Obama: Media Response To Iraq Remarks Overblown

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JENNIFER LOVEN | July 5, 2008 10:33 PM EST | AP

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Reporters hold up their voice recorders while listening to Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., during a media availability in his campaign charter en route to St. Louis, Mo., Saturday, July 5, 2008. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)

ST. LOUIS — Barack Obama celebrated "active faith" as an obligation of religious Americans and a chief agent of societal change while speaking Saturday to a nearly all-black roomful of churchgoers, but hoping to reach far beyond them.

Earlier in the day as he flew from Montana to Missouri, Obama told reporters he was surprised at how the media has "finely calibrated" his recent words on Iraq, and reaffirmed his commitment to ending the war if elected.

Making a less than two-hour stop in the battleground state of Missouri, the Democratic presidential nominee implored the thousands attending a national meeting of the African Methodist Episcopal Church, one of the nation's largest and most politically and civically active black denominations, to help fix national and local ills.

He preached individual responsibility, saying he knew he risked criticism for "blaming the victim" by talking of the need for parents to help children with homework and turn off the TV, to pass on a healthy self-image to daughters, and teach boys both to respect women and "realize that responsibility does not end at conception."

But Obama's main message was the government's duty to address what he said are "moral problems" _ such as war, poverty, joblessness, homelessness, violent streets and crumbling schools _ and to employ religious institutions to do it.

"As long as we're not doing everything in our individual and collective power to solve the challenges we face, the conscience of our nation cannot rest," he said.

Obama, who has made history by becoming the first black major-party presidential nominee, made frequent references to the civil rights movement and continuing struggles in the black community.

"We are not constrained by the accident of birth but can make of our lives what we will," Obama said. He was greeted when he arrived in the vast hall by the most thunderous cheering, waving and screaming that he has heard all week.

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It was also his most enthusiastic delivery of late, employing preacher's cadences that were interrupted frequently by "Amens" and "yes."

Obama repeatedly referenced his religious faith in terms that would be familiar to white evangelicals as well as his black audience. Obama has highlighted faith and personal story over the past week as he campaigned in one-time GOP strongholds and talked more about God, country, and service than about rival Republican John McCain.

He hopes to draw more support from evangelical Christian voters than is typical for Democratic presidential candidates. Analysts are skeptical he can do that because of his support for abortion, gay rights and other issues.

And Obama was perplexed that his statement on Iraq was dissected as it was.

"I was a little puzzled by the frenzy that I set off by what I thought was a pretty innocuous statement," he said. "I am absolutely committed to ending the war."

On Thursday in North Dakota, Obama said that "I'll ... continue to refine my policy" on Iraq after an upcoming trip there. With a promise to end the war the central premise of his candidacy, the Obama campaign has struggled over the past two days to push back against Republicans and others who say his recent statement could be a softening or change in policy.

Obama has always said his promise to end the war would require consultations with military commanders and, possibly, flexibility.

"The tactics of how we ensure our troops are safe as we pull out, how we execute the withdrawal, those are things that are all based on facts and conditions," he said. "I am not somebody _ unlike George Bush _ who is willing to ignore facts on the basis of my preconceived notions."

McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds said Obama needs to "understand that his words matter."

"We are all absolutely committed to ending this war, but on Thursday Barack Obama's words indicated that he also shared John McCains commitment to securing the peace beforehand," he said.

The Illinois senator also said he and rival-turned-ally Hillary Rodham Clinton plan to raise money together in a series of fundraisers in New York during the coming week.

Two events are scheduled for Wednesday night _ one for his campaign and one to help Clinton pay off debts from her primary race against him. A third, for Obama, is a cash-collecting breakfast Thursday morning with women.

The fundraisers will be the first joint appearances by the former foes since their lovefest in Unity, N.H., on June 27.

Obama said his aides and those to former President Clinton are still arranging their first campaign appearances together. What role Bill Clinton will play in Obama's campaign has been a glaring question mark ever since the former president made comments earlier this year that Obama's supporters said injected race into the nomination contest.

Obama plans to campaign next week in North Carolina, Georgia and Virginia, all Southern states that have been the province of Republicans but where his campaign thinks he can make inroads _ or even win _ in part because of their large black populations.

It "would be pretty foolish" not to try, Obama said.

"Democrats can't shrink the map and win," he told reporters. "The solid South for Republicans is part of that shrinkage of the map. ... I want to be greedy."

Before leaving Montana, Obama spoke via satellite to a conference of the National Education Association, the largest teachers union.

ST. LOUIS — Barack Obama celebrated "active faith" as an obligation of religious Americans and a chief agent of societal change while speaking Saturday to a nearly all-black roomful of churchgoe...
ST. LOUIS — Barack Obama celebrated "active faith" as an obligation of religious Americans and a chief agent of societal change while speaking Saturday to a nearly all-black roomful of churchgoe...
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- zull2 I'm a Fan of zull2 38 fans permalink
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Would this be what some progressives really wanted to hear? "I'm planning a trip to Iraq, but no matter what I see there, no matter what I'm told by the soldiers there, nothing will change my policy on this war!"

Because that's exactly the way George W. Bush thinks...b­ut in reverse. It should make perfect sense to anyone that the guy who would be making the decisions involving policy should at least have some moderate exposure to the situation at hand, instead of just taking policy adviser's positions verbatim. There were even some who actually thought "Don't go to Iraq, Obama! Don't let McCain trick you into going there!". That is completely irrational thinking. The next president of this country is going to be clobbered by some major responsibilities. You don't just shirk them in order to appear "defiant".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 07/05/2008
- Sabreen60 I'm a Fan of Sabreen60 63 fans permalink
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We need to get out of Iraq, period - full stop (I got that from O...) There will NEVER be peace in a Muslim country with a foreign military base in their country. I repeat. NO M uslim country is going to allow a foreign military base in their country. Would we allow some country to put their military base in our country? If you can answer no then apply the same answer to the middle east. This is not rocket science. If we want to stop the blood shed and lost of out treasure than we have got to get out of Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 07/05/2008
- amst I'm a Fan of amst 9 fans permalink

Anyone who can't see what the media doing is truly out of the loop. Think about it. how freekin' many flip flops did Ol' man McCain make? And, how much attention did the MSM give it?????NONE. Don't you wonder why? This guy has had such a free ride from day one. he's the media darling. They WANT Obama to lose. They are not unbiased at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 07/05/2008
- meleon I'm a Fan of meleon 7 fans permalink
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Obama, I agree with ya.

Obama 08'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 07/05/2008
- jazzman I'm a Fan of jazzman 236 fans permalink
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Some advice for Barack:

When it comes to FISA - don't compromise on immunity.
When it comes General Clark's words - don't turn your back on him for saying that getting shot down doesn't necessarily qualify one to be President.
When it comes to women - Don't start hedging on the right for women to control their bodies
When it comes to the Iraq War - Don't start finessing the issue
When it comes to gun rights - think of the 12 year old boys lying dead in the streets of the South Side of Chicago.

You need to take stock, dig in, and show your strength by sticking by what you first presented yourself as. Your run to the middle is going to be the biggest opportunity for Republicans to paint you as wimply, wussy, naive and unprincipled.

Right now, you who masterfully put together a primary campaign are headed in the wrong direction. As they say in basketball, "It's time to get you A game on. " Right now you're starting to look like the Lakers during the last game in Boston.

As the Zen Master says, "Come to center."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 07/05/2008

He won the primary, trust him to win the election and quit trying to tell him what to do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 PM on 07/05/2008
- JadedAggie I'm a Fan of JadedAggie 9 fans permalink

The media is keen on keeping the contest close and has pushed the Republican talking points for months now. It's clear the remarks he made are in line with what he has been saying since the beginning of the democratic primary. They are shifting the position that the Clinton campaign took onto him and have done so with a few issues actually. He has always maintained that his time line was open to change based on what the generals on the ground said, but that his overall order of getting troops out as quickly and safely as possible would remain the same.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 07/05/2008
- coba I'm a Fan of coba permalink

i agree significantly overblown

http://sensico.wordpress.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 07/05/2008

This is a prime example of what’s wrong with the Media

I am very surprised that MSNBC / NBC would allowed this type of unprofessional behavior

Joe Scarborough should actually be suspended. Is this what this show was intended for?

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/07/04/race-to-the-white-house-for-joe-scarborough-when-all-else-fails-insult-as-much-as-possible/#respond

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 07/05/2008
- theone718 I'm a Fan of theone718 23 fans permalink
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When I watched that my jaw dropped and I am a man. I said to myself is THAT the only way he can rebutt an argument that owned him? He is a disgrace to journalism and should be forced to publically apologize.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 07/05/2008
- Wary I'm a Fan of Wary permalink

I wrote MSNBC as soon as that Joe show was over! I was outraged! And his sexist comment to Rachel Maddow on her laughing was 'the Clinton cackle" oh, I was livid over that one!

I write MSNBC all the time about their ''unprofessional' behavior'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 07/05/2008
- MrsPeel I'm a Fan of MrsPeel 51 fans permalink
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MSNBC has lost it. I used to care enough to write them, but I don't watch that much of them anymore.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 07/05/2008
- IowaKid I'm a Fan of IowaKid 18 fans permalink
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The republicans are trying to pick anything and everything that Obama says because they DON'T HAVE A PLATFORM TO RUN ON.... Oh sorry they have platform if you want a 3rd TERM Bush......­. No McSame for me. Go Obama your doing just fine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 07/05/2008
- rosal I'm a Fan of rosal 318 fans permalink
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Too bad many in the country still doesn't know the MSM is nothing but a charade. Anything that brings ratings, and of course, the bottom line, is fair game for them. It doesn't matter if statements made are consistent with O's stated policies they will twist them, just as long as they have a naive audience who believs the spin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 07/05/2008
- FebM I'm a Fan of FebM 39 fans permalink

Obama, the flip-flopper? Give me a break
Obama on faith-based initiatives, January 2008: role that faith and faith-based programs could play in confronting social ills. Isn’t your view on that similar to George W. Bush’s?

"No, I don't think so, because I am much more concerned with maintaining the line between church and state. And I believe that, for the most part, we can facilitate the excellent work that's done by faith-based institutions when it comes to substance abuse treatment or prison ministries­.... I think much of this work can be done in a way that doesn't conflict with church and state. I think George Bush is less concerned about that."

"My general criteria is that if a congregation or a church or synagogue or a mosque or a temple wants to provide social services and use government funds, then they should be able to structure it in a way that all people are able to access those services and that we're not seeing government dollars used to proselytiz­e."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/5/13146/00395/160/546980

Shame on MSM

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 07/05/2008
- Gma11 I'm a Fan of Gma11 12 fans permalink

"As long as we're not doing everything in our individual and collective power to solve the challenges we face, the conscience of our nation cannot rest," he said.

I've been waiting a long time for a Democrat to speak like this, combining individual responsibility AND collective power. Finally. Yes we can.

In Missouri today - and North Carolina, Georgia, and Virginia next week!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 07/05/2008
- NER I'm a Fan of NER 15 fans permalink

I agree-- this point by Obama is inspiring!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 07/05/2008
- pesfb I'm a Fan of pesfb 6 fans permalink
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This nation has no conscience, else we wouldn't be constantly trying to dictate to the rest of the world or making power grabs of the natural resources of other countries to fill our insatiable appetite for more of everything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 07/05/2008
- FogBelter I'm a Fan of FogBelter 274 fans permalink
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As a Nation, we have to understand that our efforts in Iraq are solely for the benefit of Multinational Corporations ... not for the people of the United States who are bearing the burden in blood and treasure ... nor the people of Iraq who are the victims of the Bush Administration's benevolence.

We need to get out because there is no ultimate success possible. Americans there - whether Military personnel, Government Administrators, or Private Sector employees - will always be seen as usurpers. We invaded Iraq, and are responsible for the collapse of their infrastructure, the destruction of cities, the refugee status of millions of Iraqis, and the deaths of hundreds of thousands, if not over a million of them.

At no point did the Bush Administration view the Iraqi people as human beings ... at no point did they exhibit any empathy for their situation or condition. The Administration had the goal of aiding and abetting the theft of Iraqi oil by the Western Oil Cartel ... the people there were considered little more than a nuisance if not outright vermin.

In their hearts, the Iraqi people understand Americans, by their very actions, are not their friends, and their Arab neighbors recognize that Americans are not to be trusted, even if outwardly cooperation is necessary. This translates into no long term success for Americans in Iraq.

CONT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 07/05/2008
- FogBelter I'm a Fan of FogBelter 274 fans permalink
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CONT

We can stay their for 100 years, but the outcome will be the same ... if we leave then ... Iraq will be a nightmare, if we leave now ... Iraq will be a nightmare, if we stay ... Iraq will be a nightmare.

Obama needs to be clear ... there is no benefit in America staying in Iraq, in the short term or the long term. When Obama speaks to General Petreaus, he needs to ask for his insights into the current situation ... then ask him to describe his strategy for moving the troops out. Obama can't afford to be ambiguous on this matter, it only hurts him ... if he pulls an LBJ, and escalates the Iraq War, which staying will do, he will suffer the same fate ... LBJ's domestic agenda was crushed and opportunity for expanding his Great Society programs squandered.

In short ... Obama MUST hammer home the fact that as President this war ends ... period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 AM on 07/06/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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darn the "liberal media bias"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 07/05/2008

Thats just an excuse that the corporate sponsored, republican leaning right wing media wants you to believe.

There is no liberal bias in the media when the media itself is the frontrunner of the republican party and their neocon nutjobs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 07/05/2008
- Peteyman I'm a Fan of Peteyman 2 fans permalink

She was being sarcastic

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 07/05/2008

http://www.ap.org/newsvalues/index.html

AP needs to read its rules and values again... maybe they should memorize it

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 07/05/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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MSM - Middle School 'Merikuh

oversensationalize every syllable out of BO and MO's mouths

Free Pass for MkKain 95% of the time

yeah, I think we get the picture

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 07/05/2008
- harriscrl3 I'm a Fan of harriscrl3 191 fans permalink

Of course he is committed ot ending the war. He wants to fix this country and it CANT happen unless this war is brought to an end. So I'm not worried. McCain and company wants to remain in Iraq so they can Ravage it for oil to feed our addiction. Because our addiction keeps them rich. Its NOT about American national security unless you consider running out of oil and stealing from a country that has it part of our national security. I frankly dont believe anything that this administration and McCain says as far as Iraq being a danger to America. I doubt Al Queada in Iraq is more of a problem than in Afghanistan yet Iraq is like Al Queada central for them. They can keep lying and saying Iraq is a threat or Iran is a threat. I dont believe them for a second the only threat is the Fascism that they have implemented or continued.

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 07/05/2008
- sandtats I'm a Fan of sandtats 2 fans permalink

"Dearly departed" as far as I'm concerned, as in out of my consciouness; as in I do not read her poorly written, poorly researched, biased writing" and reporting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 07/05/2008
- pfc1369 I'm a Fan of pfc1369 98 fans permalink
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Poorly written? Man, talk about pot & kettles!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 07/05/2008

WOW you are all over the place. You have nothing of substance to bring to this post.

Many of us have real major concerns but apparently your objective is to go around grading everyone’s' post.

What, do you attention?????

Are you feeling neglected?????

Are you trying to find a way to make yourself feel special???????????

What is it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 07/05/2008
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