Justice Department Considers Racial Profiling For Terror Prevention

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First Posted: 07- 3-08 08:28 AM   |   Updated: 07-11-08 05:12 AM

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The Justice Department is considering letting the FBI investigate Americans without any evidence of wrongdoing, relying instead on a terrorist profile that could single out Muslims, Arabs or other racial and ethnic groups.

Law enforcement officials say the proposed policy would help them do exactly what Congress demanded after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks: root out terrorists before they strike.

Although President Bush has disavowed targeting suspects based on their race or ethnicity, the new rules would allow the FBI to consider those factors among a number of traits that could trigger a national security investigation.

Currently, FBI agents need specific reasons _ like evidence or allegations that a law probably has been violated _ to investigate U.S. citizens and legal residents. The new policy, law enforcement officials told The Associated Press, would let agents open preliminary terrorism investigations after mining public records and intelligence to build a profile of traits that, taken together, were deemed suspicious.

Among the factors that could make someone subject of an investigation is travel to regions of the world known for terrorist activity, access to weapons or military training, along with the person's race or ethnicity.

More than a half-dozen senior FBI, Justice Department and other U.S. intelligence officials familiar with the new policy agreed to discuss it only on condition of anonymity, either because they were not allowed to speak publicly or because the change is not yet final.

The change, which is expected later this summer, is part of an update of Justice Department policies known as the attorney general guidelines. They are being overhauled amid the FBI's transition from a traditional crime-fighting agency to one whose top mission is to protect America from terrorist attacks.

"We don't know what we don't know. And the object is to cut down on that," said one FBI official who defended the plans.

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Another official, while also defending the proposed guidelines, raised concerns about criticism during the presidential election year over what he called "the P word" _ profiling.

If adopted, the guidelines would be put in place in the final months of a presidential administration that has been dogged by criticism that its counterterror programs trample privacy rights and civil liberties.

Critics say the presumption of innocence is lost in the proposal. The FBI will be allowed to begin investigations simply "by assuming that everyone's a suspect, and then you weed out the innocent," said Caroline Fredrickson of the American Civil Liberties Union.

Attorney General Michael Mukasey acknowledged the overhaul was under way in early June, saying the guidelines sought to ensure regulations for FBI terror investigations don't conflict with ones governing criminal probes. He would not give any details.

"It's necessary to put in place regulations that will allow the FBI to transform itself ... into an intelligence gathering organization in addition to just a crime solving organization," Mukasey told reporters.

The changes would allow FBI agents to ask open-ended questions about activities of Muslim- or Arab-Americans, or investigate them if their jobs and backgrounds match trends that analysts deem suspect.

FBI agents would not be allowed to eavesdrop on phone calls or dig deeply into personal data _ such as the content of phone or e-mail records or bank statements _ until a full investigation was opened.

The guidelines focus on the FBI's domestic operations and run about 40 pages long, several officials said. They do not specifically spell out what traits the FBI should use in building profiles.

One senior Justice Department official said agents have been allowed since 2003 to build "threat assessments" of Americans based on public records and information from informants. Such assessments could be used to open a preliminary investigation, the official said.

However, another official said the 2003 authorities are limited, tightly monitored by FBI headquarters in Washington and, overall, confusing to agents about how or when they can be used.

Justice spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said the guidelines governing when to open a national security investigation are part of a "harmonizing" process that will not give the FBI any more authority than it already has. He declined further comment, but he and two other senior Justice officials, would not deny the changes as they were described to AP by others familiar with the guidelines.

"Any review and change to the guidelines will reflect our traditional concerns for civil liberties and First Amendment liberties and our traditional investigative emphasis on using the least intrusive means feasible," Roehrkasse said Wednesday.

Although the guidelines do not require congressional approval, House members recently sought to limit such profiling by rejecting an $11 million request for the FBI's security assessment center. Lawmakers wrote it that was unclear how the FBI could compile suspect profiles "in such a way as to avoid needless intrusions into the privacy of innocent citizens" and without wasting time and money chasing down false leads.

The denial of funding could limit the FBI's use of profiles, or "predictive models and patterns of behavior" as the government prefers to describe the data-mining results, but would not change the guidelines authorizing them. The guidelines would remain in effect until a new attorney general decided to change them.

Courts across the country have overturned criminal convictions when defendants showed they were targeted based on race. Racial profiling generally is considered a civil rights violation, and former Attorney General John Ashcroft condemned it in March 2001 as an "unconstitutional deprivation of equal protection under our Constitution."

President Bush also has condemned racial profiling as "wrong in America" and in a December 2001 interview had harsh words for an airline that refused to let one of his Secret Service agents board a commercial flight. The agent was Arab-American. "If he was treated that way because of his ethnicity, that will make me madder than heck," Bush said.

Immediately after 9/11, hundreds of Muslims and Arabs were detained, deported and monitored as the government urgently sought information that could prevent another attack. Despite efforts to repair and nurture relationships with those groups, Muslim- and Arab-Americans still complain of being singled out by federal security practices.

Martin Redish, a constitutional and civil rights scholar at Northwestern University School of Law, said courts are likely to give the FBI a lot of leeway in deciding how to open national security investigations.

"But it's a very fine line to be drawn when the basis of the investigation is dominated by the ethnic background of the subject," Redish said. "And when the investigation results in harassment, you have a serious constitutional concern."

Citing Unabomber Theodore Kaczynski and Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh _ two white Americans _ the ACLU's Fredrickson said: "Profiling has sent us in the wrong direction. ... I thought we learned our lesson in that regard."


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It never ends. We are running out of rights to be trampled.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 07/03/2008
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Like the late, great George Carlin said: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWiBt-pqp0E

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 07/03/2008
- LibRS I'm a Fan of LibRS 5 fans permalink

Since i have a dog in this hunt too,,,,,,,­,,,,,,,,,,­,,, i have rights as well. one of them is for my government to keep muslims from blowing my family up. if looking harder at the middle eastern guy will help in that mission, well then i'm all for it. if those profiled (or you for that matter) can't understand this, well, tough s_ _ _.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 07/03/2008
- davedave I'm a Fan of davedave 7 fans permalink

we've come a long way, baby!

waltz, cha-cha, now the goose step.

d

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 07/03/2008

The so-called war on terrorism is racial profiling, by definition. "Those Muslims want to kill us." Funny, but when the I.R.A. was killing Protestants in Northern Ireland, England never considered attacking the Vatican because "those Catholics want to kill us."

Muslims have dark skins. They worship a different God. Many of them do in fact hate the United States. So when Cheney talks about a Muslim caliphate extending from Spain to Indonesia, it's easy to imagine millions of terrorists planning the next attack. The war on terrorism is similar to the war on Godless Communism, with an ethnic aspect to it. Remember the Domino Theory? The war on terrorism is similar, except the Domino Theory was purely political.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 07/03/2008
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No, the Vatican wasn't attacked but should have been for allowing the Protestants (Crown loyalists) in Northern Ireland to kill and discriminate against the Catholics.­.. And shame on the United States for not liberating those Catholics from the tyranny and oppression of that crown...

One man's terrorist is another man's nationalis­t...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 07/03/2008

"The so-called war on terrorism is racial profiling, by definition. "Those Muslims want to kill us."

And so we MUST keep doing what we did in IRAQ ... "root out terrorists before they strike". And the ONLY way to do that in IRAQ... was to INVADE IRAQ... so the terrorists (Al Qaeda) would come THERE... so WE could "root them out".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 07/03/2008
- AtomiClash I'm a Fan of AtomiClash 4 fans permalink

Racial profiling? News? Hardly. Living in an almost all-white CT suburb, many, many, many of my friends have been routinely pulled over for the crime of being "not-white­-enough." Why would the Justice Department be any different than the cops?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 AM on 07/03/2008
- DaOne I'm a Fan of DaOne 44 fans permalink
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“When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”

Sinclair Lewis

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 AM on 07/03/2008

It's already here, my friend

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 07/03/2008

...and has been for the last 8 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 AM on 07/03/2008
- LibRS I'm a Fan of LibRS 5 fans permalink

You're right. Its called the "ACLU".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 AM on 07/03/2008

Sometimes I wish I could I remember when I thought that 1984 was the greatest work of fiction I had ever read...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 07/03/2008

*sigh*

Its no point in ranting and raving about it! No one is going to do anything!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 07/03/2008
- DaOne I'm a Fan of DaOne 44 fans permalink
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and that is the sad truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 07/03/2008
- arvay I'm a Fan of arvay 140 fans permalink
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Just one more attack on our Constitution by the Bush neocon-neofascist government!

Hey, if you're Italian or Greek American, worry --- enough of you look like Arabs that you may find yourself stopped and interrogated. Plan for extra examinations and delays at airports.

The utter stupidity of this administration, coupled with its unconstitutional behavior, is the greatest danger to our freedoms in modern times.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 07/03/2008
- danoj I'm a Fan of danoj 17 fans permalink

So shaking down a little old lady from Iowa makes more sence than pulling someone of arab oragin out of line for questioning and a search makes more sence. okay......­...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 07/03/2008
- LibRS I'm a Fan of LibRS 5 fans permalink

Yeah right. I could care less if they profile. Oops. Is that politically incorrect? TS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 07/03/2008
- thebanana I'm a Fan of thebanana 7 fans permalink

Once again, the monkeys are running the zoo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 07/03/2008
- WFV I'm a Fan of WFV 13 fans permalink
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'We don't know what we don't know'. A chilling statement if ever I heard one.

What exactly does 'access to weapons' mean? Virtually everyone has access to weapons, thanks in part to the new Supreme Court ruling.

Guilty until proven innocent, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 07/03/2008
- LibRS I'm a Fan of LibRS 5 fans permalink

Go ahead and say it. You got a soft spot in your heart for the muslims don't you. Come on now?! You can say it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 07/03/2008
- sunny555 I'm a Fan of sunny555 12 fans permalink
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Good, I hope they do profile. I'm sick of me and my kids body-searched at airports

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 07/03/2008
- strifeknot I'm a Fan of strifeknot 14 fans permalink

Wow. Sounds like you deserve worse than that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 07/03/2008
- BlackJAC I'm a Fan of BlackJAC 61 fans permalink

Three words: "John Walker Lindh." Two more: "Timothy McVeigh." Don't like America becoming a nation of laws and common decency? Then move to China.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 07/03/2008

Nope, wrong answer... NEXT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 07/03/2008
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Yeah, there couldn't possibly be any white terrorist, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 07/03/2008

This sounds very distributing. This would only cause more discrimination!!

Obama need to take the office and stop this non sense!!


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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 07/03/2008

Wow all of this with only 5 months to go in the administration. President Obama is going to have tons of crap to clean up starting in January.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 AM on 07/03/2008

Gawd ferbid we use the remaining SIX months (until inauguration) to IMPEACH his highly deserving *ss.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 07/03/2008

I cant seem to understand that! Im really really getting angry at how weak the Dems are being right now! The Reps was able to impeach Clynton over a lie about what he did in his office but B U S H lied to use about the war, commited acts against the constitution, making under handed deals and now racial profiling and not a peep from Senate or Congress..­.matter of fact they are on vacation!! Poor ole Kucinich was almost ridiculed for what he did! I think we need to take it old school and march to captiol hill!!! They work for US, the people, and its time we made them listen to the boss if not lets votes those idiots out!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 07/03/2008
- buckbuck11 I'm a Fan of buckbuck11 13 fans permalink

....a greater task than Hercules had with the Augean Stables.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 AM on 07/03/2008
- danoj I'm a Fan of danoj 17 fans permalink

As if President Obama will do anything different. He's going to do the exact same crap and will be hailed a hero for it from the same people who rail against it now. As far as racial profiling terrorists go it's about time. Not racial profiling is ignorant, it might not be fair, but young middle eastern men are more likely to commit terrorism than the 90 year old lady from oklahoma that they shake down in an airport. So not sure why the people who fit the profile aren't the target of scrutiny while people who clearly do not are. Not saying we shouldn't take a look at everyone, but ya say racial profile and the libs gets all up in arms, because they want to please everyone. Worst thing you can do to a lib is call them names; they will give the entire country away if ya do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 AM on 07/03/2008
- buckbuck11 I'm a Fan of buckbuck11 13 fans permalink

You conveniently ignore the perpetrator of the Oklahoma City truck bombing. Much of the hassle at the airport is totally unnecessary - to give us a false sense of security and to keep the "fear factor" alive.

If you want to criticize liberals and progressives for promoting a value of fairness, equal protection and, dare I say, justice, then apparently the conservatives don't really believe in the Constitution at all, do they? They are patriots of convenience, in my opinion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 07/03/2008
- nycity I'm a Fan of nycity 3 fans permalink

what a foolish comment

terrorist come in all shapes and sizes

its funny you call racial profiling ignorant then continue on to make an extremely ignorant statement

well

it's sad reall

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 07/03/2008
- nycity I'm a Fan of nycity 3 fans permalink

pity....

there might be intelligence behind all that ignorance you possess

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 07/03/2008
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which makes the 90 year old lady the obvious pick to sneak something onto the plane

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 07/03/2008
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