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Still Fighting 'Nam: Kerry Allies Urge McCain To Drop Swift Boat Surrogate

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July 2, 2008 02:03 PM


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Despite pledges from both Barack Obama and John McCain to move this presidential campaign beyond the disagreements of past generations, the political world is still adjudicating Vietnam battles.

Seven naval contemporaries of Sen. John Kerry sent a letter today to McCain calling on him to renounce recent statements made by surrogate Bud Day in which he defended his Swift Boat Veteran for Truth attacks as true.

"[W]e are deeply concerned over the comments of your campaign surrogate Bud Day, whom you tapped to represent your campaign the day after General Clark's comments. Your campaign provided a platform for Mr. Day to continue spreading the false and malicious smears of the so-called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (SBVT).

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"In 2004, you yourself called the SBVT campaign "dishonest and dishonorable," and said that you "deplored this type of politics," but your actions in providing a platform for Mr. Day persuaded us that perhaps you needed a reminder just how dishonest and dishonorable the campaign was.

"With this information in mind, we respectfully request that you and Mr. Day disown the proven lies and shameful tactics of the SBVT, or, failing that, we ask that you disassociate your campaign from Bud Day and from anyone who was a part of the SBVT. We understand that there are decisions made in haste during the heat of the campaign that do not reflect the underlying values of the candidate. We sincerely hope and believe that this was one of them, and we look forward to your announcement that your campaign has renounced this action."

At issue, again, is the denigration of military service. McCain and his aides initially complained when Gen. Wesley Clark said that time as a fighter pilot or POW did not make one qualified to be commander in chief. The campaign then furthered its complaint by attacking Sen. Jim Webb for urging the Arizona Republican to "calm down" with the insertion of military affairs into presidential politics.

But in the process, McCain's aides questioned and devalued the service of Clark (Orson Swindle, a surrogate, said "[Clark's] record in his last command I think was somewhat less than stellar"). And by including Day in a conference call, in which Day insisted that the Swift Boat ads from 2004 were merely a "revelation of truth," Kerry's allies are arguing that McCain is complicit in denigrating the service of the Massachusetts Democrat as well.

The fact that this argument is being waged a full four days after it began (though Kerry's allies have been fighting a separate battle with Swift Boat backer T. Boone Pickens) shows how deep the wounds of the Vietnam generation remain; and it may end up muddying Obama's message to move past these generation tiffs.


Full Text Of The Letter Below

Dear Senator McCain:

After General Clark's comments last weekend, your campaign stated strongly that dismissing anyone's service has no place in any campaign in our country. No matter what anyone thinks of General Clark's comments, as veterans, we wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment that casting aspersions on anyone's service is not acceptable discourse.

In that spirit, we are deeply concerned over the comments of your campaign surrogate Bud Day, whom you tapped to represent your campaign the day after General Clark's comments. Your campaign provided a platform for Mr. Day to continue spreading the false and malicious smears of the so-called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (SBVT).

As Swiftboat veterans, we believe very strongly that there is no place in a campaign for perpetuating the continuing denigration of the honorable service of so many men, including Senator Kerry but also including the many men who served with him during the events that served as the backdrop for the SBVT lies. Your campaign's statements about General Clark's comments indicate that your campaign believes the same, but your actions with Mr. Day are not consistent with that belief.

We recently wrote a letter to SBVT funder T. Boone Pickens detailing just a portion of the lies spread by the SBVT, contradicting Mr. Day's contention of Monday that, "The Swift Boat 'attacks' were simply revelation of the truth." We are attaching that letter so you can get a sense of the scope of the dishonesty of those attacks.

In 2004, you yourself called the SBVT campaign "dishonest and dishonorable," and said that you "deplored this type of politics," but your actions in providing a platform for Mr. Day persuaded us that perhaps you needed a reminder just how dishonest and dishonorable the campaign was.

With this information in mind, we respectfully request that you and Mr. Day disown the proven lies and shameful tactics of the SBVT, or, failing that, we ask that you disassociate your campaign from Bud Day and from anyone who was a part of the SBVT. We understand that there are decisions made in haste during the heat of the campaign that do not reflect the underlying values of the candidate. We sincerely hope and believe that this was one of them, and we look forward to your announcement that your campaign has renounced this action.

Sincerely:

James Rassman
Veteran, US Army

Wade Sanders
Veteran, US Navy

Drew Whitlow
Veteran, US Navy

Fred Short
Veteran, US Navy

Eugene Thorson
Veteran, US Navy

Jim Wasser
Veteran, US Navy

Pat Runyon
Veteran, US Navy

 
 

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- gonavy See Profile I'm a Fan of gonavy

Surely Kerry is aware of the relationship between McCain and Day. The demands in this letter are just ridicilous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 AM on 07/03/2008
- gonavy See Profile I'm a Fan of gonavy

When Kerry returned from the war, threw his medals away, and testified before congress that the soldiers were raping, murdering innocents, and killing babies, did he not think that would ever come back to bite him in the a$$. You went too far, Kerry, now you just have to live with it.

BTW, when is someone going to tell him that he lost and just sounds like a whinner now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 AM on 07/03/2008
- chriss0114 See Profile I'm a Fan of chriss0114

Read the testimony.

And yes, there were many crimes like raping and killing of innocents by US forces although not all and surelty not most.

Grow up! Apprently, you cannot handle the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 AM on 07/03/2008
- Grada3784 See Profile I'm a Fan of Grada3784

He sounds like a Republican?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 AM on 07/03/2008
- loax See Profile I'm a Fan of loax

Since when have the Reputhuglicans had any decency? I'm shocked that McBusjh has not claimed that he led the rescue of the 3 Americans from Colimbia in a jet! They are one sorry party!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 07/02/2008
- Dave01 See Profile I'm a Fan of Dave01

Correct me if I am wrong, but would that not require at least one ounce of decency and integrity?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 07/02/2008
- DrittesReich See Profile I'm a Fan of DrittesReich

Holy Bones of Dracula!! These old men and their Swift Boat egoistic Surrogates, are STILL fighting VIETNAM after 43-years, "WAR-OVER" ....and this time, right here ON AMERICAN SOIL!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 07/02/2008
- fedupinBushcountry See Profile I'm a Fan of fedupinBushcountry

43 years? That means my husband would of been 14 years old when he went on his first tour in Vietnam. Get your history right and many were hurt and had their honor questioned because of the LIES of the SBVT. I salute them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 07/05/2008
- DrittesReich See Profile I'm a Fan of DrittesReich

Holy Bones of Dracula!! These old men and their Swift Boat egoistic Surrogates, are STILL fighting VIETNAM after 43-years, "WAR-OVER" ....and this time, right here ON AMERICAN SOLID!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 07/02/2008
- demfriend See Profile I'm a Fan of demfriend

Kerry released his full records and he did it when he was targeted by these same idiots. He has more than enough people to back his story and therefore these guys lied again and again with most of them never even being with Kerry or knowing him while in Vietnam. Now this same #$#% is doing the same things BUT with McCain doing the script writing. Clark said NOTHING bad about McCain except hat McCain has in his own distorted mind. Webb said NOTHING wrong and he just said it was time to stop using the military service in politics. God thinking as McCains service long over and everyone has bowed to him so many times about being a POW it has began to look like McCain demands it. McCain can talk and joke about his service and time as a POW but damn any one for saying one thing even in priase of him for he hears what he thinks he hears. Dementia is like that John so get help!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 07/02/2008
- gonavy See Profile I'm a Fan of gonavy

Webb has no room to talk about using military service in politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 AM on 07/03/2008
- MilitaryBrat See Profile I'm a Fan of MilitaryBrat

When he wears a Medal of Honor in an ad smearing another vet, I'll agree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 PM on 07/03/2008
- bigmikecraft See Profile I'm a Fan of bigmikecraft

Gentlemen & Ladies, May we please get away from Viet Nam. It is over in Asia & started in Iraq. Mr McCain should not keep marching out 75 to 85 year old Viet Nam Vets. The times have changed. In Iraq we don't have a defined enemy, in Viet Nam we did. The nation is in a perminant recession now, and during 65 thru 72, we had a stable economy and low housing prices. Civil employees now get every thing that private citizens should get. There is no national health care except for civil servants, ( we now work for them), the nation was sold a bill of goods with 401's and IRA's. The civil servant never wanted to change from a guaranteed pention and cut short years. This nation needs national health care paid for as a national right just like civil servants. Quite marching out men from Viet Nam, This nation is going broke, the fishing businesses are closing in resort areas. We must take our oil by force. A third world nation, like Saudi Arabia is giving us orders. Invade and seize the oil there and in Venezuala. Wake up and grow up. The presidency is to help our own citizens not any foreigners or foreign nations. We have 600 ships in mothballs, call up the draft and take our oil and anything else we need to have the American Life Back that Bill Clinton & George Bush sold us out from. Sincerely bigmikecraft

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 07/02/2008
- Masterbasser See Profile I'm a Fan of Masterbasser

I'll say it again and again and again..........BUD DAY.....take off that MOH. YOU ARE VIOLATING USC 18 BY WEARING THAT DECORATION FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES. I wouldn't care WHO he was supporting, nor would it matter what his politcal activities were........he is cheapening the valor and memory of ALL those that have been awarded the nations highest military decoration for purely partisan political gains, and that Mr. Day, stinks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 07/02/2008
- MilitaryBrat See Profile I'm a Fan of MilitaryBrat

Yes, he actually wore it in an ad smearing another veteran. Despicable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 PM on 07/03/2008
- chriss0114 See Profile I'm a Fan of chriss0114

Too bad that he wears it but he daes so because some people take it to be like Wonder Woman's Truth Rope. He can't be lying if he is wearing the MOH, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 07/03/2008
- SouthpawSass See Profile I'm a Fan of SouthpawSass

McCain's campaign needed something, anything to deflect the campaign against him by the "Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain" so they jumped head first on the comments made by General Clark. It doesn't matter that the General didn't say anything about McCain's service, it just matters that if his campaign says it enough, and the corporate media says it enough, people who don't research on their own will believe it... This way the "Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain" will be quelled... or at least that's what the McCain campaign and the corporate media are hoping for...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 07/02/2008
- JiminNC See Profile I'm a Fan of JiminNC

Today, we will learn that the B-ush Admin is coordinating military actions with McDoink's campaign. Imaging the sheer fortune of McGramps taking a trip to Columbia on the day that these hostages are liberated from FARC. This smells like a bucket of rats and we are being abused here.

Records McDoink

Taxes McTrollup

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 07/02/2008
- KBAR See Profile I'm a Fan of KBAR

906 days and COUNTING!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 07/02/2008
- JiminNC See Profile I'm a Fan of JiminNC

Until the fist Obama midterm election, when the congress (for the first time in history) becomes entirely democratic and the republican party fades into history as the last dying gasp from the days of corsets and buggy whips?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 07/02/2008
- Liberal2 See Profile I'm a Fan of Liberal2

You have that many fingers and toes? Or relying on "professional" help to do the counting?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 07/02/2008
- mom2sons See Profile I'm a Fan of mom2sons

Show me the records!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 07/02/2008
- MilitaryBrat See Profile I'm a Fan of MilitaryBrat

Oops, sorry. I thought you were referring to JK !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 07/03/2008
- ReasonIsMyReligion See Profile I'm a Fan of ReasonIsMyReligion

Sunni, Shiite... Viet Cong.
McSame diff.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 07/02/2008
- NickNas See Profile I'm a Fan of NickNas

McCain will not do a THING to refute Black or these liars. Watch and see.

BUT he will WHINE and CRY and throw TANTRUMS every time anyone challenges HIM on HIS record or lack thereof.

McCain is stuck in a time where people were less wary and educated and thinks he can have the best of both worlds.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 07/02/2008
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