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Iraqis Continue To Insist On Timetable For Withdrawal

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July 10, 2008 12:14 PM


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Earlier this week, Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki stated that forthcoming agreements with the United States would include a timetable for the withdrawal of U.S. troops. At the time, State Department spokesman Sean McCormick joined with the Bush administration in pretending to not know what al Maliki was talking about:

Well, that's really the part - the point at which I would seek greater clarification in terms of remarks. I've seen the same press reports that you have. But I haven't yet had an opportunity to get greater clarity as to exactly to what Mr. Maliki was referring or if, in fact, that's an accurate reporting of what he said.

Here's that greater clarity for you!

Iraqi spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said in Baghdad on Wednesday that a U.S. pullout could be completed in several years. "It can be 2011 or 2012," he said. "We don't have a specific date in mind, but we need to agree on the principle of setting a deadline."

That comes buried deep in a story in today's Washington Post, titled "U.S. General: Iraqi Forces to Be Fully Ready in '09." That sort of hints that we should be thinking in the very short-term for the end of the Iraq occupation, right? Why then, is al-Dabbagh's statement equated with the duration of "several years?" A timetable that fixes on completing the withdrawal in 2011 is just six months longer than the withdrawal plan that Senator Barack Obama has long favored.

That's probably why the White House is still weaseling around. Tony Fratto greeted the remarks thusly: "We'd like to have a date that we can reach for as a goal when coalition forces can make this transition, but it should be based on ground conditions." But what's to be gained by refusing to leave? I'd say that when the sovereign government of Iraq is telling you the end of the party is drawing nigh, that qualifies as a "ground condition."

 
 

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- poco767b See Profile I'm a Fan of poco767b permalink

What right do they have to insist on anything? it's not like it is their country, it belongs to Exxon and Haliburton now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 07/10/2008
- williamg See Profile I'm a Fan of williamg permalink

Maliki better watch out. He may find himself hiding in a spider hole like a certain ex-leader of Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 07/10/2008
- luvangelHussein330 See Profile I'm a Fan of luvangelHussein330 permalink

Well thats good since Obama has been saying that for the longest time as well...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 07/10/2008
- pitneo See Profile I'm a Fan of pitneo permalink

If they don't shut up soon, they might get Bush mad and cause another invasion:) .....although I hope that doesn't happen.

We need to stop agreeing to go to war and that's the only way to stop Bush and his war mongers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 07/10/2008
- Tamalpais See Profile I'm a Fan of Tamalpais permalink

That is funny, they actually think that they have a say in this matter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 07/10/2008
- justobserve See Profile I'm a Fan of justobserve permalink

The fact is Americans can't stand a prolonged war. Anything longer than the Kuwait war will be protested against.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 07/10/2008
- JimR See Profile I'm a Fan of JimR permalink

If they keep this crap up, we're going to have to invade them again!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 07/10/2008
- southafrica4obama See Profile I'm a Fan of southafrica4obama permalink

Just as I thought

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 07/10/2008
- chirps See Profile I'm a Fan of chirps permalink


Bush to Maliki: "You say goodbye and I say hello..."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 07/10/2008
- Meggie See Profile I'm a Fan of Meggie permalink

Good luck Iraqis! We've been screaming it for a while now. If you're not careful, you'll be directed to the corral-type area behind the tape where the cameras don't see you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 07/10/2008
- bygollymissmolly See Profile I'm a Fan of bygollymissmolly permalink

General: Iraqi Forces to Be Fully Ready in '09."
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That is a bunch of BS. They are no where near ready now after trying to train them for 7 years. How can we get in done in another 6-8 months.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 07/10/2008
- JohnTalbutt See Profile I'm a Fan of JohnTalbutt permalink

Do you realize that the entire able bodied male population had military training and those in their late thirties were in combat with Iran. Many of them have had a lot more training that their trainers.

They know how to fight if they are not divided politically. And Maliki is apparently saying that they have a viable coalition.

What is probably holding things up is that they really do want their country back and that means the oil and no occupation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 07/10/2008
- PATina See Profile I'm a Fan of PATina permalink

It doesn't take 6 to 8 months to train our own troops to go fight in Iraq or Afghanistan. If the Iraqi forces are NOT ready in 6 to 8 months... it's my feeling that the US military is just stalling for time to stay in Iraq longer than necessary.

Add to the fact that it's been YEARS since Mission Accomplished... they should have already been trained and we should have been out.

One more thing... if the Iraqi's are asking us to set a date for withdrawal... they obviously feel they or ready. Or maybe they are telling us 'to s*** or get off the pot"

Either way... we should leave.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 07/10/2008
- Soothsayer08 See Profile I'm a Fan of Soothsayer08 permalink

They have probably always been ready but not in Bush's opinion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 07/10/2008
- levibatgirl See Profile I'm a Fan of levibatgirl permalink

Try this Maliki, "Get the he// out of my country!!!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 07/10/2008
- Bluejay00234 See Profile I'm a Fan of Bluejay00234 permalink

But...but what about the 100 years?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 07/10/2008
- marc1antony See Profile I'm a Fan of marc1antony permalink

best way to get the Americans out - have the occupied country continue to voice their opposition to the occupation. Shame Bush into leaving - (as if that's even possible, it's about the oil, stupid!)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 07/10/2008
- V4Vigilance See Profile I'm a Fan of V4Vigilance permalink

Don't you hate it when somebody repeatedly uses the wrong word or phrase; e.g., you know they mean "please, stay as long as you want" but they keep saying "let us know when you plan to leave, the sooner the better"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 07/10/2008
- savagetiger See Profile I'm a Fan of savagetiger permalink

Don't you hate it when someone writes a comment that adds no relevant discourse - and is obviously at a distinct intelligent disadvantage while continuing to try to sound smart?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 07/10/2008
- V4Vigilance See Profile I'm a Fan of V4Vigilance permalink

I do appreciate self-deprecating humor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 07/10/2008
- abouttime See Profile I'm a Fan of abouttime permalink

How are things in Iraq?
Seems the mainstream media and HufPo are not that interested!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 07/10/2008
- Meggie See Profile I'm a Fan of Meggie permalink

Things are: the Iraqis want us to leave and Bush & Co are stalling. all any American needs to be interested in. it's not our country, and they clearly want it back with us out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 07/10/2008
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