Obama Donors Told Fundraising A Bit Slow, Urged To Help Clinton

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Major donors to Barack Obama's campaign were told Wednesday evening that fundraising efforts were "a little slow" and that they should help retire Hillary Clinton's campaign debt so that the New York Democrat's supporters would, in turn, give to Obama.

"There was no negativity about Hillary," said one Democrat. "In fact the opposite. Fundraising is a little slow and it is very important to ramp it up. Hillary donors are a major source of donor dollars. The message to the troops was 'Get your five checks for Hillary in so that you can ask her donors to give to Barack.'"

The campaign finance team call was made as Clinton and Obama appeared together in New York for a joint fundraiser.

It also came on the heels of a New York Times report that top Obama donors have resisted helping retire the Clinton campaign's debt. The story was downplayed by Clinton confidante Terry McAuliffe, who said on MSNBC that hard feelings between the camps amounted to just a "couple people."

"The idea that the New York Times is going to do another story whacking Hillary Clinton, this is news?" he asked. "Of course not."

But tensions were apparently high enough that the Obama campaign felt the need to address them. In a separate interview, a major Clinton fundraiser said a small number of her compatriots continue to feel upset about their diminished status.

"For better or worse, the Clinton people are used to being courted, and the Obama folks have just a different philosophy," said the donor. "Some of the Clinton people have gotten demanding. Some of them wanted titles, and I think that is totally inappropriate. Why should any Clinton person get to jump ahead of any Obama folks? They want jobs, they want recognition, they want to be in the paper. They want to be considered for an ambassadorship. It is all about ego."

The one-time Clinton backer added: "I happen to think the Obama folks are right. Politicians should not have to spend so much time pandering to the bundlers or donors. But if you are used to that kind of treatment, one might misinterpret that as not caring about their needs."

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The remarks echo many of the sentiments expressed by Clinton donors in the Times story, which reported that Obama supporters have forked over a paltry $100,000 (with more in pledges) so far to Clinton's debt.

But not everyone is so concerned about relations between the two groups. One fundraiser for Obama told the Huffington Post that "the integration of national fundraising teams" always has some turbulence, but that, contrary to press reports, the current friction was "a tempest in a thimble."

"When you move to a new town you learn the culture and the cadence," he said. "There are meetings happening all the time. I have a meeting tonight in my region. We are working to get all the Hillstars involved."

Another donor said she fully expects the issue to be resolved in time with the majority Clinton backers falling in line.

And yet, in interviews with four separate fundraisers (for both Obama and Clinton) there was no shortage of explanations provided for why animosity between the two camps still exists. One individual claimed that the Obama campaign was simply not putting pressure on his donors to help Clinton with her debt.

"They don't feel any penalty for not doing it," she said. "And they won't donate to her if there isn't an incentive to do so."

Another individual stressed that the fact that much of the money would be going to the pockets of Mark Penn -- and that Penn had recently teamed up with former Bush adviser Karen Hughes -- was stymieing donations.

Major donors to Barack Obama's campaign were told Wednesday evening that fundraising efforts were "a little slow" and that they should help retire Hillary Clinton's campaign debt so that the New York ...
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Did you folks read the story? It says that Obama wants her debt paid so her supporters will then pay him. The reason her supporters haven't paid her debt is because some of the cash goes to that slug Penn. Obama doesn't seem to care if the slug takes a big cut, he just wants some donations himself. Due to the tightening economy it is possible that his small timers can't afford any more and it is also possible that his small timers are not happy with him lately. If this trend continues then he will end up sticking his hand out to the big money people whether he wants to or not. Now it comes down to will he act like we want him to or like the rich want him to.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 AM on 07/10/2008
- PumaAnn I'm a Fan of PumaAnn 27 fans permalink

What this story failed to say was how many of her doners have opted out of helping Obama. The paltry 100,000 he has raised is a joke.

Meanwhile, her supporters have now paid down half of the debt this past month.

I said all along, no need for Obama to push paying off her debt. He's the one with the most to gain from doing so. If he doesn't need the money from her Dems, that's dandy.

Apparently, that's how it's playing out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 AM on 07/10/2008
- flydoghead I'm a Fan of flydoghead 37 fans permalink
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what is a 'doner' ?

is it anything like the same word that starts with a "B"

what 100,000 are you talking about ?

His fund raising is going just fine, most of us are sitting back to make sure he doesn't

do anything stupid like bring on HRC as VP, then the checkbook will come back out

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 AM on 07/10/2008
- Veratruth I'm a Fan of Veratruth 19 fans permalink
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I think some of the supporters you are talking about are over at Obama's Web site complaining to no end about the FISA bill, and not contributing. Some of them probably never gave anyway. They have almost taken over the site. Their attitude is unbelievable and they act like they are on a mission. They were pretending and poking fun until I left.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 AM on 07/10/2008
- MegWe I'm a Fan of MegWe 32 fans permalink

Um - most of the people complaining loudest on his website are Republican trolls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 AM on 07/10/2008
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The Clintons and there crew are toxic baggage that the Obama camp needs to dump they have done nothing even thought they swore they would throw all thier attention time and energy behind Obama should he be the nominee now instead HRC only suspended, holds on tightly to her delegates, took every oppurtunity to degrade a worthy fellow party member during the primary, pandered, lied, will not call her off her PUMA and the like henchmen, still has yet to show any real support or unity especialy now that she has gotten herself a lawyer to work out all the wonderful party Unity. Mean while Obama has been nothing but gracious and bending over backwards to extend the olive branch. i think it is now time to let this one go...they a more of a detroment the an asset.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 AM on 07/10/2008
- lincheryl I'm a Fan of lincheryl 6 fans permalink

Why should we donate when she is spending money on a lawyer NOW in an attempt to disrupt the convention with an ego trip that will divide. I don't think so. Does she not think we see that?

Also--insulting what she has gotten as paltry--total lack of appreciation. Anything I could give would also be paltry, so I will put it in a place where it is appreciated. Obama likes my small donations!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 AM on 07/10/2008
- PumaAnn I'm a Fan of PumaAnn 27 fans permalink

You want credit for 100,000? LOL*

That's rich.

That is an insult. Her doners point out, rightly, that he's not living up to his end of the agreement with her. He'll not get much support that way.

You guys are reportedly falling down on the job. McCain outraised him last month.

Better open up that wallet!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 AM on 07/10/2008
- PumaAnn I'm a Fan of PumaAnn 27 fans permalink

She can't call off PUMA. We are independent. We are not her puppets. And we have issues that go beyond Hillary as a candidate.

It's beyond her control.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 AM on 07/10/2008
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why aren't you helping pay down her debt if you love her so much...we Obama supporters have... show us you love her by donating to her debt....then we'll talk..after all it's 18 million of you, right? do a drive....LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 AM on 07/10/2008

"Its beyond her control"

And you thing it is under Obama control whether or not his supporters donate to her?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 AM on 07/10/2008

18 million.... your mommy is calling you!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 AM on 07/10/2008

Why wont these 18 million give just one dollar, so that she can retire her debt...dang...they are cheap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 AM on 07/10/2008
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She need to holla at the PUMAS's and her own "top fundraisers" for that. I will not award horrible behavior of a multi millionaire...not now, not ever. Especialy when she and everyone who surronds her acts like they are entitled and wants the Obama Camp to kiss there egotistical arses...*shaking my head* not a dime of my money...nope. All my energy is for Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 AM on 07/10/2008
- PumaAnn I'm a Fan of PumaAnn 27 fans permalink

That's the unity spirit! :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 AM on 07/10/2008
- flydoghead I'm a Fan of flydoghead 37 fans permalink
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we won't reward bad behavior...

and if you can't even pay off your candiates debts then why should

we fear your great threats ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 AM on 07/10/2008
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Not given a dime to that Sweaty H O G Mark Penn...I got your go ugly early right here

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 07/10/2008
- iburl I'm a Fan of iburl 3 fans permalink
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No Welfare for Millionaires. Obama is going to need that money, now that he is shedding many of his original donors. Hillary made the mistake of sticking 20% of her vast fortune into her campaign. Let her pay it off. This is blackmail at the cost of Obama's campaign. Hillary and her supporters are self centered and full of entitlement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 AM on 07/10/2008
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I'm a small donor who gave some of my hard earned cash to Obama earlier this year. Now that he's taken on the Supreme Court for its first intelligent decision on the death penalty in years, and joined hands with his corporate sponsors (as well as changed his original position) by voting in support of the unconstitutional FISA bill, not only won't I give him a dime more, I plan on mocking as "morons, psychopaths and mental defectives" anyone of my acquaintance who continues to contribute to either Obama or McCain (thank you Nat Lamp's Radio Dinner for that line, it always brings a smile).
We need a third party, real bad. But one that isn't full of nutters (start how they may, it's how they usually end up). Mind you, the two majors are populated by some of the biggest loons in America, but it's mainstream lunacy, so no one notices.
Here's the challenge folks: other than in the fantasy world of the Firesign Theatre, can a third party be formed in America that can lay claim to the Firesign's campaign slogan: "Not Insane"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 AM on 07/10/2008
- nk007 I'm a Fan of nk007 29 fans permalink

Verite,

I am sorry to say but I think you are the "moron" because you propagate lies. I am just not sold that you were ever a sincere Obama supporter. Look I disagree with Obama on FISA though I reject the claim that he changed his position that drastically since he voted against immunity for the telecoms. Hey change candidates still have to be pragmatic. This was true of the great Emancipator, Abraham Lincoln who tried to compromise with slavery in order to save the Union. I am so disappointed that self-righteous people like you show no understanding of the history or the nature of politics. Some one on a different progressive site asked people to name one president who never compromised on principles. No one was able to name one. Someone named RFK though we never knew what he would have done had he become the nominee. Look, Thomas Jefferson, the darling of the progressives, whose immortal words: We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal...." was a slave owner who never freed his over 200 slaves. FDR was no paragon of virtue given his detention camps for American citizens of Japanese ancestry as well as his failure to support a federal anti-lynching law. Compared to thes American icons, Obama's compromise on FISA is really not such a big deal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 AM on 07/10/2008
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I totally disagree with your characterization of Lincoln. This prevalent view as to his motives is the result of conservative historians for whom it is Lincoln the statesman above all. There is no doubt in my mind that Lincoln prosecuted the war to end slavery. The South was right about him, and what he would try to do if he became President. Lincoln's social philosophy and religious views would not admit slavery in the way that Jefferson's enlightenment / neo-classical worldview would.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 AM on 07/10/2008
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oh here's a smart American for you.... I love how history continue to play out.....

yeah, 00/2000 let our world fry... thanks Verite you rock...

for the sane ones.... if you vote for that racist Nader then you get what you get...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 AM on 07/10/2008
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This is for Mr. Advocate above and nkJames Bond below...
A) Wow, Ralph Nader a racist, that's a good one, if you have any left Mr. Advocate can you send me what you're smoking?
B) Oh my, why can't I understand all about compromise and Realpolitik history like nkJames Bond, I guess I must have been smoking something similar to Mr. Advocate when I spent the last 35 years studying history, engaged in politics and practicing law.
Look kiddies, being a humanist doesn't mean you have to compromise because some sod who wants to be president has the moral fiber of Wonder Bread.
The Constitution means a great deal to me, as I have spent years fighting for its principles in the law courts of two of the original states. I'm all for political compromise where it counts, i.e., when voting on legislature that does NOT infringe on the Bill of Rights.
Nope, I'm sticking with alternative candidates: Papoon for President in '08, we need him now more than ever. He knows when to come in out of the rain, because he's Not Insane.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 07/10/2008
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First she should have dropped out months before she did when the math said she couldn't win...Instead she chose to drag this d e a d horse around and rack up more debt..Now she wants us the ones she called "dreamers" to help her pay off her debt..Her campaign was ugly and it was even more uglier at the end. Please I'd rather use my money to buy more koolaid!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 AM on 07/10/2008
- John51 I'm a Fan of John51 10 fans permalink

Her campaign may have seemed over the top but as it turns out she was right; words do not make a man - keeping your Word does. Sen. Obama is a coward and unfit for the Office of the president. We need a president with a Back-Bone and today Sen. Obama has demonstrated he was born without one. When the current president slithers out of office we do not need another one slithering in. We need a person that stands behind their word and the principles of our Democracy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 AM on 07/10/2008
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You pay her debt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 AM on 07/10/2008

You think back-Bone means buying Democracy or the presidency? Because thats what it will mean if he has to settle her debts to be president.

Instead he is showing what having a Bac-Bone really means,i.e not caving in to blackmail.Thats the president i want.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 AM on 07/10/2008
- PumaAnn I'm a Fan of PumaAnn 27 fans permalink

Ah yes, and Obama reached the required delegate number......

Oh wait......that's the myth!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 AM on 07/10/2008
- flydoghead I'm a Fan of flydoghead 37 fans permalink
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bitter much ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 AM on 07/10/2008
- JackNasty I'm a Fan of JackNasty 71 fans permalink
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Has Rush Limbaugh written Hillary a check for her support of his Operation Chaos?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 AM on 07/10/2008
- TN I'm a Fan of TN 28 fans permalink

CNN should pay back her campaign debt as they made the most money pretending for months that it was still a race.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 AM on 07/10/2008

So true even Pat Buchanna knew it was over

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 AM on 07/10/2008

We do not hear much about kids selling their skate boards to send the money to Hillary anymore.
I don't want to diss her too much, if Barak keeps going the way he has been recently, I may just have to write her name in on the ballot.

This is really turning into a very stupid election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 07/10/2008
- John51 I'm a Fan of John51 10 fans permalink

I agree and feel like the fool for letting her go. Look at what we got for a nominee now. The only CHANGE he knows is how to CHANGE his mind and even that seems to be for the highest bidder. The Tel-Cons paid Sen Obama $220,000.00 for his CHANGE. Sen. Obama should CHANGE his campaign slogan to "CHANGE YOU CAN BUY......".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 AM on 07/10/2008
- nk007 I'm a Fan of nk007 29 fans permalink

John51

Will you please provide us proof to support your accusation that "Tel-cons paid Obama $220,00.00 for his CHANGE." If you do I will reconsider my support for Obama. If you don't all you are doing is print baseless, and vile remarks aimed it inflaming people who do not pay attention to the news. SO PLEASE GIVE US PROOF AS TO WHY YOU SAY OBAMA should change his slogan to "CHANGE YOU CAN BUY......" IF YOU DON'T YOU NOTHING BUT A SLIMMY LYING PERSON.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 AM on 07/10/2008
- flydoghead I'm a Fan of flydoghead 37 fans permalink
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sources please

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 AM on 07/10/2008
- PumaAnn I'm a Fan of PumaAnn 27 fans permalink

Come join us at PUMA.....:)

It's not too late!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 AM on 07/10/2008
- researcher I'm a Fan of researcher 114 fans permalink

suckers

no more needs to be said

there is a sucker made every minute and two to take them

ie obama and clinton

cannot run her own primary but wanted to run country

until we clean house in wash nothing will change

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 07/10/2008

I'm sorry, but are you able to repost that comment in English?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 AM on 07/10/2008

As the saying goes, "You gotta dance with who brung ya."

The progressive base backed Obama with their money and votes, and got him the Democratic nomination.

Today, Senator Obama provided political cover for the Blue Dog Democrats with his FISA vote.

Taking the progressive base for granted is a tactical error. There are plenty of candidates in other contests that need money--and if those candidates are more committed to our Constitution than Senator Obama, guess where all those progressive donations are headed?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 07/10/2008
- rosal I'm a Fan of rosal 337 fans permalink
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Are you the spoke person for every progressive in this country? Please speak for yourself. You can do with your money whatever you please, I will give mine to Obama, get it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 AM on 07/10/2008
- nk007 I'm a Fan of nk007 29 fans permalink

I am a die-hard progressive who still supports Obama. Progressives like you are hypocrites. I never saw you abandon Russ Feingold, whom I deeply respect, for voting for Chief Justice John Roberts who will probably have more constitutional impact than the FISA bill that could be amended by the next congress and signed into law by the next president. Roberts is going to be on the court for a very long time impacting on the way the constitution is interpreted. So enough of this one sided self righteousness. Feingold voted Roberts, Edwards, Dood, Clinton, Byden voted for the war. The only one left who may be a pure progressive is Dennis Kucinich, but unfortunately he never attracted that many votes. Go ahead and elect McCain and then feel good at how principled, and pure you are as a progressive. For me a McCain election would be further proof of how immature and self destructive we progressives are. Please don't try to lecture me that there is no difference between Obama and McCain. I heard the same nonsense in 2000 and 2004. I don't think we would be discussing FISA had progressives, who barked Nader, voted for Al Gore. I am beginning to think, and this just a hunch, that there are some of us in the progressive movement who love to see Republicans win so that we may continue to earn money publishing books attacking Republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 AM on 07/10/2008
- PumaAnn I'm a Fan of PumaAnn 27 fans permalink

I know I'm sure proud of the candidate I backed. Her position on FISA was right on the money to me. I'm moderate, but this particular bill was bad law, bad principle, and very bad to pass. Too bad Pelosi pushed it through, but I have no respect for her anyway.

The Courts will hopefully boot this bad law to the curb.

I'd hate to have backed Obama. Man, what a slimy flip-flop! I can surely understand why many true left-leaning Democrats are mad and have decided to close their checkbooks on the guy.

He betrayed them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 AM on 07/10/2008
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