The Struggle To Define Barack Obama

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First Posted: 07- 8-08 12:11 AM   |   Updated: 07-15-08 05:12 AM

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The struggle to define Barack Obama over the next seventeen weeks will pit the two presidential campaigns against each other, along with independent 527 groups determined to put their own stamp on the contest. Just as importantly, the battle will take place in the context of the contemporary politics of race.

On the Democratic side, the drive will be to portray Obama as a success story, an exemplar of deeply-rooted American egalitarian traditions, significantly advancing the national commitment to freedom and justice.

On the Republican side, the effort will be, rather, to link Obama to the powerful negative stereotypes of black Americans that were once widely prevalent, triggering bias -- proponents of such ads hope -- and stirring up the kind of race prejudice which underpinned that other American tradition -- slavery and Jim Crow.

Republican operatives, including Floyd Brown who engineered the infamous Willie Horton ad of 1988 are already gearing up. David Mark and Kenneth P. Vogel of Politico write:

Opposition researchers . . . hope they have found a weapon to wound Obama in his own voice as recorded for the Grammy-Award winning audio version of his 1995 memoir, Dreams from my Father. . . . In a passage describing his high school experience in Hawaii, for example, Obama explains the allure of drugs. "I kept playing basketball, attended classes sparingly, drank beer heavily, and tried drugs enthusiastically."

Floyd Brown told Mark and Vogel "My copy of [Dreams] is dog-eared and covered with yellow marker. . . . I expect to use his words a lot in the ads that I do. . . . and I would highly encourage other independent efforts - or the [McCain] campaign itself - to do the same thing."

Two of Obama's own first post-primary ads are designed to counter attempts to frame him with discredited negative stereotypes of black Americans.

In a commercial titled "Dignity" the announcer declares that Obama "passed a law to move people from welfare to work, slashed the rolls by eighty percent....And never forget the dignity that comes from work."

Similarly, in "The Country I Love", Obama tells voters:

America is a country of strong families and strong values. My life's been blessed by both. I was raised by a single mom and my grandparents. We didn't have much money, but they taught me values straight from the Kansas heartland where they grew up. Accountability and self-reliance. Love of country. Working hard without making excuses. ....That's why I passed laws moving people from welfare to work, cut taxes for working families and extended health care for wounded troops who'd been neglected. I approved this message because I'll never forget those values, and if I have the honor of taking the oath of office as president, it will be with a deep and abiding faith in the country I love.
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The side that successfully defines Obama is the side likely to win on November 4.

The racially-tinged 'framing' battle over Obama began in earnest during his primary fight against Hillary Clinton. Bill Clinton's pointed comparison of Obama to Jesse Jackson after the South Carolina primary was designed to link Obama to an earlier black candidate for the presidency who had a much more limited appeal to white voters. Hillary Clinton sought to raise similar concerns when she told USA Today, "Senator Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and...whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."

Nothing, however, more gravely threatened Obama's image as a "post-racial" candidate than the disclosure of the content of sermons by Jeremiah Wright, Obama's religious mentor and pastor for 20 years, the man who married Obama and who baptized his children. In one sermon, Wright declared: "No, no, no, not God Bless America. God damn America." In another sermon, Wright told the congregation, "We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye... and now we are indignant, because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought back into our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost."

In an effort to gain some insight into the historical antecedents of this debate, the Huffington Post asked a number of political and academic experts who have studied racial politics for their assessments. Most were asked a version of the following question:

How would you explain how this country has gone from a segregated South at the start of the 1960s to the Democratic nomination of an African-American candidate for president, less than 50 years later?

The replies ran the gamut from optimistic to the pessimistic.

Robert D. Putnam, the Peter and Isabel Malkin Professor of Public Policy at Harvard and author of Bowling Alone wrote:

My main thought is that LBJ was exactly right when he said, upon signing the 1964 Civil Rights Bill, that the Democrats were writing off the South (and thus national power) for a generation. It's been just about that long, and it may be a bit longer yet before the South fully rejoins the rest of the country, but we are now seeing the long-term effects of the Civil Rights revolution on younger generations, in the sense that for my kids and especially my grandchildren race is much less a big deal in public affairs. I don't mean that racism is dead, of course, especially in private life, but it has been delegitimated almost entirely in public now, especially for the youngest cohort of voters. I think that the Clintons paid a significant political price for even appearing to play the race card this spring, and I think the same would be true now for McCain, at least among people under 50. Social scientists have charted the generational trend toward greater racial tolerance for decades now, and the only question was whether young generations really meant it. Their votes this spring proved that they did. That generational sea-change is, of course, the primary reason for the sharp age gradient in support for Obama this spring. The thing about generational replacement is that it comes very slowly, over a matter of 50 years (as new voters enter the electorate and old voters leave), but once underway, it is inexorable.


To be sure, issues like Reverend Wright can set back the cause (ironically, because his black nationalism was so gratingly out-of-tune), and I'm not saying that Obama's election is a sure thing. But the direction of history seems to me pretty clear, and I think LBJ had it about right.


Notre Dame political scientist Darren Davis, who is African American, has a far bleaker view:

Sure, there has been some racial progress and the black middle class has expanded. But, American society is still largely segregated and blacks continue to be at the low end of every conceivable socioeconomic measure. And, one can infer only so much racial progress from the nomination of Barack Obama. Once Obama was racialized -- toward the end of the primaries -- racial issues seem to stick to him more than at the beginning when people were not viewing him through a racial lens. When Obama was effectively framed as black, whites' support declined and black support increased.


People want to assume that Willie Horton is a thing of the past, but the Willie Horton commercial would work today! Please don't misunderstand. There has been racial progress, but the success of the Obama campaign is not the best measure of racial progress. My basis for saying this is that I do not think a random black person would have the same success. Obama's success is due in part to his position on the issues, his eloquence, his ability to communicate, and let's not forget, the state of our country.

A better measure of racial progress is when the country can elect a black person who can speak directly on racial issues, embrace traditional civil rights leaders and associations, and who can maintain associations with people who may have different perceptions of country.

Pollster John Zogby, in turn, sees a different world from Davis:

The America of 2008 is far removed from that of 1988-- let alone the 1950s. In short form, we have had two structural recessions in 1982 and 1991 that moved us away from the manufacturing economy toward services and information. And many of the blue collars of the past have sent their children to community colleges, public and private universities. No one dreams of their kids joining the working class. What has thus happened is an explosion of what some call "the creative class" -- 30 million strong and growing, with a far more cosmopolitan worldview and not competing for a diminishing piece of a diminishing pie of jobs. Add to this what my research is finding about America's First Global generation -- 18-29 year olds with passports who are more likely to call themselves 'citizens of the planet Earth' before they see themselves as US citizens. They have grown up in a diverse world, are much more likely to appreciate multi-ethnicity, multilateralism, and do not even see Obama as an African American candidate.

UCLA political scientist Lynn Vavreck:

While it is tempting to consider Obama's likely nomination as a sign of progress in terms of the conditions in which African Americans are integrated into American society, I think it is also important to realize that this is one man's success -- and he happens to be multi-racial with a black identity. There are a lot of communities in America, a lot of segments of society, that are still struggling. It is critical to look to Obama as a role model for minority populations, not as a sign that these groups have been fully integrated....


So, yes, 40 years after the voting rights act we have our first black nominee of a major party.... Obama's nomination is not the culmination of decades or even centuries of tolerance and changing attitudes -- it is the beginning, a perfect-storm-provided opportunity to 'pass go' and skip forward on the path toward racial equality....Reality has provided us with this moment and this candidate -- and we should use it to continue the movement toward equality of opportunity, of rights, and of protection for all under-represented groups. Let one man's equality be a mirror reflecting the inequalities experienced by others.

Notre Dame Political Scientist David Leege writes

My guess is that behind the figures indicating a close contest for the presidency are about 17-19% of white Democrats and independent leaners who will find other reasons for their vote, but at heart it is anti-African American. My guess is that about 11-13% of white Republicans and independent leaners--racial moderates--who could embrace Obama would do so because they are embarrassed by their own party's campaign strategy and their beloved nation's paradoxical racial history. McCain may be too honorable to overtly support the racially-tinged politics of Reagan and the two Bushes. His challenge will be to rein in a staff of political pros who learned their not-so-secrets of political success over the last 30-40 years. McCain has to keep them on persona and patriotism, along with general words about economic renewal and environment. I anticipate a goodly share of apologies.


Finally, as a scholar of religion and politics, I am watching the formation of rival coalitions based on what I call the theology of fear and the theology of hope. The former has been with us for several decades in the forces of order, exclusion, and war. The latter has been loosely fragmented among progressive white Catholics, mainline Protestants, and younger, educated evangelicals. If the latter coalition crystallizes and joins African Americans, Jews, most Hispanics, and seculars in 2008 and thereafter, the electoral map will indeed change. Many of these are the same kinds of people--socially, psychologically, and spiritually--who were behind the bipartisan coalition that empowered the civil rights acts of the early '60s.

Republican pollster Whit Ayres argues:

Barack Obama's rise is but the latest example that American is the most amazing country on earth. It is virtually inconceivable that a European nation, an Asian nation, or a South American nation could move legally and culturally from enforced segregation to an African-American candidate for President in 50 years. It is particularly striking to realize that Obama's parents' bi-racial union was illegal not that long ago. It reinforces a fundamental tenet of America's civic religion, that this truly is a land of opportunity.

Al From, founder and chief executive officer of the Democratic Leadership Council contends:

This country is a great country that has made tremendous economic and social progress in the last half century. We still have a ways to go, but we are ever coming closer to reaching a dream that seemed so far when I worked for the War on Poverty in the Deep South four decades ago. The animating principle of America is equal opportunity and the idea that with hard work anyone here can get as far as his or her talents would allow. It would not happen in any other country.

Survey data over the past 50 years show a steady liberalization of American views, but opinion specialists argue that racial attitudes remain a difficult subject to accurately gauge though polls.

A June Washington Post/ABC poll - "Obama's Candidacy Underscores Crosscurrents of Race and Politics" - noted public ambivalence.

The survey citied the

deep crosscurrents in racial attitudes. On the positive side, a record number of whites and blacks alike say they have a friend of the other race - 92 percent of blacks and 79 percent of whites, both new highs in polls dating back a generation. The growth of interracial friendships has been dramatic; in 1981 just 54 percent of whites, and 69 percent of blacks, reported a friend of the other race. At the same time, three in 10 Americans admit to harboring at least some feelings of racial prejudice of their own - 30 percent of whites, and about as many blacks, 34 percent.
In addition, pollsters have frequently cited the "Bradley effect," referring to the reluctance of a small percentage of whites to admit that they intend to vote against a black candidate - a phenomenon first noticed in the 1982 campaign of Los Angeles Mayor Tom Bradley for governor of California.

Ten years ago, the Pew Center found another serious weakness in surveys examining racial attitudes: "People who are reluctant to participate in telephone surveys seem to be somewhat less sympathetic to blacks and other minorities than those willing to respond to poll questions." There has been poll data suggesting the public is more liberal on matters of race than it actually is.

Conversely, a February, 2007, Pew Research study concluded "that racism may be less of a factor in public judgments about African American candidates than it was 10 or 20 years ago." The authors, Scott Keeter and Nilanthi Samaranayake, found that while

No one would deny that race still matters in U.S. politics. For the past half century, the political parties have been increasingly divided in their positions on racial issues, and that, in turn, has affected voters' decisions to call themselves Republicans or Democrats. But this review of exit polls and electoral outcomes in several recent elections suggests that fewer people are making judgments about candidates based solely, or even mostly, on race itself, and that relatively few people are now unwilling to tell pollsters how they honestly feel about particular candidates. In such an environment, the high standing of Barack Obama in presidential polling -- or, for that matter, of Colin Powell prior to the 1996 presidential election -- represents a significant change in American politics.

More recently, a June, 2008, Pew study found that:

A solid majority of Americans say it as at least somewhat important to the country that an African American has won the presidential nomination of a major political party. But there are wide political and racial divisions over the significance of Barack Obama's history-making achievement.
The struggle to define Barack Obama over the next seventeen weeks will pit the two presidential campaigns against each other, along with independent 527 groups determined to put their own stamp on the...
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- sherbug I'm a Fan of sherbug 51 fans permalink

"My guess is that behind the figures indicating a close contest for the presidency are about 17-19% of white Democrats and independent leaners who will find other reasons for their vote, but at heart it is anti-African American"


This group, have been flooding the blogs with their righteous indignation about FISA. What a deal breaker. How disappointing. How could Obama. This is the perfect excuse not to vote for him without have to say they are racists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 07/08/2008
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Obama supporters­.... you just keep playing the race card.

See how that works out for you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 07/08/2008
- StillIRise I'm a Fan of StillIRise 563 fans permalink
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This is NOT playing the race card. It's merely stating the reality that many white Americans will not vote for Senator Obama because he is black, but they will jusitfy their opposition to Obama with other reasons, which will be no more than an attempt to disguise from themselves and others their real motive. Playing the race card generally implies an intent to use or exploit race for the purpose of gaining an advantage; but simply facing the reality of race in America and making mention of that reality is NOT playing the race card.

Some people believe that just talking about race, or about the implications of our racial divide in America, is "playing the race card." However, if we are to ever truly engage in an honest dialogue about race, this kind of conversation cannot be avoided. In my opinion, those who feel that just talking about race is playing the race card, are also the ones who are most threatened by the potential for the kind of dialogue we need to have, a dialogue that they, more than many others, need to participate in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 07/08/2008
- Mygirl I'm a Fan of Mygirl 6 fans permalink
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Why not try to define McCain. Do we really know him and his family ? Do we know what his political agenda is ? Is it an obsession?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 07/08/2008
- zann I'm a Fan of zann 11 fans permalink

You're wondering what attitude towards Obama will crystallize in the media? The McCain crystal, that he's straight talking and against wasteful spending seems unbreakable, despite evidence.

Left commenters are trying to crystallize an attitude that Obama is just a typical politician who has turned right, and the media is going along. Don't crystallize! Save yourselves! Save the country! Read his actual positions, and his historical positions and you'll realize its not true.

My crystal says that McCain is a global capitalist who will say whatever needs to be said to dispirit the country so global capital can finish us off, and that Obama is sharp, cool-headed and skillful, and will listen to those of us who disagree with him on issures.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 07/08/2008
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I think the reason it is so hard for people to define Obama is becuase they are trying to put a three deminsional candidate in a two deminsional hole. From the very begingin Obama has always said that this is One American irregardels of your race, sex, sexual prfrence, religion, weather your conservative or libreal, etc. We all have to come together and do what's best for the country. And to this day that is something he continues to say. But like I said, people still want to put him in this two deminsional hole...it'­s not working so they are having the hardest tim trying to "define" him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 07/08/2008

I am really disappointed in Obama. Obama PROMISED us how he would move beyond politics as usual. Now he is, well, engaging in politics as usual. This is very sad!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 07/08/2008

What are you disappointed in, I have read the article twice and can't find what he did wrong. The articles is about race relations and how the GOP will work to define him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 07/08/2008
- sharonh I'm a Fan of sharonh 205 fans permalink
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They don't like summer shoes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 07/08/2008

Obama needs to step up and redefine himself, before the GOP does. This current tactic of painting him as a flip flopper is gaining traction in the media. Obama has the strongest offense of any candidate I have seen in a long time, with his appeal, organization, volunteers and financing. But where he struggles is defense. When ever there is an attack from the right his campaigns response has been sluggish at best. I think it stems from a desire to breed a new attitude to politics, where attacks aren't a trigger for mutually assured destruction. But his campaign needs to step up and start showing who their candidate is, if they can do that the election is going to be hard for McCain to win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 07/08/2008

The GOP has bought all the airwaves - CNN, MSNBC, FAUX so this is why we have to become bettter citizens and not have talking heads give us our reasonings to vote.

Nothing on McCain - his tetering on illegal campaign finance, his flopping and flipping, riding in his wife's plane, voting for the very issues he is now for. It is up to us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 07/08/2008

but he is a flip flopper.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 07/08/2008
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How about he's a political opportunist with no firm ideological compass or particular vision or thought out design that he's sharing, but will drift toward the position that he thinks will best position the success of his next move?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 07/08/2008
- JMBrodie I'm a Fan of JMBrodie 263 fans permalink
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and...?

He is a politician. What did you think he was?

Question for you is will you be around after the election (whoever wins) to hold that person's feet to the fire?

Chill and relax, and remember, it ain't just about the president. It is also about the folks the president hires; and it's about us being more involved in our government. That, to me, has been the positive in this year's election -- that more of us are involved.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 07/08/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1568 fans permalink
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How about that he's not? How about that you are just a little worthless trollie reciting what Hannity and Limbaugh pumped into your empty skull?

How about that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 07/08/2008

No, the vision is there. In fact the vision of the two candidates is about the same, that is solving the problems the nation is facing. The question is how are they going to get there. There is NO firm ideology about solving these problems, I think this is where O got the solution right. "Government is not going to solve our problems".

Economy..

Let me enlighten you a little: In the 60's we were saving more, consuming less before the credit boom of the 90's that have led to the collapse today. We the people have been spending more and saving less this has nothing to do with government. In the quest of living the good life for "everyone", we have imported more products and have attracted a lot of nations that loved our currencies and ran up deficit. At that point we had lost a lot of focus on "innovation" that has led us this far and have become more reliable on others, that wouldn't help exports. Innovation that could have been carried through the 80's that would have built alternative energy resources and be carried to this century. But instead kept being complacent, this is why we need a president that can "excite and inspire" not pander to our needs of continuous consumption.

Now we in the process of deleveraging so our spending psyche has to be brutally adjusted back to the 60's. I doubt you might see any other boom even if a president promises it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 07/08/2008

Exactly right on the economy. While it is true that the war has not helped us, but couple all the above with the current downturn in the market. We have a financial program as part of our benefits to employees and community. Most people are up to their eyeballs in debt and living way beyond their means. W is no saint but it is hard to blame that on him or even believe that either candidate is going to change the picture in four or even/maybe eight years. In so cal folks were renting loans from loan sharks to show that they had money in savings to get loans that were insane, some were 110% loan to value.

On the oil same thing. Sitting here and doing nothing isn't going to help. And either candidate will have to think long term short term.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 07/08/2008

And despite what I might think of O. McLame isn't even in the ball park.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 07/08/2008
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the problem will be trying to break people form thier 80 and 90's sence of entitlement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 07/08/2008

That'll do. Pretty much sums it up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 07/08/2008
- MoeSart I'm a Fan of MoeSart 10 fans permalink

Second place on November 4. That's his next move.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 07/08/2008

When someone is this complex, people/groups can make/accept their own definition to suite their feelings. This is why hil campaign was successful at trumping a lot of his surge by throwing everything in hoping that some will stick in certain groups. And since ignorance runs so wild in our society, you will never know him if you don't study him with an open mind. The GOP is doing this the right way by defining him in so many negative way, however when your incumbent has an approval of 26% you are seriously handicapped. The way O can neutralize this strategy is to make them into "political attacks as usual", that he wasn't successful in doing to the hil campaign. Reason being that you cannot fight the negatives when the MSM is adopting them as their "talking points(sloppy reporting)" by raising questions to the fears of majority to "boost ratings".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 07/08/2008

When someone is this complex

You are serious? Right? G-d that is scary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 07/08/2008

You are actually looking for a complex minded leader that can assimilate different parts of a problem. That person my friend is hard to define to the common man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 07/08/2008
- BillZBubb I'm a Fan of BillZBubb 54 fans permalink
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Well, you almost had me agreeing with you until the part about Bill Clinton in South Carolina. The continued attempt by Obama supporters to impute a negative racial connotation to Clinton's factual comments is disturbing. Clinton wasn't trying to point out to everyone that (gasp!) Obama is a black man. Gosh, do you think anyone with at least one working eyeball could figure that out without Clinton's help?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 07/08/2008
- Sabreen60 I'm a Fan of Sabreen60 60 fans permalink
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BillZBubb said: "Clinton wasn't trying to point out to everyone that (gasp!) Obama is a black man. Gosh, do you think anyone with at least one working eyeball could figure that out without Clinton's help?"

You have missed the point. When Bil compared 0-bam-a to Jes-se Jack-son, he was saying that 0-bam-a was just another black man whose candida cy was illegitimate. It didn't mean a thing because Rev. J had won SC also and his winning of SC was no big deal. That a black man could win SC but couldn't win the GE. Get it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 07/08/2008

There was no "negative racial connotation" if you mean literally. But this was in a "political context", get the meaning now pal?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 07/08/2008
- MissT I'm a Fan of MissT 4 fans permalink

" Clinton wasn't trying to point out to everyone that (gasp!) Obama is a black man."

You are absolutely right. Clinton wasn't trying to point out the obvious, that Obama is black. What he was doing was devaluing the black vote and therefore the SC primary.

Decoded...­black people voted for Jesse Jackson who was not a viable candidate. Now they are voting for another non viable candidate who afterall is just a fairytale. Therefore this SC primary shuld not be taken seriously because afterall it's just black people voting for the black candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 07/08/2008
- pleeezzze I'm a Fan of pleeezzze 6 fans permalink

God I'm glad you silly people can make up CODES for every word spoken . It gives you so much to talk about !

NOT !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 07/08/2008
- tbone99 I'm a Fan of tbone99 93 fans permalink

Actually Jesse was the third runner up in the Dem primary- more or less the equivalent of Edwards, and would have been way ahead of Biden or Dodd.. You don't know who's"viable" til they win.We may find in a few months that either McCain or Obama were not viable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 07/08/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1568 fans permalink
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I have both my eyeballs working. I gave B!ll Cl!nton a pass initially, but was later convinced by several African American friends that he was indeed race baiting. I always find it useful to try and look at things from the position of those most affected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 07/08/2008
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

The only problem with that is that sometimes, and I'm not necessarily saying in this particular case, the situation can be so personal and we are so sensitive to whatever the situation might be that we see what is not there or an exaggerated view of what is there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 07/08/2008

90 percent of African Americans believed OJ was innocent..­.. a fact....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 07/08/2008
- StillIRise I'm a Fan of StillIRise 563 fans permalink
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The fact that it was obvious that Senator Obama is black made it all the more obvious what President Clinton was trying to do! Rather than to compare Obama's win in S.C. to his own win, or to any other white candidate who won in S.C. in more recent elections, he chose to reach back twenty years to Jesse Jackson, someone who, like Senator Obama, happens to be black.

President Clinton was merely reminding the electorate, particularly the white electorate, that black men win in S.C., and Senator Obama was just one more black candidate who achieved what another black presidential candidate also achieved.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 AM on 07/09/2008

Obama is completely defined by his voting records in both the Illinois and US Senates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 07/08/2008

Let them try to "portray" Obama however they want.

We had the worst congress in U.S. history between 2002 - 2006, and then the Democrats took over and kept all the same policies, only they doubled the costs.

We on the net will make sure people understand the reality ... that Obama is a DLC shill and he does what the DLC tells him to do, and that the DLC has supported virtually all of the worst policies this country has endured over the last 8 years with the only difference being to double the costs of them.

I wish I wasn't saying this, but as it stands right now, I'm pretty sure it's reality. We need people that undo the bad policies and find solutions to them as opposed to continuing the same policies and doubling the costs. Obama is going to do the same stuff as Bush, only he's going to double all the costs in the process.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 07/08/2008
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Obama is not adopting DLC positions, knucklehead.

He is running a general election campaign for the Presidency. He has taken moderate positions lately because that is how you win the election..­.by appealing to moderates.

EVERYTHING else he has written, spoken, voted on, worked on etc., since leaving Harvard Law School suggests that his perspective and politics are indeed different. They are a new kind of progressive. And they spring from an intelligent, agile mind. Your attempt to link him to the DLC is just idiocy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 07/08/2008
- Gizmo1125 I'm a Fan of Gizmo1125 3 fans permalink

BOTTOM LINE THE DNC BLEW IT !!!!!!! INSTEAD OF CHOOSING THE BEST AND MOST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE, THEY CHOSE TO GO WITH A UNKNOWN AND VERY INEXPERIENCE PERSON, WHO CARRIES A LOT OF CONTROVERSY (WRIGHT). OBAMA'S NEW STYLE POLITICS IS QUICKLY BECOMING OLD. HE HAS BECOME SO WISHY WASHY ON THE ISSUES, THAT I DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHERE HE STANDS ANYMORE. AND I AM BEGINNING TO THINK THAT OBAMA IS NOT EXACTLY SURE WHERE HE STANDS. HE IS APPEARING MORE INEXPERIENCE EVERYDAY. AND NOW THERE IS AUDIO TAPE WHERE HE IS BOASTING ABOUT DOING DRUGS. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF DRUGS HE HAS DONE. METH AND COCAINE ARE VERY ADDICTIVE AND THERE IS A HIGH TENDANCY OF RELAPSES WITH THESE TWO DRUGS. DOES ANYONE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT KIND OF DRUGS OBAMA HAS DONE ?????? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 07/08/2008
- theMightyT I'm a Fan of theMightyT 171 fans permalink

*sigh* Operation Chaos i ssooooooooooooooo played...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 07/08/2008
- Sabreen60 I'm a Fan of Sabreen60 60 fans permalink
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Yeah yeah blah blah. If you want someone to read your comments click that little old "caps lock" key. But I read enough to know it ain't worth reading.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 07/08/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1568 fans permalink
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EXACTLY WHAT KIND OF DRUGS OBAMA HAS DONE ?????? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.
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I doubt that it's the same kind you are doing, because I have never seen anything from him in all caps.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 07/08/2008
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Wright in comparison to the Clintons negqtive political baggage is a drop in the bucket. Just last week bill was in Erupoe to answer questins in connection to a money laundering ring. not to mention all of their questionable associations. The Clintons and the Mccains have political issues...h­eck all politicians these days do. as far as your accuzations. if your talking about his book on tape where he talks about his highschool and college days well...whe­re have you been? Thats already known. And judging by the resto of your comments if you don't know abot Obama by now and where he stands then you really aren't trying to. Atleast go to his campaign page if your so confused and compare it to his actual voting record which can be found at www.ontheissues.org if your so paranoid about biased info.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 07/08/2008

It was marijuana.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 PM on 07/08/2008
- sharonh I'm a Fan of sharonh 205 fans permalink
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Marijuana and...mari­juana and... You did not do your homework.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 07/08/2008
- mellene I'm a Fan of mellene 10 fans permalink

I originally came to support Obama via Kucinich, Edwards etc. but have now found him to be showing his true politican colors--say and do anything to win just like McCain and the former Clinton who lost her bid (so far).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 07/08/2008

It is the sad truth that most here would never admit to. They are too busy defending him. Otherwise, they would have to admit he is just another pandering politician when the whole 'change' thing was a sham.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 07/08/2008
- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 230 fans permalink
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Oh, he is a politician???? I had NO IDEA!! And I....VOTED for him?? Oh goodness, how silly of me!! If I'd known.....­I would've voted for the OTHER politicians. You know.. the ones that got us INTO this clusterpluck situation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 07/08/2008
- ohiodem250 I'm a Fan of ohiodem250 26 fans permalink

I'm going to have to be a typical Democrat here but Republican pollster Whit Ayres says: "Barack Obama's rise is but the latest example that America is the most amazing country on earth. It is virtually inconceivable that a European nation, an Asian nation, or a South American nation could move legally and culturally from enforced segregation to an African-American candidate for President in 50 years." Republicans seem to have a penchant for American exceptionalism in the face of truth. While he may be right about Europe, Asia, or South America he conveniently glides right by South Africa, a country that in it's first multi-race election sent Nelson Mandela to the office of President. That's a pretty big one to just paper over. And while we're still talking about whether or not it is going to happen they've already done it - more than ten years ago!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 07/08/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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I have been posting here for 14 months. If my post about a poster's comment of a few months
ago is banned, then so be it. Dessert Light said exactly what I accused them of, what is the
problem here?
Check back a few months. I don't lie!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 07/08/2008

You make an accusation. It's untrue. You can't substantiate it. Then you claim it's true yet again.

I mean what the he-ll is that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 07/08/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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I will repeat your comment was, not exact, that the primaries were on par
with the A- bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and I got oissed off, because
my Japanese husband's mother lost family members in your early morning
attack. I will now call you a liar because you don't remember or chose not to
remember the words that dismayed me that day. You said it, own it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 07/08/2008
- Nochnoi I'm a Fan of Nochnoi 130 fans permalink
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I do believe you are correct in what you said...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 07/08/2008

And tell me what did she say then.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 07/08/2008
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