Study: Military Gays Don't Undermine Unit Cohesion

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ANNE FLAHERTY | July 7, 2008 11:20 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — Congress should repeal the "don't ask, don't tell" law because the presence of gays in the military is unlikely to undermine the ability to fight and win, according to a new study released by a California-based research center.

The study was conducted by four retired military officers, including the three-star Air Force lieutenant general who in early 1993 was tasked with implementing President Clinton's policy that the military stop questioning recruits on their sexual orientation.

"Evidence shows that allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly is unlikely to pose any significant risk to morale, good order, discipline or cohesion," the officers states.

To support its contention, the panel points to the British and Israeli militaries, where it says gay people serve openly without hurting the effectiveness of combat operations.

Undermining unit cohesion was a determining factor when Congress passed the 1993 law, intended to keep the military from asking recruits their sexual orientation. In turn, service members can't say they are gay or bisexual, engage in homosexual activity or marry a member of the same sex.

Supporters of the ban contend there is still no empirical evidence that allowing gays to serve openly won't hurt combat effectiveness.

"The issue is trust and confidence" among members of a unit, said Lt. Col. Robert Maginnis, who retired in 1993 after working on the issue for the Army. When some people with a different sexual orientation are "in a close combat environment, it results in a lack of trust," he said.

The study was sponsored by the Michael D. Palm Center at the University of California at Santa Barbara, which said it picked the panel members to portray a bipartisan representation of the different service branches. According to its Web site, the Palm Center "is committed to keeping researchers, journalists and the general public informed of the latest developments in the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy debate." Palm himself was "a staunch supporter of civil rights in the gay community," the site says.

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Two of the officers on the panel have endorsed Democratic candidates since leaving the military _ Army Lt. Gen. Robert Gard, who supports Barack Obama, and Marine Corps Gen. Hugh Aitken, who backed Clinton in 1996.

Air Force Lt. Gen. Robert Minter Alexander, a Republican, was assigned in 1993 to a high-level panel established by the Defense Department to examine the issue of gays in the military. At one point, he signed an order that prohibited the military from asking a recruit's sexual orientation.

Alexander said at the time he was simply trying to carry out the president's orders and not take a position. But he now believes the law should be repealed because it assumes the existence of gays in the military is disruptive to units even though cultural attitudes are changing.

Further, the Defense Department and not Congress should be in charge of regulating sexual misconduct within the military, he said.

"Who else can better judge whether it's a threat to good order and discipline?" Alexander asked.

Navy Vice Adm. Jack Shanahan said he had no opinion on the issue when he joined the panel, having never confronted it in his 35-year military career. A self-described Republican who opposes the Bush administration's handling of the Iraq war, Shanahan said he was struck by the loss of personal integrity required by individuals to carry out "don't ask, don't tell."

"Everyone was living a big lie _ the homosexuals were trying to hide their sexual orientation and the commanders were looking the other way because they didn't want to disrupt operations by trying to enforce the law," he said.

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WASHINGTON — Congress should repeal the "don't ask, don't tell" law because the presence of gays in the military is unlikely to undermine the ability to fight and win, according to a new study r...
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As a gay man my primary issue with the military is this: Why can't I be myself? Why do I have to hide my sexual orientation to serve in the military when in 90% of regular public life I don't have to? I've known several gay men who have served admirably in the military and most of their straight unit mates know that they are gay. Most don't care as long as you "got their back" and are willing to put their lives on the line for them. I think the heads of the joint chiefs should realize that most of their men on the ground could care less.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 07/07/2008
- AxelDC I'm a Fan of AxelDC 86 fans permalink
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No, what undermines military cohesion are witch-hunts and treating people as 2nd class citizens.

The only problem with gays is how they are treated. Once gays are treated as equals, they perform just as well and contribute just as much as anyone else. Funny how that works.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 07/07/2008

Get on with it already. The thought that we are losing such valuable expertise for this ridiculous reason is simply flabbergasting. It's too bad we have to wait for other countries to show us the way to treat each other instead of being the moral leaders we claim to be.

History is going to judge Americans harshly on this and other gay rights issues, and rightly so. Human rights, remember? Not some humans' rights.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 07/07/2008

If they're willing to join up and die for their country, I'm not sure what the debate is about. They kept blacks out, then women out, then gays out.. all for this same tired "unit cohesion" argument.

The units get over it, the military gets better and and stronger. And dare I say more united in their common cause.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 PM on 07/07/2008

Another Pres. Clinton blunder "don't ask, don't tell ,"is absurd!
Kind of like wet foot, dry foot!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 07/07/2008

It's not really fair to blame President Clinton; when he was first elected he almost immediately tried to completely remove the ban on gays serving in the military. Unfortunately, there was a huge backlash against the new president and the best he was able to do was 'don't ask, don't tell.' He tried to do better, but when it became obvious he couldn't he settled for the current policy, which, while awful, is still better than a complete ban.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 07/07/2008
- Eric8869 I'm a Fan of Eric8869 25 fans permalink

What is even worse is they have discharged gay service members who were translators. This means people who were decoding messages from people trying to kill us. We are LESS SAFE because military officials are scared of being looked at in the shower!!!!!!!!

The constant crisis in America - homophobia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 07/07/2008
- Dane1911 I'm a Fan of Dane1911 7 fans permalink

Im sorry, but why does someone private life have anything to do with them serving. I am still puzzled with that. What they are not man or woman enough to serve this country if they are lebians and homosexuals.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:58 PM on 07/07/2008
- Bibbo I'm a Fan of Bibbo 12 fans permalink

Thats just it...it no longer in private. Actually if thier sexual orientation was not flaunted I just dont think it would be a problem. There's a lot of dishonesty going on in this discussion about gays serving in the armed forces. Its not even the fact that a known(or strongly suspected) gay person is serving thats a problem for most straights.Its the attitude of the gay libbers who say there's nothing wrong with us ,its you with your religious bigotry that's the problem. If this was all done discretely again there would be no problem. Hey you can think I'm a bigot but when my religious beliefs are openly mocked its a little much to expect us to just be quiet and take it. I dont believe the issue is the ability to openly serve(what does that actually mean?) but rather the gays are looking for us to back down and deny our beliefs. This will never happen. If they make it a condition for "feeling accepted" they are snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and will lose the tollerance for thier lifestyle that now exists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 07/07/2008
- lippp I'm a Fan of lippp 17 fans permalink

So Bibbo, if your beliefs are that blacks and whites should not marry, we should enact laws preventing that from happening because we are offending your beliefs? Or if your belief is that Blacks are black because they are sinners (as the Mormans believed), then we shoud discriminate since not doing so is offensive to you? Howabout examining whether your beliefs are simply bigoted interpretations of some biblical document that is filled with inaccuracies? Simply put, your beliefs could really be wrong, immoral and, well, filled with irrational bigotry. But I suppose as long as you can rationalize it as your belief it is ok to discriminate. Like religion typically does to women. How pathetic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 07/07/2008

"the gays are looking for us to back down and deny our beliefs."

The gays are looking for you to back down from USING your "beliefs" to deny them EQUAL rights under OUR Constitution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 07/07/2008
- oafishcad I'm a Fan of oafishcad 45 fans permalink

Ever think your nonacceptance of gays offends MY religious beliefs?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 07/07/2008
- oafishcad I'm a Fan of oafishcad 45 fans permalink

Next you'll be saying you have no problem with persons of color as long as they can pass for white.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 07/07/2008

I guess I better not eat any shellfish in front of you or I'd be mocking your religious beleifs as well, right Bubba? That means Red Lobster is off limits, huh? And I bet somebody wearing mixed fabrics in front of you would also be mocking your religion too?

Or do you just pick and choose what parts of the bible are Gods laws and should be followed, while the rest are just silly little things that your sweetly retarded God (picture Forrest Gump) got wrong and should be ignored?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 07/07/2008
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i have a feeling that "unit cohesion" wouldn't be a top priority if you were rescued by a glbt service member.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 07/07/2008
- strandwolf I'm a Fan of strandwolf 6 fans permalink

Sad to really want what you can't have. I imagine they're really depressed down in Costa Rica, where there is no military at all. What's a stud to do?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 PM on 07/07/2008
- Majus I'm a Fan of Majus 7 fans permalink

A stud in Costa Rica does exactly what they do now; make money with their talents to support their families.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 07/07/2008
- soithoni I'm a Fan of soithoni 7 fans permalink

It must be quite a burden to be so perfect all the time. How on earth do you go to the bathroom, in Ziploc bags? Keep all the dirty stuff away for the Perfect One!
And what the Perfect One doesn't approve of, doesn't deserve to exist.
Typical neocon fascist with absolutely no humanity at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 07/07/2008
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