Obama's Faux Flip-Flop: He Hasn't Shifted On Iraq (At Least Not Yet)

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First Posted: 07- 1-08 10:44 AM   |   Updated: 07- 9-08 05:12 AM

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This Sunday, I couldn't help but notice that a bit of a long con was being set up in advance of Senator Barack Obama's trip to Iraq.

Obama has recently announced his intent to visit Iraq to take stock in the conditions on the ground, and the GOP has already come up with a plan: when Obama returns from Iraq, the position he has taken on withdrawal for these many months of the Democratic primary - in which we extricate ourselves gradually and carefully in a sixteen month process - will be sold as a new idea, a tack toward the Bush/McCain policy of eternal war and a flip-flop on his current stand.

Apparently, this isn't simply an issue of my own personal paranoia, because this morning, The Atlantic's Marc Ambinder is echoing my concerns. Of course, the only people suggesting that Obama has ever called for an "immediate" withdrawal are McCain and his partisans in the media. Obama's plan has been rather clearly stated for some time, now: a gradual, 16-month withdrawal from Iraq. But for McCain, it's a matter of numbers. On June 3rd, Rassmussen Reports published the results of a survey that found that public support for withdrawal from Iraq, while in slight decline, was still quite solid:

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 59% of Americans want the troops brought home from Iraq within a year. That's down three points from a month ago and is the lowest number calling for troops to come home since March. Looked at from a longer perspective, however, there has been little change in attitudes towards a troop withdrawal since tracking of this question began last August.

With that sort of support lining up against McCain's stated intention to prolong the war ad infinitum, it becomes clear that at some point, McCain's not going to build a winning coalition of voters unless he can win the votes of a certain number of people who don't, and won't, support him on Iraq. Convincing the public that Obama is not going to deliver on the withdrawal for which there is broad public support is one way McCain can offset these deficits.

Of course, there's an element to this that sounds daffy. Obama's been only too clear in his support for a phased withdrawal plan over the course of sixteen months. So how will it come to be that McCain's furtive, and fundamentally false, "flip-flop" spin supposed to get any traction? In all likelihood, it will gain momentum, and (God forbid) acceptance, the same way the Iraq War did - on the back of some spectacularly bad reporting.

And, arriving right on time is a fresh example: George Packer's recent piece for the New Yorker. Packer's perfectly aware that Obama's plan is to call for a 16-month gradual withdrawal - he notes this in the piece's second paragraph. And yet, Obama has an "Iraq Problem," and, in the offing, is a coming "recalibrat[ion of] his stance on Iraq." But check out the underpinnings of Packer's case: from nearly stem-to-stern, there are examples of assertions that are fundamentally incorrect. Beginning with this:

In February, 2007, when Barack Obama declared that he was running for President, violence in Iraq had reached apocalyptic levels, and he based his candidacy, in part, on a bold promise to begin a rapid withdrawal of American forces upon taking office. At the time, this pledge represented conventional thinking among Democrats and was guaranteed to play well with primary voters.

In actuality, Obama was not a "proponent of the rapid withdrawal of American forces" during much of 2007, and such proposals were not anywhere close to being the "conventional thinking among Democrats." In September of 2007, the New York Times took stock of the three Democratic frontrunners - Obama, Clinton, and Edwards - and found that Iraq withdrawal was far from their minds:

John Edwards, the former North Carolina senator, would keep troops in the region to intervene in an Iraqi genocide and be prepared for military action if violence spills into other countries. Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York would leave residual forces to fight terrorism and to stabilize the Kurdish region in the north. And Senator Barack Obama of Illinois would leave a military presence of as-yet unspecified size in Iraq to provide security for American personnel, fight terrorism and train Iraqis.

Obama's "sixteen month" plan was enunciated by the candidate later, and represented a "move to the voters'" mindset. With that in mind, it's just weird that Packer believes that "In hindsight, it was a mistake--an understandable one, given the nature of the media and of Presidential politics today--for Obama to offer such a specific timetable." But a sizable majority of the electorate - 59% - wants our forces withdrawn within a year! That means Obama's position isn't a mistake, it's prescience.

Why, then, does Packer seem to caution against it, and predict a change in tone from Obama on Iraq? He seems to be of the belief that Iraq is "stabilizing," a conclusion that you can only reach by ignoring a multitude of facts.

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Packer: "The improved conditions can be attributed, in increasing order of importance, to President Bush's surge, the change in military strategy under General David Petraeus, the turning of Sunni tribes against Al Qaeda, the Sadr militia's unilateral ceasefire, and the great historical luck that brought them all together at the same moment."

But Packer ignores the fact that the reduction in violence was mainly accomplished by looking the other way as Iraq's neighborhoods underwent massive sectarian cleansing, a matter that remains largely unresolved and which has contributed to a large-scale refugee problem. Packer is also seemingly unaware that recent reports have indicated that "the Sunni Arab guerrilla movement against the US and the Iraqi government has regrouped and reorganized, and is effectively lashing out again." We'll talk about Moqtada al-Sadr's role in all this misinformation in a minute.

Packer: "The same pragmatism that prompted him last month to forgo public financing of his campaign will surely lead him, if he becomes President, to recalibrate his stance on Iraq. He doubtless realizes that his original plan, if implemented now, could revive the badly wounded Al Qaeda in Iraq, reënergize the Sunni insurgency, embolden Moqtada al-Sadr to recoup his militia's recent losses to the Iraqi Army, and return the central government to a state of collapse."

It is unclear how withdrawal from Iraq will cause any of these things to happen, seeing as how our presence in Iraq has had no bearing on these matters either. Al-Qaeda didn't operate in Iraq until we created an opportunity for them to do so. Even with that opportunity, they didn't do much of consequence with it - "Al Qaeda in Iraq" is, and remains, a puny and insignificant group of insurgents - "about 850 full-time fighters" that are considered "a microscopic terrorist organization." And as for al Sadr's "recent losses to the Iraqi Army," all I can say is that the next time that happens will be the first time. If the Sadrist uprising eariler this year demonstrated anything, it was that al-Maliki's security forces were nowhere near ready for prime-time. The U.S. had to ride to their rescue and salvage the situation, and the end result of the cease-fire was "Advantage: Sadr" all the way.

And what about the potential "collapse" of the Iraqi government? Well, recent Congressional testimony from two members of that Iraqi government before the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on International Organizations, Human Rights and Oversight told a different story: that the most sizable obstacle to a unified government was...the U.S. occupation:

A letter signed by 31 Iraqi parliamentarians from across Iraq's sectarian spectrum and presented to Rep. Bill Delahunt (D-Mass.), chairman of a House Foreign Affairs subcommittee, called the deal "unconstitutional and illegal." The letter's signatories included Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds, who appear to be following Iraqi public opinion. A joint BBC-ABC News poll from September 2007 found nearly 50 percent of Iraqis favor an immediate withdrawal of U.S. troops, with barely 30 percent saying the U.S. should remain "until security is restored."


"[W]e wish to inform you that the majority of Iraqi representatives strongly reject any military-security, economic, commercial, agricultural, investment or political agreement with the United States that is not linked to clear mechanisms that obligate the occupying military forces to fully withdraw from Iraq, in accordance with a declared timetable and without leaving behind any military bases, soldiers or hired fighters," the letter stated. It represents the first attempt at formal legislature-to-legislature communications, undercutting the pro-occupation executives in both Washington and Baghdad.

What seems clear is that where Iraq is in decline, the decline is happening in spite of and because of our continued presence. Where there is a coalition of Iraqis who want to build a maintainable, unified center, our occupation is held out as the chief impediment to their efforts. And arguments that our withdrawal will only facilitate a greater humanitarian disaster fail to note that great humanitarian disasters have already occurred with our forces standing guard anyway. All of the trends indicate that a gradual withdrawal is the sensible strategy (and really, if the picture were as rosy as Packer believes it to be, wouldn't that go even further in suggesting that it was time for us to leave?). When you add the growing and urgent need in Afghanistan, as well as the gathering threat from al Qaeda and the reconstituted Taliban in that region, withdrawal-as-a-desired-outcome becomes withdrawal-as-a-desperately-necessary outcome.

As Obama's progressed from the pre-primary period to today, his position on Iraq withdrawal has resolutely trended in the right direction. It is where the mind of the mainstream electorate currently resides and it is the best strategy for extricating ourselves from Iraq and returning to the vital mission of rooting out and eliminating actual terrorists. Should Obama return from Iraq a changed man, aligning himself with McCain's conclusions, then, without a doubt, he will and should face a revolt from the electorate. If, however, his trip does nothing but confirm the conclusions he's already reached, the press should be on their guard and be prepared to push back if McCain begins spinning his consistent position as a reversal or a flip-flop. Packer notes that "a candidate who seems heedless of progress in Iraq will be vulnerable to the charge of defeatism." I'd counter Packer by noting that a reporter who seems heedless of the facts in Iraq will leave us all vulnerable to defeat.

This Sunday, I couldn't help but notice that a bit of a long con was being set up in advance of Senator Barack Obama's trip to Iraq. Obama has recently announced his intent to visit Iraq to take stoc...
This Sunday, I couldn't help but notice that a bit of a long con was being set up in advance of Senator Barack Obama's trip to Iraq. Obama has recently announced his intent to visit Iraq to take stoc...
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- harriscrl3 I'm a Fan of harriscrl3 191 fans permalink

Obama is not going to shift on Iraq becuase there is no pragmatic purpose for us to remain there. Obama has always said that there is no good answer to Iraq you can get out or stay those are your options. If you stay its Unusustainable finacially and in lives. He wants to get out for another reason to pressure the Iraqi government to stand up. Finally and most importantly Afghanistan is where Al Queada is and where they are gaining strenght. From a political point of view Obama can't put in place the policies that he wants if we reamin in Iraq thats where his money to pay for most of these programs is going to come from and somehow I dont see him giving up his tax cuts, health care, education, rebuilding America etc. Since they are bleaboring that the surge is working my question is why cant the troops start coming home. Something tells me Obama might be wondering that same thing.

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 07/01/2008
- moxieme I'm a Fan of moxieme 13 fans permalink

I was just thinking if I would post this comment and Bobleblah helped me make my decision. My friend's nephew was home from Iraq with 18 days left before he returned to his second tour of duty. The poor fellow was just in a horrible state of disenchantment and disappointment. He stated through his drunken haze (an attempt to dull his misery) that he does not live with his unit, as many of them don't. Rather they has been assigned to set up camp in designated buildings in Baghdad. He spoke about the duffle bags of US dollars that were dropped by plane a couple of times a week to pay the insurgents not to attack our troops in order to maintain the appearance the surge is working. I remain in a state of disbelief. We only have to recall Iran Contra to bring the reality of such tactics to the forefront. I sincerely hope all of our veterans, men and women in uniform, along with their families don't buy in to the ridiculous notion that a candidate without having served in the military lacks the ability to make the appropriate and necessary judgement in times of war. Personally, I believe there is something lacking in a candidate who at the ripe old age of 71 is just realizing the nation where he holds citizenship is going to hades in a handbasket.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 07/01/2008

I am a Democrat and have been for years--but I am ashamed of our party. CAN WE PLEASE WIN AN ELECTION???? I see Obama getting attacked by the left now more than the right. Can we please come together and win and not stand on some "moral high ground" and lose an election again??? You know this is insane--everybody knows you have to run to the center during general campaign mode--its a fact. I think we all know Obama is on the right side of torture, FISA, and all the issues that matter to us. Contrary to Ariana's blog today (which she seemed to forget Bill Clinton--which was more moderate than all of the Democratic presidents she mentioned). Do you think Republicans are happy with John McCain (see--immigration, campaign finance, Bush tax cut opposition, environment)--but they are not going public and throwing McCain under the bus like this website seems to be doing Senator Obama-- they understand it is more important for them to have one of their own in a position agreeing with them 90% of the time then it would be to have somebody that does not agree with them ever.
How about we act like Republicans ONE TIME IN OUR LIVES and calm down--stomach this "run to the center", not act like three year olds every time Obama says something that is a little inconsistent with our beliefs, and enjoy the spoils of eight years of our needs being addressed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 07/01/2008
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I doubt there will be an alignment with McCain. But a clear view of how he is going to withdraw in the 16 months that he has been saying all along. there are alot of faux flip flops put on Obama from the GOP to blogs to talking heads....get in line

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 07/01/2008

I'm sure he will. He's flipped on everything else. All it will take is ONE TRIP TO BAGDAD. Once he sees the Dog and Pony show, he'll see the wisdom of 100 years in Iraq. This man Obama is EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTING. He stands for nothing except getting elected. He is a fraud.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 07/01/2008
- Iscarius I'm a Fan of Iscarius 3 fans permalink
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So a majority of Americans want our troops to leave, and a majority of Iraqis want us to leave, but our government don't have a to give a rat's ass about what we want.

"A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 07/01/2008

Nice read.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 07/01/2008
- Bobleblah1 I'm a Fan of Bobleblah1 21 fans permalink

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 07/01/2008
- DMW1 I'm a Fan of DMW1 2 fans permalink

Why doesn't the mainstream media cover the Concerned Local Citizens groups - CLCs - the U.S. created in Iraq. Starting in May of 2007 the U.S. government began paying 70,000 Iraqi insurgents $10 per person per day to quit shooting at our soldiers and to become our paid temporary allies. Doesn't that coincide with when the surge started working? So is the surge working or is bribery working. This includes former members of al-Qaida in Iraq. What happens if someone else offers them more money?

http://www.stopthinkvote.com/facts/militaryfacts.html

Third item from the bottom.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 07/01/2008
- abouttime I'm a Fan of abouttime 24 fans permalink

DMW1 The U.S. occupation of Iraq must end. Obama needs to press this in every speech if he intends to withdraw U.S. troops as promised.
You are absolutely correct in clarifying the accounting of our tax dollars to support our "enemies" - of which the media has failed to report. This is ... war incorporated - the transformation of the U.S. Department of Defense into a corporate mercenary machine - beholden to the highest bidder. Profits become dependent on a permanent state of war.
The U.S. must elect Obama - We WILL hold him accountable!
Obama can make a difference, so thanks for the facts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 07/01/2008
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Prez O will not flip on the war...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 07/01/2008
- Anonani I'm a Fan of Anonani 58 fans permalink
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I am an average citizen of the United States. I am so average that I know unequivocally that ending our involvement in the war in Iraq will require the efforts of an intelligent President who will accomplish the task in a reasoned way. Now all of the other citizens who are trying to take Senator Obama's words literally will say that he has flip flopped if he has not met their interpretation of his verbal timelines during the campaign. I believe that his committment is to extracting us from the war, mindful of the advise of the commanders on the ground an all of his senior leadership.He is the only current candidate who has made that committment to our nation. So, please stop trying to trap him with your literal interpretation of his words.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 07/01/2008

The best thing for the U.S. AND Iraq is for the -until now- puppets of the U.S. say to the United Nations 'we don't need no flipping troops in our country'. AND they can say so and let both McSame and Obama off the hook.
What's most troubling is that the Dem's are STILL letting the Repub's frame the arguments.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 07/01/2008

George Packer is why I canceled my subscription to the New Yorker. There is a sick mendacity to everything he writes and I am grateful to Linkins for pointing out a sample of his falsifications.

We must leave Iraq to arrest the moral and material decline of the U.S.

It would mean their oil would wind up back on the world market reducing its price but Bush, Cheney,Exxon, Shell and the Saudis profits would just have to suck it up a few trillion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 07/01/2008
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 288 fans permalink
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From the New Yorker:
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In February, 2007, when Barack Obama declared that he was running for President, violence in Iraq had reached apocalyptic levels, and he based his candidacy, in part, on a bold promise to begin a rapid withdrawal of American forces upon taking office. At the time, this pledge represented conventional thinking among Democrats and was guaranteed to play well with primary voters. But in the year and a half since then two improbable, though not unforeseeable, events have occurred: Obama has won the Democratic nomination, and Iraq, despite myriad crises, has begun to stabilize. With the general election four months away, Obama’s rhetoric on the topic now seems outdated and out of touch, and the nominee-apparent may have a political problem concerning the very issue that did so much to bring him this far.

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2008/07/07/080707taco_talk_packer

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 07/01/2008
- Actionmac I'm a Fan of Actionmac 10 fans permalink
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Only thing out dated and out of touch is that article... if Iraq is stabilized then we could leave sooner. Then we will not spend BILLIONS on a war we should have NOT started. Then we could use OUR tax dollars on failing LEVEES, care for our wounded and returning military soldiers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 07/01/2008
- gotalife I'm a Fan of gotalife 22 fans permalink

He will.

Run her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 07/01/2008
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