Magic Mushrooms: Study Says They Help Some See Their Spiritual Side

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MALCOLM RITTER | July 1, 2008 08:59 AM EST | AP

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NEW YORK — In 2002, at a Johns Hopkins University laboratory, a business consultant named Dede Osborn took a psychedelic drug as part of a research project.

She felt like she was taking off. She saw colors. Then it felt like her heart was ripping open.

But she called the experience joyful as well as painful, and says that it has helped her to this day.

"I feel more centered in who I am and what I'm doing," said Osborn, now 66, of Providence, R.I. "I don't seem to have those self-doubts like I used to have. I feel much more grounded (and feel that) we are all connected."

Scientists reported Tuesday that when they surveyed volunteers 14 months after they took the drug, most said they were still feeling and behaving better because of the experience.

Two-thirds of them also said the drug had produced one of the five most spiritually significant experiences they'd ever had.

The drug, psilocybin, is found in so-called "magic mushrooms." It's illegal, but it has been used in religious ceremonies for centuries.

The study involved 36 men and women during an eight-hour lab visit. It's one of the few such studies of a hallucinogen in the past 40 years, since research was largely shut down after widespread recreational abuse of such drugs in the 1960s.

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The project made headlines in 2006 when researchers published their report on how the volunteers felt just two months after taking the drug. The new study followed them up a year after that.

Experts emphasize that people should not try psilocybin on their own because it could be harmful. Even in the controlled setting of the laboratory, nearly a third of participants felt significant fear under the effects of the drug. Without proper supervision, someone could be harmed, researchers said.

Osborn, in a telephone interview, recalled a powerful feeling of being out of control during her lab experience. "It was ... like taking off, I'm being lifted up," she said. Then came "brilliant colors and beautiful patterns, just stunningly gorgeous, more intense than normal reality."

And then, the sensation that her heart was tearing open.

"It would come in waves," she recalled. "I found myself doing Lamaze-type breathing as the pain came on."

Yet "it was a joyful, ecstatic thing at the same time, like the joy of being alive," she said. She compared it to birthing pains. "There was this sense of relief and joy and ecstasy when my heart was opened."

With further research, psilocybin (pronounced SILL-oh-SY-bin) may prove useful in helping to treat alcoholism and drug dependence, and in aiding seriously ill patients as they deal with psychological distress, said study lead author Roland Griffiths of Johns Hopkins.

Griffiths also said that despite the spiritual characteristics reported for the drug experiences, the study says nothing about whether God exists.

"Is this God in a pill? Absolutely not," he said.

The experiment was funded in part by the National Institute on Drug Abuse. The results were published online Tuesday by the Journal of Psychopharmacology.

Fourteen months after taking the drug, 64 percent of the volunteers said they still felt at least a moderate increase in well-being or life satisfaction, in terms of things like feeling more creative, self-confident, flexible and optimistic. And 61 percent reported at least a moderate behavior change in what they considered positive ways.

That second question didn't ask for details, but elsewhere the questionnaire answers indicated lasting gains in traits like being more sensitive, tolerant, loving and compassionate.

Researchers didn't try to corroborate what the participants said about their own behavior. But in the earlier analysis at two months after the drug was given, researchers said family and friends backed up what those in the study said about behavior changes. Griffiths said he has no reason to doubt the answers at 14 months.

Dr. Charles Grob, a professor of psychiatry and pediatrics at the Harbor-UCLA Medical Center, called the new work an important follow-up to the first study.

He said it is helping to reopen formal study of psychedelic drugs. Grob is on the board of the Heffter Research Institute, which promotes studies of psychedelic substances and helped pay for the new work.

NEW YORK — In 2002, at a Johns Hopkins University laboratory, a business consultant named Dede Osborn took a psychedelic drug as part of a research project. She felt like she was taking off. Sh...
NEW YORK — In 2002, at a Johns Hopkins University laboratory, a business consultant named Dede Osborn took a psychedelic drug as part of a research project. She felt like she was taking off. Sh...
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Being in the forest on subsequent 'trips', I walked on a path at night and had NO FEAR at all, I'd close my eyes and I was somewhere else inside.

Is one of those things that is hard to put into words.

I was never able to understand calculus, and only passed it in college after the initial experience with shrooms.

Makes you realize the physical plane we exist on is just that, a plane, and there are other realities.

I could write thousands of words about the positive experiences from this.

Just don't do it alone, be where you can crash (don't drive) and if you pick the wrong mushrooms, you die, so do your homework if you want to experiment with this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 07/01/2008

Absolutely worked for me in my younger days.
Only did it a couple times, but to say it was a spiritual event doesn't even come close.

It brought all my brightest hopes and deepest fears out of my subconscious.

We had picked our own, done it ourselves - had a friend with a cabin in a National Forest.

The first time was one of the most religious experiences of my life.
I could feel and 'see' the connectivity that exists between all life.

Never was the same afterwards, changed how I looked at everything.

If you want to keep a nation of materialists, don't let them do this, they may find out there is happiness in the simplest of things.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 07/01/2008

In other news, water is wet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 07/01/2008
- Titonwan I'm a Fan of Titonwan 7 fans permalink

That's funny, but they do provide insight. It certainly is a journey. They're not habit forming either. Refreshing of the soul. Take with a mentor present or you will be rudderless (lost).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 AM on 07/02/2008
- wwja I'm a Fan of wwja permalink
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well they could have just asked. this is kinda a "duh" moment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 07/01/2008
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I agree,Fat Pharmaceutical companys push obscenely dangerous drugs and the populace as a whole accepts them...but mention mushrooms and WHOA you are talking crazy !
AMBIEN the sleep medicine is some evil stuff. well,all i can say is its easily abused and causes extreme hallucinations,sleep walking,"sleep" driving,"sleep" eating,"sleep" sex and more. But you don't hear much about it because its also an amnesiac!!!
Though,ask an ER doctor and they will admit its a common occurrence. The patients don't remember but the ER bill does.
I have taken my father to the ER twice for overdosing on Ambien. 3-4 pills. The beauty is you take one..wake up take another..all because you can't remember taking the first one!!!He has only what i could describe as PCP type hallucinations,seeing things,talking to dead people and moods swings.
Also,i have been told by a friend of mine that if you take the prescribed dose of Ambien but force yourself to NOT sleep that its a trip all its own. And because you never slept,you will remember your"trip"...the reason i bring this up is because these companys know this and sell this drug ..with similar or scarier
effects than mushrooms.
No one ODs on weed. and shrooms are tried and tested FUN!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 07/01/2008
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I had insomnia a few years ago and took ambien. For the first few days it worked great but then on the 4th day I woke up on my neighbor's couch! I lived in an apartment building at the time, and apparently in my sleep I got up, went next door (to a neighbor's apartment I often frequented while awake), knocked, talked to them for a minute, then laid down and went to sleep on their couch. I didn't remember ANY of it, the last thing I remembered was going to bed in my own room, and i had no prior history of sleep walking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 07/02/2008
- landmine I'm a Fan of landmine 4 fans permalink

Hey, and all this time I thought I was dreaming...the most realistic dreams. If you can't tell, I had very near the same experiences on ambien.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 07/02/2008
- SKMojo I'm a Fan of SKMojo 5 fans permalink
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Worked as described for me and my friends 40 years ago...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 07/01/2008
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I've shroomed many times and it's nothing quite as "spiritual" as these posers are trying to make it sound. You laugh. That's it. You don't find enlightenment or any other such nonsense. You giggle, giggle and giggle some more. That's it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 07/01/2008
- lechatnoir I'm a Fan of lechatnoir 7 fans permalink

You obviously need to increase the dosage. Try 3.5 grams, that ought to do the trick.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 07/01/2008
- 1099 I'm a Fan of 1099 6 fans permalink

Try some liquid acid straight from the lab and then throw your 1/8th of shrooms on that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 07/02/2008
- rigveda I'm a Fan of rigveda 14 fans permalink
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Yeah, you clearly don't get good shrooms. I have been to alien worlds while partaking of the divine shroom.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 07/01/2008
- 1099 I'm a Fan of 1099 6 fans permalink

I agree these people are rank amateurs when it comes to this topic. On rare occassions, I've had some so called "spiritual" moments and seen some truths that I may have missed but overall enlightenment is not on the table. The people on this post have limited experience in this area and it shows.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 07/02/2008
- TheBlackCat I'm a Fan of TheBlackCat 272 fans permalink
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Uh, no, sorry, you are wrong. No you're not going to become the Buddha and receive enlightenment, that's true. but as I stated in another reply I live part of the year in the Netherlands where most people I know have done them extensively, and are certainly not "amatures," and the vast majority of users have had very in depth hallucinatory or spiritual experiences, with many reporting life changing experiences or realizations. I have done the whole spectrum, from the pleasant, gigly mexican shrooms to the mildly hallucinatory equadorians to the mind blowing hawaiins. The Hawaiins, for example, are only recommended for EXTREMELY experienced trippers, because the hallucinations are so great that you will lose it completely if you were to try these having no or limitied shrooming experience. I had a friend visit me from the States who had done them there, who tried some Columbian shrooms in Amsterdam and he COMPLETELY freaked. He was tripping so bad he didn't know where he was or what was going on around him, and he only took HALF of the recommended dosage!!!
Don't call other people on this board amatures when you CLEARLY have extremely limited experience yourself. Maybe you always got them from the same place or person so even if you did them a lot you didn't get a wide range of experiences. I however have done many different KINDS of shrooms, not simply one kind many different times. THEY ARE NOT ALL THE SAME!!! comparison.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 07/02/2008
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Hate to break it to you bub, but you obviously had a very poor connection for your shrooms, or you didn't know how to dose properly. I live part of the year in Holland where they are legal and there are many different kinds. I also lived in Florida where they grow wild all over the place. There have been a couple times I took too little, or took them after eating too much (if you take them on a full stomach or eat fatty foods the day you take them it GREATLY decreases their potency), and all I did was giggle. But most times I got a very awesome hallucinatory and spiritual experience. In Holland when my friends and I would take the stronger kinds we'd always have a designated sober babysitter because the hallucinations were so extreme we needed someone to watch over us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 07/02/2008
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Although it has been many years since I experimented with shrooms, I clearly recall those highly revelatory experiences. I'm hesitant to call them spiritual experiences, because I don't really know what spiritual means. From what I've read of so-called spiritual practices such as meditation, enlightenment involves shedding the ego and being at one with the universe. If this way of being constitutes spirituality, then powerful hallucinogens can open spiritual doors.

The disintegration of ego can be unsettling if one hasn't contemplated this possibility. The human experience is such that it is helpful to create and maintain a sense of self. Self is such a highly regarded construct that parents and educators consider the promotion of "self esteem" in children to be an important aspect of child-rearing. Subjects in the Johns Hopkins study who reported frightening experiences were probably experiencing anxiety over the loss of ego-based grounding. Those unable to move past such fear had better steer clear of entheogens.

I want to be able to legally use entheogens. It is annoying that in my country, Canada, it is perfectly legal to buy toxic alcohol and tobacco, yet it is illegal to possess chemicals having the potential to expand consciousness. If entheogens were freely available, people might learn that materialistic ego gratification limits human potential and produces environmental and social damage. Ruling commercial interests will not permit people to use virtually free natural substances that may instill an appreciation for the merits of voluntary simplicity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 AM on 07/03/2008
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I can haz shroomies?

That common knowledge among the Seekers is FINALLY seeping into the mainstream tells me that the Powers that Were are getting older, settling down, thinking about life, death, God, spirituality, and meaning. Good for them, but I have a better idea than the shrooms:

Let's confiscate their cocaine and hop them up on ecstasy and ganja instead! They'll get hungry and stop being so mean. THEN, they'll put their considerable fortunes and influence toward FEEDING the people of the developing world, instead of exterminating them like so much vermin.

Hey, we've tried everything else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 07/01/2008
- KevinMast I'm a Fan of KevinMast 14 fans permalink
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Sounds like fun.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 07/01/2008
- sher2x4 I'm a Fan of sher2x4 2 fans permalink

I hear that eating shrooms turns you into a liberal communist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 07/01/2008

I heard that dropping acid can turn a non-voter into a Libertarian.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 07/02/2008
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But they taste like....oh, wait - can't say that anymore.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 07/01/2008

The taste is awful, we made tea out of them.

My first time lasted 8 hours, was much more than I was prepared for.

We had a stereo going, playing CDs, I remember having to change Cds for Pink Floyd's 'The Wall' and getting to the stereo felt like I was climbing up a ladder to get to it.

Goodbye Blue Sky will always have special meaning for me...

Made me wonder what knowledge the Native Americans had that we casually discarded.

Turns out, they were centuries ahead in meta-physics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 07/01/2008

if taken in the right setting and state of mind, they can take you places you've never fathomed before.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 07/01/2008
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1969 - they land on the moon. I watched, and the psilocybin made it one of the most amazing experiences of my life.

1986 - I write a musical. I celebrate one of the first perfromances by ingesting a big wad of shrooms. and cross the Golden Gate bridge and go sit on a dock in Sausalito. It was another one of those amazing experiences that can happen in a life if you take responsibility for your actions.

Live your life, make your god happy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 07/01/2008

Bill Hicks already said this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 07/01/2008
- rigveda I'm a Fan of rigveda 14 fans permalink
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No s**t!? They needed a study to figure this out?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 07/01/2008
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No. Not at all. However you need controlled study to show the skeptics and law and order types that these are substances that may have legitimate uses. Some folks won't believe anything without empirical evidence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 07/02/2008
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