Obama: Media Response To Iraq Remarks Overblown

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JENNIFER LOVEN | July 5, 2008 10:33 PM EST | AP

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Reporters hold up their voice recorders while listening to Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., during a media availability in his campaign charter en route to St. Louis, Mo., Saturday, July 5, 2008. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)

ST. LOUIS — Barack Obama celebrated "active faith" as an obligation of religious Americans and a chief agent of societal change while speaking Saturday to a nearly all-black roomful of churchgoers, but hoping to reach far beyond them.

Earlier in the day as he flew from Montana to Missouri, Obama told reporters he was surprised at how the media has "finely calibrated" his recent words on Iraq, and reaffirmed his commitment to ending the war if elected.

Making a less than two-hour stop in the battleground state of Missouri, the Democratic presidential nominee implored the thousands attending a national meeting of the African Methodist Episcopal Church, one of the nation's largest and most politically and civically active black denominations, to help fix national and local ills.

He preached individual responsibility, saying he knew he risked criticism for "blaming the victim" by talking of the need for parents to help children with homework and turn off the TV, to pass on a healthy self-image to daughters, and teach boys both to respect women and "realize that responsibility does not end at conception."

But Obama's main message was the government's duty to address what he said are "moral problems" _ such as war, poverty, joblessness, homelessness, violent streets and crumbling schools _ and to employ religious institutions to do it.

"As long as we're not doing everything in our individual and collective power to solve the challenges we face, the conscience of our nation cannot rest," he said.

Obama, who has made history by becoming the first black major-party presidential nominee, made frequent references to the civil rights movement and continuing struggles in the black community.

"We are not constrained by the accident of birth but can make of our lives what we will," Obama said. He was greeted when he arrived in the vast hall by the most thunderous cheering, waving and screaming that he has heard all week.

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It was also his most enthusiastic delivery of late, employing preacher's cadences that were interrupted frequently by "Amens" and "yes."

Obama repeatedly referenced his religious faith in terms that would be familiar to white evangelicals as well as his black audience. Obama has highlighted faith and personal story over the past week as he campaigned in one-time GOP strongholds and talked more about God, country, and service than about rival Republican John McCain.

He hopes to draw more support from evangelical Christian voters than is typical for Democratic presidential candidates. Analysts are skeptical he can do that because of his support for abortion, gay rights and other issues.

And Obama was perplexed that his statement on Iraq was dissected as it was.

"I was a little puzzled by the frenzy that I set off by what I thought was a pretty innocuous statement," he said. "I am absolutely committed to ending the war."

On Thursday in North Dakota, Obama said that "I'll ... continue to refine my policy" on Iraq after an upcoming trip there. With a promise to end the war the central premise of his candidacy, the Obama campaign has struggled over the past two days to push back against Republicans and others who say his recent statement could be a softening or change in policy.

Obama has always said his promise to end the war would require consultations with military commanders and, possibly, flexibility.

"The tactics of how we ensure our troops are safe as we pull out, how we execute the withdrawal, those are things that are all based on facts and conditions," he said. "I am not somebody _ unlike George Bush _ who is willing to ignore facts on the basis of my preconceived notions."

McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds said Obama needs to "understand that his words matter."

"We are all absolutely committed to ending this war, but on Thursday Barack Obama's words indicated that he also shared John McCains commitment to securing the peace beforehand," he said.

The Illinois senator also said he and rival-turned-ally Hillary Rodham Clinton plan to raise money together in a series of fundraisers in New York during the coming week.

Two events are scheduled for Wednesday night _ one for his campaign and one to help Clinton pay off debts from her primary race against him. A third, for Obama, is a cash-collecting breakfast Thursday morning with women.

The fundraisers will be the first joint appearances by the former foes since their lovefest in Unity, N.H., on June 27.

Obama said his aides and those to former President Clinton are still arranging their first campaign appearances together. What role Bill Clinton will play in Obama's campaign has been a glaring question mark ever since the former president made comments earlier this year that Obama's supporters said injected race into the nomination contest.

Obama plans to campaign next week in North Carolina, Georgia and Virginia, all Southern states that have been the province of Republicans but where his campaign thinks he can make inroads _ or even win _ in part because of their large black populations.

It "would be pretty foolish" not to try, Obama said.

"Democrats can't shrink the map and win," he told reporters. "The solid South for Republicans is part of that shrinkage of the map. ... I want to be greedy."

Before leaving Montana, Obama spoke via satellite to a conference of the National Education Association, the largest teachers union.

ST. LOUIS — Barack Obama celebrated "active faith" as an obligation of religious Americans and a chief agent of societal change while speaking Saturday to a nearly all-black roomful of churchgoe...
ST. LOUIS — Barack Obama celebrated "active faith" as an obligation of religious Americans and a chief agent of societal change while speaking Saturday to a nearly all-black roomful of churchgoe...
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- pfc1369 I'm a Fan of pfc1369 97 fans permalink
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Surely you know that media reaction will ALWAYS be overblown.

That's why you gotta correct for the wind, Barry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 07/05/2008

show a bit of respect. private.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 07/05/2008
- pfc1369 I'm a Fan of pfc1369 97 fans permalink
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That's private FIRST CLASS, son.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 07/05/2008
- SeaOats I'm a Fan of SeaOats 2 fans permalink

Every aspect of the primaries, and now the general election, has been overblown by the media.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 07/05/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

refine: make more precise

Maybe it's a language thing. They don't know what "refine" means.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 07/05/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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they don't even know what "define" means

maybe "refine" is too 'leetust

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 07/05/2008

they are making BO a stronger person so he will know how to choose his words amongst world leaders...­. McKain has conceded defeat by accepting he's the underdog..­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 07/05/2008
- amst I'm a Fan of amst 9 fans permalink

I think this is true. The media is loving this, and many Dems are buying into their bull. Obama HAS consistently said he will end the war. Let's be fair here though. How the hell does Obama (or any future President) know what kind of freekin' mess he'll walk into when elected? Hu? I'm sure you can imagine. I think there will be many many blunders left by Bush that Obama will have to deal with. And yes, some will involve the war. is that such a shock?

So, if Obama has to see what end is up (so to speak) and get a chance to actually view the situation as a President, what if it's gonna take another year, but he keeps his promise to slowly withdraw? Is that so terrible? I'm happy with knowing there WILL be a withdrawal and I do believe there will be.

Oh, and another thing, before some of the HRC lapdogs and Neos say something. Obama has also consistently said that we attacked the wrong country and more than once has indicated that we need to get Bin Laden. I hope people are not surprised when he tries to make good on his word.

Obama 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 07/05/2008
- joeyp404 I'm a Fan of joeyp404 4 fans permalink
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Blaming the media... It's a nice way to deflect criticism, however, if the media declared a heatwave a coldfront, we'd collectively say they were wrong. Because Barack says so, doesn't make it true. Sure, there are shades of grey in what he has said, but he gave himself just enough room to change his stance and just enough rope to hang himself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 07/05/2008

You my friend are seeing the partnership of Karl Rove and the TM in full blossom, so to speak. Plain and simple.

If you can't see that, then you haven't been paying attention.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 07/05/2008
- Zentomato I'm a Fan of Zentomato 9 fans permalink

I just do not trust the AP anymore, especially Ms Loven. Anything she writes I take with a grain of salt as I know that she is a biased journalist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 07/05/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

If you want a taste of what Obama is up against, go watch the AP meeting where both candidates were in attendance. Two months ago.

It's amazing. The AP "reporters" came bearing tasty treats for McCain.

Really. It's a little sickening.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 07/05/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

SENATOR OBAMA: I think it's hard to project four years from now, and I think it would be irresponsible. We don't know what contingency will be out there.
What I can promise is that if there are still troops in Iraq when I take office, which it appears there may be unless we can get some of our Republican colleagues to change their mind and cut off funding without a timetable, if there's no timetable, then I will drastically reduce our presence there to the mission of protecting our embassy, protecting our civilians and making sure that we're carrying out counterterrorism activities there.
I believe that we should have all our troops out by 2013, but I don't want to make promises not knowing what the situation's going to be three or four years out.

Just so you know, both Edwards and Clinton answered the same way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 07/05/2008
- AMERIKA I'm a Fan of AMERIKA 15 fans permalink

We are all looking for news. The only news is really the question of scale. How much of a thrashing will Obama give McBush in the general in the ELECTORAL COLLEGE. That is the only question I care about. Everything else is just the MSM trying to make a horse race out of an election cycle that will not come close to being one at all. check out http://www.electoral-vote.com/ to get a read on this non-race.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 07/05/2008

I'm a little amazed by "pretty innocuous statements".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 07/05/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

Read the transcript of the New Hampshire debates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 07/05/2008
- Sarahjan I'm a Fan of Sarahjan 6 fans permalink

This was a self inflected wound. Obama has no one to blame but himself on this one. He knows that the media that twisted his refusal to sign the hand of of a litte boy who asked him to sign his name on hand with permanent ink marker into false claim that Obama had refused a little boy a fist pound wil twist any ambiguity introduced to his Iraqi position by his own words into a major policy shift. Obama is not only such a smart guy but he used to be an editor of Harvard Law Review and he knows something about avoiding ambiguity in language. Perhaps he was tired but after his flip flop in the FISA bill and other shifts, his little slip of the tongue on his Iraqi position will linger little longer. Obama needs to be careful next time and think carefully before he opens his mouth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 07/05/2008
- athy I'm a Fan of athy 8 fans permalink

No Sen Obama...Wi­th all due respect. The media has not overblown anything. You have been flip flopping back and forth on your positions throughout the campaign. Many voters trusted you to 'say what you mean and mean what you say and do what you said you would do...You let them down. However some of these voters plan on still voting for you out of party loyalty with caveat to you that they will scrutinize your actions and decisions and hold you accountable. Do you have problem with that sir?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISYNRkoOxRc
I have many issues with how msm handled this campaign BEFORE you assumed your role as presumptive democratic nominee...­Now...all bets are off...Leav­e the media alone...Fo­ol me once...sha­me on you. Fool me twice...sh­ame on me. First it was 'Clinton supporters and race baiting' now you are going after the media...NO­W...???Why NOW???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 07/05/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

Liberals fell for it like the dupes they are.

The Right set it up three days in advance, the media followed up, and liberals fell for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 07/05/2008

Of course many did but this is to important to allowed the likes of The Scarborough’s and the Andrea Mitchell’s to dictate what is factual. They have secrete agenda and we must call them on it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 07/05/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

Liberals could start by reviewing the New Hampshire debate before launching into hysterics.

Obama didn't move AT ALL on Iraq.

Clue me in: is there some secret reason liberals are determined to help the media destroy the Democratic candidate?

What's the game plan here?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 07/05/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

I'd settle for liberals not swallowing whatever the Right is peddling.

I simply can't believe the stupidity of that. It's criminally stupid.

After Kerry? No excuses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 07/05/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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Andrea Mitchell (aka Mrs. Allan Greenspan) needs to be kept far away from the MTP desk

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 07/05/2008
- Bootoomee I'm a Fan of Bootoomee 6 fans permalink

Anyone noticed how Scarborough has been lording it over everybody on RFTWH since David Gregory was away? The guy is an absolute @ss and a pompous idiot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 07/05/2008

You noticed that too. Got sucka punched

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 07/05/2008
- ghop I'm a Fan of ghop 4 fans permalink

No kidding! I've been amazed, and saddened, by the ability of so many liberals to swallow whole the GOP talking points on this matter. It has also brought to light the fact that many of the former fervent 0bama supporters had not done basic research on their candidate's views.

I thought we were supposed to be the well informed ones who weren't duped by the MSM talking points. Oh well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 07/05/2008
- exPatPatti I'm a Fan of exPatPatti 32 fans permalink
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Yup. Someone said on another post that the GOP throws out a scrap into a group of dems then sits back and watches them tear each other apart over it. Even Huffpo has become markedly anti 0bama of late as people are knee jerking and eating up the offal being fed to them by the lousy MSM. The media lynching of B0 is in full swing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 07/05/2008
- Fabienne I'm a Fan of Fabienne 31 fans permalink

Most of the anti-Obama posters in the blogosphere are NOT liberals. They are Clinton or McCain supporters. I have been seeing many of my very liberal friends in the past few days, all of whom now wholeheartedly support Obama, and not ONE of them has expressed any reservation whatsoever in his candidacy. All this hysteria seems to be confined to the media and the blogosphere. His supporters pay no attention to the mainstream media, and most of the ranters in the blogosphere were never his supporters to begin with even they claim that they were.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 PM on 07/05/2008
- Plowboy I'm a Fan of Plowboy 25 fans permalink

Merdia? Of course the merdia spins,
Distorts,
Embellishes with garbage,
LIES.
Why do you think they're called thje merdia?

If they get their way, this will become Amerdica.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 07/05/2008
- presto I'm a Fan of presto 18 fans permalink

So who calls them that? And what does it mean?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 07/05/2008

merde = sh*t in french

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 07/05/2008
- KBAR I'm a Fan of KBAR 28 fans permalink
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In March 2008, Obama Said He Would "Immediately Begin To Remove Our Troops From Iraq And Have Them Out In 16 Months." Obama: "In order to end this war responsibly, I will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. We can responsibly remove one to two combat brigades each month. If we start with the number of brigades we have in Iraq today, we can remove all of them 16 months." (Sen. Bar ack Obama, Remarks On Iraq, Fayetteville, NC, 3/19/08)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 07/05/2008
- NeoStar9 I'm a Fan of NeoStar9 15 fans permalink

That's is still what he's saying. He's just being clearer that depending on the situation on the ground you might have to adjust. The goal will still be to get troops out and to start the withdrawal right away. Adjusting to the ground and what the generals say doesn't change that. Just means you might have to slow the withdrawal in one area while another might be done quicker. You might need to reposition some troops to one area so it's better defended so you can get more of the heavy equipment out quicker. Things like that.

The media understood full well what Sen. Obama was talking about but they decided to lie and manufacture a story hoping their viewers were stupid enough to buy it. This is why he held a second press meeting because he saw what the media was trying to do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 07/05/2008
- poropo I'm a Fan of poropo 3 fans permalink

is a shame to msm and mcbush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 07/05/2008
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