McCain's List Of 300 Economists Filled With Skeptics

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First Posted: 07-11-08 11:44 AM   |   Updated: 07-19-08 05:12 AM

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Three times in the past two days, Sen. John McCain has proclaimed that 300 economists have enthusiastically endorsed his "Jobs for America" economic plan. The number, line, and message are highly misleading.

On Wednesday, Politico reported that a handful of those 300 had expressed reservations with McCain's "policy prescriptions." One wasn't even supporting the Arizona Republican for president.

Nevertheless, McCain again touted the support of the economists during a townhall event last night. So the Huffington Post decided to dig in a bit further, sending emails to roughly 150 members of the list. The response, from roughly a fifth of that group, was telling. Many of the economists whom McCain cited were generally supportive of his economic goals. But their support was tempered by strong objections towards specific proposals as well as deeper skepticism to the non-economic components of McCain's candidacy. Many felt compelled to clarify that their show of support for the Arizona Republican's economic proposals shouldn't be misinterpreted as an endorsement of his presidential campaign.

"Yes, I support the Jobs for America policy proposal, especially a simplified tax code, lower restrictions on trade, and energy development," said Michael Connolly, Professor of Economics, University of Miami. "[But] I am worried that continuing the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will tear apart our social fabric and defeat any economic proposal to reduce the deficit and stimulate growth. Guns are crowding out butter."

This past week, the McCain campaign presented the list of the economists as backing a general statement outlining the Senator's economic objectives. But when asked to weigh in on specific proposals -- as opposed to the 403-word executive summary -- many in the group shuddered. Among individual policies, McCain's idea of a gas tax holiday was the one most scoffed at with nary an economist offering a defense.

"It would do nothing but increase the quantity demanded - and it wouldn't increase supply," wrote Dave Garthoff of the University of Akron. "So price would just go back up again until demand and supply approached equilibrium, and everyone would blame the oil companies."

Others, meanwhile, said they were not supportive of McCain's pledge to balance the budget by 2013. "No, I think some flexibility to run deficits and surpluses, although I agree that the deficit is too large," said Glenn MacDonald, Distinguished Professor of Economics and Strategy at Washington University in St. Louis.

One economist said his endorsement was for the "general economic principles only" before expressing disagreement with some of plan's specifics.

Do you support making the 2001 tax cuts permanent?," asked the Huffington Post. "No," replied Peter J Van Blokland, University of Florida.

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Do you recommend a temporary gas tax holiday to address rising energy costs? "No."

Do you support a pledge to balance the budget by 2013? "No."

Do you consider your participation in the letter an endorsement of McCain for president? "No."

For several of the 300, McCain's economic proposals were overshadowed by their concerns about his foreign policy. In addition to Connolly, Professor Tom Lehman, of Indiana Wesleyan University, declined to endorse McCain's presidential candidacy.

"I have serious disagreements with McCain on the foreign policy issues, particularly the Iraq War," he said. "However, I support McCain's general approach to issues of economics, specifically his support of free trade, retention of tax cuts, balanced budget, and general free-market philosophy."

Others thought McCain was not conservative enough. One economist said he would not be supporting the presumptive Republican nominee because he (the economist) was a Libertarian. Stephen J. Dempsey, a professor at the University of Vermont's School of Business Administration, decried McCain's proposals as baby steps.

"Yes, I support making the tax cuts permanent," he wrote. "I think a gas tax holiday is a band-aid on an amputated limb. I am in full support of balancing the budget by reducing government expenditures on wasteful programs. My signing the letter is not an endorsement of McCain. We could have done much better (i.e., a true conservative)."

To be sure, more than a handful of those who responded to the Huffington Post said that their endorsement of the Jobs for America plan was, by extension, a pledge of support for McCain's candidacy. (This shouldn't come as a major surprise -- a review found that 166 of McCain's economist backers also signed a letter in 2000 trumpeting George W. Bush's economic agenda.)

"Speaking for myself only," wrote Martin Eichenbaum, Ethel and John Lindgren Professor of Economics at Northwestern University. "I support the general principals advocated by Senator McCain as well as many, but not necessarily all, of the detailed policy proposals he has made. I would very much like to balance the budget by 2013. I certainly consider my participation in the letter to be an endorsement of Senator McCain for president."

But clearly the list that the McCain campaign presented does not consist of enthusiastic endorsers. If anything it seems -- from this un-scientific sampling of responders -- that the economists who plan on voting for the Arizona Republican are doing so because he represents, for them, the lesser of two evils.

That is, except for Charles Rowley, a professor at George Mason University, who isn't an American citizen.

"I view my endorsement as an endorsement of the general economic principles so far outlined by John McCain," he wrote. "Since Barack Obama proposes significant increases in the size of government, significant hikes in tax rates, ongoing toleration for pork-barrel legislation, long-term budget deficits and, most seriously, a significant shift towards trade protection, evidently, in terms of the general principles outlined in the letter that I have endorsed, I must prefer John McCain as a presidential candidate in an imperfect world. However, because I am a British citizen, I cannot vote in this election."

Three times in the past two days, Sen. John McCain has proclaimed that 300 economists have enthusiastically endorsed his "Jobs for America" economic plan. The number, line, and message are highly misl...
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- wagonjak I'm a Fan of wagonjak 7 fans permalink

Any economists who valued their careers would not be caught dead backing the McCain/Bush economic policies. They have to either be really stupid and deluded or part of the the lying BushCo team. It's like getting on board the Titanic as it's sinking.

It would be great if all of these "experts" were contacted and queried about out how well they know all the McCain economic policies and if they stand strongly behind them all...time consuming but it would be interesting.

The trouble with the Corporate Press is that they never put in the hard work to find this out this kind of stuff ...they usually take these "bold" statements from McC without questioning him about the details.

After all, he's a War Hero!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 07/11/2008

You know I just don't get it!!!!

After years of being beaten by the soundbite, you would think the democrats would have developed a cadre of folks who could speak sound bite lingo. But it seems that Democrats are too arrogant or just can't or refuse to master the soundbite .

To borrow from the Clintonites, its the economy stupid. Or to borrow from Ronald Reagan.... are you better off than you were 4 or 8 years ago?

Why aren't the democrats, bloggers, Obama surrogates, Obama, Democratic talking heads, their uncles and their pets screaming at the top of their lungs about the MISERY INDEX?

For us, it should be NOUN VERB MISERY INDEX, MISERY INDEX, MISERY INDEX......

MISERY INDEX = dropping 401Ks, pensions, 529s, house values, job opportunities, Roths PLUS increasing gas, food and utilities (which mine doubled since last month).

Every demoncrat should be talking about John McCain's SS privatization scheme and asking Americans if they want all their money and their family's future tied up in a stock market that dropped 30% in one month and has failed to provide significant returns during the last eight years?

If you talk about the money, people will vote regardless if the democrats nominate a candidate whose skin color is purple with yellow and green polka dots .

Are we trying to lose this November?!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 07/11/2008

The problem isn't the democrats. The problem is with the mainstream media and their willingness to be biased to one particular race which is the republican party.

I've read that Faux news has an agenda sent to each news caster each day to paint the democrats in a negative way. They use the term "liberals" as a term meaning unpatriotic, marxist socialist scum that don't deserve to be Americans. Faux news and CNN is guilty of this McSame cheerleading charade.

Didn't you see the news yesterday when they only covered the Jesse Jackson story and they ignored the statements by Phil Gramm?

We are in danger of a fascist society evolving in our nation.

Joseph Goebbel's, who was the minister of propaganda for Hitler once stated " the truth is the greatest enemy of the state".

Its never more evident than what Faux news and CNN is doing these days.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 07/11/2008

I agree with you to some extent.

But even Rachel Maddow on Countdown is questioning why the Obama campaign has not been more aggressive in light of the Gramm remarks and McCain's "Social Security is a disgrace gaffe". Afterall the constituency that would be most sensitive to these GOP gaffes is the same in which Obama is having problems with.. white working class and seniors

If he and the Dems were to hit these GOP remarks hard and often they could negate the "bitter" remarks and erase Obama's image as an elitist.

If the "whiners" remark isn't emblematic of the GOP's contempt for the little man and grassroot America I don't know what is.....

I am wondering if there is some validity to the OBAMBI Monniker

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 07/11/2008
- CindyM2008 I'm a Fan of CindyM2008 9 fans permalink
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Mc Cain's staff also bald-face LIED when they said secret service requested Carol Kreck be removed from the townhall meeting site. THEY wanted her removed, and used the secret service as a cover. Liars and cowards. Just like B ush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 07/11/2008
- MissKaren I'm a Fan of MissKaren 43 fans permalink

The poor guy should be saying "300 economists approve of my goals of a balanced budget but none of them agree with me on how we get there."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 07/11/2008

If that list contains a fella named Gramm Crackers, that list should be considered MOOT ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 07/11/2008
- Mij13 I'm a Fan of Mij13 73 fans permalink
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Gramm Crackers! That's perfect! LOL!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 07/11/2008
- Abycat I'm a Fan of Abycat 4 fans permalink

The Yuma, Ariz phone book shouldn't be used for economic advisers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 07/11/2008
- dora rice I'm a Fan of dora rice 12 fans permalink
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Americans know McCaine. You have to grasp for straws to tell the public something new. We all were sitting in the front row seat last time he ran for president. We know what he voted for in the senat and what bill he is against. What we don't know we can research. So bringing up his other family is grasping at straws. We know what we are getting with McCaine, we don't know , in fact we can't even assume what we are getting with Obama. What we are getting with McCaine is a lot of Bush who kept the terrorist on the move, they have barely time to pack their comb before they have to run. Also money is hard to come by for the terrorist , because Bush confisticated their dough. Now they throw a tantrum in Afghanistan and Iraq but they can't get nowhere. With McCaine we get twice Bush. Or we can have Obama with a Carter like administration, only black.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 07/11/2008

Oh come on... this has gotta be someone pretending to be a stereotypical "dumb Republican". They didn't even spell McCain's name right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 07/11/2008
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This "Americans know McCaine" comment gives me the perfect opportunity to cast my theory. The question being; How can the Republicans be so consistently enamored by superficiality and hypocrisy? I think the "Americans know McCaine" is very telling. I believe that for Republicans to "know" someone is excessively important to them because, like "experience", to "know" the candidate is code for maintaining the world in it's current configuration. Why else would a group support a candidate because they "know" them (though the candidate be deeply flawed)? Why else would a group support a candidate because of their "experience" (though the candidates experience is rife with moral failure and mediocrity)? Only a fear of change can explain their support. Where would such irrational fear come from? I attribute it to the traditional IQ bell curve. The Republicans don't want change because change requires abstract, and rational, thought. This is something that Republicans, to greater or lesser degrees, are not capable of because they are on the unfortunate side of the bell curve. This theory also dovetails neatly with all the recent observations about our society being evenly split (polarized). It doesn't matter what the numbers are on the bell curve. It always maintains the same shape. Republicans on the left. Democrats on the right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 07/12/2008
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My theory also, I believe, explains how the Republicans can find a flag lapel pin to be such an important issue, or how they will often support a homosexual candidate though they be morally opposed to homosexuality, or how they will often support an email child molester though they be opposed to child molestation, or how they will often support a liar though they be opposed to lying, or how they can support John McCain, who abandoned his children to be with a cute wealthy blonde half his age, though they strongly support traditional family values. How can Republicans continue to see the world in such a superficial way? I think it is because they are intellectually incapable of seeing it any other way.

Lets face folks. Trying to reason with these people will never produce anything but frustration. They will (also) always be approximately fifty percent of the population. Voter turnout is the only weapon we have that makes any sense. I would advise to avoid the frustration of confronting them, but maybe a little in-your-face payback will dampen their sprits and result in them staying home on election day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 07/12/2008
- kfdan I'm a Fan of kfdan 22 fans permalink
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Quite a number of politicians stretch the truth! What McCain does is forgets the truth and just stretches the yarn! McCain has about as much credibility as a used car salesman!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 07/11/2008

Nevertheless, he lied....again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 07/11/2008
- Quipman I'm a Fan of Quipman 8 fans permalink

Shameful, Not worth the paper its written on, deceitful and a scam. If one didn't know better one would think this was George Bush and company who presented this list. Enough said......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 07/11/2008
- Mygirl I'm a Fan of Mygirl 6 fans permalink
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so the little yellow teeth guy lied.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 07/11/2008
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 661 fans permalink
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I noticed that too, 100 mil in the bank and he can't buy some veneers ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 07/11/2008

The American people have been fooled twice.
They will not be fooled again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 07/11/2008

Cindy should buy him some WhiteStrips. They really work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 07/11/2008

Cindy won't buy him any whitestrips because he called her the "c" word.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 07/11/2008
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Bizarre. Particularly in the age of HDTV.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 07/11/2008

Lying is something new to the GOP?
There were weapons of mass destruction - weren’t there?
Sedam Hussein was responsible for 9 - 11?
Oil was going to pay for the Iraqi war?
Mission accomplished!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 07/11/2008

In his own mind only, it's only in his mind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 07/11/2008

spin spin spin away little mental man

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 07/11/2008

LMAO - I hope he's not using the same expert economists that Bush used. They've been dead wrong on everything so far.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 07/11/2008

Sure, they're the same!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 07/11/2008
- wordvarc I'm a Fan of wordvarc 32 fans permalink

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Feel pity for McSame.

It's tough to keep facts straight when your brain power is declining, you're used to lying, and you are commenting about things you know nothing about.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 07/11/2008
- BWonka I'm a Fan of BWonka 118 fans permalink
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The only thing the 300 agree on is that McLoser knows even less than THEY do!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 07/11/2008
- Kirby I'm a Fan of Kirby 21 fans permalink

The fact that he has said that he has 300 economists in his corner is indicative that he doesn't have a clue as to just what to do. This on the heels with the initial statement of support for Gramm' s assertion that the U. .S. has become a nation of whiners, only to change his support three hours later by dropoping it from his on-line campaign, tells me that he just doesn't get much at all.

It's about time we become a nation of whiners as we look at the sorry state of affairs our country is in, led by this sorry president, Geo. Bush. I !

This, for President? McBush?

Kirby,
Self Appointed President
Whiners Association of America

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 07/11/2008
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