated Press, determines that only two of the benchmarks—enacting and implementing laws to disarm militias and distribute oil revenues—are unsatisfactory."

Surely there must be room for the entire article somewhere on Huff.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 07/01/2008
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