Packers GM, Coach Say No To Brett Favre's Release Request

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CHRIS JENKINS | July 12, 2008 08:12 PM EST | AP

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In this Dec. 21, 2006 file photo, Green Bay Packers quarterback Brett Favre waves to spectators as he leaves the field following the Packers' 9-7 victory over the Minnesota Vikings during an NFL football game in Green Bay, Wis. The Green Bay Packers' general manager and coach don't plan to grant Brett Favre's request for his release. If he does rejoin the team, they told The Associated Press, it won't be as the starting quarterback. (AP Photo/Mike Roemer, file)

GREEN BAY, Wis. — The Packers aren't about to let Brett Favre become a free agent. And while he's now free to return to Green Bay for another season, there's no guarantee he'll be the Packers' starting quarterback if he does.

In an interview with The Associated Press Saturday, Packers general manager Ted Thompson and coach Mike McCarthy said they don't plan to grant Favre the release he is seeking from his contract and are committed to Aaron Rodgers as their starter.

"We've communicated that to Brett, that we have since moved forward," Thompson said Saturday, in his first public comments since Favre requested to be released this week. "At the same time, we've never said that there couldn't be some role that he might play here. But I would understand his point that he would want to play."

And if Favre wanted to play for the Packers, he had the chance when he told them a few weeks after his tearful goodbye news conference that he was having second thoughts. With Thompson and McCarthy preparing to board a private plane to fly to Mississippi and seal the deal on a comeback, all Favre had to do was say yes.

He didn't.

"Ted always wanted Brett back," McCarthy said. "We always wanted Brett back."

A message left by the AP with Favre's agent, Bus Cook, was not immediately returned.

Favre, who led the Packers to a Super Bowl title after the 1996 season, held a tearful news conference to announce his retirement March 6. Favre has made high drama out of his waffling over retirement in the past several offseasons, but it seemed to be for real this time.

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Until Favre told Packers offensive line coach James Campen a few weeks later that he was having second thoughts. Campen is a friend of Favre's who McCarthy said has been miscast as an official intermediary between Favre and the team in some media reports.

After several telephone discussions with Favre led them to believe he wanted to return, Thompson and McCarthy were preparing to go to Mississippi when Favre suddenly called McCarthy.

"He said he appreciated all the planning we were going to do," McCarthy said. "But he felt that at this point, he had reached a point of closure, to use his words, and he was going to stick with his initial decision."

Even after Favre's near-comeback in March, McCarthy and Thompson said they regularly communicated with Favre. Thompson even went to Mississippi to visit Favre in May, and didn't get the sense Favre was having serious thoughts about playing again as the two had lunch on his back porch.

"He mentioned several things where you could tell there's always indecisiveness," Thompson said. "He's wondering if he made the right decision. I think that's normal."

But the tone changed dramatically in June, when Campen said he was getting worried about Favre. McCarthy said he had a phone conversation with Favre on June 20, and the quarterback sent a clear message: "Give me my helmet or give me my release."

Even then, McCarthy said when he asked Favre if he was ready to make a 100 percent commitment to football _ an issue Favre had brought up in his retirement news conference _ the answer still was no.

"That always seemed to be the one thing that he had to come to grips with," McCarthy said.

Next came a text message exchange between Thompson and Favre on July 4. At the time, Thompson didn't think it was a big deal that he wrote Favre back saying he was traveling and asked if they could talk Monday.

But then Thompson began getting texts from Cook. Sensing rising tension, Thompson and McCarthy agreed to a conference call with Favre and Cook on Tuesday.

Only then, McCarthy said, did Favre say he was 100 percent committed to playing. McCarthy said he doesn't question Favre's commitment to football, but said Favre often brought up the issue himself.

"The way he plays the game illustrates the guy is committed," McCarthy said. "(But) those are his words. That was always his final hurdle that he said he had to get over."

The hurdle was apparently cleared weeks before the start of training camp.

"Was it convincing? I'd say yes," McCarthy said. "But that was the first time, July 8, that I'd ever heard him say (he was committed). And he continually, from (June) 21 to July 8, told James Campen that he was not going to play. So that's a pretty important piece of the puzzle."

Cook then sent the Packers a letter officially asking for Favre to be released, which would allow him to sign with any NFL team.

With Favre not being offered a defined role with the Packers if he returns at this point, and the team not inclined to release Favre so he could sign with a division rival, a trade may be the best resolution.

Thompson and McCarthy declined to discuss that possibility, and Thompson said he had not received any inquiries from other teams as of Saturday morning.

Where does that leave the Packers and their beloved three-time MVP?

In a pretty big mess.

"Quite frankly, it's a little gut-wrenching as an organization to go through it, and certainly for Mike and myself," Thompson said. "This stuff hurts a lot of people. I mean, it hurts. I'm not talking about physically hurting, but the sensitivity. We understand where the fans are coming from. This is a hot-button issue that surpasses anything I've ever gone through."

GREEN BAY, Wis. — The Packers aren't about to let Brett Favre become a free agent. And while he's now free to return to Green Bay for another season, there's no guarantee he'll be the Packers' s...
GREEN BAY, Wis. — The Packers aren't about to let Brett Favre become a free agent. And while he's now free to return to Green Bay for another season, there's no guarantee he'll be the Packers' s...
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- BillZBubb I'm a Fan of BillZBubb 54 fans permalink
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The Packers' management only has one real option: if Farve wants to play, he's the starting QB until someone else beats him out. That is their only safe move.

Making Farve the backup QB would destroy the team. Because every game they lose, or every bad throw Rodgers makes would have most of the fan base and media screaming "FARVE, FARVE". It would really effect Rodgers performance negatively. He'd be a wreck and would get yanked, setting back his development.

Releasing Farve outright would cost the GM his job. All Farve would have to do is go to a team on the brink like the Vikings and lead them to the playoffs. The GM would be gone.

Trading Farve is a bad, but only other feasible, option. They would have to trade him to a rebuilding team with no hopes of making the playoffs. And they'd have to get something of real value. That might be impossible to pull off. And even in that case, if the Packers with Rodgers at QB fail to do as well as last season the fans will ask "what is the difference between this and last year?" And they'll know Farve was the difference. So, trading Farve only works if they get something of value in return and Rodgers gets the team into the playoffs. That is two big ifs.

I don't envy Ted Thompson--he's screwed no matter how he moves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 07/12/2008
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Big Packer fan here but would opt to trade him. It could be a win (maybe) for another team, and the Packers could move on, along with a decent draft choice/s or active player. It would also allow the Pack to trade him to anyone except the Bears, Vikes, and Lions. Personally, I think he should go to the Raiders who have a history of taking players in the twilight of their careers. Who knows, he could be another Rich Gannon, and hopefully not another Dante Culpepper.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 07/12/2008

Take the hint Brett. Not everyone can go out like Elway. Time to move on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 07/12/2008

They'll trade him.

Just hide and watch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 07/12/2008
- bigsioux I'm a Fan of bigsioux 35 fans permalink

If Favre is too old to help the Pack why fear releasing him. They would rather pay him 13 mil to sit on the bench? No. Management is guessing he will not accept the back up role. Call the bluff Brett.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 07/12/2008
- zendem1 I'm a Fan of zendem1 108 fans permalink

Hmm..No criminal record. Means the Cowboys aren't interested.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 07/12/2008

Ouch!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 07/12/2008

ROTFL!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 07/12/2008
- chitown8 I'm a Fan of chitown8 90 fans permalink
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As a Chicago Bears fan this is not good news. Yet I have always like Brett especially we Urlacher took it back 50 yards. Go Bears.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 07/12/2008
- Gma11 I'm a Fan of Gma11 12 fans permalink

Good! And I'm an ardent Packer and Favre fan.

This was a terrible idea!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 07/12/2008

What an egomaniac. How shallow is this guy to where he so needs people doting over him that he can't even stay away from the game for ONE YEAR?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 07/12/2008

On the flipside it is a game he has played 17 as a pro, it is all that he knows.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 07/12/2008
- steveRB I'm a Fan of steveRB 4 fans permalink

That and being able to sit in a deer stand for 8 hours w/o taking a leak.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 07/13/2008
- JimR I'm a Fan of JimR 38 fans permalink

He loves to play and he's damn good at it. How shallow are you that you won't let him do it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 07/12/2008
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@ SwinginFromCenter

U my friend are not in a position to attach labels to any professional athlete. Brett Farve has done nothing negative to the NFL, for Green Bay, or to himself (aside from sacrificing his later years in life for your enjoyment as he played a game).

To call him an egomaniac only illustrates your lack of empathy, your lack of integrity, and your negative attitude toward anyone that has devoted themselves to one particular event.

Now, since you and anyone else that feels this way, so eagerly like to call out, arguably one of the best players ever, in an attempt to achieve your own self gratification on an internet forum, I dub you the shallow egomaniac.

SwingFromThemApples

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 AM on 07/13/2008
- provgrays I'm a Fan of provgrays 29 fans permalink

Favre's embarrassing retirement speech made it clear that he was not ready to quit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 07/12/2008

Looks like the prospect of spending time with the wife and kids doesn't appeal to him. Maybe they don't treat him like the god he thinks he is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 07/12/2008

Too bad, I've lost a lot of respect for him. But he does confirm what I have thought in the back of my mind. Brett cannot do anything else. I am starting to believe he would not be capable of a competent second career.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 07/12/2008
- CaseyBabes I'm a Fan of CaseyBabes 25 fans permalink
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Green Bay should go ahead and release Fahvreh (always thought Vs got pronounced, like in Vehladistock). The aging "gunslingers" always make that final mistake just like Favre's last game when we knew that interception was coming. That was the signal he should hang 'em up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 07/12/2008
- JimR I'm a Fan of JimR 38 fans permalink

He had one of his best years last year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 07/12/2008
- Eric8869 I'm a Fan of Eric8869 25 fans permalink

When is he going to be brave enough to come out of the closet?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 07/12/2008

What a class-less insult . . . it would be worth paying to see what he would do to you if you got drunk enough to find the guts and say that to his face.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 07/12/2008

I am still trying to figure out how you get

Farve out of Favre

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 07/12/2008
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