Obama Donors Told Fundraising A Bit Slow, Urged To Help Clinton

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First Posted: 07- 9-08 09:48 PM   |   Updated: 07-17-08 05:12 AM

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Major donors to Barack Obama's campaign were told Wednesday evening that fundraising efforts were "a little slow" and that they should help retire Hillary Clinton's campaign debt so that the New York Democrat's supporters would, in turn, give to Obama.

"There was no negativity about Hillary," said one Democrat. "In fact the opposite. Fundraising is a little slow and it is very important to ramp it up. Hillary donors are a major source of donor dollars. The message to the troops was 'Get your five checks for Hillary in so that you can ask her donors to give to Barack.'"

The campaign finance team call was made as Clinton and Obama appeared together in New York for a joint fundraiser.

It also came on the heels of a New York Times report that top Obama donors have resisted helping retire the Clinton campaign's debt. The story was downplayed by Clinton confidante Terry McAuliffe, who said on MSNBC that hard feelings between the camps amounted to just a "couple people."

"The idea that the New York Times is going to do another story whacking Hillary Clinton, this is news?" he asked. "Of course not."

But tensions were apparently high enough that the Obama campaign felt the need to address them. In a separate interview, a major Clinton fundraiser said a small number of her compatriots continue to feel upset about their diminished status.

"For better or worse, the Clinton people are used to being courted, and the Obama folks have just a different philosophy," said the donor. "Some of the Clinton people have gotten demanding. Some of them wanted titles, and I think that is totally inappropriate. Why should any Clinton person get to jump ahead of any Obama folks? They want jobs, they want recognition, they want to be in the paper. They want to be considered for an ambassadorship. It is all about ego."

The one-time Clinton backer added: "I happen to think the Obama folks are right. Politicians should not have to spend so much time pandering to the bundlers or donors. But if you are used to that kind of treatment, one might misinterpret that as not caring about their needs."

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The remarks echo many of the sentiments expressed by Clinton donors in the Times story, which reported that Obama supporters have forked over a paltry $100,000 (with more in pledges) so far to Clinton's debt.

But not everyone is so concerned about relations between the two groups. One fundraiser for Obama told the Huffington Post that "the integration of national fundraising teams" always has some turbulence, but that, contrary to press reports, the current friction was "a tempest in a thimble."

"When you move to a new town you learn the culture and the cadence," he said. "There are meetings happening all the time. I have a meeting tonight in my region. We are working to get all the Hillstars involved."

Another donor said she fully expects the issue to be resolved in time with the majority Clinton backers falling in line.

And yet, in interviews with four separate fundraisers (for both Obama and Clinton) there was no shortage of explanations provided for why animosity between the two camps still exists. One individual claimed that the Obama campaign was simply not putting pressure on his donors to help Clinton with her debt.

"They don't feel any penalty for not doing it," she said. "And they won't donate to her if there isn't an incentive to do so."

Another individual stressed that the fact that much of the money would be going to the pockets of Mark Penn -- and that Penn had recently teamed up with former Bush adviser Karen Hughes -- was stymieing donations.

Major donors to Barack Obama's campaign were told Wednesday evening that fundraising efforts were "a little slow" and that they should help retire Hillary Clinton's campaign debt so that the New York ...
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- robynuva I'm a Fan of robynuva 5 fans permalink

Sure, I am going to give money to pay off the debt owed to C's big time consultants, who are running toward anybody on the right who will give them jobs and money. That's gonna happen.

H moved "all in" with a pair of 2's, and when you do that, you lose your stack. End of story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 AM on 07/10/2008
- dct1999 I'm a Fan of dct1999 364 fans permalink
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Hillary's irresponsible, egomaniacal decision to stay in a race she couldn't win is the main reason that I will not donate money. Secondly, the Clintons are multimillionaires who can easily pay their own damn bills.

I haven't donated to Obama since March, I will donate again this month.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 AM on 07/10/2008
- Tropiholic I'm a Fan of Tropiholic 20 fans permalink

If I had wanted to donate $ to Hillary Clinton, I would have done so already. I won't be doing it now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 AM on 07/10/2008

This is about the big money donors who have maxed out [can't give more to their candidate] but are rick enough to have $$ that could be used to help the other candidate.
If rich Obama donors don't help Clinton, rich Clinton donors may not donate to Obama, especially when some Obama supporters continue to insult them.
Why is this so difficult for everyone to figure out?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 07/10/2008
- LABC I'm a Fan of LABC 9 fans permalink

Maybe the rich Clinton supporters should buy some thicker skin. I am getting pretty sick and tired of Clinton supporters and their hurt widdle feelings. Better still, buy a damn bridge and get over it. YOUR GIRL LOST THE PRIMARY!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 07/10/2008

Perhaps you should reread the article. It has nothing to do with the average voter or their money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 07/10/2008
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Good luck with that.
He should be concerned about his own fundraising.
Enthusiasm only runs so deep.
Maybe the "independents" he loves so much will help out.
LOL.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 AM on 07/10/2008
- sandtats I'm a Fan of sandtats 2 fans permalink

"For better or worse, the Clinton people are used to being courted, and the Obama folks have just a different philosophy," said the donor. "Some of the Clinton people have gotten demanding. Some of them wanted titles, and I think that is totally inappropriate. Why should any Clinton person get to jump ahead of any Obama folks? They want jobs, they want recognition, they want to be in the paper. They want to be considered for an ambassadorship. It is all about ego."

"Used to being courted"
"Demanding"
""Wanted titles, jobs, recognition"
"They want to be in the paper"
"They want to be considered for an ambassadorship."
"IT'S ALL ABOUT EGO"

And per CNN, HC's demands of BO include:

Putting her name into nom. at the convention
Paying off her debt
Not pressuring her supporters to donate
BO adopting all of her policies


PRECISELY what has been wrong with the Clinton campaign and its followers from day one; precisely why, after having voted for BC twice, I refused to support her this time around. A sense of entitlement and arrogance, from her and her supporters, is the bedrock of the Clinton brand and even in defeat, their self absorption and narcissism continues. I can only imagine what these supporters would have been demanding of their candidate had she won the WH...the same old Washington insider politics; payback to big donors, lobbyists, PACS and special interests' groups. More of, "it's all about me."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 AM on 07/10/2008
- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 237 fans permalink
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hear, here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 07/10/2008
- PAposter I'm a Fan of PAposter 131 fans permalink
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You are dead on, sandtats!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 AM on 07/10/2008
- dct1999 I'm a Fan of dct1999 364 fans permalink
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Damn straight

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 AM on 07/10/2008
- theone718 I'm a Fan of theone718 23 fans permalink
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I heard Obama totally forgot to ask his donors to donate money to Hill, than he remembered and told them to reach under their chairs where there was a check for them to sign. Lol I am an O supporter but darn did he slip up on that one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 AM on 07/10/2008
- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 237 fans permalink
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Shows me, his priorities are in the right place. ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 07/10/2008

Along with his FISA vote as well! Funny how he seems to want her donors though, huh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 07/10/2008

I am not helping pay Clinton's campaigning debt. She lent herself money to continue in the campaign when she knew the chances were very sling. The Clintons have made over 100 million dollars in 8 years, why we should donate to them? Howard Dean had to fold up his campaign with very enthusiastic supporters due to lack of funding. Hillary's case was the same. Why did she continue in the campaign when she did not have the funding? I think Obama needs the money to fight the GOP in November period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 AM on 07/10/2008

Another one with reading comprehension. Please reread the article! It has to do with big money dollars, are you one of them? Doubt it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 07/10/2008

Thanks. Not sure why all of his "little people" supporters think that Obama is talking to them. Should be clear to them that he only needed them during the primary. Now that he is actively turning his back on them, guess they're getting a little testy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 07/10/2008

I was a HIllary supporter, but not a doner because of the sickening waste and overspending in her 2006 Senate campaign. I had donated to her previous to that. Her campaign this time was similarly wasteful. I see that as disrespectful toward small contributors. The Mark Penn situation did and does turn me off. I don't mind if Hillary has to pay millions out of pocket. She needs to realize that bad behavior has consequences.

Barack needs to realize that too. I know that moving to the center (actually center-right) is the classic tactic for a Democrat who wants to win, but I can't stomach it.
There is no upside to the FISA Bill. The courts will strike down much of it but Bush will pardon the telcoms and we will not learn the extent of the criminality that transpired. Barack knows that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 AM on 07/10/2008
- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 237 fans permalink
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PUMA= Pay Up My A@@! Bwaaahahhahah

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 AM on 07/10/2008
- Nyland8 I'm a Fan of Nyland8 90 fans permalink
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My editor has the day off.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 AM on 07/10/2008
- Nyland8 I'm a Fan of Nyland8 90 fans permalink
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I haven't donated a penny to BHO since the last 2 months of the nomination campaign, when it was already more than clear that Rodham had lost. She had no excuse to continue after the end of March.

As soon as he names a running mate, I'll reopen my wallet. To bail her out is to subsidize her attacks upon him and underwrite her gross irresponsibility. What kind of message does that send? It's would be like giving her a commendation for shooting the party in the foot.

We shouldn't issue medals for acts of "friendly fire".

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 AM on 07/10/2008
- PAposter I'm a Fan of PAposter 131 fans permalink
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Precisely!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 07/10/2008

Why don't we do away with primaries all together then and just ask you who should be the nominee then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 07/10/2008
- Nyland8 I'm a Fan of Nyland8 90 fans permalink
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Non-sequitur. There were half-a-dozen other Democratic Party nominees with much better judgement who were financially responsible and knew when it was their time to drop out. Their campaigns weren't driven by any sense of entitlement ... and their personal wealth hasn't grown by 109 MILLION DOLLARS in the past 7 years.

The notion that she should recover her misspent fortunes on the backs of much poorer registered Democrats is outrageous. She should pay her bills, eat her losses and learn from her mistakes.

If you want to contribute to her campaign chasm, by all means, throw your money away. Those of us who wish to contribute to Obama shouldn't be asked to bankroll her bad judgement.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 07/10/2008
- socks1 I'm a Fan of socks1 2 fans permalink

It might be worth mentioning that the efforts of the people giving what they can, IS NOT about making "stars", of a favored candidate. It is about getting ones candidate (the one that will better REPRESENT ones own ideals) in our governance.

The candidate isn't the star of the moment...... the people are. This fact seems to have gone unnoticed for far too long.

The question is......................what will the giver gain by handing over your own hard earned money to pay off debts that should have never been run up.

The writing was on the wall for months before Hillary finally accepted it. And she is the one that lied to her own people, even after she had lost. And they still think they can use her following to blackmail the Democrats into a better position of influence.

Right now Obama must start dancing with the ones that brung him and start representing them and their needs. This game has become too dear to those of us that are not willing to keep paying someone who isn't going to honor the oath of office........................'defence of the Constitution, at home and abroad' , with a candidate who isn't going to follow through. And Obama baby, you just made a big mistake on the FISA bill vote. That is no small thing to the ones that support you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 AM on 07/10/2008

That 'big mistake' he made was because the telecommunications industry gave him over $206000.00. So, I guess this is "change we can believe in", huh? I will not send him one more dime. Ever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 AM on 07/10/2008
- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 237 fans permalink
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how much did they give her, and mc? knowing ALL the facts help....considering her husband help consolidate ownership, AND deregulation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 AM on 07/10/2008

Vote McCain! is your motto?
Repigs in 08'!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 07/10/2008
- olivia I'm a Fan of olivia 96 fans permalink

$206k is a pittance - not enough to move a person's vote. This is a drop in the bucket. He has raised many millions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 07/10/2008

Hillary - whom I would have been more than happy with as our nominee - will definitely get help from me. Obama? Well, I gave $350 during the primary season (no mean feat considering my personal finances) but haven't donated a penny since he decided to lurch rightward. Will I give again? Haven't decided yet...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 AM on 07/10/2008
- jaschrod I'm a Fan of jaschrod 22 fans permalink

To understand why his donations have tumbled, check out SALON.COM.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 AM on 07/10/2008
- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 237 fans permalink
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Somehow, I don't believe he was much support from the salon crowd anyway, do you??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 07/10/2008
- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 237 fans permalink
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Good thing I held my donations until she 'suspended' her campaign. Hopefully, I and others like me can ease the shortsightedness of his more superficial supporters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 07/10/2008
- clo I'm a Fan of clo permalink

With each state that Hillary won I donated. Her tenacity & ability is inspiring!
Imagine if her 18 MILLION supporters just donated $2.00, walla the debt is paid.
She voted 'NAY' on FISA, proving again she has the spine & smarts to lead this country!
Still love Hillary!
Obama has changed his views on the issues, AFTER he became the presumptive nominee...
Obama, 'change we can believe in' is UNbelievable!
Now I'm caught between a rock & a hard place...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 AM on 07/10/2008
- sandtats I'm a Fan of sandtats 2 fans permalink

BUT, she didn't have the spine, didn't even bother to show up in Feb., on the eve of the VA, D.C. Maryland primaries to vote on the stripping of telecom immunity. Why? She was in northern VA that day campaigning, a mere few minutes drive from the Captiol, and was a NO SHOW. Of the 3 remaining candidates, only BO showed up to vote while HC sat on the sidelines as the amendment went down in defeat. She was a spineless coward, fearful that her vote might strip her of her "ready on day one," tough on terrorism," Commander in Chief" cloak. She didn't voice her moral outrage then, in the thick of an election for political expediency, but now that it's not going to cost her those coveted Independent and centrist votes, she takes the high road? Just like her Iraq vote, calculated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 AM on 07/10/2008
- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 237 fans permalink
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facts are pesty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 AM on 07/10/2008

Yes, and where is the leadership skills in the presumptive nominee to make sure this didn't even get to the floor? No where to be found! When it came time to a vote that really mattered, such as killing this bill once and for all, which side did your darling vote with? Yeah, that's what I thought.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 07/10/2008
- SlithyTove I'm a Fan of SlithyTove 11 fans permalink

I think Obama's triangulation on FISA, guns, faith-based initiatives and the like is the reason fundraising is a "bit slow" as you so quaintly put it. And it's only going to get worse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 AM on 07/10/2008
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