Justice Department Considers Racial Profiling For Terror Prevention

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The Justice Department is considering letting the FBI investigate Americans without any evidence of wrongdoing, relying instead on a terrorist profile that could single out Muslims, Arabs or other racial and ethnic groups.

Law enforcement officials say the proposed policy would help them do exactly what Congress demanded after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks: root out terrorists before they strike.

Although President Bush has disavowed targeting suspects based on their race or ethnicity, the new rules would allow the FBI to consider those factors among a number of traits that could trigger a national security investigation.

Currently, FBI agents need specific reasons _ like evidence or allegations that a law probably has been violated _ to investigate U.S. citizens and legal residents. The new policy, law enforcement officials told The Associated Press, would let agents open preliminary terrorism investigations after mining public records and intelligence to build a profile of traits that, taken together, were deemed suspicious.

Among the factors that could make someone subject of an investigation is travel to regions of the world known for terrorist activity, access to weapons or military training, along with the person's race or ethnicity.

More than a half-dozen senior FBI, Justice Department and other U.S. intelligence officials familiar with the new policy agreed to discuss it only on condition of anonymity, either because they were not allowed to speak publicly or because the change is not yet final.

The change, which is expected later this summer, is part of an update of Justice Department policies known as the attorney general guidelines. They are being overhauled amid the FBI's transition from a traditional crime-fighting agency to one whose top mission is to protect America from terrorist attacks.

"We don't know what we don't know. And the object is to cut down on that," said one FBI official who defended the plans.

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Another official, while also defending the proposed guidelines, raised concerns about criticism during the presidential election year over what he called "the P word" _ profiling.

If adopted, the guidelines would be put in place in the final months of a presidential administration that has been dogged by criticism that its counterterror programs trample privacy rights and civil liberties.

Critics say the presumption of innocence is lost in the proposal. The FBI will be allowed to begin investigations simply "by assuming that everyone's a suspect, and then you weed out the innocent," said Caroline Fredrickson of the American Civil Liberties Union.

Attorney General Michael Mukasey acknowledged the overhaul was under way in early June, saying the guidelines sought to ensure regulations for FBI terror investigations don't conflict with ones governing criminal probes. He would not give any details.

"It's necessary to put in place regulations that will allow the FBI to transform itself ... into an intelligence gathering organization in addition to just a crime solving organization," Mukasey told reporters.

The changes would allow FBI agents to ask open-ended questions about activities of Muslim- or Arab-Americans, or investigate them if their jobs and backgrounds match trends that analysts deem suspect.

FBI agents would not be allowed to eavesdrop on phone calls or dig deeply into personal data _ such as the content of phone or e-mail records or bank statements _ until a full investigation was opened.

The guidelines focus on the FBI's domestic operations and run about 40 pages long, several officials said. They do not specifically spell out what traits the FBI should use in building profiles.

One senior Justice Department official said agents have been allowed since 2003 to build "threat assessments" of Americans based on public records and information from informants. Such assessments could be used to open a preliminary investigation, the official said.

However, another official said the 2003 authorities are limited, tightly monitored by FBI headquarters in Washington and, overall, confusing to agents about how or when they can be used.

Justice spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said the guidelines governing when to open a national security investigation are part of a "harmonizing" process that will not give the FBI any more authority than it already has. He declined further comment, but he and two other senior Justice officials, would not deny the changes as they were described to AP by others familiar with the guidelines.

"Any review and change to the guidelines will reflect our traditional concerns for civil liberties and First Amendment liberties and our traditional investigative emphasis on using the least intrusive means feasible," Roehrkasse said Wednesday.

Although the guidelines do not require congressional approval, House members recently sought to limit such profiling by rejecting an $11 million request for the FBI's security assessment center. Lawmakers wrote it that was unclear how the FBI could compile suspect profiles "in such a way as to avoid needless intrusions into the privacy of innocent citizens" and without wasting time and money chasing down false leads.

The denial of funding could limit the FBI's use of profiles, or "predictive models and patterns of behavior" as the government prefers to describe the data-mining results, but would not change the guidelines authorizing them. The guidelines would remain in effect until a new attorney general decided to change them.

Courts across the country have overturned criminal convictions when defendants showed they were targeted based on race. Racial profiling generally is considered a civil rights violation, and former Attorney General John Ashcroft condemned it in March 2001 as an "unconstitutional deprivation of equal protection under our Constitution."

President Bush also has condemned racial profiling as "wrong in America" and in a December 2001 interview had harsh words for an airline that refused to let one of his Secret Service agents board a commercial flight. The agent was Arab-American. "If he was treated that way because of his ethnicity, that will make me madder than heck," Bush said.

Immediately after 9/11, hundreds of Muslims and Arabs were detained, deported and monitored as the government urgently sought information that could prevent another attack. Despite efforts to repair and nurture relationships with those groups, Muslim- and Arab-Americans still complain of being singled out by federal security practices.

Martin Redish, a constitutional and civil rights scholar at Northwestern University School of Law, said courts are likely to give the FBI a lot of leeway in deciding how to open national security investigations.

"But it's a very fine line to be drawn when the basis of the investigation is dominated by the ethnic background of the subject," Redish said. "And when the investigation results in harassment, you have a serious constitutional concern."

Citing Unabomber Theodore Kaczynski and Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh _ two white Americans _ the ACLU's Fredrickson said: "Profiling has sent us in the wrong direction. ... I thought we learned our lesson in that regard."


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- plainsman I'm a Fan of plainsman 16 fans permalink
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Are we all de facto Muslims now, until proven otherwise?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 07/03/2008
- Marlyn I'm a Fan of Marlyn 79 fans permalink
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No, that would be religious profiling.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 07/03/2008
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The FBI's top mission should be to protect US all from the domestic terrorists in the White House!!

Hopefully our new Atty Gen will go after Darth's gang, knowing that the GWOT was a smokescreen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 07/03/2008

A smokescreen for what?

This ought to be good...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 07/03/2008
- BronxBorn I'm a Fan of BronxBorn 50 fans permalink
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oil

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 07/03/2008
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Read the PNAC Manifesto & get back to me.

There will be a pop quiz.

Spelling will count.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 07/03/2008
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Profiteering & Privatization.

How's the water froggie??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 07/03/2008
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 263 fans permalink
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Over the past three decades, 100% of successful airplane hijackings have been conducted by arabic men, traveling alone on foreign passports.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 07/03/2008
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Does that include all of the hijackings to CUBA?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 07/03/2008
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 263 fans permalink
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Good answer, Blue. But no, I was just speaking of US aircraft, since our topic is counter-terror profiling in America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 07/03/2008

Shhhh!

Liberals see the world as they wish it were, not as it is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 07/03/2008
- BronxBorn I'm a Fan of BronxBorn 50 fans permalink
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Mirror mirror on the wall...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 07/03/2008
- BabsfromKS I'm a Fan of BabsfromKS 14 fans permalink
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Facts, please?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 07/03/2008
- Forsetti I'm a Fan of Forsetti 66 fans permalink
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You might want to do a little research on this because your claim is 100% false.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 07/03/2008
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He just makes stuff up. Funny stuff, sometimes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 07/03/2008
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 324 fans permalink
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Please describe the "arabic" look.
Then think about how many other ethnicities fit that description.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 07/03/2008
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 263 fans permalink
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Sorry. I meant "muslim men."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 07/03/2008

What do you suggest?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 07/03/2008
- peacekitten I'm a Fan of peacekitten 575 fans permalink
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"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.­"

---Martin Luther King, August 28, 1963, on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial

these words were spoken nearly thirty five years ago by a man who ultimately died because of the color of his skin.

it's very disappointing to know that so many years later, this country has so openly slid back into the very same things that dr. king devoted his life to purging from our national thought.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 07/03/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1568 fans permalink
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And we just got through apologizing for what we did to people of Japanese origin after Pearl Harbor.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 07/03/2008
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Sorry peacekitten, but reality have a different color name Harsh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 07/03/2008

What about home grown terrorist, you know that ones that blow up federal buildings?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 07/03/2008
- ann1 I'm a Fan of ann1 12 fans permalink

Try the color "HATE". You can't always see it, but it's there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 07/03/2008
- peacekitten I'm a Fan of peacekitten 575 fans permalink
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does that mean we should throw up our hands and give up trying to do what's right? i don't think so. no matter what anyone says, there is still a difference between right and wrong. and i am not so cowardly as to go with the flow. even though my parents came from different countries, i am about as white as they come, and blonde to boot. i will never support such ridiculous policies as these. this administration is breaking our own laws, and they need to be held accountable for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 07/03/2008
- CEDobson I'm a Fan of CEDobson 6 fans permalink
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peacekitten:

Every time I read one of your posts, I like you more and more. I am really glad you posted MLK's quote.

Just when I begin to think that racism in America is taking a turn for the better, reading blogs wreaking with racist undertones brings me back to reality. For this reason alone, this "law" should not pass, especially because our government is mostly white male dominant.

I am not certain at this point which is worse, the government sneaking around while investigating whomever they choose, or putting the practice into law. Either way, our rights are being violated in the name of Homeland Security.

Each and every time another law passes, George Orwell's brilliance shines through like a beacon to all. C.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 07/03/2008
- peacekitten I'm a Fan of peacekitten 575 fans permalink
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thank you, my friend, for your kind words. the sheer meanness of the right wing has, i think, allowed people to think it's okay to be judgmental, prejudicial, violent, and full of hate. i can't understand it for the life of me. and i'll never accept it either.

if we don't stand by our own laws, what do we stand by? i keep hammering at the idea that we are a nations of laws, and not of men, but i am not so sure that many people understand the significance of that.

as someone far wiser than myself once said, "i'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 07/03/2008
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No. He didn't die because of the color of his skin. He was killed because of the content of his character -- which was a beacon of truth and hope for a majority of the American population.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 07/03/2008
- peacekitten I'm a Fan of peacekitten 575 fans permalink
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yes. his character WAS judged by the color of his skin and NOT by the content of his character, which is precisely what is contained in the words he spoke.

just how colorblind do you really think the american deep south was in 1963?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 07/03/2008
- Gordon I'm a Fan of Gordon 28 fans permalink
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Why doesn't the FBI just profile the terrorists?

Sheesh. How hard is that? They're freakin' TERRORISTS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 07/03/2008
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LOL!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 07/03/2008

That is the problem my friend. There are very few 'terrorists' around these days. There are tons of people living in the middle east who are trying to protect their homeland (in iraq, afghanistan, palistine, etc.). For one reason or another we call them terrorists. If someone invaded the US and you tried to defend yourself by any means possible, even that of IED, you, by this logic, would be a terrorist. There are many people who the US think are terrorists or think will commit terrorist acts. The whole thing is a sham and the longer the war wages the more angry people will people and the greater the likelihood of there being another terrorist attack (or more correctly, revenge attack) on US soil. The same goes for Guantanamo Bay and its captives. Each of these innocents is going to be pissed and so are their friends and families. So in essence, there are going to be more terrorists today and tomorrow than there was yesterday thanks to an idiotic strategy on behalf on the americans. Now they feel if they can only jail (or kill) all the brown people they will be safe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 07/03/2008

In response to Gordon,

Hell, Tim McVeigh was a terrorist, were WHITE MEN PROFILED as TERRORIST?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 07/03/2008

"Tim McVeigh was a terrorist, were WHITE MEN PROFILED as TERRORIST?"

Were ALL priests profiled as pedophiles?

Rounding & roughing up...rapin­g & pillaging people because of the color of their skin! ... is what AMERICA was founded on ... from sea to shining sea ... and beyond ... to what lies beneath MIDDLE EASTERN lands ... let NO Muslim/Arab get in our way to the OIL!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 07/03/2008
- robodweeb I'm a Fan of robodweeb 116 fans permalink
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The last six months of job loss wasn't due to Muslims, was it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 07/03/2008
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Only indirectly, since the threat of IslamoTerrorism was the excuse

to begin their Privatization, Profiteering and Promulgation plans!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 07/03/2008
- Gordon I'm a Fan of Gordon 28 fans permalink
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Yep. Midwest flooding too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 07/03/2008
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Mine was.....

I worked at Zankou Chicken.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 07/03/2008

http://thesebastards.blogspot.com/2008/07/did-you-wake-up-and-shudder-this.html

Thanks George, don't forget to burn everything to the ground and salt the earth on your way out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 07/03/2008
- musselmanm I'm a Fan of musselmanm 19 fans permalink
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If he salts the earth, will it kill the smell of sulpher?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 07/03/2008

Almost 7 years and we still don't know what we don't know. Where oh where did all that time, money, and energy go? And we even have a whole new department to try to 'get to the bottom' of intelligence. Heck of a job, Chertoff.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 AM on 07/03/2008
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Like they haven't been doing this all along? BushCo legitimizes itself retroactively

as it proceeds on the straight path to corporate fascism. Treasonous criminals!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 AM on 07/03/2008
- peacekitten I'm a Fan of peacekitten 575 fans permalink
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booosh will never be legitimate. ever. or his sniveling cronies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 07/03/2008
- Marlyn I'm a Fan of Marlyn 79 fans permalink
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Exactly.

FASCISM = a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 07/03/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1568 fans permalink
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First They Came for the J_e_ws
__________­__________­__

First they came for the J e w s
and I did not speak out
because I was not a J e w.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.


Pastor Martin Niemöller




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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 07/03/2008
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After the fact, it was learned that the Nazis could only handle a tenth of the

population control that the German people were assuming the Nazis had.

The real control was fear & intimidation, much like a sheep dog operates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 07/03/2008
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Two words. Timothy McViegh. Two words. White boy. Two words. Aryan Nation. Two words. White supremacist. Two words. Dallas ricin.

We are at more of a terrorist threat from home-grown tomatoes than muslims right now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 AM on 07/03/2008
- plainsman I'm a Fan of plainsman 16 fans permalink
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What? You are you advocating that the Homegrown Terrorist Act be passed? Any rights we might still have would go *poof*.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 07/03/2008
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What rights? You mean the ones you are willing to deny non-whites? If you profile, you are denying rights. If you deny rights to one, America has failed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 07/03/2008
- GZLives I'm a Fan of GZLives 41 fans permalink

I'd sure like to know how you come to this conclusion?
Is it by smelling the air?
Reading the newspapers?
Is it a personal observation?
Talking to friends ... ?
Tell us where you found the evidence to reach such a conclusion because it flies in the face of all the evidence I've seen ....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 07/03/2008

I wouldn't say that is true simply because the media has done such a great job of instilling fear and fierce nationalism in americans that they are too pissed at the brown foreigners to realize their true enemy sits in a castle surrounded by loyal henchmen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 07/03/2008
- rigormrtis I'm a Fan of rigormrtis 13 fans permalink
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one word:

exception

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 07/03/2008
- qdog112 I'm a Fan of qdog112 68 fans permalink
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The exception is that those occurrences, far outnumber the acts of foreign terrorists

Susan Smith .will head the new program.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 07/03/2008

Wrong. White people aren't terrorists, even when they are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 07/03/2008
- ToeJamSam I'm a Fan of ToeJamSam 13 fans permalink
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Profiling is merely acknowledging the obvious. It wasn't blond-haired blue-eyed Norwegians who did 9/11. It isn't Catholics and Methodists who are trying hard to kill our sons and daughters in Iraq and Afghanistan-- or Somalia. It isn't the Amish who get spun up about jihad and 700 virgins awaiting them after a "successful" suicide!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 07/03/2008
- robodweeb I'm a Fan of robodweeb 116 fans permalink
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I suspect it we invaded a Catholic country and destoyed it those Catholics would be mighty upset.

But suppose the resurgent al Qaeda that we've ignored start using western-looking terrorists.

Who ya gonna single out then?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 07/03/2008
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 263 fans permalink
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We'll single out western-looking people who communicate with Al Qaeda.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 07/03/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1568 fans permalink
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And it was not Mexicans who attacked us at Pearl Harbor. That is why we had to round up all people of Japanese origin and put them in camps.

Oh! wait. Didn't we just get through apologizing for that? Didn't we just get through saying how wrong that was and never again, never again, no mo, no mo...?

BTW, it is our sons and daughters who are in Iraq and Afghanistan, for the purpose of killing Iraqis and Afghans. Iraqis and Afghans are not here killing us.


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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 07/03/2008
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9/11 was committed by 19 religious fanatics with BOXCUTTERS­... & they have managed to turn this country UPSIDE DOWN & cause people like yourself to DESTROY eveyrthing this country stands for in the process.

They played you ignoramus's like penny whistles.

BTW... I thought that I thought our "sons & daughters" were sent to Iraq & Afghanistan to kill THEM.... not the other way around...

So You guys have managed to destroy an entire GENERATION of Americans to boot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 07/03/2008

So true ToeJam. I get a kick out of my daughter being shaken down in the airport as well as my little old mother. This country is so tied in knots over admitting who the real bad guys are here. We know who want's to kill us and destroy our country. We are just too chicken $hit to come out and say it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 07/03/2008

"We know who want's to kill us and destroy our country. We are just too chicken $hit to come out and say it."

But I thought "we're fighting them there, so we don't have to fight them here" in our airports?

So what should we do? Round up ALL brown-skinned individuals (just to be on the SAFE side)? I'm sure YOU won't mind your flights being delayed several days while ALL brown-skinned individuals get their full-body-cavity stip searches?

Or, as will soon be the case in ATLANTA Airport, we'll just rely on gun-toting, trigger-happy travelers to "profile" brown-skinned "terrorists" with pistol-pakin power! ... "root 'em out BEFORE they strike"!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 07/03/2008
- blueshield I'm a Fan of blueshield 79 fans permalink

uhhhh...Ka­scynski, McVeigh, Nichols?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 07/03/2008
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Koresh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 07/03/2008
- ann1 I'm a Fan of ann1 12 fans permalink

Eric Robert Rudolph!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 07/03/2008
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All this whining about racial profiling.­.. paaallleeeeze.

They used racial profiling back in 1944 and the Supreme Court okay'd it... Hence, hundreds of thousands of Japanese Americans were prevented from attacking us. And have they attacked us since? No. So, racial profiling works. And that Japanese girl, what's her name? Oh yes, Michelle Malkin agrees.

And since 9/11, when Bush began his war on terror, we've reduced terrorism by imprisoning them in Guantanamo Bay. And have they attacked us since? No. Why? Because all the terrorists are being detained..­.

Two times in our country's history that we can look at hold our chins up high... there are many more instances which can be found here:

http://civilliberty.about.com/od/lawenforcementterrorism/tp/History-of-Racial-Profiling.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 07/03/2008
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Everything old is NEW again!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 07/03/2008
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Yeah, even bell bottoms and those shirts that look like maternity tops, we called peasant shirts back in my time...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 07/03/2008
- robodweeb I'm a Fan of robodweeb 116 fans permalink
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Wow, such delusion.

The Japanese haven't attacked us again because we put some in internment camps?

Terrorism is up, by the way. All the terrorists are not being detained or haven't you heard that Al Qaeda has rebuilt. Oh, you listen to Malkin. That explains it.

Terrorists trained in Iraq are returning to their sanctuary to plan the next attack.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 07/03/2008
- Marlyn I'm a Fan of Marlyn 79 fans permalink
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"All this whining about racial profiling.­.. paaallleee­eze." ???

You have just exhibited the power of precedent, that if something has happened before, right or wrong, then it is ok to do it again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 07/03/2008
- peacekitten I'm a Fan of peacekitten 575 fans permalink
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michelle's parents are filipino. she was born in new jersey. she openly supported the racial profiling of japanese people during world war II.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 07/03/2008
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Southpawsass says,

"And have they attacked us since? No. So, racial profiling works. And that Japanese girl, what's her name? Oh yes, Michelle Malkin agrees."

I'm not a fan of Michelle Malkin, so anyway.
She is not a "girl" she is a grown women.
And she's not Japanese.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 07/03/2008
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I know, but if I'm to play the part of an ignoramous, Limbaugh/H­annity/O'R­eilly fan, I needed to go all the way...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 07/03/2008
- Daly I'm a Fan of Daly 19 fans permalink

Timothy McVeigh

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 07/03/2008

If the problem were illegal hunting out of season in the backwoods of Texas, it would be perfectly reasonable to profile scruffy looking white men wearing baseball hats with grain store logos.

Profiling works just like the famous Willie Sutton line when asked why he robs banks. "That's where the money is."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 07/03/2008
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Bank Robbery is against the law.

Profiling is against our Constitution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 07/03/2008
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