Obama: I Haven't Moved To The Center

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LIZ SIDOTI | July 8, 2008 03:52 PM EST | AP

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Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill, points to supporters during a town hall-style meeting in Powder Springs, Ga., Tuesday, July 8, 2008. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)

POWDER SPRINGS, Ga. — Asked by a voter about accusations of flip-flopping, Democrat Barack Obama dismissed the notion Tuesday that he has shifted stances on Iraq, guns and the death penalty to break with his party's liberal wing and court a wider swath of voters.

"The people who say this haven't apparently been listening to me," the likely Democratic presidential nominee said in response to a question at a town-hall style event.

Obama blamed criticism from "my friends on the left" and "some of the media" in part on cynicism that ascribes political motives for every move candidates make. "You're not going to agree with me on 100 percent of what I think, but don't assume that if I don't agree with you on something that it must be because I'm doing that politically," he said. "I may just disagree with you."

The Illinois senator was responding to a question from a self-described "reformed Republican" who said he worked for Democrat Bobby Kennedy four decades ago and thanked Obama for restoring "that faith."

"You had an interesting week of being accused of flip-flopping, which is mostly nonsense," the man said. He then asked Obama to restate his Iraq position, and Obama used the opportunity to dispel the idea he had generally changed his stances.

Since wrapping up the Democratic nomination last month, Obama has voiced positions that break with the Democratic Party's left and seem to shade his own past positions on a range of subjects. He's drawn criticism from some liberal Democrats who question his loyalty and from Republicans who accuse him of flip-flopping.

His remarks aside, Obama is clearly competing for the center of the electorate. Originally best known as an anti-Iraq war candidate, his general election commercials appear nonpartisan and make an obvious play for voters across the political spectrum by focusing on family values and patriotism as well as "welfare to work" and lower taxes.

Over the past few weeks, he angered liberals by supporting compromise electronic surveillance rules for the government's wiretapping program even though the bill provided immunity that he opposed last year for telecommunications companies that conducted warrantless eavesdropping. When the Supreme Court overturned the District of Columbia's gun ban, he said he favors both an individual's right to bear firearms and a government's right to regulate them.

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And, he broke with death penalty opponents when he disagreed with the Supreme Court's decision outlawing executions of people who rape children.

On Iraq, he has gone from a boisterous end-the-war call that endeared him to the left flank to more nuanced rhetoric. He has long called for a troop drawdown process that could last 16 months. Last week, he said his upcoming Iraq trip might lead him to refine, but not basically alter, his determination to pull U.S. troops out of combat in Iraq and that the safety of U.S. troops and the stability of Iraq might force him to adjust his timetable. It's a potentially flexible formulation that has troubled liberals even though he's said throughout his candidacy that the nation needs to be careful leaving Iraq.

"I am somebody who is no doubt progressive. I believe in a tax code that we need to make more fair. I believe in universal health care. I believe in making college affordable. I believe in paying our teachers more money. I believe in early childhood education," Obama told his audience here. "I believe in a whole lot of things that make me progressive and squarely in the Democratic camp."

But, he said: "I'm not just somebody who is talking about government as the solution to everything. I also believe in personal responsibility. I also believe in faith."

So, he said when he talks about the idea of recruiting churches and other religious groups to provide community services through faith-based initiatives, as he did last week, "that's not something new. I've been talking about that for years now. I've been organizing with churches for years in the community. So the notion that somehow that's me trying to look more centered, more centrist, is just not true."

He also raised the Supreme Court ruling that upheld the rights of individuals to bear arms and said: "I actually have said that I agree with that for years, even before the ruling came down." He said that doesn't contradict his view that "we've got decent controls over the use of illegal firearms in our community."

And, addressing the questioner's Iraq query, Obama drew cheers when he said: "I opposed this war from the start" and "I have also consistently said that once we were in, we had to be as careful getting out as we were careless getting in."

McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds argued Obama "put politics ahead of principle" on numerous issues and "has proven his rhetoric to be nothing but empty words and broken pledges that are at odds with his left wing partisan record. Barack Obama is wrong: everyone's been listening and still nobody knows what Barack Obama truly believes."

POWDER SPRINGS, Ga. — Asked by a voter about accusations of flip-flopping, Democrat Barack Obama dismissed the notion Tuesday that he has shifted stances on Iraq, guns and the death penalty to b...
POWDER SPRINGS, Ga. — Asked by a voter about accusations of flip-flopping, Democrat Barack Obama dismissed the notion Tuesday that he has shifted stances on Iraq, guns and the death penalty to b...
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- JR49 I'm a Fan of JR49 4 fans permalink

If you listen carefully what Barack Obama says about war in Iraq you have to agree his rhetoric is the same all the time. He wants us out but with precaution and safely...w­hat is wrong with it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 07/08/2008
- simplify I'm a Fan of simplify 30 fans permalink
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Dont believe the media hype....an­d like Obama says no one is going to agree with him 100% of the time.Its just not possible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 07/08/2008

I don't think he can be more clear than that! Feel free to spin away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 07/08/2008

The author (liz doti) is already spinning in saying "he has gone from hard-line opposition to the war to more nuanced rhetoric that calls for a troop drawdown process that could last 16 months". What he has consistently said is that we need to get out but be as careful getting out as we were careless getting in. There is no inconsistency here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 07/08/2008
- MetryJen I'm a Fan of MetryJen 3 fans permalink

How about the bit in the middle where she actually says "his remarks aside." Gee, spin much? Thanks, AP

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 07/08/2008
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exactly- the media just can't help themselves when it comes to being addicted to their pet narratives­...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 07/08/2008

Big deal. The Democrats got re-elected on a 'Stop the War' platform. The real Trolls, like Feinstein, Pelosi, Lieberman, Schumer are still getting a free ride on that little promise that never came true. Obama may feel "progressive", but his pride in being a part of the Democratic 'mainstream' is misplaced when you consider the party's failure on almost every level to counter the GOP assaults on the very foundations of this nation. He's being accused of being the big Corporate Candidate now! Wasn't that Hillary's handle?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 07/08/2008
- Relax08 I'm a Fan of Relax08 3 fans permalink

Just watch while the fair weather supporters start coming out and screaming bloody murder about this or that. It's very tiresome to see the Democratic party continually eating it's own whenever it has a chance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 07/08/2008

Republicans fall in line, while democrats create drama -- which always results in a tragic ending.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 07/08/2008
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