Clinton: Why I Voted No On FISA

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First Posted: 07- 9-08 05:00 PM   |   Updated: 07-17-08 05:12 AM

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The Senate passed a revamped version of FISA legislation on Wednesday. But that conclusion was never in doubt. The real intrigue surrounded which Democrats would buck the compromise, which included immunity for telecommunications companies, and what side Sen. Hillary Clinton would come down on.

Late this afternoon, Clinton voted against the bill, putting her at odds with the party's presumptive nominee, Barack Obama. In a statement put out by her Internet guru, Peter Daou, the New York Democrat struck a similar chord as her Illinois counterpart, describing the compromise as legislation that will "strengthen oversight of the administration's surveillance activities over previous drafts." She also, like Obama, pinpointed shortcomings in oversight, immunity, and other aspects of the compromise. But, in the end, she, unlike Obama, was persuaded to vote no.

"[A]ny surveillance program must contain safeguards to protect the rights of Americans against abuse, and to preserve clear lines of oversight and accountability over this administration. I applaud the efforts of my colleagues who negotiated this legislation, and I respect my colleagues who reached a different conclusion on today's vote. I do so because this is a difficult issue. Nonetheless, I could not vote for the legislation in its current form."

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"Congress must vigorously check and balance the president even in the face of dangerous enemies and at a time of war. That is what sets us apart. And that is what is vital to ensuring that any tool designed to protect us is used - and used within the law - for that purpose and that purpose alone. I believe my responsibility requires that I vote against this compromise, and I will continue to pursue reforms that will improve our ability to collect intelligence in our efforts to combat terror and to oversee that authority in Congress."

Full Statement Below

One of the great challenges before us as a nation is remaining steadfast in our fight against terrorism while preserving our commitment to the rule of law and individual liberty. As a senator from New York on September 11, I understand the importance of taking any and all necessary steps to protect our nation from those who would do us harm. I believe strongly that we must modernize our surveillance laws in order to provide intelligence professionals the tools needed to fight terrorism and make our country more secure. However, any surveillance program must contain safeguards to protect the rights of Americans against abuse, and to preserve clear lines of oversight and accountability over this administration. I applaud the efforts of my colleagues who negotiated this legislation, and I respect my colleagues who reached a different conclusion on today's vote. I do so because this is a difficult issue. Nonetheless, I could not vote for the legislation in its current form.

The legislation would overhaul the law that governs the administration's surveillance activities. Some of the legislation's provisions place guidelines and restrictions on the operational details of the surveillance activities, others increase judicial and legislative oversight of those activities, and still others relate to immunity for telecommunications companies that participated in the administration's surveillance activities.

While this legislation does strengthen oversight of the administration's surveillance activities over previous drafts, in many respects, the oversight in the bill continues to come up short. For instance, while the bill nominally calls for increased oversight by the FISA Court, its ability to serve as a meaningful check on the President's power is debatable. The clearest example of this is the limited power given to the FISA Court to review the government's targeting and minimization procedures.

But the legislation has other significant shortcomings. The legislation also makes no meaningful change to the immunity provisions. There is little disagreement that the legislation effectively grants retroactive immunity to the telecommunications companies. In my judgment, immunity under these circumstances has the practical effect of shutting down a critical avenue for holding the administration accountable for its conduct. It is precisely why I have supported efforts in the Senate to strip the bill of these provisions, both today and during previous debates on this subject. Unfortunately, these efforts have been unsuccessful.

What is more, even as we considered this legislation, the administration refused to allow the overwhelming majority of Senators to examine the warrantless wiretapping program. This made it exceedingly difficult for those Senators who are not on the Intelligence and Judiciary Committees to assess the need for the operational details of the legislation, and whether greater protections are necessary. The same can be said for an assessment of the telecom immunity provisions. On an issue of such tremendous importance to our citizens - and in particular to New Yorkers - all Senators should have been entitled to receive briefings that would have enabled them to make an informed decision about the merits of this legislation. I cannot support this legislation when we know neither the nature of the surveillance activities authorized nor the role played by telecommunications companies granted immunity.

Congress must vigorously check and balance the president even in the face of dangerous enemies and at a time of war. That is what sets us apart. And that is what is vital to ensuring that any tool designed to protect us is used - and used within the law - for that purpose and that purpose alone. I believe my responsibility requires that I vote against this compromise, and I will continue to pursue reforms that will improve our ability to collect intelligence in our efforts to combat terror and to oversee that authority in Congress.

The Senate passed a revamped version of FISA legislation on Wednesday. But that conclusion was never in doubt. The real intrigue surrounded which Democrats would buck the compromise, which included im...
The Senate passed a revamped version of FISA legislation on Wednesday. But that conclusion was never in doubt. The real intrigue surrounded which Democrats would buck the compromise, which included im...
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- djohn78 I'm a Fan of djohn78 3 fans permalink

It doesnt matter about what "shoulda, coulda, woulda" happened if hillary was the nominee. People didnt give her the benefit of the doubt when she "shoulda, coulda, woulda" voted against Iraq. Give her praise where she deserves. Hillary made the right call yesterday.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 07/10/2008
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uh i think about 18 million gave her the benefit of the doubt for her IRAQ war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 07/10/2008
- pinkyboo I'm a Fan of pinkyboo 22 fans permalink

How is it just "HER IRAQ WAR" ? Grow the Fu*k up!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 07/10/2008
- doglove I'm a Fan of doglove 37 fans permalink
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And when Mr. O had the chance to put Petrayus feet to the fire, what did he ask when it was his turn?

NOTHING

How did he vote on Kyl-Lieberman?

HE DIDN'T BOTHER SHOWING UP TO VOTE

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 PM on 07/14/2008
- Triciann I'm a Fan of Triciann 3 fans permalink

I still think the Clinton's want the White House for themselves above all else and Mrs Clinton is doing what President Clinton always did, listening to the polls. Sometimes that doesn't work. A president has to be stronger than that or else they become simply a manager and that explains Bill Clinton's failures (sorry folks, he did have quite a few BIG ones, Health Care Reform, Climate Change, the Middle East). Barack Obama has always said that as President he will tell people what they need to hear even when it's not what they want to hear. The main bone of contention with the FISA bill concerns what has already happened and Democrats are, as usual doing what the Republicans love, destroying themselves by bickering over the less important issues. Obama has explained his reasoning in voting this way very logically. Mrs. Clinton has proved she wouldn't be appropriate VP material.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 07/10/2008

Say what you will... She voted the right way and you can't spin that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 07/10/2008
- bryansmith I'm a Fan of bryansmith 16 fans permalink
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The issue is not really that contentious. There are still plenty of avenues for stone throwing if need be. The only thing the telecoms got immunity from, was civil suit. But they can still be taken to court, and for that matter, the supreme court could still weigh in on the matter.

If telecoms cross the line, they can still be dragged into court, its just that Joe Blow and his lawyer cannot file suit for civil damages. Justice can still be served, so calm down people. it was a minor compromise that got better oversight put in place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 07/10/2008

Agree. And you can't spin how he voted....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 07/11/2008
- Mekarri I'm a Fan of Mekarri 33 fans permalink
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I was a long time Hillary supporter. But I am so disappointed in her. NEWS FLASH: Hillary, it is over. If it wasn't over you would have voted the same as Obama. I was defending her to my sister just the other day. I was saying that things got heated and Hillary lost her mind for a little while but I was wrong. I now have to agree with others who have said that Hillary feels as if being the President is something she is entitled to. I don't understand why everyone is flipping our about this FISA bill. Hell, we all have sat on our collected ass and allow the corrupt bushco to take bankrupt our country and kill our children but now you are all up in arms about telecom having immunity? Grow the F*ck up people.
Why should anyone go to jail if bushco is allow to go free?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 07/10/2008

Do you even bother to do your homework on candidates??? She co-sponsored Dodds bill and has never waivered on this issue. For you to suggest she would have voted differently just proves you are lying about your so-called past support for her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 07/10/2008
- SamiNJ I'm a Fan of SamiNJ 5 fans permalink

I'd actually like to know the argument she had for voting against the filibuster, THEN voting against the bill itself. I just found that part odd.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 07/10/2008

P.S. It's not about only going to jail, it's about checks and balances for the future, not giving the President free riegn to do what ever without question.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 07/10/2008
- djohn78 I'm a Fan of djohn78 3 fans permalink

what are you talking about? you are obviously not a hillary supporter or else you wouldnt have posted a long rant over hillary's "entitlement" over what happened with the FISA bill

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 07/10/2008

If that's how you feel, you should be using your considerable energy to move for Bush to be impeached. Hey, apparently, Nancy Pelosi has just thought about doing that. Don't rush into anything, Nancy....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 07/11/2008

"They hate us for our freedoms", said the man. So let's take away all the freedoms and then maybe they will no longer hate us. You think?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 07/10/2008
- PAposter I'm a Fan of PAposter 131 fans permalink
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Why is it more important how Clinton voted, than any other Senator?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 AM on 07/10/2008

Give ya three guesses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 AM on 07/10/2008
- BubbaC33 I'm a Fan of BubbaC33 37 fans permalink

Well, during the primary elections Obama supporters made it seem her vote on the IWR was more important than the votes of all others. Maybe that is why.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 AM on 07/10/2008

Of course that was DURING primaries. Now, it's over, she is just like any of all others. In fact, she would have voted as Obama had if she were the nominee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 AM on 07/10/2008
- rwt1138 I'm a Fan of rwt1138 12 fans permalink

Because the choice was between Clinton and Obama in the primaries and a lot of us are grading our vote against how they actually fall out on issues like this.

I chose poorly, and voted Obama. Fortunately I'm in Florida so my mistake didn't really count, but I consider myself better informed now for the general election.

The irony is that I voted Obama in the primaries because on issues like constitutional checks and balances, Clinton equivocated and triangulated and Obama talked tough and firm. However, when it came time to actually vote on the issue, Clinton held firm and Obama folded. Had Clinton been firmer in her public positions on the issue, I would have supported her. Her equivocating on these important issues is what swayed me toward Obama.

Unfortunately, all of his primary campaign rhetoric has been exposed as just the vapid platitudes of a gifted orator, devoid of substance and action.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 07/10/2008

And you are exposed as a fool, falling for the rhetoric... Why, why didn't you think before you voted???? This election is McGovern all over again. And you have to realize it is because of people like you who reached for perfection when all that was on offer was more of the same. The rest of us voted for experience, competence, and preparedness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 07/11/2008

I believe only 26 voted against it. Perhaps Clinton is the most high-profile senator to do so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 PM on 07/10/2008
- nick1936 I'm a Fan of nick1936 17 fans permalink

Obama broke his word by this vote so he is just another Flip flopper Like Kerry McCain and company will make the most of it he showed himself to be a man of no principles.As far as us dem's having no place to go we just may sit this one out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 AM on 07/10/2008

I cannot in good conscience, or proper wisdom, vote for a man who so blatantly turns his back on the very people he is applting to for a job. Obama is George Bush with slightly darker skin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 AM on 07/10/2008

What a Big D.A. yet you are going to vote for Bush reincarnation McCain?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 07/10/2008
- Inaru I'm a Fan of Inaru 117 fans permalink
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Get off his skin, babe. It's obviously irked you from git, so why bother repeating yourself? It's ugly. At least hide it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 07/11/2008

I told many of you from day 1, that Obama is nothing more then a typical politician. He doesn't have any true conviction on any single issue. He will play what ever card he deems will help him win the game. He did it in the primary, playing to the far leftists and relying on the resentment of HRC's Iraq vote and the fear card of BUSH CLINTON BUSH CLINTON. THat's where his whole "change" message came from. The bottom line whether you like HRC or not she does have true convictions and has stood by them throughout her career in the public eye. How many people truly believe NOW, that Obama will stand his ground on Health Care? I know HRC would and IMO she learned some valuable lessons of her past failure. I must admit for a little while I doubted my opinion about Obama, but now most of what I said is coming to fruition. He's ran on this platform of change and not typical Washington Politics and just like so many before him, it's been nothing but a lie. So much for a different type of politician and a true leader. It's a shame that the media treated him with kid gloves for much of primary season.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 AM on 07/10/2008
- SamiNJ I'm a Fan of SamiNJ 5 fans permalink

True convictions? Her "my way or the highway" convictions is one reason we don't have universal healthcare NOW. Ask all the senators and house members who got the cold shoulder if they had any thoughts to share in 92-93. hahah Obama is a typical politician but HRC is a pure as the driven snow heart of gold lookin' out for the little guy "public servant". My God. Thanks for the giggles so early in the day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 07/10/2008

What I've thought all along as well. No koolaid here. Thanks for being so eloquent Bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 07/10/2008

Same here Bill. A simple review of my past posts proves it. I knew Obama was no different when he started that faith tour with Donnie McKlurkin. A rabid homophobe that says God cured him of his homosexuality. Yeah, and I'm Moses.
Then there was Obama's less than grounded preacher. Then there is his favoring of his black half over his white. I knew he was unscroupulous when he condemned a fellow democrat for casting a vote he was never required to cast. That told me right away what a sleazey nature this snake-oil salesman actually has.

The big problem we all face, is that McCain is actually WORSE!!!! This election, is merely an elaborate dog and pony show, to give gullible citizens the ILLUSION, of democracy!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 AM on 07/11/2008

Flipflop is when you turn around 180 degree, such as voted for iraq then against it. Moving from left to center is historically the same thing that every other Presidential candidate did and won the presidency. Obama is no difference but McCain people had to make it a flipflop so that Obama's supporters who don't know the history would think he is the only one doing so. Remember in general election, Obama isn't running only among Democrat but also for all Americans. The reality is we make compromising decision all the times but as long as we stick with our main principles in our life, we have to make changes to make things happened and go forward. The same thing as in the case Democrat never got white voters' supports as strongly as Republican; it is not Obama who doesn't get their support so we have to accept that is a weak point for Democrats, not for Obama only, and have to work hard on it for Democrats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 07/10/2008

So if Obama is just doing what is always done -- what Kerry did, what Gore did, what Bill Clinton did... then where is the new politics????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 07/11/2008
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YOU sit it out. I can't afford gramps in office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 07/10/2008

I will not vote for McCain, but this comment is ageist. Don't you realize you will be "old" some day too? Age should not be a barrier to holding office. If anything, we should be grateful our elders still care about what they leave behind...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 AM on 07/11/2008
- BEHM777 I'm a Fan of BEHM777 13 fans permalink
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Senator Clinton, couldn't you have filibustered this bill or put an anonymous hold on it? It wouldn't have hurt your standing one iota. At least you cast what I believe to be the proper vote, but this thing should have been KILLED. Thanks for at least doing something.

BEHusseinM777

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 AM on 07/10/2008
- lovesds I'm a Fan of lovesds 13 fans permalink

People i guess all of you forgot that clinton voted yes before. democrats will never win an election if they keep whinning like 2 year olds. i understand some of you didn't like obamas vote. fine. but something is better than nothing. i as an independant want the democrats to win. so i will do my part. if the rest of you want to jump ship than don't forget you get what you deserve. i hear these so called democrats talking about voting republicans especially woman. don't complain when things get worst for you instead of getting better for you. when you see mccain as the best woman, remember no equal pay, against my rights, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 AM on 07/10/2008

I've got to agree with you here. I turned my back on Hillary in 2005 when she had vowed to oppose, then, under dubious circumstances, skipped the vote on S. 256(that bankruptcy thing). She voted correctly this time but then again, the party as a whole missed the boat on this one. Nixon would have had it made with such a pandering, spineless congress. The way it's going we can just go ahead and amend article 1 and vest all legislative powers to the executive and barnacle branch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 AM on 07/10/2008
- rwt1138 I'm a Fan of rwt1138 12 fans permalink

Just for curiosity's sake, what is it that is going to get better under Obama? I'm not saying McCain will improve things, he's a guaranteed ticket to national ruin. But if Obama's idea of a compromise is "give the opposition everything it wants and more", if he's going to turn his back on all those pretty words he speaks on the campaign trail when it counts, how is he going to be any better?

I love the use of the term "compromise" for this bill. I think history textbooks need to go back and correct all of their entries on the Compromise of Versailles and the Japanese compromise with the United States in 1945.They also incorrectly describe Wainwright's compromise with the Japanese at Bataan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 07/10/2008
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Now she cares about checks and balances.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 AM on 07/10/2008
- JMorgan I'm a Fan of JMorgan 3 fans permalink

Do you think that if she were the presumptive nominee, she would have voted the same way?

Those who voted for this bill also showed their hands on the "Unitary Executive" view of the Presidency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 AM on 07/10/2008
- Ohsnap I'm a Fan of Ohsnap 45 fans permalink

Why Hillary voted no? Because she is from liberal New York. Plus she is no longer campaigning for President, which would have required her to appeal to the masses and not just the lefties. Why Obama voted yes? Because he decided he suddenly doesn't want to be the Lefty President, or realizes that general elections are not won on the fringes but in the moderate center. Apples and oranges.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 AM on 07/10/2008
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Obama is trying to appeal to the right, not the masses. We are the masses. And as far as Obama voting yes, it was a political vote. It had to be, because before, he was against it. And McCain every day is all too happy to point that out. Obama feels this is not a dealbreaker with the voters, and that although progressives care very much about it, he remarked that most people don't care about it. So he felt he had more to gain by supporting the bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 AM on 07/10/2008

We are not the masses
Get out of your box

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 AM on 07/10/2008
- rwt1138 I'm a Fan of rwt1138 12 fans permalink

It was a dealbreaker for me. Can't speak for anyone else, but if he's keeping a tally somewhere, subtract 1. In a battleground state.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 07/10/2008

"Don't care"? Think again.....

He gets my vote, but he won't get another donation.

It may be naive, but a "Mr Smith" may be exactly what America needs.

Many primary voters rejected Hillary because of her "triangulations".

She voted with Bush on the war. OK, he voted with Bush on telecom
immunity and gutting the fourth amendment.

Alright - so where's the difference between Clinton and Obama now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 07/10/2008

Get over yourself; we are not the masses. And won't just be our president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 07/10/2008

Wait, I thought Obama was the candidate of change? The one that would tell the people what they NEED to hear, not just what they WANT to hear? Didn't he promise us something like that? I voted for change in the primary and found out that all I got was another politician, willing to break his promises for political expediency. Now that Obama has the Dem nomination all locked up, he's abandoning his base. What a waste of hope.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 AM on 07/10/2008
- lejoueur I'm a Fan of lejoueur 2 fans permalink
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For those who claim that HRC voted against the bill because she had nothing at stake, I would like to remind you that the same could be said about BHO's position against the war in Iraq. It is easy to make a speech against the war when you are in Springfield, IL and do not have to vote for it. BHO was not yet in the US Senate. He later ran against very weak opposition for the IL senate seat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 AM on 07/10/2008

Da_mn! Just Da_mn! Put on your pant suit baby and let's start struttin'!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 AM on 07/10/2008
- lejoueur I'm a Fan of lejoueur 2 fans permalink
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Actions speak loader than words

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 AM on 07/10/2008
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excellent point, lejoueur.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 AM on 07/10/2008
- PAposter I'm a Fan of PAposter 131 fans permalink
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So, what's your point? It's this supposed to make Clinton's vote more meaningful, or Obama's Iraq position, less meaningful?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 AM on 07/10/2008
- pinkyboo I'm a Fan of pinkyboo 22 fans permalink

I think Lejouer's point is the HYPOCRISY of some of the posters here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 07/10/2008
- realtalk I'm a Fan of realtalk 13 fans permalink

OBAMA MADE THE DECISION TO VOTE FOR THIS FISA BILL TO PROTECT THE USA. OBAMA HE MADE THE DECISON TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THE OTHER SURVEILLANCE PROGRAMS EXPIRE THIS SUMMER, THAT THERE WILL BE SOMETHING ELSE IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REMAIN SAFE.

OBAMA ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT FISA NEEDED TO BE IN PLACE TO MONITOR AND TRACK INDIVIDUALS LIVING OUTSIDE OUR COUNTRY, WHO WANT TO ATTACK THE USA, AND THAT BECAUSE CERTAIN ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE ORDERS WILL BEGIN TO EXPIRE LATER THIS SUMMER, FISA SURVEILLANCE PROGRAM NEEDS TO BE IN PLACE.

OBAMA MADE THE DECISION TO PROTECT THE USA, HE MADE THE DECISON TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THE SURVEILLANCE PROGRAMS EXPIRE THIS SUMMER, THAT THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE IN PLACE, THIS FISA BILL, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WILL REMAIN SAFE.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barack-obama/my-position-on-fisa_b_110789.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 AM on 07/10/2008
- aubrey8 I'm a Fan of aubrey8 5 fans permalink

Obama pushed the wrong button again by accident....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 AM on 07/10/2008
- rblackbird I'm a Fan of rblackbird 12 fans permalink

I love this response!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 AM on 07/10/2008
- kennedy I'm a Fan of kennedy 19 fans permalink

Amen!

How many months ago did Obama say he would vote against FISA? That is how long it took for Obama to stab all Americans in the back. AGAIN!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 AM on 07/10/2008

OBAMA MADE THE DECISION TO VOTE FOR THIS FISA BILL TO PROTECT THE USA. OBAMA HE MADE THE DECISON TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THE OTHER SURVEILLANCE PROGRAMS EXPIRE THIS SUMMER, THAT THERE WILL BE SOMETHING ELSE IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REMAIN SAFE.

OBAMA ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT FISA NEEDED TO BE IN PLACE TO MONITOR AND TRACK INDIVIDUALS LIVING OUTSIDE OUR COUNTRY, WHO WANT TO ATTACK THE USA, AND THAT BECAUSE CERTAIN ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE ORDERS WILL BEGIN TO EXPIRE LATER THIS SUMMER, FISA SURVEILLANCE PROGRAM NEEDS TO BE IN PLACE.

OBAMA MADE THE DECISION TO PROTECT THE USA, HE MADE THE DECISON TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THE SURVEILLANCE PROGRAMS EXPIRE THIS SUMMER, THAT THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE IN PLACE, THIS FISA BILL, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WILL REMAIN SAFE.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barack-obama/my-position-on-fisa_b_110789.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 07/10/2008
- BubbaC33 I'm a Fan of BubbaC33 37 fans permalink

He meant to vote present.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 AM on 07/10/2008
- djohn78 I'm a Fan of djohn78 3 fans permalink

GO HILLARY!!! HILLARY FOR VP

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 AM on 07/10/2008
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