Justice Department Considers Racial Profiling For Terror Prevention

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First Posted: 07- 3-08 08:28 AM   |   Updated: 07-11-08 05:12 AM

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The Justice Department is considering letting the FBI investigate Americans without any evidence of wrongdoing, relying instead on a terrorist profile that could single out Muslims, Arabs or other racial and ethnic groups.

Law enforcement officials say the proposed policy would help them do exactly what Congress demanded after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks: root out terrorists before they strike.

Although President Bush has disavowed targeting suspects based on their race or ethnicity, the new rules would allow the FBI to consider those factors among a number of traits that could trigger a national security investigation.

Currently, FBI agents need specific reasons _ like evidence or allegations that a law probably has been violated _ to investigate U.S. citizens and legal residents. The new policy, law enforcement officials told The Associated Press, would let agents open preliminary terrorism investigations after mining public records and intelligence to build a profile of traits that, taken together, were deemed suspicious.

Among the factors that could make someone subject of an investigation is travel to regions of the world known for terrorist activity, access to weapons or military training, along with the person's race or ethnicity.

More than a half-dozen senior FBI, Justice Department and other U.S. intelligence officials familiar with the new policy agreed to discuss it only on condition of anonymity, either because they were not allowed to speak publicly or because the change is not yet final.

The change, which is expected later this summer, is part of an update of Justice Department policies known as the attorney general guidelines. They are being overhauled amid the FBI's transition from a traditional crime-fighting agency to one whose top mission is to protect America from terrorist attacks.

"We don't know what we don't know. And the object is to cut down on that," said one FBI official who defended the plans.

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Another official, while also defending the proposed guidelines, raised concerns about criticism during the presidential election year over what he called "the P word" _ profiling.

If adopted, the guidelines would be put in place in the final months of a presidential administration that has been dogged by criticism that its counterterror programs trample privacy rights and civil liberties.

Critics say the presumption of innocence is lost in the proposal. The FBI will be allowed to begin investigations simply "by assuming that everyone's a suspect, and then you weed out the innocent," said Caroline Fredrickson of the American Civil Liberties Union.

Attorney General Michael Mukasey acknowledged the overhaul was under way in early June, saying the guidelines sought to ensure regulations for FBI terror investigations don't conflict with ones governing criminal probes. He would not give any details.

"It's necessary to put in place regulations that will allow the FBI to transform itself ... into an intelligence gathering organization in addition to just a crime solving organization," Mukasey told reporters.

The changes would allow FBI agents to ask open-ended questions about activities of Muslim- or Arab-Americans, or investigate them if their jobs and backgrounds match trends that analysts deem suspect.

FBI agents would not be allowed to eavesdrop on phone calls or dig deeply into personal data _ such as the content of phone or e-mail records or bank statements _ until a full investigation was opened.

The guidelines focus on the FBI's domestic operations and run about 40 pages long, several officials said. They do not specifically spell out what traits the FBI should use in building profiles.

One senior Justice Department official said agents have been allowed since 2003 to build "threat assessments" of Americans based on public records and information from informants. Such assessments could be used to open a preliminary investigation, the official said.

However, another official said the 2003 authorities are limited, tightly monitored by FBI headquarters in Washington and, overall, confusing to agents about how or when they can be used.

Justice spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said the guidelines governing when to open a national security investigation are part of a "harmonizing" process that will not give the FBI any more authority than it already has. He declined further comment, but he and two other senior Justice officials, would not deny the changes as they were described to AP by others familiar with the guidelines.

"Any review and change to the guidelines will reflect our traditional concerns for civil liberties and First Amendment liberties and our traditional investigative emphasis on using the least intrusive means feasible," Roehrkasse said Wednesday.

Although the guidelines do not require congressional approval, House members recently sought to limit such profiling by rejecting an $11 million request for the FBI's security assessment center. Lawmakers wrote it that was unclear how the FBI could compile suspect profiles "in such a way as to avoid needless intrusions into the privacy of innocent citizens" and without wasting time and money chasing down false leads.

The denial of funding could limit the FBI's use of profiles, or "predictive models and patterns of behavior" as the government prefers to describe the data-mining results, but would not change the guidelines authorizing them. The guidelines would remain in effect until a new attorney general decided to change them.

Courts across the country have overturned criminal convictions when defendants showed they were targeted based on race. Racial profiling generally is considered a civil rights violation, and former Attorney General John Ashcroft condemned it in March 2001 as an "unconstitutional deprivation of equal protection under our Constitution."

President Bush also has condemned racial profiling as "wrong in America" and in a December 2001 interview had harsh words for an airline that refused to let one of his Secret Service agents board a commercial flight. The agent was Arab-American. "If he was treated that way because of his ethnicity, that will make me madder than heck," Bush said.

Immediately after 9/11, hundreds of Muslims and Arabs were detained, deported and monitored as the government urgently sought information that could prevent another attack. Despite efforts to repair and nurture relationships with those groups, Muslim- and Arab-Americans still complain of being singled out by federal security practices.

Martin Redish, a constitutional and civil rights scholar at Northwestern University School of Law, said courts are likely to give the FBI a lot of leeway in deciding how to open national security investigations.

"But it's a very fine line to be drawn when the basis of the investigation is dominated by the ethnic background of the subject," Redish said. "And when the investigation results in harassment, you have a serious constitutional concern."

Citing Unabomber Theodore Kaczynski and Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh _ two white Americans _ the ACLU's Fredrickson said: "Profiling has sent us in the wrong direction. ... I thought we learned our lesson in that regard."


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- Chillinout I'm a Fan of Chillinout 125 fans permalink
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If this criminal administration continues to violate our rights like this, half of this country is going to become terrorist/­insurgents­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 07/03/2008

if the founding fathers were still alive, they'd be the first to take up arms

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 07/03/2008
- bayviking I'm a Fan of bayviking 32 fans permalink

finally getting around to using their time wisely.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 07/03/2008
- PixieThis I'm a Fan of PixieThis 53 fans permalink
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“Adding racial accusation to the standing difficulty does not serve one victim, feed a single child, inspire a single person,”

Charles Lyons

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 07/03/2008

Is that applicable to this thread?

I thought we were talking about profiling, as in, if you want information about motorcycles, don't Google "vehicles".

Profiling is a common sense way to narrow the search.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 07/03/2008
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Profiling is morally reprehensible, ethically indefensible, and highly illegal.

So there is no common sense involved, Betty Jo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 07/03/2008
- PixieThis I'm a Fan of PixieThis 53 fans permalink
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sweet-sue, I'm aware of your hatred and limitations in thinking. Racial profiling isn't a good tool to use and there are countless examples of people who would have never been caught using racial profiling.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 07/03/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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Imprison all Vikings!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 07/03/2008
- Nochnoi I'm a Fan of Nochnoi 130 fans permalink
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You would turn in your neighbors too.... wouldn't you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 07/03/2008
- Raymondf I'm a Fan of Raymondf 4 fans permalink

There has always been racial profiling, and always will be, because believe it or not this is still a racist country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 07/03/2008
- missusam I'm a Fan of missusam 8 fans permalink
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That is why it is on its death bed. Not divided can stand. America's foundation was corrupt from the beginning.­.

That is why the takeover is so easy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 07/03/2008
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That doesn't make it right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 07/03/2008
- doug108 I'm a Fan of doug108 19 fans permalink

Does anyone remember the FBI's national security letters and how the agency abused them? It's okay, though. They won't go overboard with these new powers.

Let's hear from the conservatives who keep saying that as long as you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about from government searches.

If we don't fight this police state now, we're doomed. The Republic is probably already over anyway, but let's at least try.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 07/03/2008
- PixieThis I'm a Fan of PixieThis 53 fans permalink
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“Nonviolence means avoiding not only external physical violence but also internal violence of spirit. You not only refuse to shoot a man, but you refuse to hate him.”

Martin Luther King, Jr.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 07/03/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1594 fans permalink
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But that would mean no more Limbaugh Program.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 07/03/2008
- PixieThis I'm a Fan of PixieThis 53 fans permalink
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Let's also remember that he won't retire until he's converted us all!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 07/03/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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He!l, it would doom Fox, and Coultergeist would have to go back to stripping for a living.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 07/03/2008
- OhMy I'm a Fan of OhMy permalink

$400,000,000 signing bonous and $32,000,000 a year. A Randi Rhodes he aint

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 07/03/2008
- PixieThis I'm a Fan of PixieThis 53 fans permalink
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Oh gee.....wh­at a shame....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 07/03/2008
- biwee I'm a Fan of biwee 13 fans permalink

The real terrorists are Khazars, and must be stopped at the border.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 07/03/2008
- GZLives I'm a Fan of GZLives 45 fans permalink

"The real terrorists are Khazars,"

Is that a new word you've learned today biwee and just wanted to impress all of us?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 07/03/2008
- biwee I'm a Fan of biwee 13 fans permalink

NO, smart people have known that word since Koestler wrote his book.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 07/03/2008
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Just profile friends of the Bush family. The bin Ladens and all the rest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 07/03/2008
- realtalk I'm a Fan of realtalk 13 fans permalink

Well I hope the include white people in the profiling as well because, as it was reported in a news article on ABC NEWS on June 20, 2008, TITLED: Intelligence Officials: Dozens of EUROPEANS have Trained In Terror Camps in Pakistan.
Officials Fear This Maybe the beggining of a news breed of Al -Qaeda Affiliated Terrorism.

I notice that this did not get wide spread covergae in the mains stream media, and it is disgraceful that they would NOT let the public know of this new threat so that we are better able to protect ourselves, by being aware, and, cautious.

READ THE ARTICLE ON ABCNEWS WEBSITE:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=5213783&page=1

(F YOU CANNOT FIND IT WITH THE LINK ABOVE, JUST GO TO ABCNEWS.CO­M, AND TYPE IN ``EUROPEAN TERRORISTS`` IN THE SEARCH BOX, AND YOU WILL FIND THE ARTICLE THERE)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 07/03/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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Well it got coverage on Fox. Silly as it is.

Just had a thought -- Maybe if all of the neocon enablers are hiding under their beds, gas prices will go down for those of us who don't have time to be panic-ridden! Hurray!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 07/03/2008

:""The result that we have today is not acceptable," said Rep. Pete Hoekstra, R-Mich. "You can't have those camps in place in Pakistan."

So...Obama was right about our policy of coddling Pakistan and not focusing attack efforts there being a problem?

Oh my.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 PM on 07/03/2008
- preatorius I'm a Fan of preatorius 8 fans permalink
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Since timothy mcveigh , terry nichols an d the unabomber have been involved in terrorist activity in the U.S., can we expect to see WHITE MEN on the list as well?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 07/03/2008
- evekendall I'm a Fan of evekendall 127 fans permalink
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Unconstitutional. Period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 07/03/2008

This is why WE MUST elect Barack Obama.

We have to gut the current InJustice Department and put someone like John Edwards in as AG.

And we sure as heck (watching out for the "Bad Word Filter") can't put any more Alitos, Scalias or Robertses on the Supreme Court.

To all the Ultra-Prog­s...Obama is the Answer....­McCain is not!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 07/03/2008
- Star123 I'm a Fan of Star123 2 fans permalink

What makes you think he is the answer...? He is for shielding the companies spying on us so he can get the campaign contributions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 07/03/2008
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That is a lie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 07/03/2008
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 267 fans permalink
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0bama voted for reauthorization of the Patriot Act.

He might say one thing to the Progs but in the real world there's evidence he gets it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 07/03/2008
- realtalk I'm a Fan of realtalk 13 fans permalink

Well I hope the include white people in the profiling as well because, as it was reported in a news article on ABC NEWS on June 20, 2008, TITLED: Intelligence Officials: Dozens of EUROPEANS have Trained In Terror Camps in Pakistan.
Officials Fear This Maybe the beggining of a news breed of Al -Qaeda Affiliated Terrorism.

I notice that this did not get wide spread covergae in the mains stream media, and it is disgraceful that they would NOT let the public know of this new threat so that we are better able to protect ourselves, by being aware, and, cautious.

READ THE ARTICLE ON ABCNEWS WEBSITE:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=5213783&page=1

(F YOU CANNOT FIND IT WITH THE LINK ABOVE, JUST GO TO ABCNEWS.CO­M, AND TYPE IN ``EUROPEAN TERRORISTS`` IN THE SEARCH BOX, AND YOU WILL FIND THE ARTICLE THERE)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 07/03/2008
- swanie I'm a Fan of swanie 36 fans permalink
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The "new" FBI approach to finding terrorists is a BLATANT VIOLATION of the Constitution, and many courts have already so stated.

But this is a chance for Barack to truly STRIKE OUT (strilke 1=FISA; strike 2=faith-based), and this could be STRIKE 3.

If he doesn't say something about how abhorrent this is, and state he will eliminate the policy, right after he fires the AG and the FBI Director, come January 21, 2009, then Barack does not deserve to lead me or anybody else anywhere!!!! Remember he is a Constitutional law professor, and he knows ! !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 07/03/2008
- Gordon I'm a Fan of Gordon 29 fans permalink
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Why not just post a link the actual proposed rules so we can all read them for ourselves?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 07/03/2008
- AdLib I'm a Fan of AdLib 277 fans permalink
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Rule 1. Confuse Gordon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 07/03/2008

For a moment there I thought it read confused Gordon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 07/03/2008

You see, ever one here can't read, so if the rules are posted, how will they read them?

That's why they have to post them in the story, it's easier for those who can't read.

Get it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 07/03/2008
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