For McCain A Candidate's Military Pedigree Hasn't Always Mattered

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First Posted: 07- 1-08 02:02 PM   |   Updated: 07- 9-08 05:12 AM

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For the third straight day, Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign has raised a ruckus over comments suggesting that his military service may not, in and of itself, qualify the Senator to be commander-in-chief.

On Tuesday, the campaign hosted a conference call with reporters during which chief surrogate Sen. Lindsey Graham said that McCain was "the best-qualified person to be commander-in-chief" since a previous military-political figure: Dwight Eisenhower.

"He has walked in the shoes of those in uniform. He understands their language. He has grown up in a military family," said the South Carolina Republican, "and quite frankly his military service is extraordinary."

Raising the specter of past military service in the context of a presidential campaign can, however, be a sensitive proposition. For starters there are some purists who still hold to the George Marshall school of thought that armed forces and politics should never blend. More pointedly, McCain himself has downplayed the role that military backgrounds play in election seasons. In February 2003, the Arizona Republican said "Absolutely not," when asked whether "military service inherently makes somebody better equipped to be commander-in-chief."

"Harry Truman was in the artillery in World War I, which was magnificent," he continued. "Ronald Reagan did most of his active duty in the studio lots in California. It might be a nice thing, but I absolutely don't believe that it's necessary."

A year later, McCain cast his ballot for George W. Bush, a national guard member, over fellow Vietnam veteran John Kerry.

But a more telling example may have come more recently, when McCain found himself campaigning against one of the few Iraq War veterans who was running for office. In 2006, the Senator appeared at a late-stage but crucial fundraiser for Illinois Rep. Pete Roskam, who was being challenged by Democrat Tammy Duckworth, a veteran who had lost both her legs in Iraq. The nail-biter campaign for the open seat, which was won by Roskam with 51 percent of the vote, was marked by heated rhetoric over service and war. Roskam, who won the endorsement of the organization Veterans of Foreign Wars, accused Duckworth of wanting to cut-and-run from Iraq. McCain held his fundraiser shortly thereafter.

Now, two years later, military service is once again at the forefront of an election. And while McCain did not raise the issue himself (he can thank Gen. Wesley Clark for that), and his campaign is stressing that his POW status does not mean he is uniquely qualified for office, the Senator has not been shy in highlighting his Vietnam resume -- so much so that on Monday evening, a fellow veteran from that war, Sen. Jim Webb, urged McCain to "calm down" on his synthesis of war service and politics.

Historians say there is no precedent to help determine how much an impact this will have on the general election. In the wake of the Civil War, nearly all presidential and congressional aspirants highlighted their role in the fighting. After WWI, however, virtually none of the presidents -- save Harry Truman, who ascended to the role after FDR's death -- had veteran status to tout. Indeed, Adlai Stevenson actively highlighted his civilian status compared to Eisenhower's military pedigree, while John F. Kennedy made his time in WWII a symbolic rallying point for his campaign. Vietnam changed the dynamics, casting opponents of the war against supporters (even if both had served). And because Obama is the product of a subsequent era, it could very well make McCain's service a moot point.

"I think it is less a debate over service and more a larger debate over generational approaches to policies in general," said Dr. Jay M. Parker, a professor at Georgetown University, senior fellow at Center for Study of the Presidency and an informal Obama adviser. "When you look at how service shapes a generation, that has an effect on the way you view all political issues. And I think that is true of those of any given generation, whether they served in the military, or in the case of those coming out of the 60s, coming out of the civil rights conflicts. What were the dynamics that shaped them? I don't think you can pinpoint this as a race as someone who served in the military versus someone who didn't because the generational dynamics are so different."

For the third straight day, Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign has raised a ruckus over comments suggesting that his military service may not, in and of itself, qualify the Senator to be command...
For the third straight day, Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign has raised a ruckus over comments suggesting that his military service may not, in and of itself, qualify the Senator to be command...
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Why not let the voters decide whether his record is relevant or not. HIs campaign needs to release his full military service and POW records so we can decide for ourselves. Let's see them, including the ones he had blocked from access. And lets see what records the Vietnamese Govt has relating to the matter. Full disclosure and the voters can get an accurate picture..it's way overdue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 07/01/2008

McCain ha his military records sealed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 07/01/2008
- moxieme I'm a Fan of moxieme 14 fans permalink

Ooops...it seems Sen. McBush FORGOT the part that you can only be a Republican with military service to play his White House war games. If this man is elected every ding-dong nation trying to makes its bones on proving to the rest of the world the have the right stuff to take on the USs going to salivating to make this man eat his words. What's that saying, "old heroes don't die, they just fade away." What, I ask you what, would induce a man, at his age, married to a beautiful, younger woman,about 25 yrs his junior, with tons of money,to run for POTUS. Something is wrong here. It is not about age discrimination and we all know it. This is, yet again, a sense of entitlement. I don't care who his opponent is. We need to really ask ourselves what his motives are. We know this man is too old to be President. What are we doing to our younger generation? I'm 54 years old and this is like a nightmare. Who is going to be inspired to action when we listen to a State of the Union address and look at him? What is wrong with the MSS? What are the consequences to you for approaching this as a real issue in this election. Are we really going to wrap this man's age up in military service in attempt to make it a political asset or a qualification? Come on!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 PM on 07/01/2008
- marijam I'm a Fan of marijam 51 fans permalink
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So, you're not supposed to run against an amputee? You're supposed to let them run unopposed? Do you see that you are being condescending? Aren't you supposed to treat an amputee with dignity and respect? How is it being respectful to not run against one? If something were to happen to McCain, say, if he got into a car wreck and lost his legs and still wanted to run for president, should Obama bow out of the race? Just asking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 07/01/2008
- 1LTUSMC I'm a Fan of 1LTUSMC 2 fans permalink

Now that's an interesting point of view marijam. I suppose it's ok to come home and find out that your spouse, who has waited faithfully for your return from war, has been gravely injured in an auto accident so you almost immediately betray her faithfullness to you and go out and get a rich trophy wife. Right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 07/01/2008
- Okieborn I'm a Fan of Okieborn 76 fans permalink

When are the Ducks going to start flying out of Mccains butt !!
My god this man cares for nothing but himself !!
Kinda reminds one of Georgie Slime Bush !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 07/01/2008

Yeah, haven't you figured the Republicans out yet?? A military record only matters if you're Republican.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 07/01/2008
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Uh huh!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 07/01/2008
- darker I'm a Fan of darker 43 fans permalink

Yes, "A military record only matters if you're Republican."
All others need not apply!

McCAIN = LOBBYISTS, CORRUPTION, KISSING UP TO BUSH & COMPANY.

No thanks, mister.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 07/01/2008
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 269 fans permalink
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But didn't Charles Keating trick Johnny?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 07/01/2008
- seenitall I'm a Fan of seenitall 9 fans permalink
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but, McCane stayed in a Holiday Inn...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 07/01/2008
- JiminNC I'm a Fan of JiminNC 300 fans permalink
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You can bet you pai for for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 07/01/2008

So in the minds of the GOP ----- McCain's "pedigree" qualifies him to be Commander-in-Chief?

Wow! Most career-oriented citizens should not have anything to worry about when it comes to having children ----- because their off-springs are set because of their specific careers AUTOMATICALLY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 07/01/2008
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Being in the service qualifies you to lead as much as a being a prison inmate qualifies you to be the warden.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 07/01/2008
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 269 fans permalink
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Ask Lee Harvey Oswald, US Marine Corp, that

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 07/01/2008
- 1LTUSMC I'm a Fan of 1LTUSMC 2 fans permalink

Ouch!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 07/01/2008
- pfc1369 I'm a Fan of pfc1369 121 fans permalink
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What more do you want?

Remember when Bush met with the amputee vet and told him, "Don't worry buddy, we're gonna git you a new leg!" ???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 07/01/2008
- emcd I'm a Fan of emcd 9 fans permalink

Even being a general in command of a theater of action in no way qualifies you to run the country. It's not the service, it's the judgement you possess.

They may cite Eisenhower as a postiive example. I would cite General Douglas MacArthur. I don't think anyone who knows even the least little bit about him would want him to be president.

Webb is right, McC should just take this useless rhetoric down a few notches!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 07/01/2008
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Somehow people seem to think "commander-in-chief" is synonymous with "president". It is but one element of the job. Even IF McCain was the bestest potential commander-in-chief out there, there are dozens of other big problems facing this country which have nothing to do with the military and military leadership skills!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 07/01/2008
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You are right, of course.

But since the propaganda has been catapulted now for decades, the public uses the terms interchangably.

It's called the militarization of society, and includes the cops, entertainment, all politics, and the media.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 AM on 07/02/2008
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Another example would be Ulysses S. Grant. Good general, terrible politician.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 07/01/2008

Think about it:::: McCain's family business is "WAR", and has been without interruption for at least 3 generations, since WWI. Should tell you something about where he wants to take this country. Along with the treacherous neocons belonging to the "Project for the New American Century.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 07/01/2008
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MC CAIN IS AS SHARP AS A MARBLE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 07/01/2008
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marshmallow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 PM on 07/01/2008
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I would say veteran status is incumbent upon a politician who is a fierce fireside war advocate. The draft dodgers in the present regime, plus all their cheerleaders who hid under the bed when it was their turn to defeat the Huns, position themselves as supporters of war not by other means but by other citizens.

"Let's you and them fight," is their stirring breathumping bromide. Citizen McKane is the first candidate in a while to come down the pike from that side who has served, and he never has mentioned the chicken hawks in his own party. Only now does he slander Obama on that score.

Yeah, well, old man, Obama didn't deal this mess. You and your moron mentor did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 07/01/2008
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Article 2 of the Constitution stipulates the only qualifications to become President of the United States. Every other issue debated are just considerations for performance while on the job. McCain's military credentials and experiences provide great insight and should be heavily weighed. Same is true for Obama's experience in the Illinois and US Senate. Both men have backgrounds that lead me to believe they can succeed as President.

It is sad to read so many of you speak poorly of both candidates who have done outstanding things in their lives. Most of us didn't attend Harvard Law or the Hanoi Hilton. Both of those educations molded the men we see before us today and we should celebrate not bemoan such achievements. It's a great time in American history to have such great men seeking the highest office in the land.

This blog should be a chance to debate the difficult policies that lay before us. Instead it looks to be a place for Obama supporters to use off-handed remarks to mutually destroy a person because of political expediency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 07/01/2008
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