Rove Ignores Subpoena, Refuses To Testify

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First Posted: 07-10-08 11:05 AM   |   Updated: 07-18-08 05:12 AM

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WASHINGTON — Former White House adviser Karl Rove defied a congressional subpoena and refused to testify Thursday about allegations of political pressure at the Justice Department, including whether he influenced the prosecution of a former Democratic governor of Alabama.

Rep. Linda Sanchez, chairman of a House subcommittee, ruled with backing from fellow Democrats on the panel that Rove was breaking the law by refusing to cooperate _ perhaps the first step toward holding him in contempt of Congress.

Lawmakers subpoenaed Rove in May in an effort to force him to talk about whether he played a role in prosecutors' decisions to pursue cases against Democrats, such as former Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman, or in firing federal prosecutors considered disloyal to the Bush administration.

Rove had been scheduled to appear at the House Judiciary subcommittee hearing Thursday morning. A placard with his name sat in front of an empty chair at the witness table, with a handful of protesters behind it calling for Rove to be arrested.

A decision on whether to pursue contempt charges now goes to the full Judiciary Committee and ultimately to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

House Republicans called Thursday's proceedings a political stunt and said if Democrats truly wanted information they would take Rove up on an offer he made to discuss the matter informally.

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The House already has voted to hold two of President Bush's confidants in contempt for failing to cooperate with its inquiry into whether the administration fired nine federal prosecutors in 2006 for political reasons.

The case, involving White House chief of staff Josh Bolten and former White House counsel Harriet Miers, is in federal court and may not be resolved before Bush's term ends in January.

The White House has cited executive privilege, arguing that internal administration communications are confidential and that Congress cannot compel officials to testify.

Rove says he is bound to follow the White House's guidance, although he has offered to answer questions specifically on the Siegelman case _ but only with no transcript taken and not under oath.

Democrats have rejected the offer because the testimony would not be sworn and, they say, could create a confusing record.

Rove has insisted publicly that he never tried to influence Justice Department decisions and was not even aware of the Siegelman prosecution until it landed in the news.

Siegelman _ an unusually successful Democrat in a heavily Republican state _ was charged with accepting and concealing a contribution to his campaign to start a state education lottery, in exchange for appointing a hospital executive to a regulatory board.

He was sentenced last year to more than seven years in prison but was released in March when a federal appeals court ruled Siegelman had raised "substantial questions of fact and law" in his appeal.

Siegelman and others have alleged the prosecution was pushed by GOP operatives _ including Rove, a longtime Texas strategist who was heavily involved in Alabama politics before working at the White House. A former Republican campaign volunteer from Alabama told congressional attorneys last year that she overheard conversations suggesting that Rove pressed Justice officials in Washington to prosecute Siegelman.

The career prosecutors who handled Siegelman's case have insisted that Rove had nothing to do with it, emphasizing that the former governor was convicted by a jury.

WASHINGTON — Former White House adviser Karl Rove defied a congressional subpoena and refused to testify Thursday about allegations of political pressure at the Justice Department, including whe...
WASHINGTON — Former White House adviser Karl Rove defied a congressional subpoena and refused to testify Thursday about allegations of political pressure at the Justice Department, including whe...
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- Frenbar I'm a Fan of Frenbar 24 fans permalink
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"A decision on whether to pursue contempt charges now goes to the full Judiciary Committee and ultimately to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi."

You can be sure that any substantive action against Rove will be stopped cold by Pelosi, who has done everything in her power to shield the Bush administration from accountability.

The pack of Democratic enablers led by Pelosi will go down in history as willing accomplices to the many crimes of the Bush administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 07/10/2008
- Denemator I'm a Fan of Denemator 10 fans permalink

I wonder what they have for blackmail material to be able to have her dance to their tune.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 07/10/2008
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Dollar bills.
Democrats respond well to dollar bills.
Try it sometime. I've seen one get dizzy and fall down when someone offered him some dollars. I've heard they will sell anything at all for a few of them. Their scruples go first and are pretty cheap actually..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 07/10/2008
- Piatt I'm a Fan of Piatt 15 fans permalink

Issue a contempt citation and have the SOB arrested.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 07/10/2008
- Ivar I'm a Fan of Ivar 2 fans permalink

Piatt.....­.......BIN­GO!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 07/10/2008
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Yep. That's about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 07/10/2008
- springsm I'm a Fan of springsm 50 fans permalink

If we had ANY leadership in the Senate, this guy would be met at his front door by the FBI. Alas...and he knows it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 07/10/2008
- Frenbar I'm a Fan of Frenbar 24 fans permalink
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Unfortunately the FBI falls under the jurisdiction of the justice department, which has made it clear that it will not recognize any crimes commited by Bush or his minions.

We can all thank Democractic enabler Chuck Shumer for installing Bush-stooge Muskasey.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 07/10/2008
- Denemator I'm a Fan of Denemator 10 fans permalink

Actually this is a house investigation, but point taken

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 07/10/2008
- lornejl1 I'm a Fan of lornejl1 2 fans permalink
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If he testified, he would lie his butt off, the dems would do nothing and he would be on his merry way. Rove has saved us from having to watch another useless dog and pony show.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 07/10/2008
- lthuedk 1 I'm a Fan of lthuedk 1 45 fans permalink
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Rove delivered a dictatorship. What exactly are we going to do about him?

http://www.light-to-dark.com/karl_rove_plays.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 07/10/2008
- jfor I'm a Fan of jfor 15 fans permalink

What happens when you break the law my fellow citizen? When you don't pull over for the cop who caught you speeding, for not paying a parking ticket, for refusing to show up in court, for resisting arrest and for a number of other things a million times less important that what Mr. Rove and his boss have done?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 07/10/2008
- Denemator I'm a Fan of Denemator 10 fans permalink

So can now everyone claim legal precedent to ignore subpoena's, I mean what is good for the goose etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 07/10/2008
- jfor I'm a Fan of jfor 15 fans permalink

absolutely, we all are deciders now. Go forth and be free. You deserve everything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 07/10/2008
- Blutus I'm a Fan of Blutus 11 fans permalink

They won't lay a glove on him.

The Dems don't have the guts.

And that's why we are still in Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 07/10/2008
- jfor I'm a Fan of jfor 15 fans permalink

I would have replaced the g with an n.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 07/10/2008
- AnnieinOR I'm a Fan of AnnieinOR 24 fans permalink

me too!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 07/10/2008
- lbolle I'm a Fan of lbolle 3 fans permalink

They damned well better throw his fat carcass in jail for contempt or I will never forgive them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 07/10/2008
- Wanjiru I'm a Fan of Wanjiru 13 fans permalink
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...Karl Rove ignored a Congressional subpoena...

...not news at all...

...the real news is that anyone would be surprised by this, not the least of all, Congress...

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 07/10/2008

the article states, "A decision on whether to pursue contempt charges now goes to the full Judiciary Committee and ultimately to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi."

Which means, more than likely, that he's off the hook...for now. But ,God willing, this will be rectified when the current administration AND Pelosi are GONE. Problem with Rove being brought up on any charges right now is that Bush will pardon him.

I'd be shocked if Pelosi did anything and I can't wait for her and many others to be voted out of office.

Peace!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 07/10/2008
- rkrenke I'm a Fan of rkrenke 20 fans permalink

Can Bush pardon Rove before he's convicted?

It seems to me that Rove could be tried on numerous charges, which means that one or multiple trials could last for months. I'm not sure if Bush can issue blanket pardons upon leaving office if there's been no conviction, i.e., trial still pending. Does anyone know how this works?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 07/10/2008
- Destin I'm a Fan of Destin 55 fans permalink
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No, can't pardon someone ahead of time just because they might run afoul of the law in the future. The reason for that is, the existance in the Constitution of ex post facto laws, which prevents someone being convicted of something in a future law change. Because of that, there's no need to pardon someone ahead of the fact. Pardons have to be pardoned after the fact.

Course, the Constitution says a pardon can't be used in a case of impeachment, lol, so Ford bent the rules by pardoning NIxon to avoid an impeachment. GOP loves to violate the Constitution at every opportunity, which means, they'll probably give Rove a "pardon for life" that will allow him to commit any future crimes and never be held accountable. ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 07/10/2008
- StuCop I'm a Fan of StuCop 4 fans permalink

Ford pardoned Nixon before he was convicted....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 07/10/2008
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 134 fans permalink

The question is: Will Bush resign one hour before Obama's inaugeration in order for Cheney to be President long enough to pardon Bush?

Because it is clear that Bush will pardon everyone in sight.

But who will pardon Bush?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 07/10/2008
- RTIII I'm a Fan of RTIII 79 fans permalink


Blanket charges, no.

The Pres can only pardon criminal offenses.

The recipient of the pardon must admit guilt to the crime in order to accept the pardon. By doing so, they may be subject to secondary effects of conviction, such as the inability to own a firearm, vote, or hold certain public offices.

The Pres CAN pardon before charges are brought, however.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 07/10/2008
- StuCop I'm a Fan of StuCop 4 fans permalink

ohhhh...conyers wrote rove's lawyer a harshly worded letter...that also gave him 5 extra days...boy those dems are fierce!!! i'm sure rove is shaking in his boots!

"This letter is to formally notify you that we must insist on compliance with the subpoena and urge you to reconsider your position... . Please let us know no later than Tuesday July, 15 if Mr. Rove will comply with the subpoena, or we will proceed to consider all other appropriate recourse,"

ohhhh...oh­hhh...scar­y!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 PM on 07/10/2008

Lock him up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 07/10/2008
- NotMcCain I'm a Fan of NotMcCain 72 fans permalink
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They know this liar's not going to testify under oath. He wants to be able to lie -without- committing perjury, just like his bosses did.

Duh.

The placard's stupid. What's the real plan? Are Dems going to ever grow a pair and put this guy in JAIL????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 07/10/2008
- eggman I'm a Fan of eggman 20 fans permalink

Bush would just pardon him. It might be better to wait until Jan 2009

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 07/10/2008
- RTIII I'm a Fan of RTIII 79 fans permalink


It's not entirely clear that he can. You see, this isn't a normal criminal situation.

Congress has a right to get testimony and compel its deliverance, under oath. Failure to comply isn't covered under the usual criminal offense statutes, but, rather, a part of the constitution itself.

The president can pardon criminal actions, but if I understand it correctly, congress can hold a person for contempt in their own jail - a jail that is (or was!) a part of the Capitol building itself - _without_ involving the usual courts. Because the process by which Congress acts isn't a part of the usual criminal proceedings, it may be exempt from the pardon.

Note that Nixon's case doesn't shed light on this because he resigned, and _then_ Ford, as the new president, pardoned him for the about to be brought charges of orchestrating the Watergate burglary of the DNC headquarters. That is, impeachment wasn't a part of the pardon, it was an ordinary criminal offense, albeit also a high-crime from the constitution's standpoint.

Any lawyers in the crowd to clarify this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 07/10/2008
- KOisGod I'm a Fan of KOisGod 322 fans permalink
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Bush crime family, aka, the Texas Mafia, don't need no stinking laws. They ARE the law.

Go after Rove's underlings

They'll flip on him

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 07/10/2008
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Don't bother going after his underlings. He wears a cup.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 07/10/2008
- indypete I'm a Fan of indypete 148 fans permalink
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Good one, Red!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 AM on 07/11/2008
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Hey, Rover, if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about, right? Isn't that what you fascists always say when you're wiping your behind with the Bill of Rights?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 07/10/2008
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If I were him (shudder), I would not be worried.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 07/10/2008
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No. We fascists say... do you think if I fold it in half I can get more than two wipes or do you think you could pass me a democrat?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 07/10/2008
- indypete I'm a Fan of indypete 148 fans permalink
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A sense of humor! Who are you and what have you done with Redrover?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 AM on 07/11/2008
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